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Post by House Lannister on Jul 9, 2020 17:13:13 GMT -5
90. Comforter---This is the Shai song that should have left first. Just leave If I Ever Fall in Love Again alone until at least the 30s, OK?
89. One Last Cry---Generic R&B fodder
88. When She Cries---Generic country fodder. If there were good country songs for a year, I'll fight for them. But this one is just so there that even I joined in to an extent.
87. Cat's in the Cradle---Maybe it helps I didn't hear Ooh Child. But I definitely remember Chapin's classic Cat's in the Cradle, a great song about what happens when the father has no time for the son...and how it affects things years later. Ugly Kid Joe took that song and did similar things to it that 5 Finger Death Punch did to Offspring's Gone Away. Make it an one note song and throw anything that sticks (I swear they used the music from You Don't Know Jack, the one where you're running out of time).
86. Saving Forever for You---I wasn't big on BH90210. But this felt OK (I imagine they had her perform this at the Peach Pit). Her vocals carried the day...but of course it's not as good as Let's Hear It for the Boy.
85. Have I Told You Lately---Yes, for the billionth time, Rod. As a general rule, unplugged songs are worse than the album ones because they're more slowed down and drawn out. There are exceptions of course (maybe there's one in this rankdown?).
84. Boom Shake the Room---Yes, I like fun. Too bad too many of you didn't. Would make for a fine doubleheader with Smith's Firestarter (both songs have an edge to them).
83. Alright---Lived up to its name, Kris Kross. It's no Jump, but it's not wicketa-wicketa-wicketa-wack.
82. One Woman---Song never really took off, but it's decent. You better treat Don't Walk Away right, or we're gonna have problems.
81. Knockin Boots---I get what H-Town was going for here, but it just didn't work. This was the other knockoff I was referring to earlier (I hope the original sticks around a while).
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Post by CF15 on Jul 9, 2020 18:29:14 GMT -5
I was pretty bored, so I took it upon myself to calculate the standard deviations of every song revealed so far. I plan to continue to keep track of them as we go. Can't say I'm surprised at the results thus far, other than "Knockin' Da Boots" having such a relatively high SD. I imagine "Cats in the Cradle" is the only one that will end up having one of the 20 highest SD's overall. {Spoiler}"Cats in the Cradle" (26.8756) "How Do You Talk To An Angel" (24.0936) "Angel" (23.4722) "Knockin' Da Boots" (22.5317) "Dazzey Duks" (22.4126) "Have I Told You Lately" (22.1574) "Ooh Child" (21.3101) "Boom! Shake the Room" (20.9345) "To Love Somebody" (20.2576) "The Right Kind of Love" (20.2351) "Saving Forever for You" (20.0528) "Forever in Love" (19.9374) "One Last Cry" (19.5075) "Alright" (19.3313) "Nothin' My Love Can't Fix" (18.2383) "Whoot, There It Is" (17.1445) "Comforter" (16.5991) "When She Cries" (15.9495) "One Woman" (14.4518) "Baby, I'm Yours" (14.0382)
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Post by Doc Indie Party Rock on Jul 9, 2020 23:34:42 GMT -5
#90. Comforter - Shai Pleasant enough for an R&B jam, but it doesn't really take melodic chances. At least the atmosphere is romantic.
#89. One Last Cry - Brian McKnight This one is much better. Sounds like Brian McKight's version of a Michael Bolton. In other words it has a whiteboy pop ballad vibe.
#88. When She Cries - Restless Heart Hopefully at least the Country fans stepped up and upgraded this song? This had a rally nice melody in the chorus, and the kind heartfelt lyrics that I can appreciate.
#87. Cat's In The Cradle - Ugly Kid Joe The worst part about this band is that some considered them Glam Metal. They didn't have the look, nor the sound, but Just look them up on wikipedia to see what I mean? This song is alright. The biggest mistake people make is comparing a cover to an original. At least this cover stays more or less in the vain of the original. Would you rather an EDM cover? BTW I don't dig the original. True Story.
#86. Saving Forever For You - Shanice Won't be tanking anything this pleasant sounding.
#85. Have I Told You Lately - Rod Stewart I didn't even know this was a cover...and frankly I don't care, because it has nothing to do with Rod Stewart. I enjoy Rod Stewart's vocals and he did a wonderful job with a Piano ballad. So I looked up the original. is it Van Morrison? I didn't like that at all, but if it's Elvis Presley then I return to my original reason. I like Elvis Presley's vocals better than Rod Stewart's so its a better song, but Rod still does the best cover.
#84. Boom! Shake The Room - DJ Jazzy Jeff & The Fresh Prince This is no "Parents Just Don't Understand". Lyrics are alright, but I didn't care for Will's tones this time around. He sounds angrier than usual.
#83. Alright - Kris Kross ft. Supercat This are not vocal tones I can easily sit through, but there is still so much crap floating around in my tank. At least you all did me the favor to kick out my #90 song. Thanks for that.
#82. One Woman - Jade The music was very nice here. This one is for the chicks to send to the guys. So there is huge red alert when I'm the 3rd highest ranker for a genre that isn't even one of my favorites.
#81. Kncokin' Da Boots - H-Town This one is barely passable. Nice lyrics and tones, but it's musically challenged. It just relies on a few notes to keep the listener interested, and I don't think it achieves that.
Mediocre set. No big losses. The only WTF rank is Rod Stewart.
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Post by Doc Indie Party Rock on Jul 9, 2020 23:41:59 GMT -5
So I checked out the stats in the cradle. I believe this only take into consideration the closeness to PULSE not to the actual YE List? I usually get closer to YE list, and miles apart from PULSE ranks. I currently have a 41. Which is perfect. At least you know you dealing with the real me ,and not a fake list.
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Post by Juanca on Jul 9, 2020 23:46:31 GMT -5
100. Whoot, There It Is (100): Interesting that this was the original song! I thought this was a cheap cover. The effects, melody, production were really BAD. Clear last position to me. I do think the cover is a bop, though... 99. Forever in Love (63): Not surprised, but this didn't deserve to be this low when there are so many other songs with worse melodies, production effects, or vocals (and yes sax sounds much better than certain singers...) I really liked the main melody in the chorus. This made my personal top 10. 98. Nothin' My Love Can't Fix (80): The chorus and pre-chorus melody -and background vocals- are catchy enough to escape my bottom 20. 97. To Love Somebody (93): I can like and tolerate a lot of Bolotin stuff, but this was just too much. Especially couple years after a smoother, chiller cover was played in couple radio stations: 96. Dazzey Dukks (90): The production, sound effects, vocals were pretty bad and almost parody like. But at least the melody was a bit catchy to escape my bottom 10. 95. The Right Kind Of Love (75): This wasn't that bad. The production and melody resembled Hall & Oates and other similar early 80s Pop&B stuff. 94. Ooh Child (87): The original melody is great, so I appreciate Dino helping me discover that song this was however an unnecessary cover that pales vs the original 93. Baby I'm Yours (83): guys harmonize well, but this song didn't have that great of melody or production. Correct one is out first. 92. How Do You Talk to an Angel (85): Never understood how this got to #1... I didn't like it back then, don't like it now. Vocals are pretty awful. Melody is okay, and production is probably the most interesting thing in this (thanks, saxophone!). 91. Angel (34): Huh?!!!! Don't get the hate at all. Far too good and emotional vocals instead of Ugly Kid Joe's ugly ones? Anyway. I really liked this back then, and still do. It peaked at #2 in my personal chart -and made the top of my Latin chart. I really like his passionate vocals, and the classic melody and instrumental. Plus, this is a karaoke classic 90. Comforter (67): I liked this more than I thought I would coming to this RD. Very nice vocals and harmonies, smooth and classic instrumental, and decent melody. Should've escaped bottom 15 at least. 89. One Last Cry (76): Pretty good vocals, but the production and melody was a bit too boring/syrupy. 88. When She Cries (68): The only country representative and tanked? Geez. Harmless, pleasant melody, vocals, and instrumental. 87. Cat's In The Cradle (94): Finally! How did this unnecessary cover that made the original sound better escape bottom 10? 86. Saving Forever For You (82): I remember liking the tender melody of this song back in the day, but now that I heard it again after decades, this sounded far too cheesy and bland, and Shanice doesn't sound that good either
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Post by CF15 on Jul 10, 2020 1:31:01 GMT -5
100. Whoot, There It Is (100): Interesting that this was the original song! I thought this was a cheap cover. The effects, melody, production were really BAD. Clear last position to me. I do think the cover is a bop, though... I do believe this version was released first, but the Tag Team version started production of their version first. I guess 95 South just rushed the production phase faster for it to be released first, which would fully explain why it sounds lazier and less interesting. I'm not 100% sure on that, though.
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Post by Red on Jul 10, 2020 7:17:04 GMT -5
I expected one of my bottom tens to escape the bottom twenty.
I was not expecting UB40 to do the same.
"Alright" isn't in the range where I would have been annoyed with a top half song going out this early, so it's fine.
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Post by Unhinged on Jul 10, 2020 8:22:46 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2020 8:32:57 GMT -5
And why am I not surprised at the 2 highest ranks for this.
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Post by Unhinged on Jul 10, 2020 8:42:55 GMT -5
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Post by Unhinged on Jul 10, 2020 9:05:32 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2020 9:09:06 GMT -5
This is overhated IMO. I think that it is a pretty nice cover.
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Post by Leo ✔ on Jul 10, 2020 9:22:32 GMT -5
The Exposé song was a nice discovery. As soon I see some hate for UB40, I realized that would've been my first top 10 loss.
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Post by walt91 on Jul 10, 2020 9:46:44 GMT -5
Nothing of importance has been lost so far
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Post by Unhinged on Jul 10, 2020 9:53:37 GMT -5
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Post by Az Paynter on Jul 10, 2020 10:06:27 GMT -5
Aladdin out already? Gee, what world are some of you living in? :sip2:
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Post by Unhinged on Jul 10, 2020 10:33:31 GMT -5
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Post by Leo ✔ on Jul 10, 2020 10:45:30 GMT -5
I expected this to be my first top 10 to fall.
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Post by Unhinged on Jul 10, 2020 12:05:45 GMT -5
Back Monday with the next set, have a great weekend!
Revealed so far:
"Lately" - Jodeci "Good Enough" - Bobby Brown "In the Still of the Nite" - Boyz II Men "Sweat (A La La La La Long)" - Inner Circle "Love Is" - Vanessa Williams and Brian McKnight "Reason to Believe" - Rod Stewart "A Whole New World" - Peabo Bryson and Regina Belle "Can't Help Falling in Love" - UB40 "I'll Never Get Over You (Getting Over Me)" - Exposé "Two Steps Behind" - Def Leppard "Knockin' da Boots" - H-Town "One Woman" - Jade "Alright" - Kris Kross "Boom! Shake the Room" - DJ Jazzy Jeff & The Fresh Prince "Have I Told You Lately" - Rod Stewart "Saving Forever for You" - Shanice "Cat's in the Cradle" - Ugly Kid Joe "When She Cries" - Restless Heart "One Last Cry" - Brian McKnight "Comforter" - Shai "Angel" - Jon Secada "How Do You Talk to an Angel" - The Heights "Baby I'm Yours" - Shai "Ooh Child" - Dino "The Right Kind of Love" - Jeremy Jordan "Dazzey Duks" - Duice "To Love Somebody" - Michael Bolton "Nothin' My Love Can't Fix" - Joey Lawrence "Forever in Love" - Kenny G "Whoot, There It Is" - 95 South
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Post by Red on Jul 10, 2020 12:27:50 GMT -5
I will always have a soft spot for Elvis' "Can't Help Falling in Love" (a sentiment that I know is not totally shared by my fellow UB40 tankers), which is why UB40's take on the song bothers me more than their other covers do. It's not particularly worse than their other bad covers, but it will always bother me more.
The film scene version of "A Whole New World" is one of my favorite Disney songs. This version is basically just "Beauty and the Beast", but with Regina Belle instead of Celine.
"Reason to Believe", meanwhile, is about 150x better than I was expecting, given what his other song in 1993 is. It's not the studio version of the song, but it's about as good as Rod Stewart can be in 1993.
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Post by CF15 on Jul 10, 2020 13:31:39 GMT -5
Nice to see I've lost three more of my bottom ten. I was wondering when they'd show up. The other two are going to be contenders for high SD's, though I honestly did not think either of them would have that much support, but I was sadly wrong upon reading the conversations here. 80. "Two Steps Behind" [40]: This was nice, but I expected it to do poorly. At least it escaped the bottom twenty. I like how I'm the third-highest rank after the two obvious ones, but it's nowhere near as high as theirs. 79. "I'll Never Get Over You (Getting Over Me)" [36]: Robbed! I can relate to this song, but of course it's too slow to do well in this rankdown, so I guess I'll count my blessing that this wasn't in the bottom twenty. 78. "(I Can't Help) Falling In Love With You" [92]: Finally! Not only is this cover so lame and unnecessary, but the fact that it kept "Whoomp (There It Is)" from ever reaching #1 is truly tragic. Good riddance. 77. "A Whole New World" [51]: This somehow missed my top 50. Though I am known to "like almost every song on the list". Aladdin's theme, how does it deserve to be so low? Oh, right, it's slow. 76. "Reason To Believe" [76]: Hell yeah, I finally got a perfect ranking! I made a last-minute decision that I preferred this over the other Rod Stewart song, though evidently not by much. Still definitely a passable song, though. 75. "Love Is" [33]: My highest loss. I'm glad it escaped the bottom twenty-five, as my expectations for it were not high, because, again, slow music. This is a very nice and nostalgic melody, for me. 74. "Sweat (A La La La La Long)" [61]: Huh? Now this one I definitely did not expect this to be out so soon. What did reggae fusion ever do to you? This was a nice song, but not nice enough to escape my bottom 40. It still should've done better, though. And I better not see their other song in the next 3 sets. 73. "In the Still of the Nite" [97]: About. Damn. Time. How did this make it so far? I'm also shocked that I'm the lowest rank. No, I didn't tank it because it's A Capella, I tanked it because I felt so much nothing from it that I couldn't even get through it in full. When we rank "One Sweet Day" in 1996 (if that hasn't already been done), Boyz II Men will get an entirely different treatment from me. 72. "Good Enough" [50]: This was good enough (for my top 50, at least). Not surprised to see it here, but not terribly upset, either. Though it wouldn't hurt for it to at least outlast Aerosmith. 71. "Lately" [93]: Huh? This almost escaped the bottom 30? Anyway, this was the annoying kind of boring. I expected more than three bottom-ten ranks besides myself, so that's an unpleasant surprise. But at least it's finally out.
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Post by House Lannister on Jul 10, 2020 14:26:36 GMT -5
Down to two bottom 10s, not half bad:
80. Two steps Behind: Bit sluggish for Def Leppard who are usually better for their uptempo numbers. Although the story behind it IS touching.
79. I'll Never Get Over You: Solid vocals from Expose probably deserved a better song to go with it.
78. Poor Elvis Cover: Well Red, I too am a fan of Elvis's original version. What happened here by UB40 took the song, drained all its emotion and energy and threw in some horns. Worse than all the tropical house versions of Fast Car. Oh, and don't bother watching the film that used it as its theme song. Sliver is OK, but it never goes anywhere.
77. Whole New World: Yes, I remember the Aladdin song. But it worked a lot better in the movie than here. The lyrics come across as being a bit syrupy.
76. Reason to Believe: Rod Stewart just wasn't that good then. I think his peak was in the 70s to early 80s. Forever Young might come the closest he's come since then. This was nowhere near close.
75. Love Is: The song's a bit generic, but credit the piano and Vanessa's vocals for it ending up where it is.
74. Sweat: Pleasant sounding, but also a bit dumb. I liked their other one better (but not a ton better).
73. In the Still of the Nite: Look, I do have a soft spot for Boyz 2 Men. Their vocals are on point. But they had no good reason to do this cover.
72. Good Enough: I tried to block out my issues with Bobby Brown and just judge the song. It was OK.
71. Lately: And here's the Unplugged song that I liked. They had some solid vocals at work here and this was a fairly good take on the original.
I'm kind of surprised by the love shared by both songs left in my bottom 10. I thought they were no great shakes and would simply vanish by now. Ah well, maybe Monday then.
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Post by CF15 on Jul 10, 2020 14:31:13 GMT -5
I bolded the ones from the last set of ten. And, of course, UB40 destroys the competition with its very high SD. Could "Three Little Pigs" still top it? Also, I like how "Two Steps Behind" and "I'll Never Get Over You (Getting Over Me)" are only 0.0002 apart. {SD update}"(I Can't Help) Falling In Love With You" (32.793) "Cats in the Cradle" (26.8756) "A Whole New World" (25.8157) "How Do You Talk To An Angel" (24.0936) "Love Is" (24.0339) "Angel" (23.4722) "Knockin' Da Boots" (22.5317) "Dazzey Duks" (22.4126) "Have I Told You Lately" (22.1574) "Two Steps Behind" (21.8879) "I'll Never Get Over You (Getting Over Me)" (21.8877) "Lately" (21.4592) "Ooh Child" (21.3101) "Boom! Shake the Room" (20.9345) "To Love Somebody" (20.2576) "The Right Kind of Love" (20.2351) "Saving Forever for You" (20.0528) "Reason To Believe" (20.0081) "Forever in Love" (19.9374) "One Last Cry" (19.5075) "Sweat (A La La La La Long)" (19.4358) "Alright" (19.3313) "In the Still of the Nite" (18.661) "Nothin' My Love Can't Fix" (18.2383) "Whoot, There It Is" (17.1445) "Comforter" (16.5991) "Good Enough" (16.3428) "When She Cries" (15.9495) "One Woman" (14.4518) "Baby, I'm Yours" (14.0382)
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2020 14:35:54 GMT -5
Great way to end the reveals today.
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Post by singingrulebritannia on Jul 10, 2020 15:05:30 GMT -5
I'm surprised "Reason to Believe" is my only top 50 loss so far; usually I've dropped 2-4 more by now. But yea, Rod's original RtB recording is so good, and this version doesn't ruin it for me like the several other covers here.
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