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Post by 85la on Apr 23, 2020 0:59:05 GMT -5
The topic of whether songs in movies, tv shows, ads, etc. should count is interesting, because at first I thought no way, but then I was thinking wait a minute, this refers to synch deals, which can make a significant amount of money for labels, publishing companies, and all parties involved, ESPECIALLY if the song is or becomes popular. So in terms of the biggest drivers of revenue, which is part of the Hot 100, synch deals can definitely rank high up there, and if the movie or show becomes popular, a lot of people will hear the song. In terms of listener choice, however, there is none, as the audience is completely captive and will listen to whatever song is played, unless people would seek out a movie or tv show specifically to listen to a particular song, which usually isn't the case.
It's an interesting topic, but I still don't know how much and if at all they should count, and any impact the songs have are typically felt through the other metrics already, such as when people go to stream and download the songs. Another thing is that older, classic songs are used very heavily in synch deals because they provide consistent, steady income, so you could have a song like New York, New York or some famous instrumental like Beethoven's 5th charting for years and years and years.
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Post by forg on Apr 23, 2020 1:15:41 GMT -5
Good point about Tiktok views being in the similar "automatic" type Facebook is which is more to prone inaccuracy and manipulation. And will Tiktok allow third party Nielsen Soundscan audit their views?
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Post by wrip on Apr 23, 2020 1:37:48 GMT -5
Something else that could be interesting and helpful would be the like-to-view ratio. Because maybe something might get viewed a million times for example, but then will get like 100 likes. The music choice definitely impacts the success of the Tik Tok tbh
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Post by dynamac on Apr 23, 2020 3:57:27 GMT -5
I like the way that TikTok/Commercials/Movie Songs are counted now.
If people like the songs they hear in those medias, they’ll stream/buy them and make them hits.
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Apr 23, 2020 4:10:14 GMT -5
What about classic songs though? Like Mr. Blue Sky or Hooked on a Feeling got big and popular with the younger generation thanks to the Guardians of the Galaxy movies, should those songs chart again?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2020 4:29:19 GMT -5
Am I the only one who wishes for less longevity overall? Not hating on Post, I like "Circles", but I'd take faster turnover over stagnant top 10s any day. 34 weeks is an insane amount of time for ANY song to spend in the top 10, come on now. I for one am waiting for the day songs spend a full year in the top ten |
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Apr 23, 2020 9:23:14 GMT -5
kworb's Billboard Radio Songs Estimates 2020/04/23
1(=) The Weeknd - Blinding Lights 151.86(+0.63)
2(=) Dua Lipa - Don't Start Now 133.39(-0.56)
3(=) Harry Styles - Adore You 123.86(-1.44) -
4(=) Doja Cat - Say So 116.96(+2.05)
5(=) Post Malone - Circles 109.73(-0.35)
6(=) Camila Cabello - My Oh My (feat. DaBaby) 106.71(+0.77)
7(=) Roddy Ricch - The Box 103.60(-0.54)
8(=) Billie Eilish - everything i wanted 102.36(-0.13)
9(=) Maren Morris - The Bones 92.38(+0.10)
10(=) Justin Bieber - Intentions (feat. Quavo) 88.20(+1.02)
13(=) Drake - Toosie Slide 72.62(+1.96)
21(+1) Ingrid Andress - More Hearts Than Mine 54.92(+1.32)
35(+2) Russ - BEST ON EARTH (feat. BIA) [Bonus] 40.43(+0.72)
44(+4) Roddy Ricch - High Fashion (feat. Mustard) 37.49(+1.36)
53(+1) Megan Thee Stallion - Savage 33.64(+1.95)
55(=) DaBaby - VIBEZ 32.67(+1.06)
62(+2) twenty one pilots - Level of Concern 29.07(+1.09)
69(+3) Surfaces - Sunday Best 24.62(+0.71)
-(-) SAINt JHN - Roses (Imanbek Remix) 14.59(+0.72)
-(-) Sam Smith & Demi Lovato - I'm Ready 10.20(+1.49)
-(-) Luke Bryan - One Margarita 7.87(+0.82)
-(-) Lil Uzi Vert - That Way 6.34(+2.90) +
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Apr 23, 2020 9:36:57 GMT -5
Spotify - 04/22/20
1(=) Drake - Toosie Slide 1,381,087 (-40,556)
2(=) Lil Mosey - Blueberry Faygo 1,317,793 (-38,360)
3(=) The Weeknd - Blinding Lights 1,241,224 (-36,454)
4(=) Roddy Ricch - The Box 1,198,163 (-22,952)
5(=) DaBaby - ROCKSTAR 1,173,456 (-40,400)
6(=) Jack Harlow - WHATS POPPIN 912,344 (-18,658)
7(=) SAINt Jhn - Roses (Imanbek Remix) 888,707 (-20,596)
8(=) Doja Cat - Say So 823,673 (+1,007)
9(=) Dua Lipa - Don't Start Now 781,529 (-18,281)
10(=) Megan Thee Stallion - Savage 771,635 (-12,247)
Others:
11(=) powfu - death bed 720,005 (-14,867)
13(+1) NLE Choppa - Walk Em Down 687,142 (+3,654)
14(+1) Justin Bieber - Intentions 664,595 (-8,669)
15(-2) Surfaces - Sunday Best 662,814 (-25,512)
16(=) Future - Life is Good 654,782 (-14,103)
17(+10) Travis Scott - HIGHEST IN THE ROOM 600,386 (+68,543)
18(-1) Playboi Carti - @ MEH 598,421 (-62,061)
20(-2) DaBaby - FIND MY WAY 596,211 (-39,489)
22(+25) Travis Scott - SICKO MODE 590,179 (+161,522)
24(-3) Roddy Ricch - High Fashion 579,302 (-14,086)
25(-2) BENEE - Supalonely 575,598 (-2,191)
26(=) Lil Uzi Vert - P2 555,167 (-1,938)
28(-4) Sam Smith - I'm Ready 543,588 (-23,949)
29(=) G Herbo - PTSD 520,849 (+3,833)
33(-1) The Weeknd - In Your Eyes 488,172 (-5,439)
34(+2) Don Toliver - After Party 487,072 (+17,012)
36(+17) Travis Scott - goosebumps 476,074 (+90,312)
42(-3) Doja Cat - Boss Bitch 438,863 (-8,875)
46(=) Dua Lipa - Break My Heart 423,349 (-7,027)
47(+3) Lil Uzi Vert - That Way 419,428 (+486)
50(-8) Joji - Gimme Love 411,852 (-26,362)
53(-1) twenty one pilots - Level of Concern 388,736 (-3,771)
56(+1) JACKBOYS - OUT WEST 376,684 (+6,068)
59(=) Madison Beer - Selfish 358,230 (-1,966)
66(+1) Lewis Capaldi - Before You Go 336,265 (-2,276)
71(-1) Surf Mesa - ily (i love you) 315,422 (-12,283)
95(+44) Travis Scott - BUTTERFLY EFFECT 286,659 (+51,239)
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Post by Enigma. on Apr 23, 2020 9:41:46 GMT -5
Interesting that Travis does better on Spotify than AM, he's a rapper after all.
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Post by musicspy on Apr 23, 2020 9:51:37 GMT -5
Does anyone know a way (fanpage or twitter acount or smth) where i can find an artist's singles and deepcuts consumption? More than how much their album tracks have sold and streamed. Thanks :)
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Apr 23, 2020 10:19:03 GMT -5
Does anyone know a way (fanpage or twitter acount or smth) where i can find an artist's singles and deepcuts consumption? More than how much their album tracks have sold and streamed. Thanks  If you're using Spotify on a laptop or computer, just point your cursor over the bar text to the timescale of the song and you get can the number of streams it's gotten. |
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Post by musicspy on Apr 23, 2020 10:33:54 GMT -5
Does anyone know a way (fanpage or twitter acount or smth) where i can find an artist's singles and deepcuts consumption? More than how much their album tracks have sold and streamed. Thanks If you're using Spotify on a laptop or computer, just point your cursor over the bar text to the timescale of the song and you get can the number of streams it's gotten. Thanks so much! |
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Post by wrip on Apr 23, 2020 10:40:20 GMT -5
Blueberry Faygo is so close to number one!!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2020 10:41:54 GMT -5
It's crazy how Travis' songs have been rising on Spotify and Apple Music days before the concert even begins. If Marshmello benefited from it and had a 2016 song re-enter, you can bet Travis will do even more damage. I expect both "SICKO MODE" and "HIGHEST IN THE ROOM" to re-enter, not to mention the boosts for his features which are already charting.
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Post by Enigma. on Apr 23, 2020 10:58:25 GMT -5
That is, if he performs them in the first place.
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Post by lazer on Apr 23, 2020 11:20:30 GMT -5
Looks like Tootsie Roll Slide only has a limited appeal. The Spotify numbers don't lie!
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Post by shaz196 on Apr 23, 2020 11:22:54 GMT -5
Hope Goosebumps re-enters
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Post by Lukas on Apr 23, 2020 11:23:32 GMT -5
Looks like Tootsie Roll Slide only has a limited appeal. The Spotify numbers don't lie! Yeah, being popular on TikTok, getting over 55M streams in a week, still being #1 on Spotify almost 3 weeks after release, and getting really good radio increases definitely means that the song "has a limited appeal." |
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Post by tuna on Apr 23, 2020 11:34:00 GMT -5
These gains for Travis are ridiculous. Can’t imagine what it’ll be like tomorrow
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Post by annoymous1 on Apr 23, 2020 12:24:38 GMT -5
Maybe if SICKO MODE re enters the charts Drake can finally get credited.
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Post by shaz196 on Apr 23, 2020 12:30:25 GMT -5
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Post by tuna on Apr 23, 2020 13:12:59 GMT -5
2020 is already looking to have an 'unexpected comebacks' list to match 2019's.
The Black Eyed Peas
Eminem
Gwen Stefani
and now Kid Cudi
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Post by thegreatdivine on Apr 23, 2020 13:15:50 GMT -5
Maybe if SICKO MODE re enters the charts Drake can finally get credited. If Travis didn't credit Drake after the song dropped, after all the times they performed the song together in 2018 and after the song went #1, there's no way he's crediting Drake now. Drake doesn't need the credit anyways. He'll just grab more #1 hits this year. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2020 13:24:04 GMT -5
2020 is already looking to have an 'unexpected comebacks' list to match 2019's. The Black Eyed Peas Eminem Gwen Stefani and now Kid Cudi This is a great list, but I think it will be hard to match the fantastically random combination of Bastille, Panic! At The Disco, The Jonas Brothers, Jeremih, Billy Ray Cyrus, Ozzy Osbourne, and Snow. 😄 |
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Post by tuna on Apr 23, 2020 14:29:53 GMT -5
2020 is already looking to have an 'unexpected comebacks' list to match 2019's. The Black Eyed Peas Eminem Gwen Stefani and now Kid Cudi This is a great list, but I think it will be hard to match the fantastically random combination of Bastille, Panic! At The Disco, The Jonas Brothers, Jeremih, Billy Ray Cyrus, Ozzy Osbourne, and Snow. 😄 Half of those were 2018 and half were 2019 |
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Post by owenlovesmusic on Apr 23, 2020 14:45:27 GMT -5
OMG yessss let’s finally get Kid Cudi a #1! |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2020 15:28:35 GMT -5
2020 is already looking to have an 'unexpected comebacks' list to match 2019's. The Black Eyed Peas Eminem Gwen Stefani and now Kid Cudi Eminem had like six top ten hits last year |
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Post by strongerq on Apr 23, 2020 15:44:57 GMT -5
^ 2018: 3 top 10s
2019: 1 top 10
2020: 1 top 10
But yeah Eminem never left in the first place to have a "comeback".
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Post by GP on Apr 23, 2020 15:59:58 GMT -5
Happier re-entering on Spotify in some places around the world already
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Post by Henry Suárez on Apr 23, 2020 16:55:45 GMT -5
Maybe if SICKO MODE re enters the charts Drake can finally get credited. On Youtube, at least, he's credited: "Travis Scott - SICKO MODE ft. Drake (Official Video)" people didn't notice he was already credited or... |
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