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Post by fearlessarrow on May 23, 2020 17:38:39 GMT -5
Taylor Swift Album Rankdown Series: Extras I basically just took single/album covers different phases of Taylor's career (that had Taylor on the cover) and smashed them together sorry not sorry lol.
Hello - after a year-plus break from hosting any Taylor Swift-related rankdowns, I am officially BACK as the host of Taylor Swift-related rankdowns! Before we head into the Taylor Swift singles rankdown redo that some of you have been patiently waiting for, here's one more rankdown leading up to that one so that we cover her output that wasn't on her studio albums. After this one and Max's Lover rankdown finishes, I'm going to finally open the rankdown of the cruel, cruel summer - the Taylor Swift Singles Rankdown 2.0. This rankdown will include tracks from various soundtracks, her Beautiful Eyes EP ("I Heart ?" was a bonus track on the Best Buy version of Taylor Swift as a download but later also appeared in the Walmart-exclusive release Beautiful Eyes), and her features. I'm leaving her unreleased tracks off the rankdown (she has some pretty well-known ones in the fandom like "I'd Lie" and "Permanent Marker") due to them not being commercially released ever. She isn't credited on "Half of My Heart" but I have seen her be credited in some cases so I included it here. That brings our total to 19 tracks.
Song List: Beautiful Eyes I Heart ? Crazier American Girl Breathless Today Was A Fairytale Safe & Sound (feat. The Civil Wars) Eyes Open Ronan Sweeter Than Fiction Beautiful Ghosts Macavity Only The Young Two Is Better Than One [Boys Like Girls feat. Taylor Swift] Half of My Heart [John Mayer feat. Taylor Swift] Both of Us [B.o.B. feat. Taylor Swift] Highway Don't Care [Tim McGraw with Taylor Swift feat. Keith Urban] I Don't Wanna Live Forever [ZAYN & Taylor Swift] Babe [Sugarland feat. Taylor Swift] Spotify Playlist (I don't have Apple Music, Sorry):Songs That Are Not on Streaming Services:Beautiful EyesI Heart ?American GirlBreathlessA lot of these are actually going to appear in the singles RD as well, so consider it a preparation rankdown! I thought about including Taylor's cover of Rihanna's "Umbrella" from the iTunes Live from SoHo EP to make it an even 20, but it's not a full cover of the song (it's 1.5 minutes long) so I excluded it. Her Christmas tracks will be ranked in a separate holiday-themed mini-rankdown of 7 songs during the holiday season! I'm going to set the due date for 4 weeks from now (June 20th) since it is a fairly short rankdown, but let me know if you need more time! I'm aiming for a July-August time frame for the singles rankdown (so I can have the cruel summer theme going for the singles RD even if "Cruel Summer" sadly won't be in it), so as long as I can reveal in time to make that RD happen around then, we'll be good!
Also some of these songs I was on the fence about ("American Girl" and "Breathless" are covers - the latter she released for the Hope for Haiti Now album + they are not on streaming services), so if you feel inclined either way (including/removing) feel free to respond in thread!
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Post by born on May 23, 2020 17:39:29 GMT -5
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Post by BB🌕 on May 23, 2020 17:41:15 GMT -5
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Post by wrip on May 23, 2020 18:19:52 GMT -5
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Post by ClevelandRox on May 23, 2020 19:05:12 GMT -5
Omg no "I'd Lie", "Untouchable", "Jump then Fall" 😭😭😢😭😫I do see my #1 though, it's in my all-time Taylor top ten.
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Post by fearlessarrow on May 23, 2020 19:41:53 GMT -5
Omg no "I'd Lie", "Untouchable", "Jump then Fall" 😭😭😢😭😫I do see my #1 though, it's in my all-time Taylor top ten. Yeah so I left "I'd Lie" off since it wasn't officially released and then "Untouchable" and "Jump Then Fall" were part of the Fearless rankdown which included all the tracks from the platinum edition as well!
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Post by sapphire on May 23, 2020 19:48:30 GMT -5
I'll have to spend time listening to this playlist again to decide. Most are not in my active playlists, but I'm in!
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Post by alexcuse on May 23, 2020 21:51:18 GMT -5
Hope “This is What You Came For” also gets included for completions sake, since she was such a prominent part of that song
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Post by fearlessarrow on May 23, 2020 22:09:19 GMT -5
Hope “This is What You Came For” also gets included for completions sake, since she was such a prominent part of that song My initial rationale in excluding songs like "Best Days of Your Life" and "This Is What You Came For" where she was a co-writer and the background vocalist on the song was solely due to how the credits worked - if enough people want to see them included I could certainly include them ("Better Man" seems a bit of a stretch since she did write it but didn't provide any vocals on it).
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Post by bboat11 on May 23, 2020 22:36:08 GMT -5
Hope “This is What You Came For” also gets included for completions sake, since she was such a prominent part of that song My initial rationale in excluding songs like "Best Days of Your Life" and "This Is What You Came For" where she was a co-writer and the background vocalist on the song was solely due to how the credits worked - if enough people want to see them included I could certainly include them ("Better Man" seems a bit of a stretch since she did write it but didn't provide any vocals on it). I tend to be of the opinion that if it's just background vocals, they don't need to be included in an extras rankdown for the one doing the background vocals. Imo, you could swap out a background vocalist and replace them with another person and it wouldn't change the overall value of the song 9 times out of 10. Like, could you imagine .indulgecountry including Martina's "Whatever You Say" in a Sara Evans Extras rankdown, just because Sara's one of the background vocalists? It would barely make sense
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Post by fearlessarrow on May 23, 2020 22:43:41 GMT -5
My initial rationale in excluding songs like "Best Days of Your Life" and "This Is What You Came For" where she was a co-writer and the background vocalist on the song was solely due to how the credits worked - if enough people want to see them included I could certainly include them ("Better Man" seems a bit of a stretch since she did write it but didn't provide any vocals on it). I tend to be of the opinion that if it's just background vocals, they don't need to be included in an extras rankdown for the one doing the background vocals. Imo, you could swap out a background vocalist and replace them with another person and it wouldn't change the overall value of the song 9 times out of 10. Like, could you imagine .indulgecountry including Martina's "Whatever You Say" in a Sara Evans Extras rankdown, just because Sara's one of the background vocalists? It would barely make sense I think that's pretty much what separates "Two Is Better Than One"/"Highway Don't Care" from "Best Days of Your Life"/"This Is What You Came For" granted she had a hand in co-writing the latter two where as the former two she did not. I didn't particularly envision Taylor's rankdowns to be a RD of Taylor as a songwriter so for that reason I cut the latter two - now "Half of My Heart" and "Babe" are where she has less of a prominent role than "Two Is Better Than One" and "Highway Don't Care" - but "Babe" is included since Taylor is credited as a featured artist and while "Half of My Heart" isn't always credited as "John Mayer feat. Taylor Swift", I've seen enough instances of it to include it in the song list.
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Post by bboat11 on May 23, 2020 22:47:02 GMT -5
I tend to be of the opinion that if it's just background vocals, they don't need to be included in an extras rankdown for the one doing the background vocals. Imo, you could swap out a background vocalist and replace them with another person and it wouldn't change the overall value of the song 9 times out of 10. Like, could you imagine .indulgecountry including Martina's "Whatever You Say" in a Sara Evans Extras rankdown, just because Sara's one of the background vocalists? It would barely make sense I think that's pretty much what separates "Two Is Better Than One"/"Highway Don't Care" from "Best Days of Your Life"/"This Is What You Came For" granted she had a hand in co-writing the latter two where as the former two she did not. I didn't particularly envision Taylor's rankdowns to be a RD of Taylor as a songwriter so for that reason I cut the latter two - now "Half of My Heart" and "Babe" are where she has less of a prominent role than "Two Is Better Than One" and "Highway Don't Care" - but "Babe" is included since Taylor is credited as a featured artist and while "Half of My Heart" isn't always credited as "John Mayer feat. Taylor Swift", I've seen enough instances of it to include it in the song list. I mean, you could always remedy some of the confusion by just doing a Taylor Swift Songwriter Rankdown after this where we rank the songs that she wrote that ended up being recorded by other people!
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Post by fearlessarrow on May 23, 2020 22:55:18 GMT -5
I think that's pretty much what separates "Two Is Better Than One"/"Highway Don't Care" from "Best Days of Your Life"/"This Is What You Came For" granted she had a hand in co-writing the latter two where as the former two she did not. I didn't particularly envision Taylor's rankdowns to be a RD of Taylor as a songwriter so for that reason I cut the latter two - now "Half of My Heart" and "Babe" are where she has less of a prominent role than "Two Is Better Than One" and "Highway Don't Care" - but "Babe" is included since Taylor is credited as a featured artist and while "Half of My Heart" isn't always credited as "John Mayer feat. Taylor Swift", I've seen enough instances of it to include it in the song list. I mean, you could always remedy some of the confusion by just doing a Taylor Swift Songwriter Rankdown after this where we rank the songs that she wrote that ended up being recorded by other people! If you cut the ones that are already in this RD ("Both of Us", "Two Is Better Than One", and "Babe") that would be like 5 songs Edit: Actually 6! "This Is Really Happening" - Britni Hoover "You'll Always Find Your Way Back Home" - Hannah Montana "Bein' With My Baby" - Shea Fisher (this was an unreleased Taylor song that country singer Shea Fisher recorded in her 2015 album Shea) "Best Days of Your Life" - Kellie Pickler "This Is What You Came For" - Calvin Harris feat. Rihanna "Better Man" - Little Big Town
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Post by born on May 24, 2020 9:05:35 GMT -5
Anyone who tanks "Both of Us" is officially on my blacklist.
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Post by fearlessarrow on Jun 1, 2020 21:45:11 GMT -5
First reminder~
There's still plenty of time btw! I have 2 submissions so far. Tag List (please let me know if you would like to be tagged/removed from the tag list):
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Post by Fire on Jun 1, 2020 22:01:57 GMT -5
I'll try to squeeze it in.
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Post by fearlessarrow on Jun 6, 2020 22:23:39 GMT -5
2 week reminder...
But with the way lists are not coming in, I might have to extend it, lol. Tag List (please let me know if you would like to be tagged/removed from the tag list):
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Post by bboat11 on Jun 8, 2020 2:11:06 GMT -5
I made an Apple Music playlist! Similar to feary's Spotify playlist, the first 5 songs are missing from streaming, but the second 2/3 of the playlist will be complete... Apple Music Playlist:
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Post by fearlessarrow on Jun 13, 2020 16:44:37 GMT -5
So technically this is supposed to be the 1-week reminder, but since I only have 3 lists, I'm extending the deadline to Friday, July 3rd.
Please submit so we can move onto her singles RD 2.0 I know some of you have been waiting for it, so let's make that happen sooner rather than later! Tag List (please let me know if you would like to be tagged/removed from the tag list):
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Post by fearlessarrow on Jun 16, 2020 23:06:13 GMT -5
2.5 weeks until the new deadline!
Now up to 5 lists! Please submit so we can move onto her singles RD 2.0 I know some of you have been waiting for it, so let's make that happen sooner rather than later! Tag List (please let me know if you would like to be tagged/removed from the tag list):
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2020 23:08:21 GMT -5
Remember folks,Ronan is THE only right winner here
If you disagree Congratulations ur WRONG
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Post by fearlessarrow on Jun 16, 2020 23:33:59 GMT -5
Remember folks,Ronan is THE only right winner here If you disagree Congratulations ur WRONG *looks for Hamed's list with "Ronan" at #1 in my PM inbox*
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2020 23:45:53 GMT -5
Remember folks,Ronan is THE only right winner here If you disagree Congratulations ur WRONG *looks for Hamed's list with "Ronan" at #1 in my PM inbox* Chillllll I got time, I gotta relisten to a number of these before I send in a list.
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Post by fearlessarrow on Jun 17, 2020 0:23:29 GMT -5
*looks for Hamed's list with "Ronan" at #1 in my PM inbox* Chillllll I got time, I gotta relisten to a number of these before I send in a list.
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Post by bboat11 on Jun 17, 2020 2:41:29 GMT -5
Remember folks,Ronan is THE only right winner here If you disagree Congratulations ur WRONG Oh yeah! "Ronan"! Such a winner that it couldn't even make it onto an album 😂
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Post by fearlessarrow on Jun 17, 2020 7:55:07 GMT -5
Remember folks,Ronan is THE only right winner here If you disagree Congratulations ur WRONG Oh yeah! "Ronan"! Such a winner that it couldn't even make it onto an album 😂 "Ronan" is a charity single... (but I think what happened was that she released "Ronan" for the Stand Up To Cancer telethon after they were done choosing songs for Red)
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Post by taylor on Jun 17, 2020 11:42:51 GMT -5
Remember folks,Ronan is THE only right winner here If you disagree Congratulations ur WRONG Oh yeah! "Ronan"! Such a winner that it couldn't even make it onto an album 😂 girl it was a charity single!!!
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Post by ClevelandRox on Jun 17, 2020 12:02:03 GMT -5
Oh yeah! "Ronan"! Such a winner that it couldn't even make it onto an album 😂 Ronan is the original Soon You'll Get Better for me. Truly heartbreaking lyrics, but that doesn't make it the best song on the list. If anything, it just makes it more of a song I rarely want to listen to. 😢
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Post by taylor on Jun 17, 2020 12:53:12 GMT -5
Oh yeah! "Ronan"! Such a winner that it couldn't even make it onto an album 😂 Ronan is the original Soon You'll Get Better for me. Truly heartbreaking lyrics, but that doesn't make it the best song on the list. If anything, it just makes it more of a song I rarely want to listen to. 😢 SYGB is my favorite song from the parent album and will forever be my #1 from the album, and one of my favorite Taylor Swift songs, point blank. That said, I also can't listen to it hardly. It made me cry a river first listen thinking of my aunt. SYGB spoke to every one of my feelings. And "you'll get better soon, cause you have to" breaks me because my aunt had passed away. I agree on Ronan tho. It's going to be high up on my list (definitely Top 5) but most likely not #1. There are slightly (SLIGHTLY) better songs on the list imo
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