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Post by phieaglesfan712 on Jul 11, 2021 17:35:25 GMT -5
am i a true knowledgeable poster now? Give me your opinions about the 1987 Year End. Like does it still suck, or is it better than the original list?
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Post by samo🦕 on Jul 11, 2021 17:57:00 GMT -5
am i a true knowledgeable poster now? Give me your opinions about the 1987 Year End. Like does it still suck, or is it better than the original list? Upsetting. But I won't give up.
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Post by Private Dancer on Jul 12, 2021 3:38:48 GMT -5
Can someone do '88-'92 I'm trying to see how certain songs fared on the revised YE list
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Post by phieaglesfan712 on Jul 12, 2021 7:03:57 GMT -5
The 1988 list is going to be brutally bad. The Way You Make Me Feel and Never Gonna Give You Up in my opinion, rank as the very worst songs of the 1980s. The only saving grace is that we might get 4 Taylor Dayne songs, especially I'll Always Love You and Don't Rush Me.
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Post by Private Dancer on Jul 12, 2021 8:58:16 GMT -5
The 1988 list is going to be brutally bad. The Way You Make Me Feel and Never Gonna Give You Up in my opinion, rank as the very worst songs of the 1980s. The only saving grace is that we might get 4 Taylor Dayne songs, especially I'll Always Love You and Don't Rush Me. Actually, funny that you mention Taylor Dayne that's literally the only reason why I wanted the 1988 list and I want the 90 list to see how LWLYB does...are you a Taylor Dayne fan too???
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Post by phieaglesfan712 on Jul 12, 2021 10:13:49 GMT -5
The 1988 list is going to be brutally bad. The Way You Make Me Feel and Never Gonna Give You Up in my opinion, rank as the very worst songs of the 1980s. The only saving grace is that we might get 4 Taylor Dayne songs, especially I'll Always Love You and Don't Rush Me. Actually, funny that you mention Taylor Dayne that's literally the only reason why I wanted the 1988 list and I want the 90 list to see how LWLYB does...are you a Taylor Dayne fan too??? I like Taylor Dayne and enjoy quite a lot of her songs, but I won’t go as far as to say I’m a hardcore fan (like I would with Chicago, Air Supply, or Diana Ross).
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Post by Private Dancer on Jul 12, 2021 10:57:19 GMT -5
Actually, funny that you mention Taylor Dayne that's literally the only reason why I wanted the 1988 list and I want the 90 list to see how LWLYB does...are you a Taylor Dayne fan too??? I like Taylor Dayne and enjoy quite a lot of her songs, but I won’t go as far as to say I’m a hardcore fan (like I would with Chicago, Air Supply, or Diana Ross). Thoughts on Love Will Lead You Back, and wow its hard to find Diana Ross fans these days...I love Diana Ross but I do not like Endless Love...overplayed
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Post by phieaglesfan712 on Jul 12, 2021 15:35:54 GMT -5
I like Taylor Dayne and enjoy quite a lot of her songs, but I won’t go as far as to say I’m a hardcore fan (like I would with Chicago, Air Supply, or Diana Ross). Thoughts on Love Will Lead You Back, and wow its hard to find Diana Ross fans these days...I love Diana Ross but I do not like Endless Love...overplayed LWLYB is one of my favorite TD songs, along with I’ll Always love You and Don’t Rush Me. I’m just glad I was able to get my hands on the Diana Ross Anthology, which had her biggest hits along with some very underrated gems.
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Post by Private Dancer on Jul 12, 2021 17:12:03 GMT -5
Thoughts on Love Will Lead You Back, and wow its hard to find Diana Ross fans these days...I love Diana Ross but I do not like Endless Love...overplayed LWLYB is one of my favorite TD songs, along with I’ll Always love You and Don’t Rush Me. I’m just glad I was able to get my hands on the Diana Ross Anthology, which had her biggest hits along with some very underrated gems. Yes, Diana Ross does have under-rated gems like Mirror Mirror and Remember Me
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Post by inverse on Jul 12, 2021 18:17:26 GMT -5
The 1988 list is going to be brutally bad. The Way You Make Me Feel and Never Gonna Give You Up in my opinion, rank as the very worst songs of the 1980s. The only saving grace is that we might get 4 Taylor Dayne songs, especially I'll Always Love You and Don't Rush Me. Actually, funny that you mention Taylor Dayne that's literally the only reason why I wanted the 1988 list and I want the 90 list to see how LWLYB does...are you a Taylor Dayne fan too??? Idk if u saw but she has an entry on the 1993 list (in fact it’s song #100) it’s a pretty great cover
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Post by mikerivera on Jul 12, 2021 18:21:26 GMT -5
Can someone do '88-'92 I'm trying to see how certain songs fared on the revised YE list I’m getting to that after 1980, which is gonna be coming up next
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Post by Private Dancer on Jul 12, 2021 21:29:29 GMT -5
Actually, funny that you mention Taylor Dayne that's literally the only reason why I wanted the 1988 list and I want the 90 list to see how LWLYB does...are you a Taylor Dayne fan too??? Idk if u saw but she has an entry on the 1993 list (in fact it’s song #100) it’s a pretty great cover Before I look is it the Can't Get Enough Of Your Love song? If so I love that one and so did the original artist themselves.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2021 22:55:37 GMT -5
The 1988 list is going to be brutally bad. The Way You Make Me Feel and Never Gonna Give You Up in my opinion, rank as the very worst songs of the 1980s.
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Post by phieaglesfan712 on Jul 12, 2021 23:25:16 GMT -5
The Way You Make Me Feel was clearly not Michael Jackson's best work. I'm just glad he followed it up with Man In the Mirror. Here's how I'd rank the singles in Bad from best to worst.
1. I Just Can' Stop Lovin You 2. Man In the Mirror 3. Bad 4. Dirty Diana 5. The Way You Make Me Feel
Likewise, Together Forever was so much better than the Rick Rolled song.
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Post by Private Dancer on Jul 13, 2021 8:01:52 GMT -5
The Way You Make Me Feel was clearly not Michael Jackson's best work. I'm just glad he followed it up with Man In the Mirror. Here's how I'd rank the singles in Bad from best to worst. 1. I Just Can' Stop Lovin You 2. Man In the Mirror 3. Bad 4. Dirty Diana 5. The Way You Make Me Feel Likewise, Together Forever was so much better than the Rick Rolled song. I understand your viewpoint with the Bad album...it just doesn't feel like him nut nevertheless he pull it off
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Post by urtarreviews on Jul 13, 2021 13:26:02 GMT -5
I am about 3/4s of the way done with my 2013 list, and Swimming Pools is guaranteed to be caught between years in this system. It was just two spots away from making my 2012 list though. However for all you Kendrick fans, it looks like Bitch Don't Kill My Vibe has a shot at making the list, depending on the cutoff.
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Post by mikerivera on Jul 13, 2021 21:27:21 GMT -5
The Way You Make Me Feel was clearly not Michael Jackson's best work. I'm just glad he followed it up with Man In the Mirror. Here's how I'd rank the singles in Bad from best to worst. 1. I Just Can' Stop Lovin You 2. Man In the Mirror 3. Bad 4. Dirty Diana 5. The Way You Make Me Feel Likewise, Together Forever was so much better than the Rick Rolled song. Bro, did you just forget that Smooth Criminal was from that album? That was easily my favorite single from that album, and probably his best post-Thriller song
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Post by phieaglesfan712 on Jul 13, 2021 23:16:28 GMT -5
The Way You Make Me Feel was clearly not Michael Jackson's best work. I'm just glad he followed it up with Man In the Mirror. Here's how I'd rank the singles in Bad from best to worst. 1. I Just Can' Stop Lovin You 2. Man In the Mirror 3. Bad 4. Dirty Diana 5. The Way You Make Me Feel Likewise, Together Forever was so much better than the Rick Rolled song. Bro, did you just forget that Smooth Criminal was from that album? That was easily my favorite single from that album, and probably his best post-Thriller song Yeah, you're right. I totally forgot about Smooth Criminal being on Bad. It definitely ranks up there with I Just Can't Stop Lovin You as the best single from the album.
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Post by urtarreviews on Jul 14, 2021 1:15:57 GMT -5
I was curious what my lists would look like if I used the Crownnote point system for the Billboard chart year rather than Jan-Dec so I without much work (I just had to change the dates of some of the charts and then change them back afterward), made lists like that for 2011 and 2012. Here's the 2011 list: 1 | Rolling In The Deep | Adele | 2 | Party Rock Anthem | LMFAO, Lauren Bennett, GoonRock | 3 | E.T. | Katy Perry, Kanye West | 4 | Firework | Katy Perry | 5 | Give Me Everything | Pitbull, Ne-Yo, Afrojack, Nayer | 6 | Grenade | Bruno Mars | 7 | Fuck You | CeeLo Green | 8 | Moves Like Jagger | Maroon 5, Christina Augilera | 9 | Someone Like You | Adele | 10 | Super Bass | Nicki Minaj | 11 | Just Can't Get Enough | Black Eyed Peas | 12 | Last Friday Night (TGIF) | Katy Perry | 13 | Born This Way | Lady Gaga | 14 | S&M | Rihanna | 15 | Pumped Up Kicks | Foster The People | 16 | On The Floor | Jennifer Lopez | 17 | Fuckin' Perfect | P!nk | 18 | Raise Your Glass | P!nk | 19 | Tonight (I'm Fuckin' You) | Enrique Iglesias | 20 | Just The Way You Are | Bruno Mars | 21 | Down On Me | Jeremih, 50 Cent | 22 | Good Life | One Republic | 23 | Look At Me Now | Chris Brown, Lil Wayne, Busta Rhymes | 24 | The Lazy Song | Bruno Mars | 25 | How To Love | Lil Wayne | 26 | What's My Name? | Rihanna, Drake | 27 | The Edge Of Glory | Lady Gaga | 28 | The Show Goes On | Lupe Fiasco | 29 | Black And Yellow | Wiz Khalifa | 30 | Tonight Tonight | Hot Chelle Rae | 31 | 'Till The World Ends | Britney Spears | 32 | Lighters | Bad Meets Evil | 33 | Stereo Hearts | Gym Class Heroes, Adam Levine | 34 | If I Die Young | The Band Perry | 35 | Blow | Kesha | 36 | We R Who We R | Kesha | 37 | Just A Kiss | Lady Antebellum | 38 | Dirt Road Anthem | Jason Aldean | 39 | Hey Baby (Drop It To The Floor) | Pitbull, T-Pain | 40 | Only Girl (In The World) | Rihanna | 41 | Coming Home | Diddy - Dirty Money, Skylar Grey | 42 | The Time (Dirty Bit) | Black Eyed Peas | 43 | I'm On One | DJ Khaled, Drake, Rick Ross, Lil Wayne | 44 | We Found Love | Rihanna, Calvin Harris | 45 | You Make Me Feel | Cobra Starship, Sabi | 46 | Motivation | Kelly Rowland, Lil Wayne | 47 | I Wanna Go | Britney Spears | 48 | Crazy Girl | Eli Young Band | 49 | 6 Foot 7 Foot | Lil Wayne, Cory Gunz | 50 | Dynamite | Taio Cruz | 51 | Sexy And I Know It | LMFAO | 52 | I Need A Doctor | Dr. Dre, Eminem, Skylar Grey | 53 | Moment 4 Life | Nicki Minaj, Drake | 54 | No Hands | Waka Flocka Flame, Wale, Roscoe Dash | 55 | For The First Time | The Script | 56 | Hold It Against Me | Britney Spears | 57 | Jar Of Hearts | Christina Perri | 58 | All Of The Lights | Kanye West | 59 | Roll Up | Wiz Khalifa | 60 | Don't You Wanna Stay | Jason Aldean, Kelly Clarkson | 61 | Yeah 3x | Chris Brown | 62 | Stereo Love | Edward Maya, Vika Jigulina | 63 | Rocketeer | Far East Movement, Ryan Tedder | 64 | Honey Bee | Blake Shelton | 65 | Written In The Stars | Tinie Tempah, Eric Turner | 66 | More | Usher | 67 | What The Hell | Avril Lavigne | 68 | You And I | Lady Gaga | 69 | Barefoot Blue Jean Night | Jake Owen | 70 | Just A Dream | Nelly | 71 | Pretty Girl Rock | Keri Hilson | 72 | Without You | David Guetta, Usher | 73 | Cheers (Drink To That) | Rihanna | 74 | Knee Deep | Zac Brown Band, Jimmy Buffett | 75 | Remind Me | Brad Paiseley, Carrie Underwood | 76 | DJ Got Us Fallin' In Love | Usher, Pitbull | 77 | Who Says | Selena Gomez And The Scene | 78 | Take a Back Road | Rodney Atkins | 79 | Country Girl (Shake It For Me) | Luke Bryan | 80 | Best Thing I Never Had | Beyonce | 81 | In The Dark | DEV | 82 | Like A G6 | Far East Movement, The Cataracts, DEV | 83 | Sure Thing | Miguel | 84 | Headlines | Drake | 85 | Bottoms Up | Trey Songz, Nicki Minaj | 86 | Where Them Girls At | David Guetta, Flo Rida, Nicki Minaj | 87 | Back To December | Taylor Swift | 88 | Backseat | New Boyz, The Cataracts, DEV | 89 | She Ain't You | Chris Brown | 90 | God Gave Me You | Blake Shelton | 91 | Teenage Dream | Katy Perry | 92 | You And Tequila | Kenny Chesney, Grace Potter | 93 | Price Tag | Jessie J, B.o.B. | 94 | My Last | Big Sean, Chris Brown | 95 | Don't Wanna Go Home | Jason Derulo | 96 | She Will | Lil Wayne, Drake | 97 | Mr. Saxobeat | Alexandra Stan | 98 | Are You Gonna Kiss Me Or Not | Thompson Square | 99 | Love You Like A Love Song | Selena Gomez And The Scene | 100 | Colder Weather | Zac Brown Band |
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Post by inverse on Jul 14, 2021 18:32:39 GMT -5
Alright here's 1967! No repeats anywhere, just 100 new songs. Enjoy!
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| Lulu
| To Sir With Love
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| 1 (x5)
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| 9
| 2
| The Box Tops
| The Letter
| 481826
| 1 (x4)
| 16
| 8
| 3
| Bobbie Gentry
| Ode To Billie Joe
| 478698
| 1 (x4)
| 14
| 9
| 4
| The Doors
| Light My Fire
| 477345
| 1 (x3)
| 17
| 9
| 5
| The Turtles
| Happy Together
| 474798
| 1 (x3)
| 15
| 9
| 6
| The Young Rascals
| Groovin'
| 465952
| 1 (x4)
| 13
| 9
| 7
| The Monkees
| I'm A Believer
| 461776
| 1 (x6)
| 11
| 9
| 8
| The Association
| Windy
| 458048
| 1 (x4)
| 14
| 9
| 9
| Frank & Nancy Sinatra
| Somethin' Stupid
| 435252
| 1 (x4)
| 13
| 9
| 10
| Aretha Franklin
| Respect
| 388666
| 1 (x2)
| 12
| 7
| 11
| The Music Explosion
| Little Bit O' Soul
| 387458
| 2
| 16
| 9
| 12
| Frankie Valli
| Can't Take My Eyes Off You
| 386380
| 2
| 16
| 8
| 13
| Strawberry Alarm Clock
| Incense And Peppermints
| 376288
| 1
| 14
| 9
| 14
| The Association
| Never My Love
| 373353
| 2
| 14
| 8
| 15
| Stevie Wonder
| I Was Made To Love Her
| 359467
| 2
| 15
| 7
| 16
| Sam & Dave
| Soul Man
| 358537
| 2
| 15
| 8
| 17
| Bobby Vee
| Come Back When You Grow Up
| 356245
| 3
| 16
| 7
| 18
| The Cowsills
| The Rain, The Park & Other Things
| 355855
| 2
| 14
| 8
| 19
| The Buckinghams
| Kind Of A Drag
| 349256
| 1 (x2)
| 12
| 7
| 20
| Arthur Conley
| Sweet Soul Music
| 345520
| 2
| 15
| 7
| 21
| The Rolling Stones
| Ruby Tuesday
| 336279
| 1
| 12
| 7
| 22
| The Beatles
| All You Need Is Love
| 336179
| 1
| 11
| 7
| 23
| The Seekers
| Georgy Girl
| 325532
| 2
| 11
| 8
| 24
| Tommy James & The Shondells
| I Think We're Alone Now
| 318735
| 4
| 17
| 6
| 25
| The Supremes
| Love Is Here And Now You're Gone
| 316942
| 1
| 11
| 7
| 26
| The Supremes
| The Happening
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| 11
| 6
| 27
| The Supremes
| Reflections
| 306206
| 2
| 11
| 7
| 28
| The Monkees
| Daydream Believer
| 303639
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| 6
| 29
| The Royal Guardsmen
| Snoopy Vs. The Red Baron
| 290650
| 2
| 9
| 6
| 30
| Vikki Carr
| It Must Be Him
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| 3
| 15
| 6
| 31
| The Soul Survivors
| Expressway To Your Heart
| 287167
| 4
| 15
| 6
| 32
| Aaron Neville
| Tell It Like It Is
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| 9
| 7
| 33
| Engelbert Humperdinck
| Release Me
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| 4
| 14
| 5
| 34
| The Mamas & The Papas
| Dedicated To The One I Love
| 280562
| 2
| 10
| 6
| 35
| Jay & The Techniques
| Apples, Peaches, Pumpkin Pie
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| 17
| 5
| 36
| Gladys Knight & The Pips
| I Heard It Through The Grapevine
| 275600
| 2
| 11
| 5
| 37
| The Happenings
| I Got Rhythm
| 274815
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| 13
| 6
| 38
| The Monkees
| A Little Bit Me, A Little Bit You
| 269205
| 2
| 10
| 6
| 39
| Scott McKenzie
| San Francisco (Be Sure To Wear Flowers In Your Hair)
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| 4
| 12
| 5
| 40
| The Beatles
| Penny Lane
| 262082
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| 10
| 5
| 41
| Every Mother's Son
| Come On Down To My Boat
| 258559
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| 15
| 4
| 42
| Procol Harum
| A Whiter Shade Of Pale
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| 12
| 7
| 43
| Aretha Franklin
| Baby I Love You
| 251107
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| 11
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| 44
| Johnny Rivers
| Baby I Need Your Lovin'
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| 11
| 5
| 45
| Bobby Vinton
| Please Love Me Forever
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| 13
| 5
| 46
| Marvin Gaye & Tammi Terrell
| Your Precious Love
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| 13
| 5
| 47
| Petula Clark
| This Is My Song
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| 12
| 5
| 48
| Dionne Warwick
| I Say A Little Prayer
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| 11
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| 49
| Jefferson Airplane
| Somebody To Love
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| 15
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| 50
| The Monkees
| Pleasant Valley Sunday
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| 10
| 5
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| Buffalo Springfield
| For What It's Worth
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| 15
| 2
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| Brenton Wood
| Gimme Little Sign
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| 9
| 15
| 3
| 53
| Herman's Hermits
| There's A Kind Of Hush
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| 12
| 4
| 54
| The Turtles
| She'd Rather Be With Me
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| 11
| 4
| 55
| The Casinos
| Then You Can Tell Me Goodbye
| 223628
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| 13
| 4
| 56
| The Buckinghams
| Mercy, Mercy, Mercy
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| 12
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| 57
| The Buckinghams
| Don't You Care
| 223137
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| 14
| 3
| 58
| Five Americans
| Western Union
| 221446
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| 12
| 5
| 59
| Jackie Wilson
| (Your Love Keeps Lifting Me) Higher And Higher
| 220630
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| 12
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| 60
| Blues Magoos
| (We Ain't Got) Nothin' Yet
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| 10
| 5
| 61
| The Young Rascals
| How Can I Be Sure
| 220478
| 4
| 11
| 4
| 62
| The Four Tops
| Bernadette
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| 4
| 10
| 5
| 63
| Martha & The Vandellas
| Jimmy Mack
| 216226
| 10
| 14
| 3
| 64
| The Temptations
| You're My Everything
| 216100
| 6
| 12
| 5
| 65
| The 5th Dimension
| Up, Up And Away
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| 7
| 12
| 4
| 66
| Van Morrison
| Brown Eyed Girl
| 209536
| 10
| 16
| 1
| 67
| Ed Ames
| My Cup Runneth Over
| 208263
| 8
| 13
| 3
| 68
| The Esquires
| Get On Up
| 207550
| 11
| 15
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| The Hollies
| On A Carousel
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| 11
| 14
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| Mitch Ryder & The Detroit Wheels
| Sock It To Me-Baby!
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| 6
| 11
| 4
| 71
| Bill Cosby
| Little Ole Man (Uptight, Everything's Alright)
| 196981
| 4
| 11
| 3
| 72
| The Tremeloes
| Silence Is Golden
| 195031
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| 14
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| 73
| The Miracles
| I Second That Emotion
| 194903
| 4
| 9
| 4
| 74
| The Fantastic Johnny C
| Boogaloo Down Broadway
| 194639
| 7
| 13
| 3
| 75
| Keith
| 98.6
| 192464
| 7
| 10
| 3
| 76
| The Spencer Davis Group
| Gimme Some Lovin'
| 192316
| 7
| 12
| 3
| 77
| The Hollies
| Carrie Anne
| 191139
| 9
| 13
| 1
| 78
| James Brown
| Cold Sweat
| 189590
| 7
| 12
| 3
| 79
| Sonny & Cher
| The Beat Goes On
| 189556
| 6
| 11
| 4
| 80
| Dionne Warwick
| Alfie
| 189201
| 15
| 17
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| 81
| The Grass Roots
| Let's Live For Today
| 187431
| 8
| 12
| 3
| 82
| Peaches & Herb
| Close Your Eyes
| 184757
| 8
| 12
| 3
| 83
| The Who
| I Can See For Miles
| 184134
| 9
| 11
| 3
| 84
| Wilson Pickett
| Funky Broadway
| 183643
| 8
| 12
| 3
| 85
| Aretha Franklin
| I Never Loved A Man (The Way I Love You)
| 182833
| 9
| 11
| 2
| 86
| Paul Revere & The Raiders
| Good Thing
| 182099
| 4
| 7
| 5
| 87
| The Mamas & The Papas
| Words Of Love
| 178230
| 5
| 7
| 5
| 88
| Petula Clark
| Don't Sleep On The Subway
| 177054
| 5
| 10
| 3
| 89
| The Young Rascals
| I've Been Lonely Too Long
| 176220
| 16
| 14
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| The Hombres
| Let It Out (Let It All Hang Out)
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| 13
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| 91
| Jefferson Airplane
| White Rabbit
| 174003
| 8
| 10
| 2
| 92
| Paul Revere & The Raiders
| Him Or Me - What's It Gonna Be?
| 173140
| 5
| 9
| 3
| 93
| The Easybeats
| Friday On My Mind
| 171566
| 16
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| 94
| The Beatles
| Hello Goodbye
| 170225
| 1
| 5
| 4
| 95
| The Bar-Kays
| Soul Finger
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| Neil Diamond
| Girl, You'll Be A Woman Soon
| 168734
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| 11
| 1
| 97
| Lesley Gore
| California Nights
| 168076
| 16
| 14
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| 98
| Peter, Paul & Mary
| I Dig Rock And Roll Music
| 167959
| 9
| 11
| 2
| 99
| The Dave Clark Five
| You Got What It Takes
| 166020
| 7
| 10
| 3
| 100
| Cher
| You Better Sit Down Kids
| 164730
| 9
| 10
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Post by inverse on Jul 14, 2021 18:37:56 GMT -5
Songs that made the original and missed here #72 - Groovin (I think this had to have been a mistake, it doesn't make any sense that it was this high and it only had 138219 points) #80 - Here We Go Again #85 - Society's Child #87 - Ain't No Mountain High Enough #88 - I Take It Back #89 - Here Comes My Baby #90 - Everlasting Love #93 - I Had Too Much To Dream (Last Night) #96 - Mirage #97 - Green, Green Grass Of Home #100 - Thank The Lord For The Night Time Next closest 10
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| Aretha Franklin
| (You Make Me Feel Like) A Natural Woman
| 164349
| 102
| The Four Tops
| Standing In The Shadows Of Love
| 163435
| 103
| The Temptations
| All I Need
| 163015
| 104
| The Tremeloes
| Here Comes My Baby
| 162955
| 105
| The Four Seasons
| C'mon Marianne
| 161530
| 106
| Sandy Posey
| I Take It Back
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| Ray Charles
| Here We Go Again
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| 108
| Tommy James & The Shondells
| Mirage
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| 109
| The Mamas & The Papas
| Creeque Alley
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| 110
| The Young Rascals
| A Girl Like You
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Post by inverse on Jul 14, 2021 18:52:10 GMT -5
Another year of correcting Billboard's mistakes lol. I already mentioned Groovin but this year their annual "song we forgot to include" was Sock It To Me Baby, which no matter the point system should have easily cleared the cutoff but simply wasn't there. They also did this weird inverse point system where as far as i can tell its the exact same at the 100-1 except weeks at #1 are worth 200 instead of 100 and everything else is the same. This allowed "Daydream Believer" to make the original list with 5 weeks which meant that before Hello by Adele it held the record (it has 7 in mine because this was yet another 50 week year where the last two weeks of december didn't count for any year ends so it gets two more)
I believe this is also the only year during the Beatles' main run where the missed the year end top 10.
One annoying thing is that for as many classics as the 60's had they sure as hell haven't been landing at #1 on the year end list. We've had five years and the top songs have been passable at best and sometimes really embarrassing and the next year I'm gonna do is the ultimate example of this. 1965, where Wooly Bully was the #1 song of the year with a peak of 2. I seriously doubt that it will be #1 on my list but it'll at least probably be the first song to finish in the top 10 that wasn't a #1 hit
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Post by gikem on Jul 14, 2021 19:18:40 GMT -5
OUCH @ the original Ain't No Mountain missing and Natural Woman winding up at #101. Both would have been great additions to the YE. At least we got Hello Goodbye this time.
I'm curious as to what will replace Wooly Bully at the top of the new 1965 list. I'm guessing it's between I Can't Help Myself, Satisfaction, and Yesterday (the last of which somehow missed the original 1965 YE despite 4 weeks at #1, WTF?!).
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Post by inverse on Jul 14, 2021 20:51:58 GMT -5
OUCH @ the original Ain't No Mountain missing and Natural Woman winding up at #101. Both would have been great additions to the YE. At least we got Hello Goodbye this time. I'm curious as to what will replace Wooly Bully at the top of the new 1965 list. I'm guessing it's between I Can't Help Myself, Satisfaction, and Yesterday (the last of which somehow missed the original 1965 YE despite 4 weeks at #1, WTF?!). It's not entirely uncommon for big #1's to miss the year end if you go by Billboard's formula. "Dominique" missed the 1963 list as a 4 week #1 and "There I've Said It Again" only made the 1964 list because Billboard made counting mistakes. Part of the reason this happens is because many of the 60's chart years were 50 weeks long with the last two weeks of december not counting toward anything and so one of the reasons I'm making these is just so we have good 60's year end lists.
But yeah losing Ain't No Mountain still hurts. It is the right outcome based on its chart run which was pretty weak but the real sadness is that a song that great wasn't a big top 10 hit. If you need to feel better just look at the bottom 10 of the 1966 year end list where both "Wouldn't It Be Nice" and "Mother's Little Helper" snuck in the very bottom as a result of the recalculation.
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Post by inverse on Jul 15, 2021 2:18:59 GMT -5
The 1985 chart Rank | Song | Artist | Peak | Top 10 | Hot 100 | Points |
| 89 | Pop Life | Prince & The Revolution | #7 | 3 | 14 | 181,870 | 90 | All I Need | Jack Wagner | #2 | 4 | 11 | 181,540 | 91 | I Miss You | Klymaxx | #5 | 3 | 16 | 181,450 | 92 | You're Only Human (Second Wind) | Billy Joel | #9 | 2 | 16 | 179,540 | 93 | Sugar Walls | Sheena Easton | #9 | 3 | 15 | 176,550 | 94 | Sleeping Bag | ZZ Top | #8 | 4 | 11 | 176,200 | 95 | Get it On (Bang Like a Gong) | Power Station | #9 | 3 | 15 | 175,880 | 96 | You Are My Lady | Freddie Jackson | #12 |
| 17 | 173,610 | 97 | High on You | Survivor | #8 | 2 | 17 | 172,670 | 98 | Smuggler's Blues | Glenn Frey | #12 |
| 19 | 172,330 | 99 | Dancing in the Street | Mick Jagger & David Bowie | #7 | 3 | 14 | 171,630 | 100 | You Spin Me Round (Like a Record) | Dead or Alive | #11 |
| 18 | 160,990 |
I know it's been awhile since this post but I only just noticed this what on earth is with that jump from #99 to #100?! I thought 1964 had a big jump at the end but that is absolutely nuts especially considering theres only 3 others that big in the entire list and two of them are in the top 10! Just had to point that out because that is one of the craziest things i have seen
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Post by mikerivera on Jul 15, 2021 7:31:56 GMT -5
I was wondering when someone would point that out. Yeah, an 11k point jump from 99 to 100, and then less than 100 points between 100 and 101. Crazy little coincidence, but hey, at least the end result was getting an 80s classic on a YE and snubbing Bryan Adams
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Post by phieaglesfan712 on Jul 15, 2021 11:10:02 GMT -5
OUCH @ the original Ain't No Mountain missing and Natural Woman winding up at #101. Both would have been great additions to the YE. At least we got Hello Goodbye this time. I'm curious as to what will replace Wooly Bully at the top of the new 1965 list. I'm guessing it's between I Can't Help Myself, Satisfaction, and Yesterday (the last of which somehow missed the original 1965 YE despite 4 weeks at #1, WTF?!). It's not entirely uncommon for big #1's to miss the year end if you go by Billboard's formula. "Dominique" missed the 1963 list as a 4 week #1 and "There I've Said It Again" only made the 1964 list because Billboard made counting mistakes. Part of the reason this happens is because many of the 60's chart years were 50 weeks long with the last two weeks of december not counting toward anything and so one of the reasons I'm making these is just so we have good 60's year end lists.
But yeah losing Ain't No Mountain still hurts. It is the right outcome based on its chart run which was pretty weak but the real sadness is that a song that great wasn't a big top 10 hit. If you need to feel better just look at the bottom 10 of the 1966 year end list where both "Wouldn't It Be Nice" and "Mother's Little Helper" snuck in the very bottom as a result of the recalculation.
1967 would have looked a lot better if it was stretched to the Top 102. Anytime you can get a Four Tops song like Standing in the Shadow of Love would be a great addition to the chart. But I can’t wait to see the 1965 list. I’m pretty sure it will turn out to be better than the original list. I can’t believe so many great and memorable songs missed that YE chart, while a song as awful as Wooly Bully ended up as the YE #1.
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Post by jab625246 on Jul 15, 2021 11:54:02 GMT -5
Bro, did you just forget that Smooth Criminal was from that album? That was easily my favorite single from that album, and probably his best post-Thriller song Yeah, you're right. I totally forgot about Smooth Criminal being on Bad. It definitely ranks up there with I Just Can't Stop Lovin You as the best single from the album. There were three other singles from Bad that you haven't mentioned: "Another Part Of Me", "Leave Me Alone", and "Liberian Girl" though the latter two never charted in the USA. And yes "Smooth Criminal" is the greatest single from the album that couldn't be topped by any other single. It's another masterpiece from Michael Jackson next to "Billie Jean" and "Thriller".
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Post by Gary on Jul 15, 2021 13:49:28 GMT -5
The YE charts in the 1960s were never for a full year (Jan2 to Oct 30)
So yeah lots of anomalies in those charts so take them for what they are. A worthwhile shapshot of the year in music for that year for the readers in the 1960s
Doubt the original authors of the 1965 chart were thinking that these need to hold up to 2021 scrutiny - but I am sure they would be flattered that people still read them
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Post by inverse on Jul 15, 2021 14:17:58 GMT -5
The YE charts in the 1960s were never for a full year (Jan2 to Oct 30) So yeah lots of anomalies in those charts so take them for what they are. A worthwhile shapshot of the year in music for that year for the readers in the 1960s Doubt the original authors of the 1965 chart were thinking that these need to hold up to 2021 scrutiny - but I am sure they would be flattered that people still read them The 1966 and 1963 ones were for a full year. Otherwise songs such as "Walking The Dog" and "Good Vibrations" wouldn't have been included.
1964, 1969 & 1967 all went though the second week of December.
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