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Post by whales10268 on Dec 9, 2019 15:24:27 GMT -5
Well, you can only see the Spotify 200 and iTunes 200 and Apple Music 100. How do you know how well Jackson is sold and streamed compared to Carey? You can look at total Spotify streams or monthly listeners on Spotify Mariah’s is currently influenced by Christmas I’m sure. But she has 32m monthly listeners. |
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Post by Lukas on Dec 9, 2019 15:27:28 GMT -5
With the stats that Billboard published, it appears that the top two is actually much further apart than people may think. (Weighted Streaming might be a bit off because of streaming tiers, but that's besides the point).
#1: Heartless - 26.2M radio + 58K sales + 27.5M streams (weighted) = 31,743 points
#2: Circles - 92.2M radio + 13K sales + 19.7M streams (weighted) = 28,471 points
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Post by dovahduck on Dec 9, 2019 15:32:26 GMT -5
With the stats that Billboard published, it appears that the top two is actually much further apart than people may think. (Weighted Streaming might be a bit off because of streaming tiers, but that's besides the point). #1: Heartless - 26.2M radio + 58K sales + 27.5M streams (weighted) = 31,743 points #2: Circles - 92.2M radio + 13K sales + 19.7M streams (weighted) = 28,471 points Lmao we had people on here saying that he wasn't even going to even reach 30,000 points with the bundles... Regardless, Abel has a lot of signing to do 😂 |
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Post by moonlite on Dec 9, 2019 15:33:33 GMT -5
Guys, remember when several people on this forum swore the Weeknd wouldn’t debut top 5/10 and would “underperform” with his next single? Because he “flopped” with a producer collab and a tv show single? Welp We need to have a cold takes thread. Yup someone needs to make that thread. I got several freezing takes ready to post |
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Post by Lukas on Dec 9, 2019 15:38:48 GMT -5
The Weeknd's 'Heartless' Hits No. 1 on Hot 100, Mariah Carey's 'All I Want for Christmas Is You' Returns to No. 3 High12/9/2019 by Gary Trust Plus, Brenda Lee's "Rockin' Around the Christmas Tree" vaults to a new No. 8 best.
The Weeknd blasts to his fourth No. 1 song on the Billboard Hot 100, as "Heartless" vaults from No. 32 to the top spot in its second week on the chart.
Plus, two holiday classics return to the Hot 100's top 10: Mariah Carey's 1994 carol "All I Want for Christmas Is You" surges from No. 18 back to its No. 3 high, first reached last holiday season, and Brenda Lee's 1960 standard "Rockin' Around the Christmas Tree" hits a new peak, roaring 29-8.Let's run down the top 10 on the Hot 100 (dated Dec. 14), which blends all-genre U.S. streaming, radio airplay and sales data. All charts will update on Billboard.com tomorrow (Dec. 10). Here's a deeper dive into The Weeknd's new Hot 100 No. 1. The song, released Nov. 27 on Republic Records, is the 1,094th leader in the chart's 61-year history. Sales, streams & airplay: "Heartless" bounds 15-1 on Digital Song Sales with 58,000 sold in the week ending Dec. 5, according to Nielsen Music (a sum comprising download sales, as well as CD and vinyl singles available on The Weeknd's official website). The track sold 10,000 on Nov. 27-28. "Heartless" flies 32-2 on Streaming Songs with 30 million U.S. streams in the week ending Dec. 5, aided by the Dec. 3 premiere of its official video. The song drew 13.8 million streams on Nov. 27-28. The track also charges 45-38 on Radio Songs, with 26.2 million in all-format airplay audience, after beginning with 22.6 million on Nov. 27-Dec. 1. The Weeknd's fourth No. 1: The Weeknd adds his fourth Hot 100 No. 1. He earned his first two leaders in August and October 2015, respectively: "Can't Feel My Face," which reigned for three weeks, and "The Hills," for six. In January 2017, he led for a week with "Starboy," featuring Daft Punk. "Heartless" is also The Weeknd's ninth Hot 100 top 10 and first since "Call Out My Name," which debuted and peaked at No. 4 in April 2018. Writers & producers: The Weeknd wrote "Heartless" with Leland "Metro Boomin" Tyler Wayne, Carlo "Illangelo" Montagnese and Andre "Dre Moon" Eric Proctor. The Weeknd has co-written all four of his Hot 100 No. 1s. Metro Boomin earns his second No. 1 as a writer, following Migos' "Bad and Boujee," featuring Lil Uzi Vert, in 2017; Illangelo tallies his second topper as a writer, following "The Hills"; and Dre Moon shines with his first No. 1 as a writer. The Weeknd, Illangelo and Metro Boomin co-produced "Heartless," marking each of their second No. 1s in that role, after "The Hills" for the former two and "Bad and Boujee" for Metro Boomin. Coldest stories ever told: The Weeknd brings the title "Heartless" to No. 1 on the Hot 100 for the first time, surpassing the No. 2 peak for Kanye West's different composition of the same name in 2009. (Subsequently that year, covers of West's hit, by Kris Allen and The Fray, reached Nos. 16 and 79, respectively.) Quirkily, Heart charted the first "Heartless," a No. 24 hit for the rock band in 1978. 'Blinding Lights' bows: The Weeknd concurrently debuts at No. 11 on the Hot 100 with fellow new song "Blinding Lights." Released Nov. 29, the song starts at No. 2 on Digital Song Sales (24,000) and No. 6 on Streaming Songs (24.8 million). Both "Heartless" and "Blinding Lights" are expected to be on The Weeknd's upcoming album; of the two, "Heartless" is receiving official radio promotion. No. 1 R&B/hip-hop: "Heartless" also climbs 14-1 on Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Songs and 3-1 on Hot R&B Songs (both of which employ the same multi-metric methodology as the Hot 100). The Weeknd notches his fifth No. 1 on the former chart and his sixth on the latter. "Heartless" dethrones Post Malone's "Circles" atop the Hot 100, after the latter led the list for two weeks. "Circles" ranks at No. 2 on Radio Songs (92.2 million, up 1%), No. 4 Digital Song Sales (13,000, down 36%) and No. 8 on Streaming Songs (22.2 million down 10%). Mariah Carey dashes 18-3 on the Hot 100 with "All I Want for Christmas Is You," returning to its peak to-date first reached last holiday season (on the chart dated Jan. 5, 2019), when it became the first top-five holiday hit on the survey in 60 years. It's the highest-charting holiday song by a soloist in the Hot 100's archives, bested overall in the category only by The Chipmunks' "The Chipmunk Song" (with David Seville), which ruled for four weeks in 1958-59. "Christmas" takes an 11-1 sleigh ride on Streaming Songs, up 48% to 35.1 million U.S. streams, as the song scores its second week atop the chart (and its second-best streaming week, after it led the Jan. 5 ranking with 51.9 million). It jumps 29-10 on Digital Song Sales (9,000, up 60%) and 38-32 on Radio Songs (31 million, up 18%). "Christmas" tops the multi-metric Holiday 100 chart for a 37th total week, of the 42 overall frames in the chart's history, dating to its 2011 inception. Click here for a recap of the song's history on the Hot 100 and other charts since its 1994 release on Carey's album Merry Christmas, which jingles 21-9 on the Billboard 200. Lewis Capaldi's "Someone You Loved" drops 2-4 on the Hot 100, after the ballad logged three weeks at No. 1; Maroon 5's "Memories" slips to No. 5 from its No. 4 high; Lizzo's "Good as Hell" slides to No. 6 from its No. 3 peak, as it rules Radio Songs for a third week (100.6 million, up 2%); and Arizona Zervas' "Roxanne" backtracks to No. 7 on the Hot 100 from its No. 5 highpoint, while leading Hot Rap Songs for a second frame. Brenda Lee's "Rockin' Around the Christmas Tree" dances merrily from No. 29 to No. 8 on the Hot 100, marking a new high, after it hit a prior No. 9 best last holiday season, when it entered the top 10 for the first time, over 55 years after it first appeared on the chart. The track rockets 23-4 on Streaming Songs (32.8 million, up 61%); re-enters Digital Song Sales at No. 33 (4,000, up 68%); and ascends 48-43 on Radio Songs (24.4 million, up 14%). Rounding out the Hot 100's top 10, Selena Gomez's "Lose You to Love Me" retreats 6-9, after becoming her first No. 1, and Dan + Shay and Justin Bieber's "10,000 Hours" falls 8-10, after debuting at its No. 4 peak, as it leads the multi-metric Hot Country Songs chart for a ninth week. Find out more Hot 100 news on Billboard.com this week, and, for all chart news, you can listen (and subscribe) to Billboard's Pop Shop Podcast and follow billboard and billboardcharts on both Twitter and Instagram. And again, be sure to visit Billboard.com tomorrow (Dec. 10), when all charts, including the Hot 100 in its entirety, will refresh.
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Post by sirskimask on Dec 9, 2019 16:22:55 GMT -5
Long running hits collapsing hard. I Don't Care at #50, gone next week. Truth Hurts fell all the way down from 9 to 22. Only Human and Beautiful People on their way out too
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Post by nathanalbright on Dec 9, 2019 16:25:42 GMT -5
Long running hits collapsing hard. I Don't Care at #50, gone next week. Truth Hurts fell all the way down from 9 to 22. Only Human and Beautiful People on their way out too Yeah, my watchlist for the 40+ weeks songs is going to be a lot shorter after the full chart posts, that's for sure, with all of those hits collapsing, making sure they won't be on the 2020 YE list. |
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Dec 9, 2019 16:27:41 GMT -5
On another note, I just read that there have been Tik Tok installs. Good thing that the memes there don't count towards the Billboard charts.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2019 16:28:30 GMT -5
Mariah is very well known lol, Mariah is skinny is a twitter meme every single year Being known and being relevant are two different things. A lot of youth are familiar with many legacy acts I am sure (Michael, Elvis, Madonna etc), doesn't necessarily make them matter or make them relevant to that demographic at all. mariah is VERY relevant to stan twitter |
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Post by weirdo on Dec 9, 2019 16:29:26 GMT -5
Does anyone have a list of all the songs' placements we currently know?. I keep hearing about these songs but i dont know where your finding these stats
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Post by kierz7 on Dec 9, 2019 16:29:46 GMT -5
On another note, I just read that there have been Tik Tok installs. Good thing that the memes there don't count towards the Billboard charts. Can you imagine? IG videos causing songs to spend +25 weeks at number one? 💀💀💀💀💀 |
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Post by weirdo on Dec 9, 2019 16:30:21 GMT -5
Long running hits collapsing hard. I Don't Care at #50, gone next week. Truth Hurts fell all the way down from 9 to 22. Only Human and Beautiful People on their way out too Do we know where Talk is?. I imagine it fell pretty hard probably but did it go recureen |
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Post by jenglisbe on Dec 9, 2019 16:35:25 GMT -5
Being known and being relevant are two different things. A lot of youth are familiar with many legacy acts I am sure (Michael, Elvis, Madonna etc), doesn't necessarily make them matter or make them relevant to that demographic at all. True. Weren’t Madonna and Whitney Houston the first “legacy” acts to have Social Media meme’s anyhow? Madonna: “Reductive” & “Look It Up” (2012). Whitney Houston: Her COUNTLESS interview memes. 😂😂😂 "I don't know her" anyone? |
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Post by kierz7 on Dec 9, 2019 16:36:41 GMT -5
True. Weren’t Madonna and Whitney Houston the first “legacy” acts to have Social Media meme’s anyhow? Madonna: “Reductive” & “Look It Up” (2012). Whitney Houston: Her COUNTLESS interview memes. 😂😂😂 "I don't know her" anyone? I don’t know WHY I forgot about that. 😂 So... Whitney; Mariah; Madonna: The “legacy act” meme trinity. |
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Post by felipe on Dec 9, 2019 16:40:00 GMT -5
Is Michael Jackson just the Thriller guy since that’s the only song that charts still lol? These artists will still be known, but my guess is the majority of kids now aren’t even familiar with 2000’s music, let alone 20th century acts. I teach kids aged 9 to 14. Most of they don't know who Mariah Carey is (but they do know AIWFCIY). All of them know Michael Jackson, a handful of his songs (including some from Jackson 5) and the moonwalk. I know this might not represent teenagers everywhere though. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2019 16:42:57 GMT -5
1. Heartless
2. Circles
3. All I Want For Christmas Is You
4. Someone You Loved
5. Memories
6. Good As Hell
7. Roxanne
8. Rockin' Around The Christmas Tree
9. Lose You To Love Me
10. 10,000 Hours
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11. Blinding Lights
12. BOP
14. No Guidance
15. Senorita
16. Ballin
17. Panini
18. A Holly Jolly Christmas
21. bad guy
22. Truth Hurts
25. everything i wanted
27. Last Christmas
31. Old Town Road
32. Lover
34. Only Human
36. Beautiful People
41. Falling
42. Don’t Start Now
45. Graveyard
46. Into the Unknown
50. I Don't Care
51. Baby
56. Juicy
61. VIBEZ
64. Death
68. No Idea (Don Toliver)
70. Show Yourself
72. Like It's Christmas
76. Enemies
78. Baby Sitter
79. all the good girls go to hell
83. Tip Toe (Roddy Ricch & A Boogie)
85. Nice To Meet Ya
87. Slow Dancing In The Dark
94. Candy
95. TUSA
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Post by sirskimask on Dec 9, 2019 16:44:40 GMT -5
Long running hits collapsing hard. I Don't Care at #50, gone next week. Truth Hurts fell all the way down from 9 to 22. Only Human and Beautiful People on their way out too Do we know where Talk is?. I imagine it fell pretty hard probably but did it go recureen That'd be crazy if it already fell off, most people (me included) had it making it to 52 |
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Post by velaxti on Dec 9, 2019 16:46:25 GMT -5
Being known and being relevant are two different things. A lot of youth are familiar with many legacy acts I am sure (Michael, Elvis, Madonna etc), doesn't necessarily make them matter or make them relevant to that demographic at all. True. Weren’t Madonna and Whitney Houston the first “legacy” acts to have Social Media meme’s anyhow? Madonna: “Reductive” & “Look It Up” (2012). Whitney Houston: Her COUNTLESS interview memes. 😂😂😂 lmao. There's Mariah Carey "I don't know her" as well. And she wasn't really a legacy act at the time, and it was about her rather than from her, but "LEAVE BRITNEY ALONE!!!" was so funny. |
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Post by weirdo on Dec 9, 2019 16:48:41 GMT -5
Do we know where Talk is?. I imagine it fell pretty hard probably but did it go recureen That'd be crazy if it already fell off, most people (me included) had it making it to 52 I had it making 52 as well. But alot of people thought Love Lies would hit 52 and that didnt, and Talk was at #36 last week i think so it could have pulled a Sucker and fell off |
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Post by sirskimask on Dec 9, 2019 17:07:25 GMT -5
That'd be crazy if it already fell off, most people (me included) had it making it to 52 I had it making 52 as well. But alot of people thought Love Lies would hit 52 and that didnt, and Talk was at #36 last week i think so it could have pulled a Sucker and fell off Love Lies was at least only 1 week away though. If Talk fell off this week it was like 10 weeks away |
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Post by weirdo on Dec 9, 2019 17:10:40 GMT -5
I had it making 52 as well. But alot of people thought Love Lies would hit 52 and that didnt, and Talk was at #36 last week i think so it could have pulled a Sucker and fell off Love Lies was at least only 1 week away though. If Talk fell off this week it was like 10 weeks away True. I definitely hope Talk does manage to survive the Christmas freeze and get that 52 weeks. I just dom't think its gonna happen. Then again, going back to Love Lies, it almost fell off during the Christmas freeze and got as low as 48 i think, but it managed to survive that and if it wasnt for Ariana it would have reached 52 weeks. So maybe Talk has a chance |
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Post by garrettlen on Dec 9, 2019 17:45:51 GMT -5
I used to ask if anyone could name a Bing Crosby song other than White Christmas.
Nowadays I have to ask if anyone has heard of Bing Crosby at all.
Someday all that may remain of The Beatles is Happy Xmas (War Is Over) and Wonderful Christmastime.
Neither of which is a Beatles song and in the latter case...THANK GOD. But I don't see The Beatles disappearing quite so quickly; they had a major influence on a lot of things that are still around today which are too numerous to mention, and their musical legacy continues to live on and on. Every new generation seems to discover The Beatles. |
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Post by Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ on Dec 9, 2019 18:20:41 GMT -5
#14 No Guidance (-4)
#15 Senorita (-8)
#21 bad guy (-7)
#22 Truth Hurts (-13)
#31 Old Town Road (-11)
#32 Lover (-13)
#34 Only Human (-10)
#42 Don't Start Know (-5)
#45 Graveyard (-11)
#50 I Don't Care (-15)
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Post by weirdo on Dec 9, 2019 18:23:27 GMT -5
#14 No Guidance (-4) #15 Senorita (-8) #21 bad guy (-7) #22 Truth Hurts (-13) #31 Old Town Road (-11) #50 I Don't Care (-15) Wow at Truth Hurts. That song honestly may not even repeat on the 2020 YE at this rate. Im suprised that Old Town Road had that big of a fall, didn't expect it to fall out of the Top 30. I Don't Care is pretty much done |
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Post by moonlite on Dec 9, 2019 18:30:18 GMT -5
So No Guidance is outlasting Truth Hurts and Senorita? lol
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Post by lostinhavana on Dec 9, 2019 18:41:30 GMT -5
a little of topic but looks like Dance Monkey blocked Abel from #1 in Canada with Blinding Lights at 2 & Heartless at 3 which surprised me
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Post by Leo ✔ on Dec 9, 2019 18:53:03 GMT -5
Xmas songs are killing everybody
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Post by weirdo on Dec 9, 2019 19:09:40 GMT -5
1. Heartless 2. Circles 3. All I Want For Christmas Is You 4. Someone You Loved 5. Memories 6. Good As Hell 7. Roxanne 8. Rockin' Around The Christmas Tree 9. Lose You To Love Me 10. 10,000 Hours - 11. Blinding Lights 12. BOP 14. No Guidance 15. Senorita 16. Ballin 17. Panini 18. A Holly Jolly Christmas 21. bad guy 22. Truth Hurts 25. everything i wanted 27. Last Christmas 31. Old Town Road 32. Lover 34. Only Human 36. Beautiful People 41. Falling 42. Don’t Start Now 45. Graveyard 46. Into the Unknown 50. I Don't Care 51. Baby 56. Juicy 61. VIBEZ 64. Death 68. No Idea (Don Toliver) 70. Show Yourself 72. Like It's Christmas 76. Enemies 78. Baby Sitter 79. all the good girls go to hell 83. Tip Toe (Roddy Ricch & A Boogie) 85. Nice To Meet Ya 87. Slow Dancing In The Dark 94. Candy 95. TUSA Bold Prediction: i think Talk landed at #46 this week. Did How Do You Sleep? reach 20 weeks yet?, if so that probably went recurrent |
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Post by sirskimask on Dec 9, 2019 19:22:17 GMT -5
a little of topic but looks like Dance Monkey blocked Abel from #1 in Canada with Blinding Lights at 2 & Heartless at 3 which surprised me Dance Monkey needs to stop |
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Post by Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ on Dec 9, 2019 19:34:42 GMT -5
Bold Prediction: i think Talk landed at #46 this week. Did How Do You Sleep? reach 20 weeks yet?, if so that probably went recurrent19, it will next week probably. I think Suge went recurrent. |
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