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Post by tanooki on Dec 17, 2019 13:23:44 GMT -5
CANADA ROCK The week of December 21, 2019 TW LW 2W WOC Title Artist ( Peak ) Imprint | label 1 1 1 14 Father Of All... - Green Day ( 1 ) Reprise 2 3 3 13 Kingdom In My Heart - The Glorious Sons ( 2 ) Black Box Recordings 3 4 5 14 The End Of The Game - Weezer ( 3 ) Weezer, Crush Music 4 2 2 27 Go - The Black Keys ( 1 ) Nonesuch, Easy Eye Sound 5 5 4 6 Under The Graveyard - Ozzy Osbourne ( 4 ) Epic 6 6 6 13 Big Night - Anyway Gang ( 6 ) Royal Mountain 7 7 7 23 Social Cues - Cage The Elephant ( 6 ) RCA 8 8 8 18 Leave It All Behind - Headstones ( 8 ) Cadence 9 10 11 17 The Hype - twenty one pilots ( 9 ) Fueled By Ramen 10 9 9 21 BLOW - Ed Sheeran With Chris Stapleton & Bruno Mars ( 4 ) Atlantic 11 16 15 14 Shot Down - BRKN LOVE ( 11 ) Spinefarm 12 14 14 28 Panic Attack - The Glorious Sons ( 1 ) Black Box Recordings, BMG 13 11 12 33 Alligator - Of Monsters And Men ( 3 ) Republic 14 17 26 7 Dissolve - Absofacto ( 14 ) Atlantic 15 18 25 5 The Best - AWOLNATION ( 15 ) Better Noise 16 15 17 20 Cringe - Matt Maeson ( 12 ) Atlantic, Neon Gold 17 20 22 14 Give Me Back The Night - Mother Mother ( 17 ) Universal 18 12 10 26 Strangers - City And Colour ( 2 ) Dine Alone, Still 19 21 23 9 Natural Villain - The Man Who ( 19 ) Virgin 20 13 16 39 Be My Fire - The Blue Stones ( 4 ) eOne 21 26 24 10 History Of Violence - Theory Of A Deadman ( 21 ) Roadrunner, 604 22 24 20 24 Complainer - Cold War Kids ( 14 ) AWAL-Kobalt, CWKTWO 23 23 30 7 Blind Leading The Blind - Mumford & Sons ( 23 ) Glassnote, Gentlemen Of The Road 24 28 34 8 RWLYD (Really Wanna Let You Down) - Monowhales ( 24 ) Monowhales 25 22 21 18 Then Again - Half Moon Run ( 21 ) Indica 26 19 19 14 One More Chance - Big Wreck ( 19 ) warner music canada 27 32 35 7 Shakin' Off The Rust - The Blue Stones ( 27 ) eOne 28 25 18 30 Risk - Metric ( 15 ) Universal, MMI, Crystal Math 29 35 40 3 Back Foot - Dinosaur Pile-Up ( 29 ) Parlophone, Roadrunner 30 34 39 5 Want What You Got - The Beaches ( 30 ) Universal 31 29 27 10 The Hunted - Saint Asonia Featuring Sully Erna ( 27 ) Spinefarm 32 27 28 7 Orphans - Coldplay ( 27 ) Parlophone 33 40 41 5 16 - Highly Suspect ( 33 ) In De Goot, 300 34 30 33 8 All The Good Girls Go To Hell - Billie Eilish ( 30 ) Interscope, Darkroom 35 38 37 13 1965 - The Static Shift ( 35 ) Big Machine 36 33 32 4 Straight To Hell - Ozzy Osbourne ( 32 ) Epic 37 39 36 17 Rock Bottom - grandson ( 26 ) Fueled By Ramen 38 36 38 11 Life In The City - The Lumineers ( 32 ) Dualtone 39 43 44 3 Difficult Love - City And Colour ( 39 ) Dine Alone, Still 40 42 46 4 This Could Be It For Me - Hotel Mira ( 40 ) Light Organ 41 41 42 9 I Really Wish I Hated You - Blink-182 ( 39 ) Columbia, Viking Wizard Eyes 42 37 31 18 Fear Inoculum - Tool ( 25 ) RCA, Volcano, Tool Dissectional 43 45 50 4 Might Be Right - White Reaper ( 43 ) Elektra 44 NEW 1 Forgiveness I + II - Billy Talent ( 44 ) warner music canada 45 NEW 1 Running Up That Hill - Meg Myers ( 45 ) 300 46 47 -- 2 Love Never - Jimmy Eat World ( 46 ) RCA, Exotic Location 47 46 49 3 Killing Me Slowly - Bad Wolves ( 46 ) Eleven Seven 48 48 43 5 Chandelier - Texas King ( 43 ) Stype 49 44 48 3 Let There Be Love - Matt Mays ( 44 ) Sonic, Beach Fire 50 Re-Entry 17 Hopefully - Royal Foundry ( 33 ) Peertunes
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Post by Soundcl🕤ck on Dec 17, 2019 13:28:53 GMT -5
Wow, thanks Tanooki!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2019 13:39:17 GMT -5
That’s not the point. They should just be on a separate chart from the real hits. Why They have a holiday 100 for a reason, to track the most popular holiday songs.
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Post by thegreatdivine on Dec 17, 2019 13:47:09 GMT -5
I still wonder about Gary. He's usually the one who posts all the charts for each tracking week. I hope he's doing okay.
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Post by jebsib on Dec 17, 2019 13:52:03 GMT -5
Gary signed off a day or two after Billboard put up the chart paywall. I bet he was legally threatened and just bailed.
Pity - I liked his moxy.
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Post by Naos on Dec 17, 2019 14:24:03 GMT -5
Separating losses, gains, and re-entries for anyone interested:
Notable gains: #12 - Bandit (+28) #60 - Hate Me (+29) #61 - Like It's Christmas (+11) #73 - Tip Toe (+10) #74 - Suicidal (+12)
Notable losses: #17 - Heartless (-16) #41 - One Man Band (-11) #44 - Only Human (-10) #45 - On Chill (-10) #50 - Beautiful People (-14) #52 - Blinding Lights (-41) #75 - Vete (-12) #93 - Show Yourself (-23) #94 - We Were (-28) #95 - Yellow Hearts (-11)
Re-entries: #29 - Legends #49 - Robbery #58 - Start Wit Me #87 - Empty #92 - Watermelon Sugar
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Post by Lukas on Dec 17, 2019 14:30:13 GMT -5
They have a holiday 100 for a reason, to track the most popular holiday songs. By that logic, we should also get rid of Hot R&B, Hip-Hop, Country, and Rock songs from the Hot 100 because the Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Songs, Country Songs, and Rock Songs charts all exist as well to track the most popular songs in those genres with the same formula as the Hot 100. And in fact, those songs from those genres spend more time on the chart than holiday songs do. If you want a fresh chart in that case, maybe get rid of those instead.
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Dec 17, 2019 15:11:50 GMT -5
Find out disappointing that Marie Fredriksson and Roxette only managed to appear in the Social 50. I guess that's better than nothing.
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Post by Hefty Hanna on Dec 17, 2019 15:57:05 GMT -5
Question for all of you chart nerds.
Mariah has now extended her lead of Hot 100 #1s for a solo artist. I was under the impression that she had been (arguably depending on who you ask) tied with Elvis Presley for this feat at 18 #1 singles but from all of the articles I’ve read it shows Mariah at 19, Rihanna at 14 and Michael Jackson with 13 with no mention of Elvis. Is this just an error in reporting?
Even Billboard didn’t mention Elvis though so I’m a bit confused. Have his #1 hits not counted recently due to some change?
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Post by davidjl123 on Dec 17, 2019 16:01:25 GMT -5
Question for all of you chart nerds. Mariah has now extended her lead of Hot 100 #1s for a solo artist. I was under the impression that she had been (arguably depending on who you ask) tied with Elvis Presley for this feat at 18 #1 singles but from all of the articles I’ve read it shows Mariah at 19, Rihanna at 14 and Michael Jackson with 13 with no mention of Elvis. Is this just an error in reporting? Even Billboard didn’t mention Elvis though so I’m a bit confused. Have his #1 hits not counted recently due to some change? This is probably due to the fact that Elvis's career was essentially split between the pre-Hot 100 and Hot 100.
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Post by hughster1 on Dec 17, 2019 16:02:25 GMT -5
Question for all of you chart nerds. Mariah has now extended her lead of Hot 100 #1s for a solo artist. I was under the impression that she had been (arguably depending on who you ask) tied with Elvis Presley for this feat at 18 #1 singles but from all of the articles I’ve read it shows Mariah at 19, Rihanna at 14 and Michael Jackson with 13 with no mention of Elvis. Is this just an error in reporting? Even Billboard didn’t mention Elvis though so I’m a bit confused. Have his #1 hits not counted recently due to some change? Some of Elvis' number ones predate the introduction of the Hot 100 in 1958. I believe he only had eight number ones on the Hot 100.
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Post by Enigma. on Dec 17, 2019 16:02:41 GMT -5
Didn't thought Blinding Lights would drop THAT far, oops.
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Post by renfield75 on Dec 17, 2019 16:06:47 GMT -5
Find out disappointing that Marie Fredriksson and Roxette only managed to appear in the Social 50. I guess that's better than nothing. The news of her passing broke on Tuesday, so there were only a few days in the tracking week that would have been impacted (not that there likely would have been a big resurgence anyway). I was actually surprised there was as much reaction in the States as there was; as big as they were no one outside of my age group ever seems to know Roxette. Which is too bad, because they had some really great songs.
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Post by tanooki on Dec 17, 2019 16:20:33 GMT -5
Gary signed off a day or two after Billboard put up the chart paywall. I bet he was legally threatened and just bailed. Pity - I liked his moxy. I doubt that happened lol. If Gary was threatened than I would've been by now lol, not to mention ukmix has people post charts there too
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Post by jenglisbe on Dec 17, 2019 16:22:30 GMT -5
They have a holiday 100 for a reason, to track the most popular holiday songs. They also have a Country chart, a Pop chart, an R&B chart, etc. What would even be left once we take off songs that are eligible for component charts?
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Dec 17, 2019 16:24:12 GMT -5
Find out disappointing that Marie Fredriksson and Roxette only managed to appear in the Social 50. I guess that's better than nothing. The news of her passing broke on Tuesday, so there were only a few days in the tracking week that would have been impacted (not that there likely would have been a big resurgence anyway). I was actually surprised there was as much reaction in the States as there was; as big as they were no one outside of my age group ever seems to know Roxette. Which is too bad, because they had some really great songs. True. It's a shame that the music by these some of those older acts only becomes known to younger audiences if they pass away.
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Post by clsvltn on Dec 17, 2019 17:10:27 GMT -5
It still baffles me that people are upset that Christmas songs are charting lol
The Hot 100 is for the most popular songs of the week. And in this week, Mariah's was the most popular. Who cares if it was from 1994, 2004, 2014 or 2019, it was still one of the most important songs of the week and in our culture. It should be noted. If anything, the Hot 100 charts of the past were flawed for screwing over giant songs that are still legendary today that couldn't chart due to not having a physical single out.
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Post by nathanalbright on Dec 17, 2019 17:30:02 GMT -5
It still baffles me that people are upset that Christmas songs are charting lol The Hot 100 is for the most popular songs of the week. And in this week, Mariah's was the most popular. Who cares if it was from 1994, 2004, 2014 or 2019, it was still one of the most important songs of the week and in our culture. It should be noted. If anything, the Hot 100 charts of the past were flawed for screwing over giant songs that are still legendary today that couldn't chart due to not having a physical single out. It wouldn't be Pulse if some people weren't upset with it at least.
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Post by moonlite on Dec 17, 2019 18:04:16 GMT -5
Why are people upset with people being upset about Christmas songs?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2019 18:07:52 GMT -5
They have a holiday 100 for a reason, to track the most popular holiday songs. By that logic, we should also get rid of Hot R&B, Hip-Hop, Country, and Rock songs from the Hot 100 because the Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Songs, Country Songs, and Rock Songs charts all exist as well to track the most popular songs in those genres with the same formula as the Hot 100. And in fact, those songs from those genres spend more time on the chart than holiday songs do. If you want a fresh chart in that case, maybe get rid of those instead. Yeah their songs that get released and have a chart run then fall off, not return every year like the holiday songs....
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Post by jenglisbe on Dec 17, 2019 18:14:29 GMT -5
The news of her passing broke on Tuesday, so there were only a few days in the tracking week that would have been impacted (not that there likely would have been a big resurgence anyway). I was actually surprised there was as much reaction in the States as there was; as big as they were no one outside of my age group ever seems to know Roxette. Which is too bad, because they had some really great songs. True. It's a shame that the music by these some of those older acts only becomes known to younger audiences if they pass away. Sure, but there’s not enough time in the day for people to listen to all songs by all acts.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2019 18:15:15 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure they gonna allow AIWFCIY to chart at every opportunity possible until it has reached 50 weeks at #1, 150 weeks in the top 10, and #1 on the GOAT list.
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Post by tanooki on Dec 17, 2019 18:20:20 GMT -5
Juice WRLD Charts Seven Songs on Billboard Hot 100, Led by 'Lucid Dreams' 12/17/2019 by Xander Zellnerwww.billboard.com/articles/business/chart-beat/8546557/juice-wrld-charts-seven-songs-billboard-hot-100The rapper/singer's breakthrough hit returns to the top 10 after his death on Dec. 8. Following Juice WRLD's death on Dec. 8, the late rapper/singer charts seven songs on the Billboard Hot 100 (dated Dec. 21). As previously reported, his breakthrough single "Lucid Dreams" re-enters at No. 8, returning to the top 10 for the first time since Dec. 8, 2018. It peaked at No. 2 on Oct. 6, 2018. The track returns with 38.6 million U.S. streams (up 235%) in the week ending Dec. 12, according to Nielsen Music, as it also re-enters Streaming Songs at No. 2. It sold 8,000 downloads (up 1,637%) and returns to Digital Song Sales at No. 14 after drawing 9.9 million radio audience impressions (up 66%) in the tracking week. Of Juice WRLD's seven entries on the latest Hot 100, four re-enter, while the other three continue their respective chart runs. Here's a look at all seven of Juice WLRD's songs on the new, Dec. 21-dated Hot 100: Hot 100 rank, Title No. 8, "Lucid Dreams" (re-entry) No. 12, "Bandit," with YoungBoy Never Broke Again No. 29, "Legends" (re-entry) No. 49, "Robbery" (re-entry) No. 60, "Hate Me," with Ellie Goulding No. 78, "6 Kiss" (Trippie Redd feat. Juice WRLD & YNW Melly) No. 87, "Empty" (re-entry) Juice WRLD (full name: Jarad Higgins) charted 25 songs on the Hot 100 during his lifetime, with two reaching the top 10 ("Lucid Dreams" and the No. 10-peaking "Bandit") and six hitting the top 40. He charted 16 of those 25 titles on the Hot 100 in 2019, tied for sixth-most among all artists. Concurrently, both of Juice WRLD's solo studio albums return to the top 10 of the Billboard 200. Goodbye & Good Riddance vaults 71-6 with 59,000 equivalent album units earned in the U.S. (up 405%), while his former No. 1, Death Race for Love, jumps 88-10 with 49,000 units (up 380%).
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Post by Au$tin on Dec 17, 2019 18:59:40 GMT -5
Why are people upset with people being upset about Christmas songs? Because it's a non-issue and there really hasn't been a good point presented by that side of the argument yet. Their best argument is "they're old and clutter the chart." Yeah.... so are the recurrents they kick out, so...
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Post by moonlite on Dec 17, 2019 19:14:45 GMT -5
Why are people upset with people being upset about Christmas songs? Because it's a non-issue and there really hasn't been a good point presented by that side of the argument yet. Their best argument is "they're old and clutter the chart." Yeah.... so are the recurrents they kick out, so... They are old and clutter the chart... how is that a bad argument... and what recurrent songs are as old as the majority of these Christmas songs The Hot 100 is about what’s hot, current and fresh (which is why reccurent rules exist). Songs charting from when President Kennedy was in office are NOT hot, current and fresh. Simple. And eventually these songs will end up littering the all time charts for being basically yearly background music. This isn’t really an argument lol Billboard agrees with us anti-Holidayers and will ban them expeditiously. If we want to know the most popular Holiday songs of the week, we can just look at the good ol Holiday 100
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Post by Mayman on Dec 17, 2019 19:17:57 GMT -5
How are they not hot when they're some of the most consumed songs of the week?
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Post by tanooki on Dec 17, 2019 19:24:38 GMT -5
Because it's a non-issue and there really hasn't been a good point presented by that side of the argument yet. Their best argument is "they're old and clutter the chart." Yeah.... so are the recurrents they kick out, so... What recurrent songs are as old as the majority of these Christmas songs lmao The Hot 100 is about what’s hot, current and fresh (which is why reccurent rules exist). Songs charting from when President Kennedy was in office are NOT hot, current and fresh. Simple This isn’t really an argument lol Billboard agrees with us anti-Holidayers and will ban them expeditiously. If we want to know the most popular Holiday songs of the week, we can just look at the good ol Holiday 100 So if a legacy artist dies, their songs should not be allowed to chart If an old song regains popularity from a meme or commerical or use in a TV show or something, that shouldn't be reflected and allowed to chart If a hugely popular album or single gets a special rerelease, say for an anniversary or reunion or something, that shouldn't be reflected and allowed to chart If a live performance boosts an older song and it gets enough points to rechart, that shouldn't be reflected and allowed to chart bad opinion, I want the hot 100 to reflect whats popular, not whats new. I can look at a Spotify playlist for that. If a bunch of songs from 61-63 (i think? Thats when Kennedy was in office?) randomly gain popularity and have enough points to chart, they should be able to chart. Period. If a song gets some random boost and it's big enough to chart on the Hot 100 again, than I would say it's "hot". Christmas songs are hot right now. There's no denying this, you can't just pretend that popular Christmas songs don't exist because you want an old 40-week song only around because of recurrent airplay to keep charting. Every argument against Christmas songs charting is just... bad.
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Post by moonlite on Dec 17, 2019 19:26:27 GMT -5
How are they not hot when they're some of the most consumed songs of the week? You need to speak to Billboard about that, I dont make the rules. Sunflower is one of the most consumed songs of this week and isnt charting. Because it aint current or fresh
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Post by weirdo on Dec 17, 2019 19:27:28 GMT -5
What recurrent songs are as old as the majority of these Christmas songs lmao The Hot 100 is about what’s hot, current and fresh (which is why reccurent rules exist). Songs charting from when President Kennedy was in office are NOT hot, current and fresh. Simple This isn’t really an argument lol Billboard agrees with us anti-Holidayers and will ban them expeditiously. If we want to know the most popular Holiday songs of the week, we can just look at the good ol Holiday 100 So if a legacy artist dies, their songs should not be allowed to chart If an old song regains popularity from a meme or commerical or use in a TV show or something, that shouldn't be reflected and allowed to chart If a hugely popular album or single gets a special rerelease, say for an anniversary or reunion or something, that shouldn't be reflected and allowed to chart If a live performance boosts an older song and it gets enough points to rechart, that shouldn't be reflected and allowed to chart bad opinion, I want the hot 100 to reflect whats popular, not whats new. I can look at a Spotify playlist for that. If a bunch of songs from 61-63 (i think? Thats when Kennedy was in office?) randomly gain popularity and have enough points to chart, they should be able to chart. Period. If a song gets some random boost and it's big enough to chart on the Hot 100 again, than I would say it's "hot". Christmas songs are hot right now. There's no denying this, you can't just pretend that popular Christmas songs don't exist because you want an old 40-week song only around because of recurrent airplay to keep charting. Every argument against Christmas songs charting is just... bad. A easy solution would be to stop recurrent rules during the holidays. That way the christmas music would still be allowed to chart, but st the same time songs like Old Town Road and Only Human that are still pretty popular dont get knocked out because of some songs from 70 years ago. Win-win situation for everyone
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Post by Mayman on Dec 17, 2019 19:28:19 GMT -5
How are they not hot when they're some of the most consumed songs of the week? You need to speak to Billboard about that, I dont make the rules. Sunflower is one of the most consumed songs of this week and isnt charting. Because it aint current or fresh Yeah and you can't make up the definition of what "hot" means either. And btw, I think Sunflower should still be charting and the 25/52 rule is really unnecessary.
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