Billboard Hot 100: 07/25/2020

[GP]

[kierz7]

Jul 15, 2020 8:03:51 GMT -5 GP said:

Exactly!

I don’t how you all do it.

None of you are getting paid for these predictions, but I suppose the love affair with the charts is the sole reason why.

Stan-Twitter has turned a once harmless and actually fun venture/hobby, that he’s been doing since 2014, into indentured servitude.

The amount of direct DEATH-THREATS ‘Simon’ received during the “Say So; #1” predictions week was horrific. 🥴 🥴 🥴

[shaz196]

Twitter really has to do something about some of these stan accounts, the amount of threats, harassment and mocking of deaths that come from them is unacceptable.

[kierz7]

Jul 15, 2020 8:22:51 GMT -5 shaz196 said:

Twitter really has to do something about some of these stan accounts, the amount of threats, harassment and mocking of deaths that come from them is unacceptable.

These stans. LITERALLY live vicariously through their favourite musical artists/celebrities and practically take on any offence or insults that is directed towards them.

It’s absolutely psychopathic!

There are a plethora of psychologists and psychiatrists who have done multiple studies on the correlation between social media and ‘stan-culture’ and the toxicity that it breeds.

Then we wonder a lot of young people today suffer from debilitating mental health issues; it’s no surprise when the aforementioned exists.

[iamsorare]

Simm's predictions this year were off many times.I understand it...we have so many other people who do predictions every week .the fun with the predictions will not stop..

[dremolus - solarpunk]

Barbz are the worst, no contest. Have fun celebrating your mediocre queen

[divasummer]

I'm 43 and started reading Billboard and other chart/radio magazines when I was 10.
I remember I used to get fired up because I would see a song flying up the airplay chart but never heard it on the radio.
As a kid I didn't get why the Top songs at times weren't heard a lot but I would hear prior singles more.
This has been an ongoing issue. Maybe not as extreme but people want to hear the hits and now it's just reported more accurately.
That's probably why there's a decent amount of forgotten hits because they didn't get all that much play to begin with.
Labels paying station to report what they wanted was pretty common as the stations were still playing prior singles.
Again I was a kid but that's what I noticed.

[strongerq]

Album	Artist	Day 1	Day 2	Day 3	Day 4	Day 5	Day 6	Day 7
Carter V	Lil Wayne	49,469,116	30,039,134	19,224,681	21,322,277	18,209,086	15,989,633	14,141,864
Legends Never Die	Juice WRLD	47,849,132	30,786,059	23,133,726	22,473,754	20,559,467	-	-

After 5 days 'Legends Never Die' has 6,537,844 streams advantage on Spotify US.

On YouTube (which Carter V lacked for the most part), Juice has 59.6M streams Worldwide. The US vs Global ratio on Spotify is 65.8%, same was with his last album DRFL. BUT YouTube is more Global oriented platform so it should be 40-55% (23.84M - 32.78M).

So after 5 days Carter V with 40% of streams coming from Spotify, LND 46.4% (percentage of DRFL)+YouTube:

Depending on the YouTube Us percentage - Carter V leads with  9,747,161(40%)  or LND leads with 807,161 (55%)

It all depends on how well he does on AM compared to his last album & how many of the YouTube streams are from the U.S.A.

[wavey.]

The stan twitter fanbases, not just one, are all toxic. Simon just doesn't have time anymore. Also, yes, I'm sure he is tired of the constant attacks on his predictions as well.

[divasummer]

Jul 15, 2020 8:28:58 GMT -5 kierz7 said:

Jul 15, 2020 8:22:51 GMT -5 shaz196 said:

Twitter really has to do something about some of these stan accounts, the amount of threats, harassment and mocking of deaths that come from them is unacceptable.

These stans. LITERALLY live vicariously through their favourite musical artists/celebrities and practically take on any offence or insults that is directed towards them.

It’s absolutely psychopathic!

There are a plethora of psychologists and psychiatrists who have done multiple studies on the correlation between social media and ‘stan-culture’ and the toxicity that it breeds.

Then we wonder a lot of young people today suffer from debilitating mental health issues; it’s no surprise when the aforementioned exists.

Oh Lord I think the word used should be pathetic.
I know that sounds harsh but if you have that much time on your hands to hate on someone doing a chart prediction..
Get a hobby, take a walk, dance, donate your time......

[Rose "Payola" Nylund]

I don’t get why predictions are so important to everyone, especially people who need to troll or insult someone who doesn’t predict correctly. The actual chart comes every week at almost the same time. Nothing else should even matter.

[strongerq]

Jul 15, 2020 8:22:51 GMT -5 shaz196 said:

Twitter really has to do something about some of these stan accounts, the amount of threats, harassment and mocking of deaths that come from them is unacceptable.

The thing that Twitter really needs is an option to disable videos in the replies. I am tired of seeing fancams in replies on posts from people in Sport/Movie/Gaming industry etc.

[Rose "Payola" Nylund]

Jul 15, 2020 8:47:13 GMT -5 divasummer said:

I'm 43 and started reading Billboard and other chart/radio magazines when I was 10.
I remember I used to get fired up because I would see a song flying up the airplay chart but never heard it on the radio.
As a kid I didn't get why the Top songs at times weren't heard a lot but I would hear prior singles more.
This has been an ongoing issue. Maybe not as extreme but people want to hear the hits and now it's just reported more accurately.
That's probably why there's a decent amount of forgotten hits because they didn't get all that much play to begin with.
Labels paying station to report what they wanted was pretty common as the stations were still playing prior singles.
Again I was a kid but that's what I noticed.

I remember that too - but I also learned that hits can be regional, or even songs can be hits in most places other than where you live. In any case, if a song was a hit in several regions, it’s enough to give it some placement on a national chart. Of course this was before the internet when it wasn’t as easy to check how legit these hits were.

[Baby Yoda Hot100Fan]

Jul 15, 2020 9:12:26 GMT -5 strongerq said:

Jul 15, 2020 8:22:51 GMT -5 shaz196 said:

Twitter really has to do something about some of these stan accounts, the amount of threats, harassment and mocking of deaths that come from them is unacceptable.

The thing that Twitter really needs is an option to disable videos in the replies. I am tired of seeing fancams in replies on posts from people in Sport/Movie/Gaming industry etc.

Disable videos altogether. Hard to believe that someone is not responsible for the content of the video they used, since they chose to post it. I think a lot of you get what I'm referring to.

[Baby Yoda Hot100Fan]

Audience gains continued to be on the low side for a second day.

kworb's Billboard Radio Songs Estimates 2020/07/15

1(=) The Weeknd - Blinding Lights 145.37(-1.03)
2(=) Harry Styles - Adore You 124.99(-0.26)
3(=) Megan Thee Stallion - Savage Remix (feat. Beyoncé) 104.04(-0.85)
4(=) DaBaby - ROCKSTAR (feat. Roddy Ricch) 103.65(+1.19)
5(+2) Dua Lipa - Break My Heart 96.90(+0.81)
6(-1) Dua Lipa - Don't Start Now 96.63(-0.61)
7(-1) Post Malone - Circles 96.57(-0.13)
8(+1) SAINt JHN - Roses (Imanbek Remix) 94.92(+0.74)
9(-1) Doja Cat - Say So 93.41(-2.01)
10(=) Justin Bieber - Intentions (feat. Quavo) 92.25(-1.34)

11(=) Harry Styles - Watermelon Sugar 85.91(+2.66)

12(=) Lewis Capaldi - Before You Go 83.33(+0.62)

17(=) Jack Harlow - WHATS POPPIN (Remix) [feat. DaBaby, Tory Lanez & Lil Wayne] 63.25(+0.58)

26(=) Miranda Lambert - Bluebird 51.88(+0.84)

37(=) Maddie & Tae - Die From A Broken Heart 41.99(+0.64)

79(+1) Trevor Daniel & Selena Gomez - Past Life 22.02(+0.98)

-(-) Rauw Alejandro & Camilo - Tattoo (Remix) 3.27(+2.62)

[kierz7]

Jul 15, 2020 10:18:45 GMT -5 Baby Yoda Hot100Fan said:

Audience gains continued to be on the low side for a second day.

kworb's Billboard Radio Songs Estimates 2020/07/15

1(=) The Weeknd - Blinding Lights 145.37(-1.03)

Is this the first sub-1M loss for “BL” since... Well, ever?

I haven’t tracked it the last few days so I’m not sure and it’s a bit surprising.

That said... FINALLY!

[Choco]

The Pop update for "Blinding Lights" was finally a big loss. Love the track but it's time lol.

It will be a while before something catches up to it on the airplay chart tho. "Adore You" is on the way down and "Savage" has peaked on Urban and RHY.

[iHype.]

Jul 15, 2020 8:47:13 GMT -5 divasummer said:

I'm 43 and started reading Billboard and other chart/radio magazines when I was 10.
I remember I used to get fired up because I would see a song flying up the airplay chart but never heard it on the radio.
As a kid I didn't get why the Top songs at times weren't heard a lot but I would hear prior singles more.
This has been an ongoing issue. Maybe not as extreme but people want to hear the hits and now it's just reported more accurately.
That's probably why there's a decent amount of forgotten hits because they didn't get all that much play to begin with.
Labels paying station to report what they wanted was pretty common as the stations were still playing prior singles.
Again I was a kid but that's what I noticed.

I don't think anyone would doubt plenty of hits were somewhat inflated when there was no technology used to track consumption. I don't think they blatantly made up the chart or completely faked songs being hits, but I'm sure many songs that went #1 or top 3 decades ago would've likely peaked instead at #5 or #8 or even #12 type positions if had they had electronic tracking and real numbers available.

Also if I'm correct, ClearChannel/iHeartRadio didn't start owning a majority of radio stations until this century, so nowadays it's hard to not hear a song that's top 10 or even top 20 on radio no matter where you live for the most part because the same company is owning all the stations nationwide. I imagine when it wasn't like that it was more frequent to not hear hits in some cities, because many radio stations belonged to different companies. There's much more differing agendas and executions between stations when there's way more different companies involved. For example if a new single gets an hourly iHeart radio deal it’ll basically be played in every notable city. Whereas back then if a new song started getting big airplay there could very well be radio stations in some big cities not playing it yet since they were under different companies.

[GP]

Sim ending his predictions... kind of the end on an era tho

[Golden Bluebird]

Jul 15, 2020 8:28:58 GMT -5 kierz7 said:

Jul 15, 2020 8:22:51 GMT -5 shaz196 said:

Twitter really has to do something about some of these stan accounts, the amount of threats, harassment and mocking of deaths that come from them is unacceptable.

These stans. LITERALLY live vicariously through their favourite musical artists/celebrities and practically take on any offence or insults that is directed towards them.

It’s absolutely psychopathic!

There are a plethora of psychologists and psychiatrists who have done multiple studies on the correlation between social media and ‘stan-culture’ and the toxicity that it breeds.

Then we wonder a lot of young people today suffer from debilitating mental health issues; it’s no surprise when the aforementioned exists.

I mean, I don't think the reason why so many young people suffer from mental health issues is necessarily due to celebrity worship. I'm sure celebrity worship does impact the mental health of certain segments of the youth, but there are far bigger issues that have contributed to their mental health like the massive student loan debt problem, rising income inequality, and the looming threat of climate change that is going to affect current and future generations.

[Baby Yoda Hot100Fan]

^They are now more ways to get bullied than ever before.

[kcdawg13]

I said this over on r/popheads a few days ago but I'll say it here, I was watching the whole Naya Rivera drama and how much stan twitter bullied the rescue teams and told them her blood was on their hands for not saving her in time or some other shit like that. Stan Twitter overall needs a large kick in the ass and some mass banning needs to happen, these "stans" from all walks of life (I'm not calling out any in particular) bully and berate anyone who goes against their fave, even predictors like Simon who have no bias and are just predicting the Hot 100. They make up conspiracy theories and cause needless drama because most of them are teenagers that don't do anything else but post on Twitter all day.

[lazer]

Stan Twitter is a disease. They have no logic and reason whatsoever.

[Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ]

Jul 15, 2020 10:22:17 GMT -5 kierz7 said:

Jul 15, 2020 10:18:45 GMT -5 Baby Yoda Hot100Fan said:

Audience gains continued to be on the low side for a second day.

kworb's Billboard Radio Songs Estimates 2020/07/15

1(=) The Weeknd - Blinding Lights 145.37(-1.03)

Is this the first sub-1M loss for “BL” since... Well, ever?

since

06/29 (-1.07)
06/28 (-1.04)

[daysintheeast]

http://instagr.am/p/CCq7DVRJVF3

Popstar and Rockstar in the top 10 next week?

[Enigma.]

Lmao at the title but nice that DJ Khaled is pop artist these days.

[thegreatdivine]

TikTok fumbled a bag.

[thegreatdivine]

Jul 15, 2020 12:17:20 GMT -5 daysintheeast said:

http://instagr.am/p/CCq7DVRJVF3

Popstar and Rockstar in the top 10 next week?

Hopefully.

[85la]

Jul 15, 2020 10:49:03 GMT -5 iHype. said:

Jul 15, 2020 8:47:13 GMT -5 divasummer said:

I'm 43 and started reading Billboard and other chart/radio magazines when I was 10.
I remember I used to get fired up because I would see a song flying up the airplay chart but never heard it on the radio.
As a kid I didn't get why the Top songs at times weren't heard a lot but I would hear prior singles more.
This has been an ongoing issue. Maybe not as extreme but people want to hear the hits and now it's just reported more accurately.
That's probably why there's a decent amount of forgotten hits because they didn't get all that much play to begin with.
Labels paying station to report what they wanted was pretty common as the stations were still playing prior singles.
Again I was a kid but that's what I noticed.

I don't think anyone would doubt plenty of hits were somewhat inflated when there was no technology used to track consumption. I don't think they blatantly made up the chart or completely faked songs being hits, but I'm sure many songs that went #1 or top 3 decades ago would've likely peaked instead at #5 or #8 or even #12 type positions if had they had electronic tracking and real numbers available.

Also if I'm correct, ClearChannel/iHeartRadio didn't start owning a majority of radio stations until this century, so nowadays it's hard to not hear a song that's top 10 or even top 20 on radio no matter where you live for the most part because the same company is owning all the stations nationwide. I imagine when it wasn't like that it was more frequent to not hear hits in some cities, because many radio stations belonged to different companies. There's much more differing agendas and executions between stations when there's way more different companies involved. For example if a new single gets an hourly iHeart radio deal it’ll basically be played in every notable city. Whereas back then if a new song started getting big airplay there could very well be radio stations in some big cities not playing it yet since they were under different companies.

Yep, in fact it all goes back to the Telecommunications Act of 1996, an oft-cited benchmark largely responsible for enabling this trend.

[atg]

Of course, as toosie slide continues to fall, we’re gonna get ‘another one’ to replace it