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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2020 19:23:07 GMT -5
Libra was regarded as a flop at the time because she was still seen as potentially being viable at Urban radio and was only 5 years off her last big pop hit with "He Wasn't Man Enough", so having the biggest hit from that project be a #7 Urban AC hit that did nothing anywhere else was not seen as a success. At this point of her career, the expectations are different.
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Post by stunnedout on Apr 16, 2020 19:59:00 GMT -5
Not really. Libra was pone of the things that hurt her at Urban AC. "Please" was not what Urban AC wanted from Toni Braxton. A #7 peak says otherwise; Trippin' was the "flop" between the two and that one still went top-20. Yea it peaked at #7 and they didn't touch anything else she did after no matter how Urban AC leaning it was. She was trying to cater to a young audience that paid her dust and alienated her core. She barely went top 10 with Hands Tied from her next project, but it was indeed the Babyface album that helped erase her bad image at Urban AC and make her a urban ac mainstay again.
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Post by SHOOTER on Apr 17, 2020 2:13:47 GMT -5
Please - #7 Trippin' - #19
Yesterday - #11 Hands Tied - #6
Hurt You - #1 Where Did We Go Wrong? - #11 Roller Coaster - #17
Deadwood - #7 Long As I Live - #1
The Babyface album couldn’t produce more than one top-10 hit, just last like her two albums before it and something one would think would be easier to achieve coming off a #1 hit. It might’ve had a much more positive reception than the albums that preceded it but Urban AC was far from being anti-Toni Braxton.
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Post by Ky on Apr 17, 2020 8:20:36 GMT -5
Please - #7 Trippin' - #19 Yesterday - #11 Hands Tied - #6 Hurt You - #1 Where Did We Go Wrong? - #11 Roller Coaster - #17 Deadwood - #7 Long As I Live - #1 The Babyface album couldn’t produce more than one top-10 hit, just last like her two albums before it and something one would think would be easier to achieve coming off a #1 hit. It might’ve had a much more positive reception than the albums that preceded it but Urban AC was far from being anti-Toni Braxton. Thanks for posting the peaks! "Where Did We Go Wrong?" was a choice Especially with Roller Coaster and Sweat right there. I think either could've easily gone top 5 as a follow up to "Hurt You". I remember being a little turned off by "Please" right away because, like StunnedOut and others say above, it felt a little like she was desperately chasing a hit. I completely changed my mind about it very quickly and realized it's fire. I'm 100% a Libra stan (fave album of hers tied with Secrets), but I do remember lots of talk of "Trippin'" sounding like a knock-off of bigger hits when it came out. Same thing with "Take This Ring". I was all about her pushing "Midnight", "Sposed to Be" at the time. However it went down, I'm glad there are a few people on this board that appreciate Libra as much as I do. Even though the Pulse songs fit with the format, that era felt so unfocused with her trying to get dance or pop hit at the same time. I completely agree with Jazzy that her legacy was somewhat in jeopardy and she was more of a joke punchline for a while, and I'm so glad to see her come out on top. I think it's pretty similar to how Janet's profile has changed in the past several years (obviously on a different scale).
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Post by vithor on Apr 17, 2020 10:17:50 GMT -5
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Post by #LisaRinna on Apr 18, 2020 9:48:44 GMT -5
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Post by #LisaRinna on Apr 19, 2020 6:15:42 GMT -5
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Post by stunnedout on Apr 19, 2020 7:41:05 GMT -5
Please - #7 Trippin' - #19 Yesterday - #11 Hands Tied - #6 Hurt You - #1 Where Did We Go Wrong? - #11 Roller Coaster - #17 Deadwood - #7 Long As I Live - #1 The Babyface album couldn’t produce more than one top-10 hit, just last like her two albums before it and something one would think would be easier to achieve coming off a #1 hit. It might’ve had a much more positive reception than the albums that preceded it but Urban AC was far from being anti-Toni Braxton. The Babyface album got her her first Grammy nomination and win since 2001 and gave her the image overhaul she desperately needed....enough said.
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Post by R.K. on Apr 19, 2020 10:10:08 GMT -5
Her twitter commentary on the Babyface vs Teddy Riley fiasco seems to be helping her streaming numbers.
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Post by vithor on Apr 20, 2020 16:36:27 GMT -5
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Post by Caviar on Apr 21, 2020 10:38:21 GMT -5
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Post by vithor on Apr 26, 2020 22:20:25 GMT -5
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Post by stunnedout on Apr 27, 2020 6:21:08 GMT -5
The melody of this song has potential, but it feels so anti climatic. This feels more like an interlude than a first single. I am so baffled by this release.
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Post by #LisaRinna on Apr 27, 2020 7:36:04 GMT -5
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Post by Ling-Ling on Apr 27, 2020 9:39:08 GMT -5
The melody of this song has potential, but it feels so anti climatic. This feels more like an interlude than a first single. I am so baffled by this release. I'm with you. I worship some Toni, but this still does nothing for me. I'm happy to see her doing well though. Hopefully the second single does it for me.
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Post by JRC on Apr 27, 2020 16:32:03 GMT -5
The melody of this song has potential, but it feels so anti climatic. This feels more like an interlude than a first single. I am so baffled by this release. I'm with you. I worship some Toni, but this still does nothing for me. I'm happy to see her doing well though. Hopefully the second single does it for me. It needed a stronger bridge imo. Could have taken it to the next level.
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Post by #LisaRinna on Apr 28, 2020 7:59:57 GMT -5
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Post by Caviar on May 3, 2020 21:51:31 GMT -5
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