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Post by Kanenrá:ke on Nov 24, 2020 18:06:16 GMT -5
Perfect bottom 3!
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Post by bboat11 on Nov 24, 2020 18:07:36 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2020 18:09:40 GMT -5
I blame the marketing as to why this got backlash. Though while it’s a good story, this still suffers from a hodgepodge of plots used from other Disney films.
Also dear god, this did NOT deserve to beat Wreck It Ralph for the Oscars.
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Post by bboat11 on Nov 24, 2020 18:10:30 GMT -5
We kick off the top 19 by already having our second #1 loss, this time to the unfortunate chagrin of @jadenlefranks. Meanwhile, Mylo13 💜, who lost his #1 in last place, is the second highest ranker for this movie, losing his #3
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Post by anthony11554 on Nov 24, 2020 18:12:46 GMT -5
Yes great reveal
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2020 18:13:51 GMT -5
This is a pretty good film! Not one of their best, but definitely not bad at all.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2020 18:13:56 GMT -5
Why do I have a feeling your bottom ranking is less about the movie itself and more about who’s on the poster?
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Post by anthony11554 on Nov 24, 2020 18:14:54 GMT -5
Why do I have a feeling your bottom ranking is less about the movie itself and more about who’s on the poster? No dude trust me it was 100% non bias i swear, can post pics to prove it
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Post by Kanenrá:ke on Nov 24, 2020 18:27:08 GMT -5
Figured Brave would be out next, I actually think it deserves more praise than it gets normally but I also recognize why it's not as loved as others.
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Post by bboat11 on Nov 24, 2020 18:27:54 GMT -5
I always have mixed feelings about Brave. There are a lot of aspects to this story that are really compelling! For example, Mordu is a TERRIFYING villain, and the most engaging moments of the film almost universally happen when he is on screen. And then Merida accidentally dooming her mother to the same fate because of her own pride makes for an excellent story!
Unfortunately, outside of that story, there is a LOT of unnecessary fluff. For example, I feel like the father is a super interesting character, whose entire potential goes to shit once the first 10 minutes of the film are up. The fact that he spends the second half of the movie blindly destroying his own home and leading the men on a comical bear hunt, completely ignoring Merida who's literally telling him what's going on..... I struggle a lot when that much of the plot is centered around over-the-top miscommunication. The triplets and the father all seemingly have literally no function in the film other than comedic relief.
Meanwhile, the queen is super unlikable for the way she treats Merida, and Merida is super unlikable for the way she treats literally everyone. I spend much of the movie just kinda frustrated because I have no idea who to root for.
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Post by bboat11 on Nov 24, 2020 19:18:20 GMT -5
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Post by anthony11554 on Nov 24, 2020 19:22:05 GMT -5
This was fun although kinda generic
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2020 19:22:42 GMT -5
Is it inferior to the original, without a doubt Do I still enjoy it yeah
The original though fucking kicks asssssssssss
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Post by bboat11 on Nov 24, 2020 19:24:40 GMT -5
Monsters University bows out next, going along with what most people seem to have predicted! This movie is alright. I like it because I like everything Pixar touches, but it definitely doesn't have quite the same impact as most of their original films. I will say, the part near the end where Mike and Sully are in the real human world is so beautifully done! You can FEEL the danger and menace in the air as they're terrified to be in the human world for the first time. And the way they put that fear aside to work together to orchestrate a huge scare for the humans, with Mike the brains behind the operation and Sully as the brawn, you finally realize why they are such a great team in the future when they are working at Monsters, Inc. The first movie doesn't really touch on Sully's flaws or Mike's skills, and establishing that as the basis for their relationship in Monsters U really makes the original movie that much more meaningful imo.
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Post by bboat11 on Nov 24, 2020 19:30:15 GMT -5
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Post by raylatch98 on Nov 24, 2020 19:32:59 GMT -5
If you were gonna go back to the Monsters Inc universe it should have been a sequel which imo has so much more potential and keeps the best part of the OG Monsters Inc movie and that is the Sully and Boo dynamic (fuck I sobbed for 2 hours after watching Monsters Inc the first time).
I get the appeal of Monsters University but the movie as a whole just feels so empty.
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Post by Fire on Nov 24, 2020 19:34:06 GMT -5
my elementary school always played monsters inc when it was too rainy to go outside but they always stopped at like the 30 minute mark so that's literally all i've ever watched of it and i barely even remember that.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2020 19:35:07 GMT -5
meh
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2020 19:39:07 GMT -5
What completely saves MU is the message itself. A hard brutal yet true message to kids.
And yeah, Onward’s ending sort of saved it. But again, it has such a great setting and story used as a metaphor for a dying parent.
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Post by raylatch98 on Nov 24, 2020 19:39:34 GMT -5
Onwards is good and the ending in particular is very touching. However the quest ending up back in the hometown was such a letdown, and the movie takes a while for me to get going before getting fully invested and that is mainly due to the older brother being a bit too annoying at first.
The whole second half of the movie is very great. But this movie for some reason for me always felt like a Dreamworks movie and not Pixar.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2020 19:43:24 GMT -5
Now I except Finding Dory and Cars out next, and from that point forward...it’s going to be a tragic bloodbath.
But for real, TS4, A Bugs Life and even the first Toy Story Id see as the first that should go during the bath.
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Post by anthony11554 on Nov 24, 2020 19:44:15 GMT -5
Onwards is good and the ending in particular is very touching. However the quest ending up back in the hometown was such a letdown, and the movie takes a while for me to get going before getting fully invested and that is mainly due to the older brother being a bit too annoying at first. The whole second half of the movie is very great. But this movie for some reason for me always felt like a Dreamworks movie and not Pixar. To me it felt like a Dreamworks movie cause having Chris Pratt and Tom Holland in 1 movie seems like something they would do.
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Post by bboat11 on Nov 24, 2020 19:55:30 GMT -5
I don't have a lot to say about Onward. At first glance this is easily one of my least favorite of Pixar's original films. I feel like this universe had a lot of potential, that just kinda ended up being squandered. This movie would have practically been the same regardless of the setting. Whereas something like Finding Nemo, Toy Story, Coco, Monster's Inc., etc. establish their universe fully, and said universe integrally drives the plot, I feel like this movie has a very cliche plot happening in the middle of a cool universe. There are compelling moments, like realizing the importance of brotherly love, but everything outside of that moment just feels kinda two dimensional and hollow to me.
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Post by bboat11 on Nov 24, 2020 20:00:03 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2020 20:03:33 GMT -5
Yeah, as odd as the Cars universe is, it’s still hard to really not like the first one.
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Post by bboat11 on Nov 24, 2020 20:10:19 GMT -5
And now we are officially saying goodbye to the Cars franchise!
Honestly, this first Cars movie is so magical to me. I could have easily put it at #1 depending on the day, and if I hadn't known y'all were going to tank it to hell 😂 People give it too much flack for being about a bunch of cars imo. The writers created a universe that uses those cars to their maximum potential without it seeming awkward or campy, at least in my opinion. (The sudden abandonment of the believable physics that were set up in this first one is mostly where Cars 2 kinda went off the rails, imo).
In terms of animation quality, life lessons, character development, etc. this is right up there with Pixar's best. The music is spot on as well!!
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Post by ClevelandRox on Nov 24, 2020 20:15:42 GMT -5
The first Cars is so great. I love the broke-down-in-a-small-town plot and really find this one a lot more endearing than the other two. Back before every piece of Dollar General child's furniture was Lightning McQueen lol
Also I guess we lucked out in this having to watch those Planes movies! (they're disney spinoffs of Pixar movies or how does that work? 😂)
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Post by bboat11 on Nov 24, 2020 20:15:50 GMT -5
I would love to continue, but not enough people seem to be here! I'll go ahead and do a recap here and give folks a chance to get caught up :)
Recap: 22. Cars 2 (514) 21. The Good Dinosaur (489)
20. Cars 3 (465) 19. Brave (403) 18. Monsters University (391) 17. Onward (386) 16. Cars (359)
The top 15: A Bug’s Life Coco Finding Dory Finding Nemo Incredibles 2 Inside Out Monsters, Inc. Ratatouille The Incredibles Toy Story Toy Story 2 Toy Story 3 Toy Story 4 Up WALL-E
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Post by ClevelandRox on Nov 24, 2020 20:22:10 GMT -5
We're already running out of fat to cut. 😓 I guess I can see Ratatouille soon and Incredibles 2/Finding Dory because they're sequels.. IDK what else. 😬 Y'all have me worried for A Bug's Life.
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Post by bboat11 on Nov 24, 2020 20:23:00 GMT -5
The first Cars is so great. I love the broke-down-in-a-small-town plot and really find this one a lot more endearing than the other two. Back before every piece of Dollar General child's furniture wasn't Lightning McQueen lol Also I guess we lucked out in this having to watch those Planes movies! (they're disney spinoffs of Pixar movies or how does that work? 😂)Honestly, I have no idea 😂 They are not Pixar! Pixar was always against making sequels in general unless they had a good story, which is why Toy Story 2 was their only sequel for like their entire first decade of movies. Then when Disney got more ownership they started kinda forcing Pixar to make sequels of the most marketable franchises (hence the sudden influx of unnecessary sequels in the 2010s). I'm guessing Pixar must have kept just enough ownership of their choice-making rights to tell Disney to fuck off when they asked them to make a Cars spinoff, but not enough ownership to prevent them from using the same universe for their own movies. At least that's my guess. I've never seen Planes, because the whole thing just reeks of Disney going behind Pixar's back to tap into a cash cow that Pixar was trying to walk away from.
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