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Post by gregtwinner on Mar 2, 2020 15:09:27 GMT -5
I don't disagree with some of the POVs. But BTS is single-handledly bringing KPOP and Asian-pop to an extent, in the global forefront. I say that's cultural impact, no matter how some view them and their type of music. They have an impact but not with any particular song
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Post by spicymapping on Mar 2, 2020 15:15:23 GMT -5
how the everloving f**k does on have 85000 sales. that puts it basically tied with life is good.
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Post by lurker2 on Mar 2, 2020 15:15:58 GMT -5
how the everloving f**k does on have 85000 sales God works hard, ARMY works harder.
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Post by 𝕡𝕙𝕖𝕖𝕓𝕤 on Mar 2, 2020 15:17:03 GMT -5
Just putting it out there that I’ve watched these fans self-organize for a week to buy albums and singles. They’ve also been actively trying to become better streamers, which globally they have for the whole album. If they land top 5 for one week only, that was their goal and I respect it. Whether people outside of their fans know these Korean songs or not is a non-issue, especially when the band doesn’t get the same mainstream radio treatment as English artist. Also, they sing in Korean. So, good for them this week. Like it or not, it’s a big deal to see fans do this. I agree. Yeah, the songs lack staying power and may not remain in the public conscience, but the strength of the ARMYs compared to other fanbases is unrivaled. It’s pretty amazing. I still believe that “Fake Love” should’ve been their breakout hit. It goes off to this day
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Post by eidde on Mar 2, 2020 15:18:55 GMT -5
how do y'all know it has 85k sales
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Post by spicymapping on Mar 2, 2020 15:18:58 GMT -5
Seriously, if this debuts 2 or 3 that should be enough of a wake up call to fix just how awful the sales to streams ratio is. Saying On is the 2nd biggest song in america is by any reasonable definition wildly incorrect.
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Post by spicymapping on Mar 2, 2020 15:19:57 GMT -5
how do y'all know it has 85k sales
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Post by kcdawg13 on Mar 2, 2020 15:21:32 GMT -5
What a curve ball
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Post by jtd Thee Stallion on Mar 2, 2020 15:22:04 GMT -5
I hope it’s a mistake, but I doubt it
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Post by spicymapping on Mar 2, 2020 15:24:58 GMT -5
nevermind i can't do math and used 3 as the sales divisor so it's not close to LIG. it's probably around 8 which is surprising but reasonable
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Post by Choco on Mar 2, 2020 15:28:46 GMT -5
Kinda sad that BTS are gonna prevent Ms. Dula from a new career peak this week, but well done.
And there's always next week for Dua.
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Post by annoymous1 on Mar 2, 2020 15:35:07 GMT -5
Hmmm...maybe BTS didn't debut in the top 10 if they did Chartdata would've been all over that to get those engagements up.
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Post by korbel16 on Mar 2, 2020 15:36:29 GMT -5
So where’s the chart
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Post by fhas on Mar 2, 2020 15:36:29 GMT -5
Seriously, if this debuts 2 or 3 that should be enough of a wake up call to fix just how awful the sales to streams ratio is. Saying On is the 2nd biggest song in america is by any reasonable definition wildly incorrect. I agree and I don't like how they have multiple tiers for streaming but pretend that every type of digital sale ($1.29, $0.69, bundle...) is the same thing.
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Post by Naos on Mar 2, 2020 15:37:18 GMT -5
I don't disagree with some of the POVs. But BTS is single-handledly bringing KPOP and Asian-pop to an extent, in the global forefront. I say that's cultural impact, no matter how some view them and their type of music. I doubt BTS is helping Japanese and Chinese music any. And while they've had some impact on K-pop's presence, it could easily be something that disappears, especially considering some of the members will be going into the military soon.
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Post by sirskimask on Mar 2, 2020 15:38:27 GMT -5
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Post by lazer on Mar 2, 2020 15:39:53 GMT -5
That BTS song really delayed the charts huh. I wouldn’t be surprised if Billboard places the song in the Top 3 just to make the Stans all excited.
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Post by feoba on Mar 2, 2020 15:40:02 GMT -5
I’d be fine with a top 3/top 10 debut for “On” if Sia was credited but I assume she’s not 😴😴
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Post by annoymous1 on Mar 2, 2020 15:41:50 GMT -5
The Box is #1 for sure though imagine if ON debuted at #1.
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Post by shayonce on Mar 2, 2020 15:45:02 GMT -5
people overlooked their Vinyl single releases. considering their crazy fans.. 50k from that sounds reasonable. www.mots7inch.us/this tho.. "The 7" is a pre-order and will be dispatched in line with the release date on May 22, 2020."
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Post by Enigma. on Mar 2, 2020 15:46:40 GMT -5
I love "ON" so great that it goes top ten!
Also, BTS are perhaps the biggest group on planet right now so they ARE culturally relevant.
I'd say they are culturally more relevant than Jonas Brothers who spend ages on charts thanks to neverending airplay.
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Mar 2, 2020 15:47:51 GMT -5
That BTS song really delayed the charts huh. I wouldn’t be surprised if Billboard places the song in the Top 3 just to make the Stans all excited. Plus that way the can post 4 more Chart Beat articles about them this week.
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Post by Naos on Mar 2, 2020 15:48:39 GMT -5
I’d be fine with a top 3/top 10 debut for “On” if Sia was credited but I assume she’s not 😴😴 She wasn't credited on Japan's or the UK's charts, so it's possible she's not in the US either.
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Post by Henry Suárez on Mar 2, 2020 15:53:44 GMT -5
Yeah where is it? maybe the delay is because of BTS?
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Post by HolidayGuy on Mar 2, 2020 15:58:47 GMT -5
Are we sure the Digital Songs chart doesn't already include sales from physical copies that included a download? The vinyls, for instance, won't ship for weeks, so those wouldn't count for this week's chart.
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Post by shayonce on Mar 2, 2020 16:04:28 GMT -5
Are we sure the Digital Songs chart doesn't already include sales from physical copies that induced a download? The vinyls, for instance, won't ship for weeks, so those wouldn't count for this week's chart. it's "+MP3" bundle, so it is counted as digital sales right away with each bundle sale. this is common tactic everyone do with their physical single recently.
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Post by moonlite on Mar 2, 2020 16:07:47 GMT -5
I love "ON" so great that it goes top ten! Also, BTS are perhaps the biggest group on planet right now so they ARE culturally relevant. I'd say they are culturally more relevant than Jonas Brothers who spend ages on charts thanks to neverending airplay. They may be culturally relevant internationally, but not in the US. They get little to no streams and plummet on every chart after week 1. They have a large and passionate fanbase, but nobody cares about them outside of that. Thats not culturally relevant.
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Post by Mathgeek on Mar 2, 2020 16:17:59 GMT -5
Love Yourself Answer spent over a year on the BB200 and Persona has been on that chart consistently too. They are album artists here in the USA playing to sold out stadiums. They won’t have singles here because they are kind of refusing to do the one thing that radio wants...more English instead of Korean.
As for streams, their fans don’t stream all day but they do stream.
You don’t have to like them or enjoy their music but obviously a lot of people do to the tune of their shows selling out within minutes and hours.
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Post by iHype. on Mar 2, 2020 16:24:16 GMT -5
BTS Sets New Career Best on Hot 100 as 'On' Blasts in at No. 4; Roddy Ricch's 'The Box' Rules For Eighth Weekwww.billboard.com/articles/business/chart-beat/9326707/roddy-ricch-the-box-number-one-eighth-weekRoddy Ricch's "The Box" posts an eighth week at No. 1 on the Billboard Hot 100. "The Box," released on Bird Vision/Atlantic Records, posts a ninth week at No. 1 on the Streaming Songs chart, despite an 8% slide to 48.2 million U.S. streams in the week ending Feb. 27, according to Nielsen Music/MRC Data. It pushes 10-8 on Radio Songs, gaining by 6% to 63.1 million all-format airplay audience impressions in the week ending March 1, while dropping 7-14 on Digital Song Sales, down 10% to 10,000 sold in the week ending Feb. 27. Future's "Life Is Good," featuring Drake, spends its seventh consecutive week at No. 2 on the Hot 100, encompassing its entire run on the chart so far. It also holds at No. 2 on Streaming Songs (40.6 million, down 3%), while surging 25-17 on Radio Songs (43.9 million, up 11%). "Good" is first song ever to log its first seven weeks on the Hot 100 at No. 2 (after none previously began with more than four weeks at the rank). While the song could still, of course, ascend to No. 1, as of now it is one of 19 entries in the Hot 100's history to spend as many as seven weeks peaking at No. 2. It's the first to do so since DJ Khaled's "Wild Thoughts," featuring Rihanna and Bryson Tiller, logged seven frames at its No. 2 high in July-September 2017. (Missy "Misdemeanor" Elliott's "Work It" and Foreigner's "Waiting for a Girl Like You" share the mark for the most weeks peaking at No. 2: 10 each, in 2002-03 and 1981-82, respectively.) Post Malone's "Circles" stays at No. 3 on the Hot 100, after three nonconsecutive weeks at No. 1, as it notches a 10th week at No. 1 on Radio Songs (101.3 million, down 3%). It's the first song to reach double-digits weeks atop the airplay survey since Khalid's "Talk," which reigned for 11 weeks beginning last June. BTS achieves its third and highest-peaking Hot 100 top 10, and the highest-charting song ever by a K-pop group (and first such top five hit), as "On" roars onto the chart at No. 4. The single is from Map of the Soul: 7, which bows as BTS' fourth No. 1 on the Billboard 200, earning 422,000 equivalent album units, marking the biggest week for an album so far in 2020. "On" previously reached the Hot 100's top 10 with "Boy With Luv" (featuring Halsey), which debuted and peaked at No. 8 on the chart dated April 27, 2019, and "Fake Love," which launched at No. 10 on June 2, 2018. Now with three Hot 100 top 10s, BTS boasts the most of any K-pop act, besting rapper PSY, who has tallied two (and the only prior such top five titles): "Gangnam Style" (No. 2, 2012) and "Gentleman" (No. 5, 2013). Meanwhile, "On" sets the record for the highest-debuting Hot 100 entry for a K-pop song, four ranks better than the arrival of "Boy With Luv." "On" charges onto Digital Song Sales at No. 1, becoming BTS' third leader, after "Idol," featuring Niki Minaj (Sept. 8, 2018), and "Fake Love" (June 2, 2018). "On" opens with 86,000 downloads sold, marking BTS' best sales week for a song and the strongest for any title since Taylor Swift's "Me!," featuring Brendon Urie, bounded in with 193,000 on the chart dated May 11, 2019. "On" sports the highest sales frame for a song by a group since Jonas Brothers' "Sucker" started with 88,000 (March 16, 2019). On Streaming Songs, "On" debuts at No. 12 with 18.3 million U.S. streams. Meanwhile, the song's official video premiered Friday, Feb. 28, and its arrival will bolster the track's performances on next week's, March 14-dated, charts. Dua Lipa's "Don't Start Now" holds at its No. 5 Hot 100 high; Arizona Zervas' "Roxanne" remains at No. 6, after reaching No. 4; and Tones and I's "Dance Monkey" dips from its No. 4 peak to No. 7.The Weeknd's "Blinding Lights" lifts from No. 10 to a new No. 8 high on the Hot 100. Following the Feb. 18 announcement that his new album, After Hours, is due March 20, the song soars by 10% to 21.4 million U.S. streams. Meanwhile, the set's title track flies 77-20 on the Hot 100, drawing 20.4 million clicks in the first full week of tracking after its release, also on Feb. 18.Rounding out the Hot 100's top 10, Maroon 5's "Memories" falls 7-9, after hitting No. 2, and Lewis Capaldi's "Someone You Loved" descends 8-10, after it spent three weeks at No. 1.
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Post by violentdreams on Mar 2, 2020 16:25:52 GMT -5
What sales numbers were y'all using for On? This has to be the biggest upset in a very long time.
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