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Post by kimberly on May 16, 2020 20:40:01 GMT -5
fans are making their own snippets for promo lmao
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Post by Envoirment on May 16, 2020 22:24:42 GMT -5
Why is this dropping only one week before the album? By doing this she's basically putting all her eggs in the basket for "Rain on Me" and it there will be no further follow up hits since the album is getting unveiled so quickly. My god, who manages Gaga these days? Horrible choices. I think it's a good thing - the release of the album should mean it gets a big boost in its second week streaming-wise. It may even climb from its Hot 100 debut as opposed to a high debut and falling like "Stupid Love". The song itself sounds really good from what I've heard - so it'll hopefully smash hard and help keep the album steady during its chart run.
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Post by Juan Carlos on May 16, 2020 22:48:04 GMT -5
Produced by BURNS and BloodPop®, with additional production by Tchami.
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Post by Dylan :) on May 17, 2020 0:51:39 GMT -5
Burns has produced: Doing It - Charli XCX feat. Rita Ora Make Me - Britney Spears feat. G-Eazy Tchami has produced: Sexxx Dreams - Lady Gaga Do What U Want - Lady Gaga Applause - Lady Gaga Turn Down For What - DJ Snake and Lil Jon Get Low - Dillon Francis and DJ Snake You Know You Like It - DJ Snake and Aluna George Stupid Love - Lady Gaga Bloodpop has produced: Sorry - Justin Bieber Perfect Illusion - Lady Gaga Everything on the standard edition of the Joanne album Friends - Bloodpop with Justin Bieber Capital Letters - Bloodpop with Hailee Steinfeld Stupid Love - Lady Gaga
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Post by Normi on May 17, 2020 3:33:20 GMT -5
That snippet reminds a hell ton of She Wolf
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Post by breathingrande on May 17, 2020 3:40:58 GMT -5
That’s because it’ slowed down and the key was lowered. The actual song is faster.
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Post by GP on May 17, 2020 6:16:03 GMT -5
so we're getting some ARTPOP producers. Interesting
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Post by breathingrande on May 17, 2020 6:22:25 GMT -5
The difference is that they may have produced the song, but apparently the main writing/melody was done by Gaga , Max , Rami & Ariana. I’m sorry about bloodpop but the last good song he produced was justin bieber’s “sorry”. I still have nightmares about “perfect ilusion”
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Post by GP on May 17, 2020 6:23:42 GMT -5
The difference is that they may have produced the song, but apparently the main writing/melody was done by Gaga , Max , Rami & Ariana. I’m sorry about bloodpop but the last good song he produced was justin bieber’s “sorry”. I still have nightmares about “perfect ilusion” I lowkey loved PI, I found it so addicitive but it was in no way or form lead single material. But then again, nothing on Joanne was.
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Post by spiritboy on May 17, 2020 7:06:54 GMT -5
Why is this dropping only one week before the album? By doing this she's basically putting all her eggs in the basket for "Rain on Me" and it there will be no further follow up hits since the album is getting unveiled so quickly. My god, who manages Gaga these days? Horrible choices. Whoever manages Gaga did a brilliant job, taking over Artpop mess and making her relevant and respectable again. Look how far she came since Artpop, acclaimed award show performances, Cheek To Cheek album, highly praised Superbowl performance, huge success of ASIB movie and soundtrack and a bunch of Grammy Awards and an Oscar. I think they are doing their best considering the situation.
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Post by Enigma. on May 17, 2020 8:39:47 GMT -5
That "whoever" is Bobby Campbell who was her assistant manager in 2011 and became proper manager in 2014. They have known each other since 2008 and are very good friends. If you've seen the Five Foot Two, you know how natural their relationship is. /
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Post by deepston on May 17, 2020 8:55:11 GMT -5
That "whoever" is Bobby Campbell who was her assistant manager in 2011 and became "proper" manager in 2014. He kinda needs to be fired then.
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Post by Elusive Chanteuse on May 17, 2020 9:18:51 GMT -5
That "whoever" is Bobby Campbell who was her assistant manager in 2011 and became "proper" manager in 2014. He kinda needs to be fired then. While I agree that this era is mishandled badly, I don’t think he should be fired. After all, he was the one who rehabilitated Gaga’s image after ARTPOP. Honestly, if it wasn’t for him making smart choices, I don’t think Gaga would’ve been able to sustain her stardom like she has. She was really on the brink of flopping/disappearing. Because of that, I’m willing to give him a chance and time to turn things around with this era, or least show effort to do things around the pandemic.
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Post by collegedropout on May 17, 2020 10:24:33 GMT -5
Management wise, her only mishap IMO was Joanne since 2014. Nobody was here for that sound/direction. Having said that, it was still a pretty successful album for her. But that was the time to return to pop music and instead she went further away.
This era has been messy but you can blame the pandemic as I believe she had a fully thought out promotional campaign planned. Stupid Love was a bad single choice though.
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on May 17, 2020 11:18:38 GMT -5
The only thing I didn't really like about the Joanne era was the faux-country image Gaga tried to create in the beginning. When she was doing those dive bar shows and playing guitar but you knew she wasn't actually playing guitar, I think with a genre like country and folk, trying to appear authentic didn't really work. I still enjoy the album though but I think there were some missteps in it beyond the first single choice.
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Post by Enigma. on May 17, 2020 12:07:14 GMT -5
"bad" first singles is what she does best lol
Which only highlights how strong her albums usually are.
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Post by GP on May 17, 2020 12:58:43 GMT -5
"bad" first singles is what she does best lol Which only highlights how strong her albums usually are. Sadly true, her leads almost never do well
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on May 17, 2020 13:00:14 GMT -5
That flop born this way baskin!
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Post by Eloqueen™ on May 17, 2020 13:08:28 GMT -5
"bad" first singles is what she does best lol her leads almost never do well This is sarcasm, right? lol
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Post by Enigma. on May 17, 2020 13:29:15 GMT -5
I love all her singles!
But it's an observation that some people hold so high standards for her first singles that they have always been disappointed since Born This Way. Hence the word bad in quotation marks.
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Post by GP on May 17, 2020 13:34:27 GMT -5
This is sarcasm, right? lol Yes and no
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Post by collin on May 17, 2020 13:42:29 GMT -5
Her leads haven’t been strong since the 00s. Born This Way was ‘strong’ but there were better singles, and the album cuts were some of her best to date. I think this album will mirror that circumstance. I do feel like SL was a decent single choice, and that she probably won’t have many better options on the album, but I see why some saw it as a weak choice.
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Post by collin on May 17, 2020 13:43:51 GMT -5
The only thing I didn't really like about the Joanne era was the faux-country image Gaga tried to create in the beginning. When she was doing those dive bar shows and playing guitar but you knew she wasn't actually playing guitar, I think with a genre like country and folk, trying to appear authentic didn't really work. I still enjoy the album though but I think there were some missteps in it beyond the first single choice. It may not have *worked* super well but I think it was still a fun era and image change-up. Those singles were messed up, too. A-Yo should’ve been the lead, easily.
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Post by Enigma. on May 17, 2020 13:49:53 GMT -5
The only thing I didn't really like about the Joanne era was the faux-country image Gaga tried to create in the beginning. When she was doing those dive bar shows and playing guitar but you knew she wasn't actually playing guitar, I think with a genre like country and folk, trying to appear authentic didn't really work. I totally agree with this btw! For a second (or a month to be exact) in the beginning of the era she overdid the whole "authentic folk rock" thing but once Million Reasons (VS performance, THIS stunning piece of performance art, and Super Bowl) happened, it was all a distant memory.
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Post by Dylan :) on May 17, 2020 14:21:13 GMT -5
The difference is that they may have produced the song, but apparently the main writing/melody was done by Gaga , Max , Rami & Ariana. I’m sorry about bloodpop but the last good song he produced was justin bieber’s “sorry”. I still have nightmares about “perfect ilusion” Capital Letters is easily his best. Friends is good too
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Post by degen on May 17, 2020 19:37:29 GMT -5
There’s so many things we can say about the unpredictable direction Gaga’s career went in the last 5 years. I do feel a lot of time was wasted. Joanne, while technically successful, failed to yield memorable hits which further pushed her down the pop girl hierarchy.
I don’t think Gaga is that good of a songwriter. She had it when she penned her first 3 albums, but it seems she can’t stray too far from the concept that she created during TF/TFM without flatlining. Outside of that universe, she flatlines in expanding her songwriting creativity. I will say she has a good ear for karaoke friendly jams like “The Edge of Glory” and “Shallow” which is a good skill. But that’s where the line is drawn.
What’s even worse, her artistic vision is incoherent, confusing and sloppy. “ArtPop” was a perfect representation of how incoherent she can be.
I wish she would let a producer take control of the wheel. Something like “Future Nostolgia” by Dua Lipa is the product I expect from Gaga, but instead it looks like we are getting “Born This Way” and “Art Pop” rehashes. She needs people on her team who know how to tell her the truth.
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on May 17, 2020 20:56:23 GMT -5
I think this album could be that for her, depending on how focused it ends up being. My fear is that the producers wash over who she is in favour of something more “accessible” and pop friendly. I’d rather sloppy Gaga than made-for-radio Gaga. Despite her pop flops, she’s still one of the most interesting artists out there.
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Post by collegedropout on May 17, 2020 21:02:38 GMT -5
There’s so many things we can say about the unpredictable direction Gaga’s career went in the last 5 years. I do feel a lot of time was wasted. Joanne, while technically successful, failed to yield memorable hits which further pushed her down the pop girl hierarchy. I don’t think Gaga is that good of a songwriter. She had it when she penned her first 3 albums, but it seems she can’t stray too far from the concept that she created during TF/TFM without flatlining. Outside of that universe, she flatlines in expanding her songwriting creativity. I will say she has a good ear for karaoke friendly jams like “The Edge of Glory” and “Shallow” which is a good skill. But that’s where the line is drawn. What’s even worse, her artistic vision is incoherent, confusing and sloppy. “ArtPop” was a perfect representation of how incoherent she can be. I wish she would let a producer take control of the wheel. Something like “Future Nostolgia” by Dua Lipa is the product I expect from Gaga, but instead it looks like we are getting “Born This Way” and “Art Pop” rehashes. She needs people on her team who know how to tell her the truth. I agree with everything except the Dua Lipa part. Future Nostalgia is way too safe, basic and mediocre. It's cute for a debut or sophomore album though.
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Post by collin on May 17, 2020 21:29:19 GMT -5
There’s so many things we can say about the unpredictable direction Gaga’s career went in the last 5 years. I do feel a lot of time was wasted. Joanne, while technically successful, failed to yield memorable hits which further pushed her down the pop girl hierarchy. I don’t think Gaga is that good of a songwriter. She had it when she penned her first 3 albums, but it seems she can’t stray too far from the concept that she created during TF/TFM without flatlining. Outside of that universe, she flatlines in expanding her songwriting creativity. I will say she has a good ear for karaoke friendly jams like “The Edge of Glory” and “Shallow” which is a good skill. But that’s where the line is drawn. What’s even worse, her artistic vision is incoherent, confusing and sloppy. “ArtPop” was a perfect representation of how incoherent she can be. I wish she would let a producer take control of the wheel. Something like “Future Nostolgia” by Dua Lipa is the product I expect from Gaga, but instead it looks like we are getting “Born This Way” and “Art Pop” rehashes. She needs people on her team who know how to tell her the truth. I agree with everything except the Dua Lipa part. Future Nostalgia is way too safe, basic and mediocre. It's cute for a debut or sophomore album though. I don’t really agree. It’s a fresh and original album with an airtight concept — one could argue it’s a stronger LP than any of Gaga’s full lengths.
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Post by Crimsonio on May 17, 2020 21:33:53 GMT -5
I agree with everything except the Dua Lipa part. Future Nostalgia is way too safe, basic and mediocre. It's cute for a debut or sophomore album though. I don’t really agree. It’s a fresh and original album with an airtight concept — one could argue it’s a stronger LP than any of Gaga’s full lengths.This is completely false, as much as I liked Future Nostalgia, it's aged on me fast and the last two tracks completely disrupt the album.
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