Bilboard Hot 100: 04/04/2020

[85la]

Mar 21, 2020 16:16:42 GMT -5 king_billboard_100 said:

Mar 21, 2020 16:11:11 GMT -5 moonlite said:

The problem though is that even streaming is down across the board, songs still have their normal radio. Which I think will hurt his bomb since its like radio is being weighted more

How radio is still strong during the corona?

Since the audience levels are based on estimates, they probably haven't recalibrated them yet, since the pandemic in this country only started less than 2 weeks ago. I don't know how often they recalibrate, but once they do, we should see numbers start to drop.

[jessutation]

Mar 21, 2020 16:35:46 GMT -5 85la said:

Mar 21, 2020 16:16:42 GMT -5 king_billboard_100 said:

How radio is still strong during the corona?

Since the audience levels are based on estimates, they probably haven't recalibrated them yet, since the pandemic in this country only started less than 2 weeks ago. I don't know how often they recalibrate, but once they do, we should see numbers start to drop.

The last recalibration was around the time "Talk" was #1 on radio.

[phieaglesfan712]

I get why the Kenny Rogers songs are dominating the iTunes chart right now, but why is We Are the World on there? Are they doing some 35th anniversary thing for it?

[kcdawg13]

Mar 21, 2020 17:36:35 GMT -5 phieaglesfan712 said:

I get why the Kenny Rogers songs are dominating the iTunes chart right now, but why is We Are the World on there? Are they doing some 35th anniversary thing for it?

Kenny participated in the song, so it's gaining traction again. Also fortunate timing with the message of the song and what's going on right now.

[iHype.]

They're actually supposed to start surveys to see current radio consumption next week. The data from them won't actually be finished collecting, and make an impact on radio audience's being adjusted until late Summer at the earliest. 


Who knows if they're still going on schedule at this point though. 

[KeepDeanWeird]

Mar 21, 2020 16:35:46 GMT -5 85la said:

Mar 21, 2020 16:16:42 GMT -5 king_billboard_100 said:

How radio is still strong during the corona?

Since the audience levels are based on estimates, they probably haven't recalibrated them yet, since the pandemic in this country only started less than 2 weeks ago. I don't know how often they recalibrate, but once they do, we should see numbers start to drop.

The last survey I saw was 2017 and it reported than about 57% of radio listening occurred outside home. I imagine that non-home/home ratio is higher now. I haven't had a radio in my home in 5+ years.

We have to accept for the next few week/months, the H100 will be overweighing radio. Eh, considering the bigger picture (the world), I'm good with 'shaming' those who will complain about this when the charts are released.

[degen]

Mar 21, 2020 18:06:18 GMT -5 KeepDeanWeird said:

Mar 21, 2020 16:35:46 GMT -5 85la said:

Since the audience levels are based on estimates, they probably haven't recalibrated them yet, since the pandemic in this country only started less than 2 weeks ago. I don't know how often they recalibrate, but once they do, we should see numbers start to drop.

The last survey I saw was 2017 and it reported than about 57% of radio listening occurred outside home. I imagine that non-home/home ratio is higher now. I haven't had a radio in my home in 5+ years.

We have to accept for the next few week/months, the H100 will be overweighing radio. Eh, considering the bigger picture (the world), I'm good with 'shaming' those who will complain about this when the charts are released.

I really don’t see the point in complaining. Most Billboard #1 hits rely heavily on both streaming and airplay, and if they are overestimating radio audiences, it doesn’t mean the #1 song shouldn’t be at #1. It just means the point totals across the board are inflated.

[strongerq]

^What you said is true to a certain degree, but not entirely. Here is this scenario:

In 2 weeks it should most likely be Don't Start Now vs The Box for #1, based on the fhas's calculations for last week Don't Start Now had 52% of its points coming from radio while The Box had 24%. Even though streaming is only down 10-15% (it shouldn't affect the chart that much). What if The Box has 35K points and Don't Start Now has 35.2K points. In normal circumstances DSN would not be #1.

[fhas]

Streaming and sales hits are losing points on the Hot 100 because streaming/sales services are accurate enough to show how they're losing popularity. Radio audience is stable because they need to "re-calibrate". It's like... you're losing because you're accurate and you're not losing because you've no way to show that you're really losing. Makes no sense and it's extremely unfair.

[Deleted]

I don't understand how corona is making songs lose streams? Shouldn't they increase since everyone is home

[Naos]

Mar 21, 2020 19:38:33 GMT -5 @drakeisskinny said:

I don't understand how corona is making songs lose streams? Shouldn't they increase since everyone is home

Maybe some people prefer to listen to things on their commute.

[violentdreams]

I have a feeling that if this gets any worse, we're gonna end up back where we were in 2017 when a significant portion of the Spotify charts had under 200k streams. Especially since artists are going to be weary of releasing new material until the coronavirus is no longer spreading.

[lazer]

If a lot of people are staying in their homes, shouldn't the radio audience decline since the majority of the people who listen to radio do it in their cars?

[𝕡𝕙𝕖𝕖𝕓𝕤]

Mar 21, 2020 20:48:39 GMT -5 lazer said:

If a lot of people are staying in their homes, shouldn't the radio audience decline since the majority of the people who listen to radio do it in their cars?

As others have stated earlier, the audience number is an estimate. Audience is unlikely to dip much because of that.

[jessutation]

Mar 21, 2020 20:48:39 GMT -5 lazer said:

If a lot of people are staying in their homes, shouldn't the radio audience decline since the majority of the people who listen to radio do it in their cars?

The radio is where majority of Label cash-flow is...so there won't be a change In radio performance at this point. If streams/sales are this precarious due to the COVID-19 pandemic, then this just gives labels more leverage to throw more cash into 360-deals to help their big artists stay on top.

[sam8432]

Wait, so if radio audience is just estimates then how do we know it’s even ever truly accurate?

[jessutation]

Mar 21, 2020 19:16:26 GMT -5 fhas said:

Streaming and sales hits are losing points on the Hot 100 because streaming/sales services are accurate enough to show how they're losing popularity. Radio audience is stable because they need to "re-calibrate". It's like... you're losing because you're accurate and you're not losing because you've no way to show that you're really losing. Makes no sense and it's extremely unfair.

Labels will use this to their extreme advantage to ramp-up cash-flow to a lot of their artists' songs.

[jessutation]

Mar 21, 2020 20:53:51 GMT -5 sam8432 said:

Wait, so if radio audience is just estimates then how do we know it’s even ever truly accurate?

Just like any other estimates and surveys...we might never know 100% for sure.

[dovahduck]

^ So essentially, we live in a society 😔

[annoymous1]

I think we cleared the radio section of pulse bingo(if not already.)

[jessutation]

Mar 21, 2020 21:18:47 GMT -5 annoymous1 said:

I think we cleared the radio section of pulse bingo(if not already.)

lmao, pulse bingo...I love this community! 

[dovahduck]

Anton Tammi (director of this album's cycles music videos) confirmed a fourth video is on its way soon, however it seems we may get a lot more:

[jessutation]

Mar 21, 2020 21:37:20 GMT -5 dovahduck said:

Anton Tammi (director of this album's cycles music videos) confirmed a fourth video is on its way soon, however it seems we may get a lot more:

A visual album?? I could only hope!

[nak]

Buy and Stream Future Nostalgia to flatten the coronavirus curve.

[Henry Suárez]

I'm listening to radio at my home while playing Pokemon Sword that I finally bought lol, they have played Circles and Don't Start Now like 5 or 6 times tonight.

[ry4n]

Mar 21, 2020 20:53:51 GMT -5 sam8432 said:

Wait, so if radio audience is just estimates then how do we know it’s even ever truly accurate?

I mean, so are TV ratings, but those are still treated with importance in that industry

[Harx]

Mar 21, 2020 21:37:20 GMT -5 dovahduck said:

Anton Tammi (director of this album's cycles music videos) confirmed a fourth video is on its way soon, however it seems we may get a lot more:

Yes!!! Deliver that aesthetic!

[Au$tin]

Mar 21, 2020 20:53:51 GMT -5 sam8432 said:

Wait, so if radio audience is just estimates then how do we know it’s even ever truly accurate?

Mathematics, science, geography, and marketing. Surveys are done often to determine listener habits, population is taken into account, trends are used, graphs and formulas, etc. It's an extremely important and lucrative thing in the industry. They don't play around with it. It's as important to the radio industry as the census is to the government. Determines budgets, advertisement charging, and helps stations determine playlists. They're not 100% accurate, sure, but they're very close to it. It's only in extreme cases like right now where it's going to be off.

[kalmanta]

So what’s the deal, is In Your Eyes impacting next week or are they waiting to see what’s connecting better with the audience like they did with Drakes Don’t Matter To Me and In My Feelings?

[#brayden]

Mar 22, 2020 1:20:08 GMT -5 kalmanta said:

So what’s the deal, is In Your Eyes impacting next week or are they waiting to see what’s connecting better with the audience like they did with Drakes Don’t Matter To Me and In My Feelings?

Pretty sure "In Your Eyes" is being pushed as the next single.