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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2020 11:23:25 GMT -5
Out of curiosity, what was the biggest song to get caught between years? Misery Business is probably up there A Top 25 peak, 30 weeks on the Hot 100, and yet it doesn't make the Year-End list for 2007 or 2008. Yeah, that's quite unfortunate. On another note, there were #1 hits in the 70s that were caught between years.
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Jan 30, 2020 12:12:42 GMT -5
^On the latter note, weren't many of those the ones that drop from #1 to outside the top 10?
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Post by nathanalbright on Jan 30, 2020 14:05:52 GMT -5
^On the latter note, weren't many of those the ones that drop from #1 to outside the top 10? Yes, but this was long before soundscan so there appears to have been a fairly common practice of dropping songs from playlists as soon as they hit #1 so as to cycle through a lot of hits, similar to what is done in contemporary country radio.
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Jan 30, 2020 14:44:15 GMT -5
^So, I think Country radio still continues the practice, while many of the other formats seem to hang onto songs for a long time.
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Post by nathanalbright on Jan 30, 2020 16:08:49 GMT -5
Yes, and this accounts for one of the main reasons why Country artists have often tended to fall short of the YE list, because they don't have the same sort of chart runs that songs from other genres do unless they cross over to Adult Contemporary like your Dan & Shay tracks do.
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Jan 30, 2020 16:44:28 GMT -5
^The other main reason is that except for a few newer Country artists, their songs don't tend to be streamed that much regardless of how popular the artist is within the genre.
I do agree Country radio has a ceiling in terms of audience. BTW, The Bones seems to have crossed over into other radio formats.
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Post by nathanalbright on Jan 30, 2020 17:01:54 GMT -5
Yes, but not streaming a lot does tend to make sure that one's points and chart placement have a certain peak. When a song can cross over into other airplay charts, like the Bones or something like that, or where a song can rise above the airplay peak because of strong sales like God's Country did last year (to give one example), then those songs obviously rise above the usual point total and bubble position on the YE ranking.
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Jan 30, 2020 17:58:50 GMT -5
^Or also, those songs classified as "Country" songs which have influences from other genres such as Body Like a Back Road, Meant to Be or the Dan + Shay hits.
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Post by nathanalbright on Jan 30, 2020 19:28:41 GMT -5
We might as well call songs like "Body Like A Back Road" or "Meant To Be" carpetbagger country .
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Jan 30, 2020 20:59:26 GMT -5
^I see the Nelly Cruise remix and Burnin' It Down as the spiritual ancestors to those types of songs. For one, I'm glad that Ridin' Roads didn't manage to become a major hit in the Hot 100.
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Post by waluigionascooter on Jan 30, 2020 21:55:20 GMT -5
^I see the Nelly Cruise remix and Burnin' It Down as the spiritual ancestors to those types of songs. For one, I'm glad that Ridin' Roads didn't manage to become a major hit in the Hot 100. Is it just me or is Ridin Roads and Small Town Boy practically the same song.
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Jan 30, 2020 22:52:26 GMT -5
^I agree they're pretty similar, I agree. Dustin Lynch's voice is more auto tuned on Ridin' Roads, though.
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Post by brandon on Jan 31, 2020 11:46:23 GMT -5
Week 11 11 weeks in, and 10 songs are now locked for the year end! Nice! Also, fun fact. Ever since I started this at week 6, every week, Senorita has been within a #1 reach of being locked LOL. Now it's a top 10 reach to get locked. It might be quite a couple of weeks before we see another song get locked, unless a song with a decent amount of points gets a massive boost. With Billie performing at the GRAMMY's this week and the OSCAR awards next week, maybe her songs could get a small/decent boost from that. Only time will tell. Locked: The Box, Dance Monkey
Expected to be Locked Next Week: None
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Post by rockgolf on Jan 31, 2020 18:33:31 GMT -5
And, for comparison, my estimates. Almost certainly less accurate. Inclusive of the February 1, 2020 chart.
So the top songs are hanging around so long there's no movement at all in the top ten. I suspect the top 3 on this week's chart will all be in the top 10 of the year when it's over. Almost everything on the upper end of this week's Hot 100 is stagnant. If Eminem and Mac Miller didn't chart, we'd hardly see any movement at all. And most of those album tracks will be gone next week.
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Post by rockgolf on Jan 31, 2020 18:38:16 GMT -5
Out of curiosity, what was the biggest song to get caught between years? The examples I've seen as replies to this pale compared to "I Think I Love You" by The Partridge Family. A #1 song from late 1970 that didn't make the year-end in either 1970 or 1971. Based on its full chart run, it should have been the #3 song of 1970. "I Am Woman" by Helen Reddy suffered the same fate in 72/73 - it should have been in the top 10 of 1972.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2020 21:26:51 GMT -5
^The other main reason is that except for a few newer Country artists, their songs don't tend to be streamed that much regardless of how popular the artist is within the genre. I do agree Country radio has a ceiling in terms of audience. BTW, The Bones seems to have crossed over into other radio formats. That's my concern if airplay is removed from the Hot 100, we'd never get Country music in the Top 40 or on Year-End lists (barring pop sellouts like Meant To Be and Body Like A Back Road).
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Post by GPMB on Feb 1, 2020 15:25:13 GMT -5
wait void is this you?????
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2020 8:02:39 GMT -5
^I don't know about the more current songs, but I do think Purple Rain would be among the biggest ones in the pre-Soundscan era. PURPLE RAIN GOT CAUGHT BETWEEN YEARS? ๐ฒ Yeah, that's definitely the biggest one, for sure, even though it peaked at #2.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2020 19:38:43 GMT -5
Here's week 12 of my 2020 year end predictions. I will track RITMO if it reaches the top 50. Gonna track Before You Go as well for the memes. Locked This Week: No Guidance & HIGHEST IN THE ROOM
Will Lock Next Week: Bad Guy, Truth Hurts, Trampoline, Don't Start Now
Might Lock Next Week: Panini (This might drop out before it locks, but will probably still make it anyways.)
Within Striking Distance Next Week: One Man Band
Dropouts:
Take What You Want 990 (Will miss the 2020 year end list. Was caught between years.)
1 Circles 3480 2 Someone You Loved 3063 3 Memories 2967 4 The Box 2782 5 Good As Hell 2743 6 Roxanne 2715 7 10,000 Hours 2612 8 Dance Monkey 2552 9 Lose You To Love Me 2550 10 Ballin' 2191 11 BOP 2180 12 Senorita 2138 13 No Guidance 2107 14 HIGHEST IN THE ROOM 2098 - - - - - LOCKED CUTOFF (2000 Points) - - - - - 15 Bad Guy 1938 16 All I Want For Christmas Is You 1912 17 Truth Hurts 1899 18 Panini 1895 19 Trampoline 1894 20 Don't Start Now 1792 21 Everything I Wanted 1775 22 Woah 1746 23 Hot 1726 24 Bandit 1724 25 Heartless 1709 - - - - - STRIKING DISTANCE (1700 Points) - - - - - 26 One Man Band 1604 27 Even Though I'm Leaving 1578 - - - - - TRACKING CUTOFF (1500 Points) - - - - - 28 Hot Girl Bummer 1499 29 Only Human 1491 30 The Bones 1464 31 Graveyard 1370 32 Falling 1341 33 Juicy 1314 34 Blinding Lights 1167 35 Heart On Ice 1136 36 I Don't Care 1135 37 Life Is Good 1110 38 Adore You 1106 39 Suicidal 1078 40 Sucker 992 41 Yummy 945 42 Futsal Shuffle 2020 941 43 My Oh My 880 44 No Idea 871 45 Homesick 840 46 Tusa 665 47 High Fashion 632 48 South Of The Border 533 49 Godzilla 475 50 Good News 430 51 Sum 2 Prove 429 52 I Hope 411 53 You Should Be Sad 404 54 What A Man Gotta Do 300 55 Before You Go 60
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Post by ๐ฒ๐ฝ'๐ผ.๐ฐ๐ฟ on Feb 3, 2020 19:47:14 GMT -5
Darn "Take What You Want" caught between years? Too unlucky, it was a great song. But I wonder, if all of its points counted to one year, where it would end up?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2020 19:54:41 GMT -5
Darn "Take What You Want" caught between years? Too unlucky, it was a great song. But I wonder, if all of its points counted to one year, where it would end up? My calculation for Take What You Want's total points is 2211, which would have put it at around 75-80 on 2019's year end list.
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Post by tanooki on Feb 3, 2020 21:03:18 GMT -5
Week 12 - 02/08 (23%) Locked this week: Woah, everything i wanted, Don't Start Now
LW TW SONG POINTS 1 1 Circles 3,533 2 2 Someone You Loved 2,974 3 3 Memories 2,931 4 4 Roxanne 2,744 5 5 Good As Hell 2,662 9 6 The Box 2,651 6 7 10,000 Hours 2,549 8 8 Dance Monkey 2,498 7 9 Lose You to Love Me 2,485 11 10 BOP 2,126
10 11 Senorita 2,113 12 12 Ballin' 2,111 13 13 No Guidance 2,086 14 14 HIGHEST IN THE ROOM 2,060 17 15 Truth Hurts 1,893 16 16 Panini 1,879 19 17 bad guy 1,876 18 18 Trampoline 1,874 15 19 All I Want For Christmas Is You 1,852 23 20 everything I wanted 1,786
20 21 Woah 1,741 25 22 Don't Start Now 1,706 --LOCKED CUTOFF: 1700 POINTS-- 21 23 Hot 1,695 22 24 Bandit 1,683 24 25 Heartless 1,678 26 26 One Man Band 1,564 27 27 Even Though I'm Leaving 1,531 28 28 Only Human 1,491 31 29 hot girl bummer 1,440 33 30 The Bones 1,403
29 31 Rockin Around the Christmas Tree 1,309 30 32 Lover 1,289 36 33 Falling 1,282 35 34 Graveyard 1,271 32 35 Old Town Road 1,256 34 36 On Chill 1,202 37 37 Juicy 1,189 41 38 I Don't Care 1,134 46 39 Blinding Lights 1,129 38 40 Ran$om 1,076
44 41 VIBEZ 1,075 50 42 Adore You 1,073 48 43 Heartache Medication 1,058 45 44 Heart on Ice 1,057 39 45 A Holly Jolly Christmas 1,051 40 46 Playing Games 1,037 47 47 Ridin Roads 1,031 52 48 Kinfolks 1,027 54 49 Suicidal 1,020 42 50 Heat 1,019
68 51 Life Is Good 999 43 52 Jingle Bell Rock 994 61 53 Yummy 968 49 54 What If I Never Get Over You 934 51 55 Beautiful People 924 53 56 Take What You Want 921 59 57 Futsal Shuffle 2020 902 58 58 Camelot 887 64 59 Sucker 861 55 60 Itโs the Most Wonderful Time of the Year 850
56 61 Remember You Young 847 57 62 Talk 835 70 63 My Oh My 811 65 64 No Idea 802 60 65 Leave Em Alone 796 67 66 Homesick 787 62 67 Last Christmas 764 63 68 223's 758 71 69 Easy 732 72 70 Start Wit Me 718
74 71 RITMO (Bad Boys for Life) 713 66 72 Into the Unknown 712 69 73 Nice to Meet Ya 687 76 74 Vete 665 89 75 High Fashion 664 82 76 Tusa 649 83 77 We Back 619 73 78 Enemies 616 75 79 Let It Snow, Let It Snow, Let It Snow 612 77 80 Feliz Navidad 597
78 81 Baby 583 79 82 The Christmas Song 579 80 83 Watermelon Sugar 573 81 84 Suge 564 97 85 BEST ON EARTH 552 92 86 Jerry Sprunger 551 84 87 Hate Me 538 85 88 Slow Dancing in the Dark 523 86 89 Death 518 87 90 Sleigh Ride 516
98 91 Make No Sense 513 88 92 Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer 512 100 93 South of the Border 505 90 94 Baby Sitter 501 116 95 Godzilla 495 91 96 Happy Holiday/The Holiday Season 484 93 97 How Do You Sleep? 478 103 98 Slide 477 94 99 Prayed For You 473 95 100 Yellow Hearts 471
96 101 Tip Toe 469 106 102 OUT WEST 457 107 103 homecoming queen? 443 110 104 TOES 439 115 105 Sum 2 Prove 429 118 106 You should be sad 428 113 107 I Hope 418 99 108 Time 412 101 109 Lucid Dreams 392 112 110 Good News 391
141 124 What a Man Gotta Do 313 134 127 Rare 274 138 128 Say So 263
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Post by spicymapping on Feb 3, 2020 22:13:14 GMT -5
ee ur
TL, DR: Locked: Bad Guy, Everything I Wanted, Heartless, Woah Added: Blinding Lights, I Don't Care, Adore You, Vibez, Heartache Medication, Heart On Ice
1. Circles (=) 2. Someone You Loved (=) 3. Memories (=) 4. Good As Hell (=) 5. Roxanne (=) 6. 10,000 Hours (+1) 7. Lose You To Love Me (-1) 8. Dance Monkey (=) 9. Seรฑorita (=) 10. The Box (+4) 11. No Guidance (-1) 12. Bop (=) 13. Ballin' (-2) 14. Highest In The Room (-1) 15. Truth Hurts (+1) 16. Panini (+1) 17. Trampoline (+1) 18. Bad Guy (+1) 19. All I Want For Christmas Is You (-4) 20. Everything I Wanted (+2) 21. Heartless (-1) 22. Woah (-1)
PREDICTED CUTOFF - 17K
23. Don't Start Now (+2) - WA: 1 24. Hot (-1) - WA: 1 25. Bandit (-1) - WA: 1 26. One Man Band (=) - WA: 2 27. Even Though I'm Leaving (=) - WA: 2 28. Only Human (=) - WA: 3 29. Hot Girl Bummer (+2) - WA: 3 30. The Bones (+3) - WA: 3 31. Rockin' Around The Christmas Tree (-2) 32. Lover (-2) 33. Falling (+3) = WA: 4 34. Graveyard (+1) - WA: 6, WL: 0 35. Old Town Road (-3) 36. Juicy (+1) - WA: 6 37. On Chill (-3) 38. Blinding Lights (NEW) - WA: 4 39. I Don't Care (NEW) - WA: 6 40. Ransom (-2) 41. Adore You (NEW) - WA: 5 42. Vibez (NEW) - WA: 8, WL: 2 43. Heartache Medication (NEW) - WA: 7 44. Heart On Ice (NEW) - WA: 8, WL: 8
TRACKING CUTOFF - 10K
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Post by sirskimask on Feb 4, 2020 0:35:55 GMT -5
Hot still hasn't locked?? NOOOOO it better hang on for 1 more week
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Post by GPMB on Feb 4, 2020 0:51:49 GMT -5
Hot still hasn't locked?? NOOOOO it better hang on for 1 more week I think it should still have a pretty strong chance even if it drops out next week, but yeah i would obviously prefer it to stay so that that strong chance can turn into certainty
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Post by tanooki on Feb 4, 2020 2:24:39 GMT -5
Hot still hasn't locked?? NOOOOO it better hang on for 1 more week If it drops out next week, it'll be apart of the "5-10 songs that we don't know about" list sadly :/
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Post by Naos on Feb 4, 2020 3:41:15 GMT -5
Seems "One Man Band" and "Even Though I'm Leaving" will probably not make it.
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Post by spicymapping on Feb 4, 2020 6:50:01 GMT -5
Itโs worth noting that not only is Hot within the margin of error, but I have it above what robbery had last year. Last year was a low cutoff but if that happens again Hot is good.
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Post by lifeofaguardian on Feb 4, 2020 7:40:43 GMT -5
Week 12 - February 8 2020
Current situation:
Criteria: 175.000 points to be considered locked, 100.000 points to be added to the playlist
New Songs: Ed Sheeran & Justin Bieber - I Don't Care The Weeknd - Blinding Lights Harry Styles - Adore You
Drop-outs: None
Locked: Roddy Ricch - The Box Lizzo - Truth Hurts Billie Eilish - bad guy SHAED - Trampoline Lil Nas X - Panini
Lowest Locked Song: Lil Nas X - Panini
Predictions:
Criteria: Songs must reach over 175.000 points if they got the same amount of points over the next 10 weeks
New Songs: Jon Pardi - Heartache Medication Sam Hunt - Kinfolks
Drop-outs: Mac Miller - Good News Jonas Brothers - What A Man Gotta Do Halsey - You should be sad
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Post by mako on Feb 4, 2020 9:01:06 GMT -5
Week 12 (February 8, 2020)
Locked this week: Bad Guy, Trampoline, Everything I Wanted Locked Locked next week Locked in 2 weeks Recurrent/Not Charting Top 10 this week
1. (=) Circles 3686 2. (+1) Memories 3134 3. (-1) Someone You Loved 3104 4. (=) Good As Hell 2818 5. (=) Roxanne 2758 6. (+3) The Box 2696 7. (-1) 10,000 Hours 2650 8. (-1) Lose You To Love Me 2595 9. (-1) Dance Monkey 2585 10. (+2) Bop 2211 [dababy really do be at #10 while peaking at 11] 11. (=) Ballin' 2210 12. (-2) Senorita 2180 13. (=) No Guidance 2115 14. (=) Highest In The Room 2106 15. (+2) Truth Hurts 1940 16. (+3) Bad Guy 1937 17. (-1) Panini 1918 18. (=) Trampoline 1911 19. (-4) All I Want For Christmas Is You 1865 20. (+3) Everything I Wanted 1841 -- -- CUTOFF (1800) -- -- 21. (=) Woah 1794 22. (+3) Don't Start Now 1776 23. (-3) Hot 1759 24. (-2) Bandit 1753 25. (-1) Heartless 1725 26. (=) One Man Band 1633 27. (=) Even Though I'm Leaving 1590 28. (+1) Only Human 1527 29. (+1) Hot Girl Bummer 1493 30. (+3) The Bones 1442 31. (-3) Rockin' Around The Christmas Tree 1430 32. (+4) Falling 1355 33. (+2) Graveyard 1347 34. (-3) Lover 1338 35. (+20) Life Is Good 1307 36. (-4) Old Town Road 1301 37. (-3) On Chill 1259 38. (-1) Juicy 1255 39. (+7) Blinding Lights 1169 40. (+4) I Don't Care 1146 41. (+2) Vibez 1137 42. (-4) Ran$om 1127 43. (+6) Adore You 1127 44. (+1) Heart On Ice 1117 45. (+3) Heartache Medication 1105 46. (-7) Jingle Bell Rock 1095 47. (-7) Playing Games 1087 48. (-1) Ridin' Roads 1084 49. (+4) Suicidal 1077 50. (-9) A Holly Jolly Christmas 1076 51. (-9) Heat 1066 52. (=) Kinfolks 1066 53. (+9) Yummy 1025 54. (-4) Take What You Want 976 55. (-4) What If I Never Get Over You 964 56. (+4) Futsal Shuffle 2020 938 57. (+1) Camelot 933 58. (-4) Beautiful People 932 59. (-3) It's The Most Wonderful Time Of The Year 887 60. (+5) No Idea 886 61. (-4) Remember You Young 881 62. (+8) My Oh My 865 63. (+6) Sucker 864 64. (+4) Homesick 851 65. (-6) Last Christmas 843 66. (-5) Talk 840 67. (-4) Leave Em Alone 830 68. (-1) Easy 820 69. (-5) 223's 806 70. (+3) Start Wit Me 784 71. (-5) Into The Unknown 773 72. (+3) Ritmo (Bad Boys For Life) 773 73. (+4) Vete 729 74. (-3) Nice To Meet Ya 722 75. (-3) Let It Snow x3 707 76. (+6) Tusa 692 77. (-3) Feliz Navidad 676 78. (+3) We Back 674 79. (-3) The Christmas Song (Merry Christmas To You) 669 80. (+13) High Fashion 667 81. (-3) Enemies 652 82. (-3) Watermelon Sugar 631 83. (+7) Best On Earth 617 84. (-4) Sleigh Ride 592 85. (+9) Jerry Sprunger 588 86. (-3) Rudolph The Red-Nosed Reindeer 587 87. (-3) Baby 583 88. (+23) Godzilla 568 89. (+7) Make No Sense 565 90. (-5) Suge 559 91. (-5) Happy Holiday / The Holiday Season 559 92. (-5) Hate Me 558 93. (-5) Slow Dancing In The Dark 554 94. (-5) Death 553 95. (+4) South Of The Border 542 96. (+5) Slide 527 97. (-6) Baby Sitter 522 98. (-6) Tip Toe 514 99. (-4) Yellow Hearts 505 100. (+3) Homecoming Queen? 493 101. (+5) Out West 487 104. (+6) Toes 469 105. (+7) I Hope 454 106. (+8) Good News 438 107. (+17) You Should Be Sad 433 108. (+12) Sum 2 Prove 433 111. (+5) What She Wants Tonight 409 121. (+6) Sugar 353 123. (+20) What A Man Gotta Do 326 132. (+21) Nobody But You 279 146. (+37) Pu$$y Fairy (OTW) 205 168. (NEW) B.I.T.C.H 140 172. (NEW) Anyone 134
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