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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Feb 27, 2020 16:20:02 GMT -5
^I don't much streaming for it. It would debut mostly due to radio and digital song sales.
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Post by GP on Feb 27, 2020 16:37:39 GMT -5
The Say So is amazing damn, AM needs to get on board with this song
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Post by jenglisbe on Feb 27, 2020 16:58:53 GMT -5
2020- the year we brought disco back. Doesn't it come back every few years? Lol! Meanwhile, what happened in 1980 that there were so many long running (for the time) #1s? 8 songs had 4 or more weeks at #1, and 3 others had 3 weeks at #1. renfield75
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Post by Abbaschand on Feb 27, 2020 17:31:52 GMT -5
I can't believe this is the same girl who made MOOO.... Don't you talk crap about that beautiful song!
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Post by thegreatdivine on Feb 27, 2020 17:42:01 GMT -5
Doja Cat is coming.
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Post by annoymous1 on Feb 27, 2020 17:43:17 GMT -5
Nicki got backlash on talking about sex also it isn't excluded to Doja,Cardi,City Girls, and Meg(and I'm not even a Nicki fan btw ) it seems to be the trend with female rappers.It's all fine and dandy when male rappers brag about having sex with everybody and talk about how much money they got but the moment female rappers do the same thing people want to throw a hissy fit. Sorry for the long rant I had to get it off my chest 😔.
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Post by jebsib on Feb 27, 2020 17:44:14 GMT -5
1980 was the beginning of the cyclical doldrums. The post disco landscape destroyed radio and retail, and there was limited competition, so songs stayed at the top longer.
We have this sense that longer #1s show strength, but often it is because of cultural apathy.
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Post by nathanalbright on Feb 27, 2020 17:49:36 GMT -5
1980 was the beginning of the cyclical doldrums. The post disco landscape destroyed radio and retail, and there was limited competition, so songs stayed at the top longer. We have this sense that longer #1s show strength, but often it is because of cultural apathy. Do you think this applies to say, the contemporary musical climate as well?
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Post by jebsib on Feb 27, 2020 18:57:04 GMT -5
Yes, I think so. The consultants Guy Zapoleon and Ross on Radio have suggested that we've been in a stagnant doldrum era for three years. Due for an uptick in a year or two.
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Post by kierz7 on Feb 27, 2020 18:58:12 GMT -5
It’s not happening, at all, and she probably will barely debut in the top five, however...
What would it take for Gaga to debut at number one sales and streams wise (excluding airplay) and surpass The Box’?
+100K sales & 25-40M streams (w/YouTube) or more?
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Post by m450n on Feb 27, 2020 19:17:17 GMT -5
Say So isn't bad but my problems with it haven't gone away. In that, if you gave this to other acts like DRAM or H.E.R. or any other R&B who've dabbled in disco, nothing would change. Her earliest song - So High - had a similar problem and I was hoping that she had grown out of that style since then because she has shown more personality than just "really sexy thicc girl". For one, Say So is easily one of the top 3 best songs on that album. I was so happy to see it go viral on TikTok. And second, you act like she was planning on that song going viral. I think she was gonna make Like That the last single but saw Say So was going viral and delivered. Listen to Shine, Rules, Addiction... all great songs on the album that aren't just about her being thicc.
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Post by jessutation on Feb 27, 2020 19:35:25 GMT -5
I don’t know about y’all, but I find “Say So” easily repetitive — like, there’s so many other good songs on Doja’s album that deserves some kinda spotlight over it. The song just isn’t my cup of tea, never has been...never will be (“Bottom B*tch” easily one of my favorite Doja Cat songs).
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2020 19:36:37 GMT -5
The Go Stupid meme on TikTok is so fire hahaha it makes the song 10 times better.
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Post by spicymapping on Feb 27, 2020 20:08:09 GMT -5
Shimmy by japanese animation is doing impressively well - a million views in a day. I'd be hyped if we made this a hit, he deserves another one.
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Post by korbel16 on Feb 27, 2020 20:22:00 GMT -5
I like how nobody at all is talking about that god awful song with sza and Jt (good video tho)
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Post by feoba on Feb 27, 2020 21:09:28 GMT -5
I don’t know about y’all, but I find “Say So” easily repetitive — like, there’s so many other good songs on Doja’s album that deserves some kinda spotlight over it. The song just isn’t my cup of tea, never has been...never will be (“Bottom B*tch” easily one of my favorite Doja Cat songs). I’m so glad Say so is getting all this success because Doja deserves it, but I agree. Rules and Bottom B*tch are fantastic. Hope she only continues to more success from here on out.
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Post by m450n on Feb 27, 2020 21:49:30 GMT -5
I don’t know about y’all, but I find “Say So” easily repetitive — like, there’s so many other good songs on Doja’s album that deserves some kinda spotlight over it. The song just isn’t my cup of tea, never has been...never will be (“Bottom B*tch” easily one of my favorite Doja Cat songs). hmmm, idk i think say so, addiction, and like that are the best songs on the album. not a big fan of bottom b*tch, but i do like rules its just not a easy listen like the other 3
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Feb 27, 2020 22:23:56 GMT -5
Nicki got backlash on talking about sex also it isn't excluded to Doja,Cardi,City Girls, and Meg(and I'm not even a Nicki fan btw ) it seems to be the trend with female rappers.It's all fine and dandy when male rappers brag about having sex with everybody and talk about how much money they got but the moment female rappers do the same thing people want to throw a hissy fit. Sorry for the long rant I had to get it off my chest 😔. My problem with Doja or other female rappers aren't that they're just talking about sex. Hell, when it comes to straightforward bragging tracks about money, sex and being rich, I've gotten more enjoyment from people like Cardi, Doja, Rico Nasty, even Kash Doll. My problem is that she was doing interesting and funny and clever on her joke songs and on Amala and it seems like on a major label, a lot of her lyricism lost some of her punch and flair. I've ragged on her recent album a number of times but I actually think that 'Rules' and even 'Bottom Bitch' shows some of that unique personality I liked and was excited about. Yes she has a unique voice, but if major label is just going to have her do kinda basic disco sex songs that every one else has been doing, it's seems like a waste.
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Post by Crimsonio on Feb 27, 2020 22:42:33 GMT -5
So disco is coming back with Doja, Dua, SZA, and Gaga? Maybe music is saved!
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Post by annoymous1 on Feb 27, 2020 23:01:56 GMT -5
Nicki got backlash on talking about sex also it isn't excluded to Doja,Cardi,City Girls, and Meg(and I'm not even a Nicki fan btw ) it seems to be the trend with female rappers.It's all fine and dandy when male rappers brag about having sex with everybody and talk about how much money they got but the moment female rappers do the same thing people want to throw a hissy fit. Sorry for the long rant I had to get it off my chest 😔. My problem with Doja or other female rappers aren't that they're just talking about sex. Hell, when it comes to straightforward bragging tracks about money, sex and being rich, I've gotten more enjoyment from people like Cardi, Doja, Rico Nasty, even Kash Doll. My problem is that she was doing interesting and funny and clever on her joke songs and on Amala and it seems like on a major label, a lot of her lyricism lost some of her punch and flair. I've ragged on her recent album a number of times but I actually think that 'Rules' and even 'Bottom Bitch' shows some of that unique personality I liked and was excited about. Yes she has a unique voice, but if major label is just going to have her do kinda basic disco sex songs that every one else has been doing, it's seems like a waste. I get where you're coming from imo say so is okay it's nothing spectacular but it works for what it is trying to be.I just am not all for the double standards and went on a mini rant to like I said earlier get it off my chest.
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Post by m450n on Feb 28, 2020 0:01:09 GMT -5
Genuinely confused how Say So hasn't been the biggest hit chart-wise or stream-wise since it is nearly double the amount of views over Old Town Road, and way bigger than Truth Hurts on the platform. I still don't get how Roxanne (before it got big on radio) or Falling are above it on both streaming and charts.
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Feb 28, 2020 0:13:55 GMT -5
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Post by renfield75 on Feb 28, 2020 1:02:15 GMT -5
2020- the year we brought disco back. Doesn't it come back every few years? Lol! Meanwhile, what happened in 1980 that there were so many long running (for the time) #1s? 8 songs had 4 or more weeks at #1, and 3 others had 3 weeks at #1. renfield75As others said, I think music slowed down after the disco boom and so did the charts. Looking over the years, faster uptempo music tends to correspond with faster chart turnover; the number of number ones spiked in the late 70s (disco), late 80s (teen dance pop), and early 10s (turbo pop). When AC took over in the very early 80s and 90s, the charts slowed down. When mid-tempo hip-hop took over in the mid 2000s and now, the charts again slowed down. It's not a total parallel, but in general it's true.
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Post by KeepDeanWeird on Feb 28, 2020 1:11:22 GMT -5
The fact that JB have 3 songs on Top 30 radio...is revealing.
I'm all for fun, more energetic music, especially when it omits a tacked-on, non-organic rap break. Let's shake up these charts and flush out depressing, dreary, monotonous songs.
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Feb 28, 2020 9:19:02 GMT -5
Spotify 02/27/20
1(=) Roddy Ricch - The Box 2,158,400 (-20,603) 2(=) The Weeknd - Blinding Lights 1,231,348 (-11,049) 3(+1) Justin Bieber - Intentions 1,195,486 (-5,038) 4(-1) Future - Life is Good 1,187,635 (-16,010) 5(=) Lil Mosey - Blueberry Faygo 1,163,058 (+6,521) 6(=) The Weeknd - After Hours 1,090,191 (-61,075) 7(=) Arizona Zervas - ROXANNE 1,013,126 (+13,540) 8(+3) Doja Cat - Say So 982,218 (+118,116) 9(-1) Roddy Ricch - High Fashion 962,604 (-10,901) 10(-1) Dua Lipa - Don't Start Now 930,111 (-9,006)
13(=) Jack Harlow - WHATS POPPIN 852,581 (+17,913) 14(=) Eminem - Godzilla 812,541 (+5,453) 21(+1) Ashe - Moral of the Story 701,392 (+18,741) 22(+4) Polo G - Go Stupid 696,763 (+47,053) 24(-1) Surfaces - Sunday Best 694,246 (+20,626) 37(=) powfu - death bed 537,379 (-5,023) 40(=) Future - Life is Good Remix 490,200 (-6,325)
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Feb 28, 2020 9:57:57 GMT -5
kworb's Billboard Radio Songs Estimates 2020/02/28
1(=) Post Malone - Circles 141.25(-0.56) 2(=) Maroon 5 - Memories 121.10(-1.05) 3(=) Dua Lipa - Don't Start Now 118.47(+1.33) 4(=) The Weeknd - Heartless 109.26(-0.04) + 5(=) Arizona Zervas - ROXANNE 107.16(+0.71) 6(=) Lewis Capaldi - Someone You Loved 103.71(-1.89) 7(+1) Roddy Ricch - The Box 86.83(+0.55) 8(-1) Selena Gomez - Lose You to Love Me 86.66(-1.22) 9(=) blackbear - hot girl bummer 85.30(+1.39) 10(=) Dan + Shay & Justin Bieber - 10,000 Hours 80.51(-0.99)
12(=) Billie Eilish - everything i wanted 76.17(+1.55)
14(=) Harry Styles - Adore You 72.47(+1.29)
17(=) The Weeknd - Blinding Lights 61.21(+2.17)
18(+1) Future - Life Is Good (feat. Drake) 60.03(+2.41) + 21(+3) Jimmie Allen - Make Me Want To 55.47(+0.83)
29(+2) Camila Cabello - My Oh My (feat. DaBaby) 50.23(+1.47)
40(+2) Garth Brooks & Blake Shelton - Dive Bar 39.01(+1.33)
42(+2) Justin Bieber - Intentions (feat. Quavo) 38.44(+1.37)
87(+5) Doja Cat - Say So 20.64(+1.15) -(-) SZA & Justin Timberlake - The Other Side 15.64(+2.85)
-(-) Kenny Chesney - Here and Now 15.26(+1.67)
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Post by Soundcl🕤ck on Feb 28, 2020 10:16:46 GMT -5
OMG, slay Weeknd!
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Post by lazer on Feb 28, 2020 10:19:14 GMT -5
It warms my heart to see those 3 godawful ballads meeting their demise and actual newer pop music on the rise. What a delicious victory. Circles also needs to head out too, but I still like it though.
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Feb 28, 2020 10:25:12 GMT -5
Damn, Don't Start Now could overtake Memories by Sunday if it keeps dropping like that.
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Feb 28, 2020 10:28:32 GMT -5
^Yeah. I'm glad we didn't have a repeat of Girls Like You.
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