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Post by mccloud on Sept 4, 2023 6:34:26 GMT -5
Attention cover art would have been literally perfect for the album cover. Instead, it got waisted on the buzz single that flew under the radar lol.
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Post by think pink. on Sept 6, 2023 8:28:09 GMT -5
Well, we can kiss a #1 debut goodbye. Aubrey’s bitch ass is now dropping on the 22nd.
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Post by Ivy Leegue™ on Sept 6, 2023 10:16:08 GMT -5
That man is soooo corny.
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Post by Au$tin on Sept 6, 2023 13:34:48 GMT -5
Why am I just now learning that Y2K, one half of the team that brought us bbno$'s mainstream breakout hit, is one of the producers for "Attention"?! Dude's got range!
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Post by Ivy Leegue™ on Sept 6, 2023 18:47:41 GMT -5
I'm glad they aren't letting Soundcloud-demo Demons linger too long. While the song was cute, Doja is better than that.
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Post by wavey. on Sept 6, 2023 23:50:25 GMT -5
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Post by wavey. on Sept 11, 2023 12:46:45 GMT -5
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Post by Koochie on Sept 11, 2023 14:16:05 GMT -5
defied the flop narrative as she should
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Post by Ivy Leegue™ on Sept 11, 2023 15:22:07 GMT -5
LOL @ that picture of Nicki they chose. Congrats, Doja! Definitely not my favorite song of hers, but I am happy that she is seeing success doing what she wants.
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Post by wavey. on Sept 11, 2023 15:51:22 GMT -5
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Post by SHOOTER on Sept 12, 2023 14:16:24 GMT -5
1. Paint the Town Red 2. Demons 3. Wet Vagina 4. Fuck the Girls (FTG) 5. Ouchies 6. 97 7. Gun 8. Go Off 9. Agora Hills 10. Can't Wait 11. Often 12. Love Life 13. Skull and Bones 14. Attention 15. Balut
52 minutes. Her longest (standard) album.
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Post by think pink. on Sept 12, 2023 14:33:38 GMT -5
Attention should’ve been the opening track.
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Post by JayBoozer on Sept 12, 2023 15:36:59 GMT -5
1. Paint the Town Red 2. Demons 3. Wet Vagina 4. Fuck the Girls (FTG) 5. Ouchies 6. 97 7. Gun 8. Go Off 9. Agora Hills 10. Can't Wait 11. Often 12. Love Life 13. Skull and Bones 14. Attention 15. Balut 52 minutes. Her longest (standard) album. Balut is coming out friday (no longer 97) and Agora Hills is gonna be the Focus track. So Agora Hills the next single?
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Post by Ivy Leegue™ on Sept 12, 2023 16:54:47 GMT -5
Doja couldn't be bothered to spell Agoura Hills correctly? Unless she is talking about something different, LOL. These titles are KILLING me though, especially Balut. Like...if there is a video and I have to look at the filth, I might throw up on myself.
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Post by wavey. on Sept 12, 2023 19:05:17 GMT -5
No features!? Sis really coming hard asf.
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Post by 🇯🇲 dollybaby 🇯🇲 on Sept 12, 2023 21:36:48 GMT -5
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Post by Caviar on Sept 12, 2023 21:45:31 GMT -5
Good performance
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Post by 👑 Eloquent ™ on Sept 12, 2023 23:01:09 GMT -5
I fully believe all the rumors now about her involvement with the "illuminati" (if that's what we wanna call them), whereas before I thought they were unfounded. Ever since her birthday party she has only gotten darker and more erratic until now she's fully pushing demonic/satanic imagery/music to the masses and is finding more success than ever (I'm sure as promised). Idc really what anyone has to say about this as I am sure my opinion will draw criticism, but it's still a pass for me personally. I just feel there's no good reason to be having people chanting and vibing while calling themselves demons! Idc how artistic you are or think the angle is, but to each their own. lol
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Post by HamedM1 💔 on Sept 12, 2023 23:06:51 GMT -5
She bodied that performance tonight, Demons portion especially was fire.
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Post by SHOOTER on Sept 12, 2023 23:10:27 GMT -5
She ate! Mic was ON and she at least performed to the instrumentals instead of letting the backing track do half the work. Cannot wait to hear Scarlet in full.
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Post by Ling-Ling on Sept 13, 2023 6:53:24 GMT -5
I fully believe all the rumors now about her involvement with the "illuminati" (if that's what we wanna call them), whereas before I thought they were unfounded. Ever since her birthday party she has only gotten darker and more erratic until now she's fully pushing demonic/satanic imagery/music to the masses and is finding more success than ever (I'm sure as promised). Idc really what anyone has to say about this as I am sure my opinion will draw criticism, but it's still a pass for me personally. I just feel there's no good reason to be having people chanting and vibing while calling themselves demons! Idc how artistic you are or think the angle is, but to each their own. lol The imagery absolutely is not for everyone, so I get it. Doja is a troll and a provocateur, and this is exactly the kind of response she wants. This entire era is all about deconstructing and breaking down her previous image. She doesn't want to be seen as pretty anymore, as pop anymore, or hell, even likable to her fans anymore. It's all a tad on the nose IMHO, but she's clearly in her full-blown rebellious phase. Once she's through it, I'm sure the next era is gonna look completely different. But LOL at the illuminati. Can we not? If there was a such a thing, your fav would be a reigning member. Let's be real.
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Post by Ivy Leegue™ on Sept 13, 2023 7:54:38 GMT -5
I didn't know people still believe in YouTube conspiracy theories and I say that as a card-carrying, church-going Christian. Wow.
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Post by wavey. on Sept 13, 2023 11:45:56 GMT -5
I could've sworn she referred to the "Demons" as the critics who shitted on her. The lyrics tell that in all 3 songs, and the imagery on purpose, no?
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Post by SHOOTER on Sept 13, 2023 12:09:29 GMT -5
Always the Black artists that must have demonic forces at work in order to be superstars. Always.
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Post by Choco on Sept 13, 2023 13:39:19 GMT -5
I think the demon theme is just a deliberate attempt to get people talkikg and it's working. Good for her.
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Post by 👑 Eloquent ™ on Sept 13, 2023 14:43:35 GMT -5
But LOL at the illuminati. Can we not? If there was a such a thing, your fav would be a reigning member. Let's be real. Is it even possible for someone to quote me on this forum on something completely unrelated to Taylor Swift *without* bringing her up? Like, it's such low-hanging fruit and so very lame af. Like we ALL have our favorites on this board that we have ALL defended (let'snot act brand new). Imagine if everytime you made a comment or a remark on any topic here someone had some slick sh** to say about an artist you like as if it bothered you. lol It doesn't, it's just ridiculous. I never said Taylor *wouldn't* be a part of said group btw (I'mmore inclined to believe a LOT of celebrities are). In fact I didn't like and made remarks about the devilish scene in her "Karma" music video before so, yeah, don't know what you were trying to prove here but ok. Always the Black artists that must have demonic forces at work in order to be superstars. Always. So expected. Yes. It's a race thing (as it literally always is these days apparently). Couldn't possibly be the LITERAL demonic/satanic imagery/lyricism. The reaching here in relation to my comment is absurd. I would have the same remarks about a white artist (or any other ethnicity for that matter) if they were doing the exact same thing in front of millions of people. I wasn't a huge fan of "Unholy" for similar reasons. Maybe if her intention with featuring this were clearly stated and she explained herself I might see the angle somehow (as I did with Lil Nas X), but as of now, it feels for mere shock value than artistic expression and her intentions are up in the air, as is her character. Furthermore she was a superstar before the satanic imagery and illuminati rumors so I'm not sure what you're talking about. To those who don't believe in God or demons or the like I'm sure it's no big deal/whatever. For those of us who do, demons aren't something to play around with and neither is God. And for millions of people, they're not going to see the context or the subtext, they're just gonna be jumping, shouting, raising their hands that they're demons like in that live performance and for me *personally* that's a vibe and energy I won't get behind. To each their own. I'm not trying to push my beliefs on others (you don't see me quoting being all "how can you support this dark stuff" etc) just stating an opinion, but I absolutely knew it would get flack on this forum before I posted it so no biggie.
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Post by Ling-Ling on Sept 13, 2023 15:49:06 GMT -5
It is perfectly reasonable to not like Doja Cat's imagery. Whether it's for religious reasons, you don't like horror, dark-sided stuff, etc. What's not reasonable is bringing the illuminati into it. Point blank, the illuminati is not real, it's conspiracy theory nonsense with a lot of roots in antisemitism. Nobody is attending blood orgies, sacrificing babies to get a hit single. Doja is using dark imagery to push buttons and deconstruct her image. She wants people to get worked up. And if it's not for you, that's perfectly okay.
And I didn't slip Taylor in there to be slick, I'm using her as a very direct example of how nonsensical the argument is. You basically implied Doja sold her soul for success (when she was already successful before). Given that Taylor is the most successful artist in the world, she must have sacrificed a whole dump truck full of babies to get there if the industry is controlled by a panel of Satanic power players. And yes, there are YT vids, TikToks and Reelz talking about occult imagery in Taylor's work as well, like there is for every artist. So if you truly believe in the illuminati, then get comfy with it, cause your favs are definitely members. That's all I'm saying. Thankfully, it's all a bunch of BS, so there's nothing to worry about.
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Post by 👑 Eloquent ™ on Sept 13, 2023 16:06:01 GMT -5
What's not reasonable is bringing the illuminati into it. Point blank, the illuminati is not real, it's conspiracy theory nonsense with a lot of roots in antisemitism. First off, if you read what I wrote, I put the Illuminati in quotation marks with "if that's what you want to call them" for a reason. I don't believe in the stereotypical "Illuminati". You don't even know my beliefs you're just making hella assumptions left and right and applying them to me. Do I believe there are things in this world we don't understand fully/know about? Absolutely. Do I believe there are incredibly powerful people that have the ability of pushing agendas and people to the forefront, absolutely. I have never went in depth of what my views are exactly and of what I do and do not believe. People are just quick to jump on buzz words. It was absolutely unneeded and unnecessary. You could have made the point without her. Still, how exactly does me liking Taylor prove my point "nonsensical" when my entire point was about Doja pushing demonic/satanic imagery? I never said success alone = involvement. Last I checked Taylor has never pushed this type of imagery. The closest she has gotten is a questionable scene in her "Karma" music video. Now if she had a demonic era and I were standing by in full support I might understand your point, but you listing random YouTube videos (of people reaching to likely find symbolism that's debatable and isn't anywhere near direct as what Doja is actually presenting) that I've never even seen to illustrate a point I never made, proves nothing. But ok. =)
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Post by Ling-Ling on Sept 13, 2023 16:24:43 GMT -5
You clearly stated what you believed. That there was an "illuminati" (if that's what you want to call them) that Doja joined. You literally said "the success I'm sure she was promised" and that the rumors of her joining this group were true. That is literally the illuminati conspiracy theory. Whether you you tiptoe around it or not.
You opened the door for the Taylor comparison by bringing up success. That Doja was promised success by this panel of power players, if that's the case, what did the most successful artist in the world have to do? That's my point. And FYI, it's not just the "Karma" video. They were up in arms about the "occult" imagery in the "willow" video too. That's how ridiculous this all gets.
Like I said, if you don't like Doja's imagery, that's fine! It's perfectly understandable. But we don't need to bring nonsense/offensive conspiracy theories into it to justify it.
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Post by 👑 Eloquent ™ on Sept 13, 2023 16:36:18 GMT -5
You clearly stated what you believed. Did I? Then where is this "sacrificing babies" and all this other ridiculousness coming from, because I absolutely never stated I believed in such bs. I'm not "tiptoeing" around anything. I put it in quotation marks because I don't believe there is an actual "Illuminati" (a group of people who call themselves that). I do believe there are powerful people who work behind the scenes of all media to push their agendas/narratives. I do believe they work closely with artists (and many artists have spoken out about it). The closest comparison to an ideal like that is the "Illuminati". You can believe in an idea, without believing in all the rumors and theories attached to that idea, which I have clearly stated I do not. Like most other things gossiped about there is some truth and some falsehoods in everything. Nothing is black and white. No. Once again, I never claimed success was the issue. I had no issues with Doja her last era nor did I believe what I do now about her. What she is pushing is the issue. This will be my last response to this topic as I am not going to run in circles about this. I said what I said. Take it or leave it. You are all allowed to speak openly and express your own opinions/viewpoints and I will continue to do the same. Respected or not. =)
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