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Post by mikerivera on Jul 3, 2021 15:00:56 GMT -5
Songs that missed
Made 1986: -Everybody Have Fun Tonight -Hip to Be Square -The Next Time I Fall -The Way it Is -To Be a Lover
Caught Between Years: -Control -Don't Get Me Wrong -Is This Love (Survivor) -Love You Down -Notorious -Someday -Stand By Me* -Victory
*caught between years on it's 1986-1987 chart run. Should still make the 1961 list
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Post by mikerivera on Jul 3, 2021 15:06:46 GMT -5
Next closest 10 Rank | Song | Artist | Points | 101 | Wipe Out | Fat Boys & The Beach Boys | 175,150 | 102 | Control | Janet Jackson | 169,380 | 103 | Touch of Grey | Grateful Dead | 162,650 | 104 | Catch Me (I'm Falling) | Pretty Poison | 162,090 | 105 | Someday | Glass Tiger | 162,000 | 106 | One Heartbeat | Smokey Robinson | 161,990 | 107 | Lessons in Love | Level 42 | 161,400 | 108 | Walking Down Your Street | The Bangles | 161,050 | 109 | Love You Down | Ready For the World | 160,200 | 110 | Girls, Girls, Girls | Motley Crue | 158,720 |
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Post by phieaglesfan712 on Jul 3, 2021 15:37:28 GMT -5
Not Jan-Dec, but another interesting way to look at changed dates is a year end for a school year. While it's not done yet, here's the top 100 songs of the 19-20 school year so far (7/6-6/27). 1. Señorita 2. Truth Hurts 3. Someone You Loved 4. bad guy 5. No Guidance 6. Circles7. Old Town Road 8. I Don't Care9. Panini 10. Ran$om 11. Talk 12. Sucker 13. Memories 14. Good As Hell 15. Trampoline 16. Goodbyes 17. Beautiful People 18. Suge 19. 10,000 Hours 20. Ballin’21. Money In The Grave 22. Only Human 23. Lose You To Love Me24. Sunflower 25. Highest In The Room 26. Hot27. You Need To Calm Down 28. Dance Monkey29. Dancing With a Stranger 30. Roxanne 31. Bop32. Lover 33. On Chill 34. If I Can’t Have You 35. Bandit 36. One Man Band37. Wow. 38. Baby 39. The Git Up 40. The Box41. How Do You Sleep? 42. Even Though I'm Leaving43. My Type 44. One Thing Right 45. Hot Girl Bummer46. Without Me 47. The London 48. The Bones49. Hot Girl Summer 50. Graveyard 51. Playing Games 52. Don't Start Now53. Take What You Want 54. Everything I Wanted55. Pop Out 56. Heat 57. Beer Never Broke My Heart 58. Heartless59. Cash s**t 60. Woah61. Time 62. Hey Look Ma, I Made It 63. Camelot64. All I Want For Christmas Is You 65. Speechless 66. VibezPREDICTED CUTOFF - 17K POINTS 67. Prayed For You 68. 223's 69. Boyfriend 70. I Don't Know About You 71. Knockin' Boots 72. God's Country 73. Enemies 74. Lalala 75. China 76. Heartache Medication - WA: 377. What If I Never Get Over You 78. Hate Me 79. Otro Trago 80. 7 Rings 81. Juicy - WA: 382. Callaita 83. Kinfolks - WA: 384. Baby Sitter 85. Falling - WA: 386. Whiskey Glasses 87. Remember You Young 88. Tip of My Tongue 89. All To Myself 90. Blinding Lights - WA: 391. Rockin' Around The Christmas Tree 92. Life Is Good - WA: 293. Living 94. Shotta Flow 95. Rearview Town 96. The Ones That Didn't Make It Back Home 97. Adore You - WA: 498. ME! 99. Never Really Over 100. Happier 101. Ridin' Roads - WA: 9102. Heart On Ice - WA: 7104. Suicidal - WA: 6105. Yummy - WA: 4If anyone wants this for 18-19, I'd be happy to do it. Can you do the list for 2020-2021 (7/4/2020 - 6/26/2021)? Does Blinding Lights still end up as #1 despite not being #1 during the period?
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Post by Groovy on Jul 3, 2021 15:58:52 GMT -5
Is Walk Like an Egyptian the biggest drop off for a year end?
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Post by phieaglesfan712 on Jul 3, 2021 16:07:41 GMT -5
Walk Like an Egyptian was actually higher on mikerivera's the 1986 list (#51) than the 1987 list. I wouldn't be surprised, though, if Lookaway misses his 1989 list altogether, although I would expect it to be on the 1988 list.
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Post by mikerivera on Jul 3, 2021 16:13:32 GMT -5
You mean for these lists? Not even close. Just going back a few years prior, Wake Me Up Before You Go-Go was #3 on the official 1985 list. On my lists, it was #12 in 1984 and completely missed in 1985 (and wasn’t even close; it only had about 25k points). Now in terms of YE1s, yeah so far it is, mainly because it’s run is split in half. It would easily be #1 in 1986 or 1987 if it’s run was condensed into one year (although by that standard, both Say You, Say Me and That’s What Friends Are For would have it beat in 1986). I say so far because Faith is the YE1 of 1988, and I don’t think it’ll even make my 88 list.
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Post by mikerivera on Jul 3, 2021 16:29:34 GMT -5
And if anyone is curious why the top of the chart looks so much different from the official chart, it’s because starting in 1985, Billboard stopped using hard cutoff dates for the year end charts. Instead, they would count a song’s entire chart run all the way to the last week of December of the present year for songs that had peaked in December of the previous year through November of the current year. So when you see songs like Walk Like an Egyptian and Faith as YE1s, they’re having their entire chart runs being counted even though they started charting and even peaked the previous year. I assume Billboard did this to prevent big songs from being caught between years, but the end result is that it muddies the term “year.” You also have situations like I’ve Had the Time of My Life and Heaven is a Place on Earth charting at the same time, having incredibly similar runs, and yet ending up on different year ends because the former peaked at #1 on the last week of November, while the latter peaked at #1 the first week of December. It also means Heaven is a Place on Earth had its entire chart run counted for 1988 (and was therefore able to finish in the YE top 10), while I’ve Had the Time of My Life is lower on the 1987 chart because it doesn’t get to count its 1988 weeks
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Post by gikem on Jul 3, 2021 18:50:19 GMT -5
Great to see The Final Countdown and The One I Love make the new 1987 list. I’m still amazed that the former is actually Europe’s second-biggest hit while the terrible Carrie cracked the top 5.
Also wow @ a Grateful Dead song very nearly making the list, that’s pretty impressive.
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Post by mikerivera on Jul 3, 2021 19:45:29 GMT -5
I still don’t get why The Final Countdown makes so many “worst songs ever” lists. Like yeah, it’s shamelessly cheesy and I don’t think Europe actually knows anything about astronomy. But that synth riff is one of the most memorable in music history, the guitar solo kicks ass, and similar to Livin on a Prayer and Don’t Stop Believin, Europe is so committed to the song that it transcends the cheese to become iconic. And besides, how is Carrie not worse in every way? It’s just as cheesy but without anything that makes The Final Countdown fun
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Post by Groovy on Jul 3, 2021 19:47:53 GMT -5
You mean for these lists? Not even close. Just going back a few years prior, Wake Me Up Before You Go-Go was #3 on the official 1985 list. On my lists, it was #12 in 1984 and completely missed in 1985 (and wasn’t even close; it only had about 25k points). Now in terms of YE1s, yeah so far it is, mainly because it’s run is split in half. It would easily be #1 in 1986 or 1987 if it’s run was condensed into one year (although by that standard, both Say You, Say Me and That’s What Friends Are For would have it beat in 1986). I say so far because Faith is the YE1 of 1988, and I don’t think it’ll even make my 88 list. I meant for a YE topper.
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Post by inverse on Jul 4, 2021 0:09:39 GMT -5
How are you going to have a 1987 Year End list and not have Gregory Abbott at #3?!?! This is a scam I demand a refund!
Real talk noticing the #1 songs are getting smaller as the decade goes on. This one would have been as low as 18 in 1981 (although "Alone" is iconic I'd much rather have it at #1 than #18)
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Post by Private Dancer on Jul 4, 2021 0:12:20 GMT -5
The 1987 list Rank | Song | Artist | Peak | Top 10 | Hot 100 | Points | 1 | Alone | Heart | #1 (3 weeks) | 8 | 21 | 407,770 | 2 | Livin' on a Prayer | Bon Jovi | #1 (4 weeks) | 7 | 18 | 393,880 | 3 | Nothing's Gonna Stop Us Now | Starship | #1 (2 weeks) | 8 | 22 | 388,530 | 4 | I Wanna Dance With Somebody | Whitney Houston | #1 (2 weeks) | 9 | 18 | 386,270 | 5 | La Bamba | Los Lobos | #1 (3 weeks) | 7 | 21 | 383,710 | 6 | Here I Go Again | Whitesnake | #1 | 7 | 26 | 377,210 | 7 | With or Without You | U2 | #1 (3 weeks) | 8 | 18 | 366,160 | 8 | Shakedown | Bob Seger | #1 | 7 | 18 | 364,020 | 9 | Always | Atlantic Starr | #1 | 7 | 22 | 345,140 | 10 | I Think We're Alone Now | Tiffany | #1 (2 weeks) | 6 | 18 | 339,190 | 11 | Don't Dream it's Over | Crowded House | #2 | 7 | 24 | 338,630 | 12 | I Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For | U2 | #1 (2 weeks) | 7 | 17 | 336,490 | 13 | Didn't We Almost Have it All | Whitney Houston | #1 (2 weeks) | 7 | 17 | 336,310 | 14 | Looking For a New Love | Jody Watley | #2 | 6 | 19 | 335,850 | 15 | Head to Toe | Lisa Lisa & Cult Jam | #1 | 7 | 20 | 335,300 | 16 | Lean on Me | Club Nouveau | #1 (2 weeks) | 6 | 17 | 328,150 | 17 | Mony Mony | Billy Idol | #1 | 6 | 17 | 322,620 | 18 | (I Just) Died in Your Arms | Cutting Crew | #1 (2 weeks) | 6 | 19 | 314,400 | 19 | The Lady in Red | Chris de Burgh | #3 | 6 | 26 | 314,320 | 20 | (I've Had) The Time of My Life | Bill Medley & Jennifer Warnes | #1 | 6 | 14 | 310,990 | 21 | Lost in Emotion | Lisa Lisa & Cult Jam | #1 | 6 | 20 | 309,690 | 22 | I Want Your Sex | George Michael | #2 | 6 | 20 | 308,610 | 23 | Heaven is a Place on Earth | Belinda Carlisle | #1 | 6 | 14 | 308,160 | 24 | You Keep Me Hangin' On | Kim Wilde | #1 | 6 | 21 | 306,860 | 25 | I Knew You Were Waiting (For Me) | Aretha Franklin & George Michael | #1 (2 weeks) | 7 | 17 | 306,810 | 26 | Only in My Dreams | Debbie Gibson | #4 | 5 | 28 | 305,590 | 27 | Jacob's Ladder | Huey Lewis & The News | #1 | 6 | 15 | 292,250 | 28 | Who's That Girl | Madonna | #1 | 6 | 16 | 291,960 | 29 | Heart and Soul | T'Pau | #4 | 5 | 27 | 290,900 | 30 | At This Moment | Billy Vera & The Beaters | #1 (2 weeks) | 6 | 13 | 287,390 | 31 | U Got the Look | Prince | #2 | 6 | 22 | 285,770 | 32 | I Just Can't Stop Loving You | Michael Jackson & Siedah Garrett | #1 | 6 | 14 | 282,470 | 33 | Faith | George Michael | #1 (3 weeks) | 6 | 10 | 280,940 | 34 | Open Your Heart | Madonna | #1 | 6 | 14 | 278,340 | 35 | Somewhere Out There | Linda Ronstadt & James Ingram | #2 | 5 | 20 | 277,170 | 36 | Causing a Commotion | Madonna | #2 | 5 | 16 | 272,050 | 37 | Let's Wait Awhile | Janet Jackson | #2 | 5 | 19 | 265,850 | 38 | Bad | Michael Jackson | #1 (2 weeks) | 5 | 14 | 263,440 | 39 | Keep Your Hands to Yourself | Georgia Satellites | #2 | 5 | 14 | 262,530 | 40 | In Too Deep | Genesis | #3 | 5 | 17 | 257,100 | 41 | I Heard a Rumor | Bananarama | #4 | 6 | 19 | 255,020 | 42 | Don't Mean Nothing | Richard Marx | #3 | 4 | 21 | 253,410 | 43 | Carrie | Europe | #3 | 5 | 19 | 252,920 | 44 | Songbird | Kenny G | #4 | 4 | 22 | 252,680 | 45 | Luka | Suzanne Vega | #3 | 5 | 19 | 252,150 | 46 | You Got it All | The Jets | #3 | 4 | 19 | 251,620 | 47 | Should've Known Better | Richard Marx | #3 | 5 | 14 | 244,760 | 48 | Don't Disturb This Groove | The System | #4 | 4 | 21 | 243,930 | 49 | La Isla Bonita | Madonna | #4 | 5 | 17 | 242,740 | 50 | Can't We Try | Dan Hill ft. Vonda Shepard | #6 | 4 | 24 | 239,930 | 51 | Sign o' the Times | Prince | #3 | 5 | 14 | 238,560 | 52 | Come Go With Me | Exposé | #5 | 5 | 19 | 238,310 | 53 | Will You Still Love Me | Chicago | #3 | 4 | 16 | 234,940 | 54 | Mandolin Rain | Bruce Hornsby & The Range | #4 | 5 | 18 | 234,270 | 55 | Breakout | Swing Out Sister | #6 | 4 | 20 | 232,920 | 56 | Rock Steady | The Whispers | #7 | 3 | 23 | 229,160 | 57 | When Smokey Sings | ABC | #5 | 4 | 19 | 226,520 | 58 | The Finer Things | Steve Winwood | #8 | 4 | 23 | 226,370 | 59 | Casanova | LeVert | #5 | 4 | 18 | 225,710 | 60 | Wanted Dead or Alive | Bon Jovi | #7 | 5 | 17 | 225,540 | 61 | C'est la Vie | Robbie Nevil | #2 | 5 | 11 | 225,290 | 62 | Rhythm is Gonna Get You | Gloria Estefan & Miami Sound Machine | #5 | 5 | 17 | 225,050 | 63 | Tonight, Tonight, Tonight | Genesis | #3 | 4 | 15 | 224,820 | 64 | Touch Me (I Want Your Body) | Samantha Fox | #4 | 4 | 14 | 223,850 | 65 | Let Me Be the One | Exposé | #7 | 3 | 20 | 223,840 | 66 | Little Lies | Fleetwood Mac | #4 | 5 | 18 | 222,640 | 67 | Shake You Down | Gregory Abbott | #1 | 5 | 11 | 220,850 | 68 | Diamonds | Herb Alpert & The Tijuana Brass | #5 | 4 | 19 | 216,020 | 69 | Midnight Blue | Lou Gramm | #5 | 3 | 20 | 214,180 | 70 | Big Time | Peter Gabriel | #8 | 4 | 18 | 213,750 | 71 | Something So Strong | Crowded House | #7 | 3 | 21 | 212,870 | 72 | Point of No Return | Exposé | #5 | 4 | 17 | 212,170 | 73 | Nothing's Gonna Change My Love For You | Glenn Medeiros | #12 |
| 25 | 211,780 | 74 | Just to See Her | Smokey Robinson | #8 | 4 | 21 | 209,320 | 75 | Big Love | Fleetwood Mac | #5 | 5 | 16 | 209,060 | 76 | Change of Heart | Cyndi Lauper | #4 | 5 | 12 | 207,550 | 77 | Heat of the Night | Bryan Adams | #6 | 4 | 16 | 206,930 | 78 | Shake Your Love | Debbie Gibson | #4 | 5 | 13 | 205,440 | 79 | Who Will You Run To | Heart | #7 | 3 | 20 | 200,350 | 80 | Is This Love | Whitesnake | #2 | 4 | 10 | 199,730 | 81 | Brilliant Disguise | Bruce Springsteen | #5 | 5 | 13 | 196,130 | 82 | Right on Track | The Breakfast Club | #7 | 1 | 19 | 193,970 | 83 | Meet Me Half Way | Kenny Loggins | #11 |
| 25 | 193,960 | 84 | Respect Yourself | Bruce Willis | #5 | 4 | 14 | 193,320 | 85 | Walk Like an Egyptian* | The Bangles | #1 (2 weeks) | 3 | 9 | 192,700 | 86 | Cross My Broken Heart | The Jets | #7 | 3 | 16 | 192,120 | 87 | Doing it All For My Baby | Huey Lewis & The News | #6 | 3 | 16 | 191,170 | 88 | We'll Be Together | Sting | #7 | 4 | 12 | 184,840 | 89 | Land of Confusion | Genesis | #4 | 4 | 12 | 183,970 | 90 | I've Been in Love Before | Cutting Crew | #9 | 2 | 17 | 179,450 | 91 | Don't You Want Me | Jody Watley | #6 | 4 | 13 | 178,650 | 92 | Funkytown | Pseudo Echo | #9 | 3 | 15 | 178,560 | 93 | Ballerina Girl | Lionel Richie | #7 | 3 | 14 | 178,320 | 94 | The Final Countdown | Europe | #8 | 2 | 18 | 177,450 | 95 | (You Gotta) Fight For Your Right (To Party) | Beastie Boys | #7 | 2 | 16 | 177,390 | 96 | So Emotional | Whitney Houston | #2 | 4 | 9 | 177,350 | 97 | Paper in Fire | John Mellencamp | #9 | 3 | 16 | 177,300 | 98 | Let's Go! | Wang Chung | #9 | 2 | 18 | 177,130 | 99 | The One I Love | R.E.M. | #9 | 1 | 15 | 177,080 | 100 | It's a Sin | Pet Shop Boys | #9 | 2 | 17 | 176,960 |
I like this list better and it makes more sense of what is still popular now...but what happened to Taylor Dayne she had two top tens that year?
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Post by Private Dancer on Jul 4, 2021 0:19:40 GMT -5
Also is there a way to do this with the R&R charts?
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Post by urtarreviews on Jul 4, 2021 3:05:42 GMT -5
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Post by mikerivera on Jul 4, 2021 9:28:05 GMT -5
Also is there a way to do this with the R&R charts? Unfortunately, the website I use to view a song’s entire chart run at once doesn’t include the R&R charts. I would need to view the publications week by week, and that takes too long for something that’s just a hobby
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Post by Private Dancer on Jul 4, 2021 11:30:08 GMT -5
Also is there a way to do this with the R&R charts? Unfortunately, the website I use to view a song’s entire chart run at once doesn’t include the R&R charts. I would need to view the publications week by week, and that takes too long for something that’s just a hobby Do you know what happened to the songs Tell It To My Heart and Prove Your Love? And why they didn't make the YE
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Post by mikerivera on Jul 4, 2021 12:25:08 GMT -5
Unfortunately, the website I use to view a song’s entire chart run at once doesn’t include the R&R charts. I would need to view the publications week by week, and that takes too long for something that’s just a hobby Do you know what happened to the songs Tell It To My Heart and Prove Your Love? And why they didn't make the YE Well Prove Your Love charted entirely in 1988, and it’ll definitely be in contention to make that YE. Tell It To My Heart came out too late in 1987 and didn’t hit a high enough peak to make that list (#12). It’ll have another shot in 1988 when it actually got into the top 10, but most likely it’ll be caught between years. If this was the early years of the 80s it would probably make it, but as the top of the chart gets weaker every year, the cutoff line goes higher
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Post by inverse on Jul 4, 2021 17:11:41 GMT -5
Also is there a way to do this with the R&R charts? Unfortunately, the website I use to view a song’s entire chart run at once doesn’t include the R&R charts. I would need to view the publications week by week, and that takes too long for something that’s just a hobby There's a website for this? I just go through them week by week lol.
Do you have an archive of the TOTC website
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Post by mikerivera on Jul 5, 2021 0:14:18 GMT -5
Unfortunately, the website I use to view a song’s entire chart run at once doesn’t include the R&R charts. I would need to view the publications week by week, and that takes too long for something that’s just a hobby There's a website for this? I just go through them week by week lol.
Do you have an archive of the TOTC website
I use racpro.com. I do have to pay for it, but doing this exercise, it’s completely worth it to get a song’s entire run condensed into one page and not have to deal with Billboard’s awful website. It covers every weekly hot 100 chart from the beginning to the present day, the main genre charts (top 40, rap/R&B, country, alternative, mainstream rock), the airplay charts, and the old Cash Box charts. You can search songs by year, artist or title, and it will arrange them either by peak or by the website’s own points (which I don’t feel is particularly accurate, but you can ignore it pretty easily). Plus the cost isn’t too bad-I paid $50 in February and have access until the end of October.
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Post by Private Dancer on Jul 5, 2021 10:09:01 GMT -5
It would be interesting to see the R&B charts from 1980-present using this method
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Post by inverse on Jul 5, 2021 15:56:02 GMT -5
And here we got 1964 and I don't think I've ever seen one year dominated by a single artist so thoroughly. That's right 1964 was the year of The Trashmen! You know the guys who made that song about the bird, the bird, the bird is the word you know the bird bird bird bird is the word I know that everybody's heard
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| Out Of Limits
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| The Honeycombs
| Have I The Right?
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| Walk On By
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| Bobby Freeman
| C'mon And Swim
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| You Really Got Me
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| The Dave Clark Five
| Because
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| The Trashmen
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| Stan Getz & Astrud Gilberto
| The Girl From Ipanema
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| Betty Everett
| The Shoop Shoop Song (It's In His Kiss)
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| Diane Renay
| Navy Blue
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| The Rolling Stones
| Time Is On My Side
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| Chad & Jeremy
| A Summer Song
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| The Beach Boys
| Fun, Fun, Fun
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| The Dave Clark Five
| Can't You See That She's Mine
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| Come See About Me
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| The Murmaids
| Popsicles And Icicles
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| White On White
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| The Rivieras
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| Forget Him
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| Ronnie
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| Dang Me
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| For You
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| Keep On Pushing
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| The Door Is Still Open To My Heart
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| Baby I Need Your Loving
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| Little Honda
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| Bobby Goldsboro
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| The Bachelors
| Diane
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| Roy Orbison
| It's Over
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| Gene Pitney
| I'm Gonna Be Strong
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| Dionne Warwick
| Anyone Who Had A Heart
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| Al Martino
| I Love You More And More Every Day
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| The Temptations
| The Way You Do The Things You Do
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| I Wanna Love Him So Bad
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| The Tams
| What Kind Of Fool (Do You Think I Am)
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| The Ventures
| Walk, Don't Run '64
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| Gerry & The Pacemakers
| How Do You Do It?
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| Elvis Presley
| Ask Me
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| Joe Hinton
| Funny How Time Slips Away
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| When I Grow Up To Become A Man
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| Bad To Me
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| Jumpin' Gene Simmons
| Haunted House
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| Today
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Post by gikem on Jul 5, 2021 16:13:09 GMT -5
Interesting that there’s now one less Beatles song on the new 1964 list with the exclusion of I Saw Her Standing There (I presume it got calculated out since it peaked at #14?). Meaning that in terms of these lists, the Beatles in 1964 were technically slightly less successful than both Drake and Cardi B in 2018. Amazing that both of those artists alone occupy nearly a fifth of that entire YE.
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Post by inverse on Jul 5, 2021 16:34:45 GMT -5
Songs from the original that missed here: #80 - The Shelter Of Your Arms #81 - I'm So Proud #84 - Cotton Candy #86 - Money #87 - Don't Throw Your Love Away #88 - Hi-Heel Sneakers #91 - Do You Love Me #92 - Shangri-La #94 - Steal Away #95 - I Saw Her Standing There #96 - A Fool Never Learns #100 - Needles And Pins After a fairly unobjectionable 1966 chart we return to an unmitigated disaster with this chart year. It was a 50-week year where the last two weeks just didn't contribute to anything and somehow they just forgot to put "Fun, Fun, Fun" by the Beach Boys and "California Sun" by the Rivieras on the list! If you calculate the inverse points they should both be around 70-75 but they didn't appear on the list which shows the level of attention Billboard gave these early lists. Just for reference here's the bottom few songs I Saw Her Standing There - 739 A Fool Never Learns - 730 Bad To Me - 730 There! I've Said It Again - 729 Louie Louie - 729 Needles And Pins - 729 California Sun - 801 Fun, Fun, Fun - 860 Huh??? Anyone back to my list song #100 is ridiculously lucky (albeit a great song), a 4,500 point gap is very rare when you get that low (if it went down another 4,500 points it would become song #114 because there's an absolutely massive clump that it just eked out the top spot of). I have to imagine that this is the lowest cutoff that we get, the entire bottom 30 or so was extremely weak on the original list with a ton of tiny 11 week chart runs. (Don't Throw Your Love Away with 143301 points is the smallest song I've seen on any of the four I've done so far). I thought the Beatles could maybe get 10 songs but they actually went down from 9 to 8 because I Saw Her Standing There dropped out the bottom (it wasn't much stronger than Don't Throw Your Love Away) and they didn't pick up anything else. Still though 6 of the top 20 isn't bad. Another thing I'm curious about is if anyone will ever have 3 songs in the top 10? Both Chris Brown and Ace Of Base went down to just two when the format switched & the Beatles just missed here (would certainly have preferred A Hard Day's Night over something called Do Wah Diddy Diddy). We'll see if the Bee Gees' year stays intact I guess. Anyway next I'll do 1967 which I really know nothing about but should be exciting!
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| No Particular Place To Go
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| My Heart Belongs To Only You
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Post by inverse on Jul 5, 2021 16:45:35 GMT -5
Interesting that there’s now one less Beatles song on the new 1964 list with the exclusion of I Saw Her Standing There (I presume it got calculated out since it peaked at #14?). Meaning that it terms of these lists, the Beatles in 1964 were technically slightly less successful than both Drake and Cardi B in 2018. Amazing that both of those artists alone occupy nearly a fifth of that entire YE. Yeah it really wasn't even very close in fact I Feel Fine was closer despite debuting in December
It's not impossible for a #14 peak to make my list but Billboard's 100-1 inverse always puts songs with short runs and low peaks in that then get calculated out, especially this year. For a pretty egregious example compare song #47 on the original with song #52 (Can't Buy Me Love)
5-5-6-8-9-10-14-15-31-31-58 1-1-1-1-1-5-11-23-27-42
The top song actually wins because weeks at #1 are only barely given more than weeks from 5-10 and so once you dump on 43 points from the extra week at #58 all of a sudden this random #5 beats a 5 week #1.
And so I Saw Her Standing There was a beneficiary of this type of thing.
I should ask would people be curious to see the song 101-110 from all these lists? I don't wanna copy Mike's format too hard but also I think it's a cool idea
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Post by gikem on Jul 5, 2021 16:50:02 GMT -5
^Absolutely, I would love to see what finished in the 101-110 spots for the '60s years you've covered so far (and thereafter). It really makes sense for these pre-SoundScan lists, when chart runs were much shorter than they are now.
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Post by inverse on Jul 6, 2021 2:49:07 GMT -5
Another thing I'm curious about is if anyone will ever have 3 songs in the top 10? Both Chris Brown and Ace Of Base went down to just two when the format switched & the Beatles just missed here (would certainly have preferred A Hard Day's Night over something called Do Wah Diddy Diddy). We'll see if the Bee Gees' year stays intact I guess. For those curious I looked into this and there's been two so far, Usher in 2004 & Michael Jackson in 1983.
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Post by Groovy on Jul 6, 2021 10:33:39 GMT -5
1964 is one of those cultural impact years for the charts, this was the first year of the British Invasion and really gave the chart new life to what a really lackluster start in the 60s.
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Post by phieaglesfan712 on Jul 6, 2021 10:49:59 GMT -5
As time passes, I’m more impressed with what The Black Eyes Peas did in 2009, than what The Beatles in 1964, Michael Jackson in 1983, Usher in 2004, or Drake in 2018. No one is going to dominate a year the way the Peas did with just 2 songs.
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Post by mikerivera on Jul 6, 2021 18:38:15 GMT -5
Idk why you would find TBEP’s year in 2009 to be more impressive than any of those other acts. Drake and Usher spent more time at #1. The Beatles and MJ had an unheard of number of top 10 singles. Plus you could make the case that Lady Gaga had just as big a year in 2009 (certainly a more relevant one; Just Dance, Pokerface, Paparazzi and Bad Romance are ALL iconic songs that were super successful at the time and have long outlived Boom Boom Pow).
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Post by samo🦕 on Jul 11, 2021 17:14:06 GMT -5
am i a true knowledgeable poster now?
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