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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Jul 15, 2020 20:53:12 GMT -5
Not circles being #9 without the album bomb 😩 It seems likely that Juice Wrld's album could match Scorpion with 4 top 10 debuts. Otherwise, that's a major album bomb. Regarding Circles, Before You Go could have been #18 with Juice Wrld. High Fashion is definitely going recurrent as well as possibly Chasin' You and P$ssy Fairy. I do hope for a 6ix9ine-free Hot 100. |
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Post by renfield75 on Jul 15, 2020 21:08:08 GMT -5
How do we live in a world where toosie slide went number 1 but hotline bling didn’t I forget the exact specifics but Hotline Bling actually SHOULD have gotten a week at #1. The week the video came out, which obviously had massive hype and views, there was an Apple exclusive streaming deal or something like that and the views weren't reported so they weren't factored into that week's chart. As I recall it was sitting at #2 and had the video views been counted, it would absolutely have been #1. It's not Billboard's fault if the numbers aren't reported, but that's one case where a song literally deserved number one and didn't get it. Does anyone remember the details? iHype.? thegreatdivine? |
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Post by daysintheeast on Jul 15, 2020 21:16:14 GMT -5
How do we live in a world where toosie slide went number 1 but hotline bling didn’t I forget the exact specifics but Hotline Bling actually SHOULD have gotten a week at #1. The week the video came out, which obviously had massive hype and views, there was an Apple exclusive streaming deal or something like that and the views weren't reported so they weren't factored into that week's chart. As I recall it was sitting at #2 and had the video views been counted, it would absolutely have been #1. It's not Billboard's fault if the numbers aren't reported, but that's one case where a song literally deserved number one and didn't get it. Does anyone remember the details? iHype.? thegreatdivine? Yaa it was an apple exclusive and either the label or apple themselves didn't report the streams to billboard smh. also remember the weeknd putting out multiple remixes to keep his number 1 lol |
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Post by iHype. on Jul 15, 2020 21:20:43 GMT -5
How do we live in a world where toosie slide went number 1 but hotline bling didn’t I forget the exact specifics but Hotline Bling actually SHOULD have gotten a week at #1. The week the video came out, which obviously had massive hype and views, there was an Apple exclusive streaming deal or something like that and the views weren't reported so they weren't factored into that week's chart. As I recall it was sitting at #2 and had the video views been counted, it would absolutely have been #1. It's not Billboard's fault if the numbers aren't reported, but that's one case where a song literally deserved number one and didn't get it. Does anyone remember the details? iHype. ? thegreatdivine ? The video was released as an Apple exclusive (he was under a streaming deal with them from 2015-2016) and Apple did not report video streams at the time. They ended up beginning to report them weeks later once they realized the chart impact the streams had. The race for #1 was very close and obviously the video probably had millions of streams. I remember the video was already viral that week, and ofcourse Views broke the album streaming record on Apple Music alone the first week just months later. He was always pulling huge streams on Apple Music alone, ever since it debuted that Summer 2015. |
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Post by Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ on Jul 15, 2020 21:24:10 GMT -5
I forget the exact specifics but Hotline Bling actually SHOULD have gotten a week at #1. The week the video came out, which obviously had massive hype and views, there was an Apple exclusive streaming deal or something like that and the views weren't reported so they weren't factored into that week's chart. As I recall it was sitting at #2 and had the video views been counted, it would absolutely have been #1. It's not Billboard's fault if the numbers aren't reported, but that's one case where a song literally deserved number one and didn't get it. Does anyone remember the details? iHype. ? thegreatdivine ? Yaa it was an apple exclusive and either the label or apple themselves didn't report the streams to billboard smh. also remember the weeknd putting out multiple remixes to keep his number 1 lol Remixes featuring Eminem & Nicki were released 9 days before the Hotline's music video. |
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Post by cedric on Jul 15, 2020 21:44:07 GMT -5
Not circles being #9 without the album bomb 😩 Dior predicted at #55, shouldn't it be going recurrent as well? 21 weeks in, losing airplay, and it'll be bleeding in streaming post-album bomb. If it does, I think that would be the biggest recurrent dropout since Plug Walk's exit from #15 during Scorpion week (aside from Christmas songs). Also looks like I Hope is finally replacing The Bones as the country #1 this week. At least One Margarita wasn't able to do it last week. |
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Post by daysintheeast on Jul 15, 2020 21:53:48 GMT -5
Yaa it was an apple exclusive and either the label or apple themselves didn't report the streams to billboard smh. also remember the weeknd putting out multiple remixes to keep his number 1 lol Remixes featuring Eminem & Nicki were released 9 days before the Hotline's music video. Yes it was for the battle the previous week I believe |
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Jul 15, 2020 21:55:12 GMT -5
The new BENEE song is interesting. Surprised by the Kenny Beats credit, I wonder if this means he'll start doing more production for pop stars. It'd be pretty exciting if he becomes the new Timbaland
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Post by phieaglesfan712 on Jul 15, 2020 22:02:42 GMT -5
How do we live in a world where toosie slide went number 1 but hotline bling didn’t I forget the exact specifics but Hotline Bling actually SHOULD have gotten a week at #1. The week the video came out, which obviously had massive hype and views, there was an Apple exclusive streaming deal or something like that and the views weren't reported so they weren't factored into that week's chart. As I recall it was sitting at #2 and had the video views been counted, it would absolutely have been #1. It's not Billboard's fault if the numbers aren't reported, but that's one case where a song literally deserved number one and didn't get it. Does anyone remember the details? iHype. ? thegreatdivine ? Baker Street comes to mind as another song that literally deserved #1, but didn't get it. I remember a few weeks ago someone posting that Baker Street was the real #1 on the 7-15-1978 chart, but Andy Gibb's label successfully lobbied Billboard to change it and keep Shadow Dancing at #1. |
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Post by owenlovesmusic on Jul 15, 2020 22:21:22 GMT -5
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Post by renfield75 on Jul 15, 2020 22:50:03 GMT -5
I forget the exact specifics but Hotline Bling actually SHOULD have gotten a week at #1. The week the video came out, which obviously had massive hype and views, there was an Apple exclusive streaming deal or something like that and the views weren't reported so they weren't factored into that week's chart. As I recall it was sitting at #2 and had the video views been counted, it would absolutely have been #1. It's not Billboard's fault if the numbers aren't reported, but that's one case where a song literally deserved number one and didn't get it. Does anyone remember the details? iHype. ? thegreatdivine ? Baker Street comes to mind as another song that literally deserved #1, but didn't get it. I remember a few weeks ago someone posting that Baker Street was the real #1 on the 7-15-1978 chart, but Andy Gibb's label successfully lobbied Billboard to change it and keep Shadow Dancing at #1. Yeah that’s a legendary story. There’s also a story that earlier in 1978 the same thing happened when Roberta Flack and Donny Hathaway’s “The Closer I Get To You” was crowned number one then held at its #2 peak in a last minute “correction”. There are all kinds of shady stories about then-chart manager Bill Wardlow. He was apparently very easily manipulated by labels like RSO (home of The Bee Gees amongst others). |
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Post by degen on Jul 15, 2020 23:17:24 GMT -5
Except that “In My Feelings” was the one that was actually on steroids, becoming his biggest hit across the globe. TS didn’t even make half the splash that song achieved. In My Feelings Drake's biggest hit across the globe? No. One Dance is his biggest worldwide hit followed by God's Plan At the height of its success “In My Feelings” was bigger than those other 2. Even if IMF didn’t have the same longevity, it was a pop cultural phenomenon during the Summer of 2018, near the same levels of a “Despacito” or “Old Town Road.” The fact that they tried to manufacture “Toosie Slide” to follow “In My Feelings” footsteps is more proof of that. So you can stick to what you think Drake’s biggest hit is by the books, but I’m sticking to what I think his biggest hit was in pop culture and what may be his signature hit. |
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Post by lurker2 on Jul 15, 2020 23:19:30 GMT -5
In My Feelings Drake's biggest hit across the globe? No. One Dance is his biggest worldwide hit followed by God's Plan At the height of its success “In My Feelings” was bigger than those other 2. Even if IMF didn’t have the same longevity, it was a pop cultural phenomenon during the Summer of 2018, near the same levels of a “Despacito” or “Old Town Road.” The fact that they tried to manufacture “Toosie Slide” to follow “In My Feelings” footsteps is more proof of that. So you can stick to what you think Drake’s biggest hit is by the books, but I’m sticking to what I think his biggest hit was in pop culture and what may be his signature hit. Wouldn't that be Hotline Bling? People still meme that video to this day. |
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Post by degen on Jul 15, 2020 23:27:40 GMT -5
At the height of its success “In My Feelings” was bigger than those other 2. Even if IMF didn’t have the same longevity, it was a pop cultural phenomenon during the Summer of 2018, near the same levels of a “Despacito” or “Old Town Road.” The fact that they tried to manufacture “Toosie Slide” to follow “In My Feelings” footsteps is more proof of that. So you can stick to what you think Drake’s biggest hit is by the books, but I’m sticking to what I think his biggest hit was in pop culture and what may be his signature hit. Wouldn't that be Hotline Bling? People still meme that video to this day. Perhaps. The only thing “Hotline Bling” has going against it is that it never hit #1, but I agree it’s probably one of his top 3 biggest hits overall. |
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Post by daysintheeast on Jul 15, 2020 23:39:06 GMT -5
Wouldn't that be Hotline Bling? People still meme that video to this day. Perhaps. The only thing “Hotline Bling” has going against it is that it never hit #1, but I agree it’s probably one of his top 3 biggest hits overall. In terms of impact chart wise and culture wise my top 5 would be one dance, God's plan, IMF, hotline bling, the motto |
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Post by atg on Jul 15, 2020 23:40:39 GMT -5
I feel like Drake is going to put in on his album as a 'bonus track' which would effectively make it the lead single Well, he isn't. He made that clear when he added it to Dark Lane Demo Tapes. No song has made it on two Drake projects before. It's not about to start now. He stated clearly that his album is all new, unheard music. I’ve seen best i ever had on both so far gone and thank me later, but as a bonus track on some special edition It will be the first time since then that drake would put a song on 2 projects |
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Post by atg on Jul 15, 2020 23:42:21 GMT -5
Toosie Slide is such a bore, IMF is much better. IMF was a song that hadn’t had the intent to be a viral hit but toosie slide had all the intent to be one so i guess you can figure out which one had more quality put into it |
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Post by code on Jul 16, 2020 0:38:36 GMT -5
The stan twitter fanbases, not just one, are all toxic. Simon just doesn't have time anymore. Also, yes, I'm sure he is tired of the constant attacks on his predictions as well. Nicki fans are garbage on another level, they pulled up to chartdata's house     |
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Post by thegreatdivine on Jul 16, 2020 1:52:40 GMT -5
Well, he isn't. He made that clear when he added it to Dark Lane Demo Tapes. No song has made it on two Drake projects before. It's not about to start now. He stated clearly that his album is all new, unheard music. I’ve seen best i ever had on both so far gone and thank me later, but as a bonus track on some special edition It will be the first time since then that drake would put a song on 2 projects And I'm telling you that he won't be doing that. Toosie Slide was for Dark Lane Demo Tapes, not his album. |
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Post by 𝓲𝓽'𝓼.𝓰𝓿 on Jul 16, 2020 2:50:44 GMT -5
Need Circles to get 40 weeks in the top 10, 39 weeks doesn't sit right with me Me too, irl I personally prefer having specific numbers end with either 5 or 0. So I'll really want "Circles" to have 40 weeks at Top 10. The number of weeks "Circles" is not in Top 10 in a calendar year seems like a bad omen. |
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Post by thelegends on Jul 16, 2020 3:34:40 GMT -5
How do we live in a world where toosie slide went number 1 but hotline bling didn’t I forget the exact specifics but Hotline Bling actually SHOULD have gotten a week at #1. The week the video came out, which obviously had massive hype and views, there was an Apple exclusive streaming deal or something like that and the views weren't reported so they weren't factored into that week's chart. As I recall it was sitting at #2 and had the video views been counted, it would absolutely have been #1. It's not Billboard's fault if the numbers aren't reported, but that's one case where a song literally deserved number one and didn't get it. Does anyone remember the details? iHype.? thegreatdivine? 1. Hello was a very strong #1 2. Streaming wasn’t as prominent in 2015 as it is now 3. The Week Toosie Slide went #1, the #1 was weak af. |
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Post by thegreatdivine on Jul 16, 2020 4:13:05 GMT -5
I forget the exact specifics but Hotline Bling actually SHOULD have gotten a week at #1. The week the video came out, which obviously had massive hype and views, there was an Apple exclusive streaming deal or something like that and the views weren't reported so they weren't factored into that week's chart. As I recall it was sitting at #2 and had the video views been counted, it would absolutely have been #1. It's not Billboard's fault if the numbers aren't reported, but that's one case where a song literally deserved number one and didn't get it. Does anyone remember the details? iHype.? thegreatdivine? 1. Hello was a very strong #1 2. Streaming wasn’t as prominent in 2015 as it is now 3. The Week Toosie Slide went #1, the #1 was weak af. Toosie Slide debuted with over 50,000 points. The #2 song that week had over 40,000 points. The current #1 song right now has less than 40,000 points so how was the #1 when Toosie Slide debuted "weak af"? Also, how did Toosie Slide even factor into what was being discussed? For reference, these have been the biggest weeks of the year so far (based on chart points), as at June 6. |
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Post by Enigma. on Jul 16, 2020 5:01:57 GMT -5
Agree, Toosie Slide was super strong for that week (still wondering where those huge Pandora numbers came from though compared to all other songs in the history of chart lol)
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Post by Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ on Jul 16, 2020 5:08:32 GMT -5
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Post by fhas on Jul 16, 2020 5:33:25 GMT -5
Drake's biggest hit in the U.S.
God's Plan. Easily. Even if we count Sicko Mode it's not close.
Drake's highest peaking hit
In My Feelings. It broke Harlem Shake's five-year record, still has the biggest week for a version of a song in U.S. Spotify's history (OTR had 2 versions) and is one of only four songs to reach 60 million on-demand audio streams (2 weeks with 61M).
I think Hotline Bling is his most iconic song, but that's just my opinion. Hello and The Hills were strong #1s. TH didn't reach a huge peak in points like Hello, but it was an all-metric #1 for two weeks.
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Post by GP on Jul 16, 2020 5:38:54 GMT -5
While Toosie shows that Drake won't have such an ease with meme hits as before with for example IMF, Life Is Good also shows that despite its peak (it did deserve a #1), people will stream and consume the hell out of a Drake song anyways. People consume the hell out of Drake music GENERALLY. He's been the most consumed artist in the US every year since 2015. He missed the mark of being the #1 artist in 2019 by less than 100K units and he's been the most consumed artist in the US so far this year. It's also not just his new music. It's his catalog. Old or new songs, people are always streaming Drake's music. This is where he's ranked every week in the most consumed acts in the US this year so far (total catalog): Based on the Rolling Stone Artist 500 chart: Dec. 27, 2019 - Jan. 2, 2020: #3 Jan. 3, 2020 - Jan. 9, 2020: #3 Jan. 10, 2020 - Jan. 16, 2020: #3 Jan. 17, 2020 - Jan. 23, 2020: #6 Jan. 24, 2020 - Jan. 30, 2020: #4 Jan. 31, 2020 - Feb. 6, 2020: #5 Feb. 7, 2020 - Feb. 13, 2020: #3 Feb. 14, 2020 - Feb. 20, 2020: #6 Feb. 21, 2020 - Feb. 27, 2020: #5 Feb. 28, 2020 - Mar. 5, 2020: #5 Mar. 6, 2020 - Mar. 12, 2020: #6 Mar. 13, 2020 - Mar. 19, 2020: #5 Mar. 20, 2020 - Mar. 26, 2020: #5 Mar. 27, 2020 - Apr. 2, 2020: #4 Apr. 3, 2020 - Apr. 9, 2020: #1 Apr. 10, 2020 - Apr. 16, 2020: #2 Apr. 17, 2020 - Apr. 23, 2020: #2 Apr. 24, 2020 - Apr. 30, 2020: #2 May. 1, 2020 - May. 7, 2020: #1 May. 8, 2020 - May. 14, 2020: #1 May. 15, 2020 - May. 21, 2020: #2 May. 22, 2020 - May. 28, 2020: #2 May. 29, 2020 - Jun. 4, 2020: #1 Jun. 5, 2020 - Jun. 11, 2020: #1 Jun. 12, 2020 - Jun. 18, 2020: #1 Jun. 19, 2020 - Jun. 25, 2020: #1 Jun. 26, 2020 - Jul. 2, 2020: #1 Jul. 3, 2020 - Jul. 9, 2020 - #2 Yes, it was already established that Drake as a whole is heavily consumed, but I was talking about new material. |
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Post by Enigma. on Jul 16, 2020 5:46:25 GMT -5
Drake's old albums have disappeared from the top 100 album chart recently though so would say the consumption is in slight decline (last year there was a time when he had four in top 100, now "only" two).
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Post by shayonce on Jul 16, 2020 6:21:56 GMT -5
Apple Music USA Top 100 - 7/15 Wednesday -
1.(=) Juice WRLD & Marshmello - Come & Go
2.(+2) Pop Smoke - For the Night (feat. Lil Baby & DaBaby)
3.(-1) Juice WRLD - Conversations
4.(-1) Juice WRLD & Marshmello - Hate the Other Side (feat. Polo G & The Kid LAROI)
5.(+1) Juice WRLD - Wishing Well
6.(-1) Juice WRLD - Blood On My Jeans
7.(+3) DaBaby - ROCKSTAR (feat. Roddy Ricch)
8.(-1) Juice WRLD & Halsey - Life's a Mess
9.(+3) Lil Baby & 42 Dugg - We Paid
10.(+1) Pop Smoke - The Woo (feat. 50 Cent & Roddy Ricch)
11.(-3) Juice WRLD - Titanic
12.(-3) Juice WRLD - Bad Energy
13.(=) Juice WRLD - Righteous
14.(=) Juice WRLD - Stay High
15.(+2) Rod Wave - Rags2Riches (feat. ATR Son Son)
16.(=) Pop Smoke - Got It On Me
17.(-2) Juice WRLD & Trippie Redd - Tell Me U Luv Me
18.(=) Juice WRLD - Fighting Demons
19. Pop Smoke - Something Special
20.(-1) Juice WRLD - Up Up and Away
21.(-1) Juice WRLD - Screw Juice
24.(-3) Juice WRLD - I Want It
27.(-2) Juice WRLD - Man of the Year
28.(-5) Juice WRLD - Can't Die
37.(-3) Juice WRLD - Get Through It (Interlude)
53.(-9) Juice WRLD - Anxiety (Intro)
67.(-6) Juice WRLD - Juice WRLD Speaks from Heaven (Outro)
68.(-5) Juice WRLD - The Man, The Myth, The Legend (Interlude)
47.(=) Summer Walker & PARTYNEXTDOOR - My Affection
50.(-4) Summer Walker - Let It Go
72.(-6) Summer Walker & NO1-NOAH - SWV
80.(-10) Summer Walker & NO1-NOAH - White Tee
95.(-13) Summer Walker - Deeper
65.(-7) Kid Cudi & Eminem - The Adventures of Moon Man & Slim Shady
88.(+5) Rod Wave - Through The Wire
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Post by amid on Jul 16, 2020 6:54:48 GMT -5
Wow. Pop Smoke is stable and strong on Apple Music two weeks after his album.
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Post by thegreatdivine on Jul 16, 2020 7:31:03 GMT -5
Drake's old albums have disappeared from the top 100 album chart recently though so would say the consumption is in slight decline (last year there was a time when he had four in top 100, now "only" two). He's still charting 5/6 albums weekly. More than anyone else. It's not abnormal for albums to move up and down in the Billboard 200 based on releases and stuff. When a lot of new albums get released, much older albums tend to get pushed back several positions. |
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