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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2020 21:32:47 GMT -5
Yeah BB, I luh you but that does seem fairly sus Whatcha plan on doing about that? Might consider switching over my vote to ya why not just do it now? Or does Lord still seem more sus to you? Vote: HamedM1I mean it would be nice to hear what someone has to say Im gonna go with a hunch Vote: BB
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Post by rainie on Mar 18, 2020 21:43:40 GMT -5
BB is acting sus, yes, but i genuinely think the dude just doesn't have much experience. meanwhile, i'm much more worried about the person who has said that this isn't their first rodeo, and yet has changed their vote twice, conveniently right when a critical mass of people begun to target said person...
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Post by Albie on Mar 18, 2020 21:46:00 GMT -5
So, just a word of advice for the newbies. If people ask questions of the group (and of you directly, of course), you should always try to answer them. It's a really good way to get information going in this game. Even if you don't think you have much of an answer to give, it'll help give everyone something to look at regardless. The more we put out there, the more there will be to analyze moving forward. Also, if someone puts questions out there for the group and you don't answer, the rest of us are gonna be side-eyeing you. I say this mostly because Max has put questions out there to try and get things going and we should all try to answer that. A few others have asked things and though its not as blatantly asked of the group, but the more you can partake and offer, the better. That said, snarks I'm def not asking for a dissertation lol. But offering up the bit of insight you just did, for example, is great. I know my vote for you was RVS as hell. I assume Max's too since he was the first and the game had just started. I do question where Lord came from with a vote on you over all the other options. But it was also still RVS and your wagon didn't build much more after that unlike his did. I think that's why that shift in focus happened.
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Post by BB🌕 on Mar 18, 2020 21:54:34 GMT -5
I’m still here. I’m a little suspicious of Albie for drawing attention to other people Vote: Albie but, I mean, totally fair I guess because at least you're giving a reason? But what do you mean by "other people"? Are there specific people I should be drawing attention to and others that I shouldn't? I meant other people besides you. I’m suspicious because I think you were trying to question them to remove attention from yourself
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Post by Mylo13 💜 on Mar 18, 2020 21:55:31 GMT -5
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Post by charmander78 on Mar 18, 2020 22:02:48 GMT -5
BB is acting sus, yes, but i genuinely think the dude just doesn't have much experience. meanwhile, i'm much more worried about the person who has said that this isn't their first rodeo, and yet has changed their vote twice, conveniently right when a critical mass of people begun to target said person... Vote: HamedM1I agree with anna on this. Hamed casted a vote on Lordeftones when others were piling on, and flopped over to BB. This is a bit suspicious. Vote: HamedM1
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Post by Albie on Mar 18, 2020 22:05:19 GMT -5
but, I mean, totally fair I guess because at least you're giving a reason? But what do you mean by "other people"? Are there specific people I should be drawing attention to and others that I shouldn't? I meant other people besides you. I’m suspicious because I think you were trying to question them to remove attention from yourself This is exactly what I was hoping you weren't gonna say because there was no attention on me at the time. I had no votes on me nor was anyone really talking about me, so what attention was there for me to draw away? This doesn't make sense.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2020 22:10:37 GMT -5
Huh looks like I brought in a lot of attention I guess I mean I gave my reason for voting for Lordeftones and that was more or less just something to start with
Switched over to BB given the defense and how he is raising suspicion now towards Albie which could be a way of deflecting attention
It's the first day, who doesn't flip flop around a bit when everything is still fresh?
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Post by BB🌕 on Mar 18, 2020 22:14:47 GMT -5
I meant other people besides you. I’m suspicious because I think you were trying to question them to remove attention from yourself This is exactly what I was hoping you weren't gonna say because there was no attention on me at the time. I had no votes on me nor was anyone really talking about me, so what attention was there for me to draw away? This doesn't make sense. I’m guessing you wanted to keep it that way so people don’t vote against you
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2020 22:23:19 GMT -5
And there's the overt defense I was speaking of I rest my case, my flip flopping around hopefully now makes sense
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Post by BB🌕 on Mar 18, 2020 22:36:45 GMT -5
And there's the overt defense I was speaking of I rest my case, my flip flopping around hopefully now makes sense I didn’t realize I was being too defensive. I was just giving my side against Albie’s post. One again, I’m new to the game so I’m still getting to know how to play this
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Post by Mylo13 💜 on Mar 19, 2020 5:18:14 GMT -5
In case it wasn't explained earlier, there are 3 mafia goons and 13 vanilla townies, just as the original set-up has. These roles make up the 16 people playing~
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Post by Lordef†ones on Mar 19, 2020 8:33:36 GMT -5
If you want to narrow the scumhunt, at least one mafia member likely jumped on the quick bandwagon to vote for me.
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Mar 19, 2020 12:10:18 GMT -5
In just giving everything a once-over, here are a few other points: Albie was the first to place a vote on someone already with a vote, because toes, but we were still in RVS phase. BB placed a vote on kunt (the house) after Hamed already had one. walt91 voted for lordeftones less than half an hour after codex did (making it the third vote). We're still in RVS phase but it did seem odd to me, opportunistic as I put it before. codex voted for lordeftones because lordeftones voted for snarks (the third person to after me and albie) and said it was for "starting a lynchwagon". Would the lynchwagon start with the second or third person? Why didn't codex point his vote at albie? Granted, I found walt's vote for lordeftones odder than codex's vote, and walt was third too. why didn't i vote for codex over walt? I perceived codex's vote as being more RVS with a slight hint of a reason whereas walt had nothing. But then there's the string of votes that followed: lordeftones votes snarks (8:21am ET) codex votes lordeftones (8:31am ET) walt votes lordeftones (8:59am ET) mayman votes for charmander (9:11am ET) snarks votes lordeftones (12:29pm ET) house votes max (22 hours ago - current time: 12:50pm ET) nick perkins votes lordeftones (20 hours ago) BB votes lordeftones (20 hours ago) max votes walt (18 hours ago) albie votes bb (18 hours ago) web votes nick perkins (18 hours ago) hamed votes lordeftones (18 hours ago) "eh lets make things fun I guess since everyone else is doing it" That leaves the current votes at: [6] Lordeftones - CODEX-19 , walt91 , snarks , Nick Perkins , BB💙 , HamedM1💎 * [2] BB💙 - .exclusive , Albs [1] snarks - Lordeftones [1] CODEX-19 - anna [1] charmander78 - Mayman 🍯 [1] RÚZÃ NØLÆND!!!!!! - the house [1] walt91 - RÚZÃ NØLÆND!!!!!! (Please in future bold your votes, almost missed this one max) ((SORRY :( )) [1] Nick Perkins - Web Haven't Voted: charmander78 , Sailor Tanooki Experience levels: I’ve only played on pulse. I’ve played a bunch of games (20+? I don’t know the number) when they were more popular a few years ago. My experience level is probably high but my weakness is my lack of confidence in that experience and skill. I’m also admittedly reckless because of my bad memory and tbh laziness. I played a handful of games on different forums forever ago and I was pretty garbage but on here I've played 2 or 3 games that went much better lmao and then watched a few others in green rooms, i'd say decently experienced at pulse mafia. Maybe 8ish games total but some of those first ones are pretty embarrassing so I'm glad they're lost to time. I’ve been following along, admittedly a little new at forum mafia, but I’ve played a fair amount of werewolf. I have only ever played Mafia on Pulse. I'll venture to say I've played a good 10 games or so. I have had varied results but I usually get pretty into them when I have time and have done rather well in some, less so in others. Overall though I guess my experience level is also high.[/quote] To answer Max's question, this is my first time playing. I have always heard how fun these are and wanted to try it out. My experience with Mafia being Town of Salem so the choice to join in on a lynch to prosecute someone one day 1 is the normal icebreaker in that game It didn't feel strange for me but I guess we all have different experiences so it's whatever This is my first time playing mafia ✌️ I’m not that familiar with mafia so I’m still getting the hang of the game My level of playing mafia is... decent? I don't know, I haven't played in a long time. I played a lot of games, but I never really had a good strategy in the first place, I always just followed my intuition and did random s**t to accidentally cause drama Day1 and get things going. Which I guess is kind of happening right now too? I'm still waiting for the rest. From the above, I'm skeptical of walt still, hamed's vote on lordeftones came at a particularly striking time for a particularly non-reason despite him being close to reaching the vote mark. I don't think a scum would make a mistake like that but an inexperienced one might. BB could be newbie errors, nick perkins too, depending on experience level (I don't know it yet), and the pile-on of their votes as quick as they happened isn't a good look. I still want answers from the rest on my experience of the game question I asked a few pages back. As I said at the time, level of experience can help explain actions that could be passed off as newbie errors - or not.
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Post by Exclusive on Mar 19, 2020 12:15:43 GMT -5
DEAD I didn't even realise there was a wiki So, there are 2 lynches today? That's interesting If I'm not mistaken were using a nine votes for a lynch and not a majority vote. Even if there are two persons I'm still waiting for the rest. I'm a newbie as well, the only experience I have was reading through one thread, getting a gist of what the is like. I voted for BB just to have a vote in.
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Post by Nick P on Mar 19, 2020 12:17:18 GMT -5
heyo I’m also new to mafia
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Post by Web on Mar 19, 2020 12:34:19 GMT -5
quick popping in for now to say as it stands i'm really not for Lord as a lynch target at least for the first half of D1 bc of how quickly and artificially his wagon seemed to materialize
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Post by Nick P on Mar 19, 2020 12:43:23 GMT -5
I’ll be honest at first I voted for Lord because I had no idea what I was doing and didn’t want to anger anyone. However, I definitely don’t think Lord is mafia, as they’ve barely said anything in their defense, which gives my the vibe that they’re not really mafia.
Despite being new, the way BB played early on and their somewhat lacking defense later still has me suspicious. Love ya bud, but you’re acting super shady
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2020 13:04:14 GMT -5
Okay I've been trying to educate myself on the game for the last little bit bc as a newbie I really didn't realize what all went into looking for s**t and common things like RVS. From everything I'm reading I think all new players should try to educate themselves on common newbie mistakes bc a lot of s**t that can seem suspicious could also just be bad gameplay. From my limited knowledge and understanding - as a townie you're just trying to get the most information out as possible at the beginning without really being down for bandwagoning/making assumptions etc. So like from my (limited) perspective, The way Nick Perkins seems to be advocating for BB/saying things that make him seem mafia.. makes me instinctively think he's mafia and trying to seem like he doesn't know what he's doing lol. But I don't feel confident in that hunch at all and feel like it could also just be rookie mistake on my part thinking that. so I wouldn't advocate for that. For the more experienced players is this the kind of mindset you should try to have going forward if you're a newbie and want to help out the town?
So trying to get out as much information to start looking for intentions is what you want to do to really try to scope out the mafia right? and bandwagoning early on/trying to pin someone as mafia this early doesn't help the town right? Sorry for all the questions marks lol trying to contribute to the game as best as possible without making the wrong conclusions.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2020 13:09:13 GMT -5
Sorry forgot about the editing rule
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Post by Web on Mar 19, 2020 13:12:11 GMT -5
Okay I've been trying to educate myself on the game for the last little bit bc as a newbie I really didn't realize what all went into looking for s**t and common things like RVS. From everything I'm reading I think all new players should try to educate themselves on common newbie mistakes bc a lot of s**t that can seem suspicious could also just be bad gameplay or not knowing how to play well. From my limited knowledge and understanding - as a townie you're just trying to get the most information out as possible at the beginning without really being down for bandwagoning/making assumptions etc. So like from my (limited) perspective, The way Nick Perkins seems to be advocating for BB/saying things that make him seem mafia.. makes me instinctively think he's mafia and trying to seem like he doesn't know what he's doing lol. But I don't feel confident in that hunch at all and feel like it could also just be rookie mistake on my part thinking that. so I wouldn't advocate for that. For the more experienced players is this the kind of mindset you should try to have going forward if you're a newbie and want to help out the town? So trying to get out as much information to start looking for intentions is what you want to do to really try to scope out the mafia right? and bandwagoning early on/trying to pin someone as mafia this early doesn't help the town right? Sorry for all the questions marks lol trying to contribute to the game as best as possible without making the wrong conclusions. yeah the town starts the game completely blind, so the more discussion and information the town has to work with, the better. so players asking questions and digging around to look for their own conclusions from what others have said or voted rather than just posting "what Albie/Max/etc said sounds great, I agree and I'm voting with him" is the way to go especially in the beginning. everything is vague and murky to start and as more votes and stances are taken (and as players' affiliatons get revealed after lynches and nightkills) the town can build a better picture of who is and isn't scum
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Post by Koochie on Mar 19, 2020 13:12:23 GMT -5
Catching up now. eh lets make things fun I guess since everyone else is doing it Vote: LordeftonesIn retrospect, I think this was just a piss poor play than scummy. Scum has no reason to cast a yolo vote because "everyone else is doing it"; they'd try harder than that. Taking my FOS off of this having actually read the thread. Web reading your post at the bottom of the second page, I’m curious why we would ever just default to an inactive policy lynch when we could view this as an opportunity to scum hunt, especially if we mislynch the first time. Unsure of the logic here. so if we're running low on options for scum targets and are forced to turn to an inactive player for a lynch target at some point during the two day lynches, that more inactive lower information lynch should be saved for the second lynch if at all possible so we can get the insight/help after the first, higher information lynch from a larger town. what happens if we mislynch first, though? Do we continue to focus on the inactive players? What's wrong with lynching an inactive player first to give ourselves more time and information to go off of for the second lynch? Mayman states in reply 71 that he'll change his vote based on the information we have, but has yet to do so and left Lord very close to a lynch. I'm also wary about Codex's absence as well. rainie seemed dead set on Codex and adamantly defended Lord for shaky-at best reasons. I'm less concerned with this and more Nick P immediately hopping onto this as a "good point" when he was content throwing a vote down on Lord a page ago and his subsequent vote on BB for something he himself did. I also don't like how quickly anna backtracked on her suspicions from Codex with very minimal pressure as she hasn't laid out any real suspicions so far otherwise. FoS: Nick and anna. I’m still here. I’m a little suspicious of Albie for drawing attention to other people Vote: AlbieAt some point you have to discuss how other players are playing the game and press them on things, otherwise you'll get nowhere. What strategy would you take here? -- vote: charmanderdespite multiple suggestions to do so, they waited until a very convenient wagon was forming and have continued to either skirt around talking points or parrot others throughout the game. Sus as hell.
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Post by Koochie on Mar 19, 2020 13:16:06 GMT -5
quick popping in for now to say as it stands i'm really not for Lord as a lynch target at least for the first half of D1 bc of how quickly and artificially his wagon seemed to materialize Lord isn't at risk anymore lol
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2020 13:21:10 GMT -5
Vote Update #6: [4] BB🌕 - Exclusive , Albie , Nick P , @mirza * [4] @mirza - Web , rainie , charmander78 , Codex [3] Lordef†ones - walt91 , snarks , tanooki [2] charmander78 - Mayman , Koochie [1] snarks - Lordef†ones [1] walt91 - Devil Marlena Nylund [1] Albie - BB🌕 *BB would be lynched first as they reached 4 first. With 16 alive, it takes 9 votes to lynch!
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Post by Albie on Mar 19, 2020 14:03:00 GMT -5
I've got a little catching up to do so i'll be back shortly but question...
@mods: So we've got about one irl day before the D1 Lynch 1 deadline. And once that lynch happens, there will be no Twilight yet because we'll continue with D1. And we'll see the results of Lynch 1 right away? Is this correct?
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Post by charmander78 on Mar 19, 2020 14:15:19 GMT -5
I delayed my voting as I was wary of the lord wagon and wanted BB to defend himself, I didn’t want to just throw out my vote.
It may have seen convenient for me to vote for Hamed, and yes it may have seemed like I was parroting anna, though I just wanted to agree with their observations. It’s hard for me to come up with new insights, again I’m a new forum mafia player but I’ll try to not copy the best I can. But I am genuinely suspicious of Hameds flip flopping, it wasn’t cuz I was wagoning. 2 votes before mine I don’t think is a wagon, but I see that it can be construed that way.
Skirting around talking points, I’m not exactly sure what was meant, my posts have been about the discussion at hand . But I’ll try to answer more specific questions in the future.
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Post by Mayman on Mar 19, 2020 14:33:05 GMT -5
Koochie, the reason I haven't changed my vote yet is for the exact reason you stated, he hasn't really said anything much to defend himself against any accusations or questions. It seems like he's starting to now, so I will go ahead and ask this - Charmander, how come you didn't say anything when I voted you? It seems like you didn't even attempt to change my mind.
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Mar 19, 2020 14:42:58 GMT -5
I’ll be honest at first I voted for Lord because I had no idea what I was doing and didn’t want to anger anyone. However, I definitely don’t think Lord is mafia, as they’ve barely said anything in their defense, which gives my the vibe that they’re not really mafia Why? For all of our references, and for those who have played with me before I'm going to become a broken record, but: this line of thinking should probably be avoided. In this game, we should be suspicious of everyone until we get evidence or are convinced they are town. If Lord hasn't said anything in their defense, we have no reason to think they aren't mafia. He could very well be mafia. How others acted toward him doesn't change that and it's each of our jobs to convince everyone else that we are town until we narrow down the options.
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Post by Nick P on Mar 19, 2020 14:50:02 GMT -5
I’ll be honest at first I voted for Lord because I had no idea what I was doing and didn’t want to anger anyone. However, I definitely don’t think Lord is mafia, as they’ve barely said anything in their defense, which gives my the vibe that they’re not really mafia Why? For all of our references, and for those who have played with me before I'm going to become a broken record, but: this line of thinking should probably be avoided. In this game, we should be suspicious of everyone until we get evidence or are convinced they are town. If Lord hasn't said anything in their defense, we have no reason to think they aren't mafia. He could very well be mafia. How others acted toward him doesn't change that and it's each of our jobs to convince everyone else that we are town until we narrow down the options. thanks for the in depth explanation! I still don’t know a ton about the game, so at this point I’m mostly going off of hunches, though I’m super open to any and all suggestions anyone has
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Post by charmander78 on Mar 19, 2020 15:08:04 GMT -5
Koochie, the reason I haven't changed my vote yet is for the exact reason you stated, he hasn't really said anything much to defend himself against any accusations or questions. It seems like he's starting to now, so I will go ahead and ask this - Charmander, how come you didn't say anything when I voted you? It seems like you didn't even attempt to change my mind. Frankly because when you voted for me, that was during the time people were casting votes without much reason. Looking back you probably did have a specific reason why but you haven’t posted it til now. Though I simply could’ve asked why so that was my mistake.
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