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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2020 21:06:47 GMT -5
uzi paved the way for this new era of deluxe albums. we love a innovator
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Post by chartfreak on Jul 23, 2020 21:12:04 GMT -5
Dua Lipa's surprise collaboration. I like it.
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Post by atg on Jul 23, 2020 21:44:47 GMT -5
Anyways despite how big this friday will become, and how next week could handle things with all the album bombs, juice wrld/pop smoke songs still falling out, and a potential battle between kanye and taylor, could we all stream Circles so it doesn’t fall out :(
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2020 22:33:25 GMT -5
rip The Box after Friday though, it had a good run.
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Post by mzumii on Jul 23, 2020 22:41:33 GMT -5
Anyways despite how big this friday will become, and how next week could handle things with all the album bombs, juice wrld/pop smoke songs still falling out, and a potential battle between kanye and taylor, could we all stream Circles so it doesn’t fall out  #KeepPostMaloneOnTheHot100 |
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Post by kierz7 on Jul 23, 2020 22:47:17 GMT -5
uzi paved the way for this new era of deluxe albums. we love a innovator A LEGEND, let’s be honest. This generations P.Diddy/Dr. Dre! 👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿 |
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Post by sirskimask on Jul 24, 2020 0:11:16 GMT -5
Anyways despite how big this friday will become, and how next week could handle things with all the album bombs, juice wrld/pop smoke songs still falling out, and a potential battle between kanye and taylor, could we all stream Circles so it doesn’t fall out #KeepPostMaloneOnTheHot100 If he drops out then that'll break an almost 4 year streak of him continuously charting. I don't want that to happen :'( |
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Post by Enigma. on Jul 24, 2020 0:15:05 GMT -5
Lol what the hell Circles is not in any danger until it reaches 52 weeks.
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Post by failstoner on Jul 24, 2020 1:03:38 GMT -5
Circles just doesn't have to drop below #50 which seems safe for now, but 52 weeks isn't far away now
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Post by atg on Jul 24, 2020 1:04:04 GMT -5
Lol what the hell Circles is not in any danger until it reaches 52 weeks. With all the album bombs and craziness, circles has a chance to fall below 50 so we needa keep it alive |
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Post by Limited Edition on Jul 24, 2020 2:23:48 GMT -5
rip The Box after Friday though, it had a good run. Blinding Lights for year end number one! |
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Post by Enigma. on Jul 24, 2020 2:26:40 GMT -5
Lol what the hell Circles is not in any danger until it reaches 52 weeks. With all the album bombs and craziness, circles has a chance to fall below 50 so we needa keep it alive  It's top 20 this week on H100 and #7 in airplay and radio isn't dropping it any time soon. It needs hell of an album bomb or five to drop below top 50 before it reaches 52 weeks. Then it is of course a different story. |
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Post by shayonce on Jul 24, 2020 4:28:25 GMT -5
Apple Music USA Top100 - 7/23 Thursday -
1. J. Cole - The Climb Back
2. J. Cole - Lion King On Ice
3.(-2) Pop Smoke - For the Night (feat. Lil Baby & DaBaby)
4.(-2) DJ Khaled - POPSTAR (feat. Drake)
5.(-2) Juice WRLD & Marshmello - Come & Go
6.(-1) Lil Baby & 42 Dugg - We Paid
7.(-3) DaBaby - ROCKSTAR (feat. Roddy Ricch)
8.(-2) DJ Khaled - GREECE (feat. Drake)
9.(-2) Pop Smoke - The Woo (feat. 50 Cent & Roddy Ricch)
10.(-2) Juice WRLD - Wishing Well
11.(-2) Juice WRLD & Marshmello - Hate the Other Side (feat. Polo G & The Kid LAROI)
12.(-1) Jack Harlow - WHATS POPPIN (Remix) [feat. DaBaby, Tory Lanez & Lil Wayne]
13.(-1) Pop Smoke - Got It on Me
14.(=) Pop Smoke - Mood Swings (feat. Lil Tjay)
15.(-2) Rod Wave - Rags2Riches (feat. ATR Son Son)
16.(+2) Chris Brown & Young Thug - Go Crazy
17.(=) Moneybagg Yo - Said Sum
18.(-8) Juice WRLD - Conversations
19.(-3) Pop Smoke - Something Special
20.(-5) Juice WRLD - Blood On My Jeans
45.(-13) Headie One & Drake - Only You Freestyle
72.(=) Rod Wave - Through the Wire
92.(-1) Jhené Aiko - On the Way (feat. Mila J)
94.(=) Kane Brown, Swae Lee, Khalid - Be Like That
23.(-3) Pop Smoke - Hello (feat. A Boogie wit da Hoodie)
58.(-13) Pop Smoke - Paranoia (feat. Gunna & Young Thug)
65.(-16) Pop Smoke - Hotel Lobby
90.(-25) Pop Smoke - Showin Off, Pt. 1 (feat. Fivio Foreign)
96.(-19) Pop Smoke - Backseat (feat. PnB Rock)
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Post by sirskimask on Jul 24, 2020 5:23:14 GMT -5
Lol what the hell Circles is not in any danger until it reaches 52 weeks. With all the album bombs and craziness, circles has a chance to fall below 50 so we needa keep it alive Even if Drake drops a 40 track LP Chris Brown style Circles still wouldn't fall below 50. I think it'll be fine lol |
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Post by Enigma. on Jul 24, 2020 5:51:56 GMT -5
J. Cole is #2 and #4 on Spotify but not with huge numbers so the debut is pretty modest this week.
Love to see What Makes You Beautiful at #27!
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Post by Gary on Jul 24, 2020 5:53:24 GMT -5
Lol what the hell Circles is not in any danger until it reaches 52 weeks. With all the album bombs and craziness, circles has a chance to fall below 50 so we needa keep it alive With 52 weeks approaching, the barrier is not #50, it is #25 The song is #20 right now |
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Post by Enigma. on Jul 24, 2020 6:24:53 GMT -5
US Spotify, week ending 07/23/2020
1 Wishing Well by Juice WRLD 10,474,082
2 Come & Go (with Marshmello) by Juice WRLD 10,324,754
3 ROCKSTAR (feat. Roddy Ricch) by DaBaby 9,676,362
4 POPSTAR (feat. Drake) by DJ Khaled 9,629,808
5 WHATS POPPIN (feat. DaBaby, Tory Lanez & Lil Wayne) - Remix by Jack Harlow 8,227,016
6 Conversations by Juice WRLD 7,026,339
7 Hate The Other Side (with Marshmello & The Kid Laroi) by Juice WRLD 6,852,112
8 Blueberry Faygo by Lil Mosey 6,169,521
9 Life's A Mess (feat. Halsey) by Juice WRLD 6,126,393
10 Watermelon Sugar by Harry Styles 5,991,322
What's Poppin is obviously #1 combined, and by far, with 11.993M. Greece is #12 with 5.87M.
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Post by strongerq on Jul 24, 2020 7:14:32 GMT -5
^Yeah. Didn't deluxe editions actually start as CD releases? I guess the two most famous once that come to mind before the streaming ones are The Fame Monster and Teenage Dream: The Complete Confection. Basically you release an allbum and a lot of fans buy it. How do you get more sales after that. After 6 months/year you add 3-5 new songs, preferably change the cover and you have Album Deluxe, and dedicated fans have bought the same album twice.
The difference between TD:TCC & TFM is that Teenage dream and the deluxe/reissue count as one, The Fame & The Fame Monster are 2 separate albums in the eyes of both Billboad & RIAA. Originally The Fame Monster was supposed to be a deluxe edition of The Fame, but Lady Gaga/Interscope decided to release it as a standalone EP. TFM was available as a sandalone EP (8 tracks) & together with The Fame (14+8 =22 total). Since it was available separate it counts as a separate album. That is why RIAA has The Fame - 6xPlat ; The Fame Monster - 5xPlat. Teenage Dream was a standard deluxe/reissue where they added aditional songs.
Back to the current Deluxe trend. - Releasing Deluxe edition the second week/ within 1/2months.
IT IS NOT AS IMPACTFUL AS PEOPLE MAKE IT SEEM.
Eternal Atake Deluxe (14 songs) accounted for 130K of the total 247K (acording to staff member of HitsDD). First week was 288K, second week of standard edition - 117K.
Pop Smoke's album had Deluxe Edition (15 songs), it will account for 50-60K SPS which is nothing compared to the first week 251K.
Bonus: Releasing more new songs kills the buzz that the original songs had. And despite what many people think, an artist releasing 15 song album and releasing 25 song album doen't have that big of a difference outside of the first 2 weeks/month. I guess what artists/labels want is to capitalize on the first few weeks when everyone is checking out the entire album so 25 songs>15 songs. More streams -> higher SPS -> inflated position.
I don't think they shold address this Deluxe thing directly, the "problematic" thing is (both RIAA & Billboard):
I will use RIAA because it has simpler rules regarding streaming, but same ѕhit applies to BB200.
Standard Album (15 songs) needs 1500 strems to count as an album unit.
Double Album (30 songs) needs 1500 streams to count as an album unit.
In the past they made a rule that each disc within the Double album counts as a sale, since the price is higher than standard albums. You sell 5 million copies (with 2 CDs each), so you have sold 10 million CDs (Diamond Album). Makes 100% sense.
The problem today: You have double the songs, don't you need double the streams to count as an album unit.
The reasong why double albums counted as 2 sales was because of the higher price than standard albums. Do i need to pay a double subscription to listen to double albums today? 
BB200 doesn't count double album sales as 2, but the streaming problem still stands.
You have twice the songs you need twice the streams.
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Jul 24, 2020 7:37:56 GMT -5
Spotify - 07/23/20
1(debut) J. Cole - The Climb Back 1,507,441
2(-1) Juice WRLD - Wishing Well 1,403,415 (-23,020)
3(debut) J. Cole - Lion King 1,396,723
4(-2) Juice WRLD - Come & Go 1,359,790 (-17,417)
5(-2) DaBaby - ROCKSTAR 1,333,296 (+19,293)
6(-2) Jack Harlow - WHATS POPPIN Remix 1,212,613 (+33,352)
7(-2) DJ Khaled - POPSTAR 1,130,825 (+14,506)
8(-2) Juice WRLD - Conversations 927,159 (-40,290)
9(-1) Lil Mosey - Blueberry Faygo 876,442 (+5,458)
10(-3) Juice WRLD - Hate the Other Side 867,682 (-29,780)
Others:
11(-2) The Weeknd - Blinding Lights 843,815 (+15,327)
12(-2) Harry Styles - Watermelon Sugar 834,277 (+7,708)
13(+3) StaySolidRocky - Party Girl Remix 792,619 (+26,591)
14(-1) Rod Wave - Rags2Riches 777,540 (-11,943)
15(-4) Juice WRLD - Life's a Mess 773,565 (-29,040)
16(-4) Pop Smoke - For the Night 771,049 (-21,069)
17(-3) Pop Smoke - The Woo 765,251 (-13,941)
18(-3) Juice WRLD - Righteous 744,893 (-29,099)
19(-1) Jawsh 365 - Savage Love 715,475 (+20,703)
20(-3) DJ Khaled - GREECE 701,893 (-63,063)
21(-2) Lil Baby - We Paid 666,720 (-1,579)
22(-1) SAINt JHN - Roses (Imanbek Remix) 641,844 (+21,511)
23(-3) Juice WRLD - Blood on My Jeans 637,248 (-23,023)
25(-1) Chris Brown - Go Crazy 577,456 (+14,229)
27(re-entry) One Direction - What Makes You Beautiful 550,742
28(=) powfu - death bed 536,735 (+6,174)
30(-3) Lil Baby - The Bigger Picture 533,413 (-4,364)
31(-6) Juice WRLD - Stay High 531,076 (-20,758)
32(+8) Don Toliver - After Party 519,135 (+21,696)
33(-7) Juice WRLD - Titanic 514,219 (-25,030)
37(-6) Polo G - Flex 504,755 (-12,755)
38(-4) Jack Harlow - WHATS POPPIN 501,629 (-10,239)
39(-2) The Kid LAROI - GO! 495,985 (-11,790)
40(-2) Megan Thee Stallion - Savage Remix 493,267 (-8,488)
45(-2) Lady Gaga - Rain on Me 476,125 (+1,957)
55(-3) Lewis Capaldi - Before You Go 425,490 (-3,625)
58(-3) iann diorr - Prospect 418,050 (-1,095)
61(re-entry) One Direction - Story of My Life 408,062
66(-2) Dua Lipa - Break My Heart 389,533 (-3,710)
67(-2) Marshmello - Be Kind 381,620 (-439)
73(-7) Curtis Waters - Stunnin' 373,956 (-1,724)
74(re-entry) One Direction - Drag Me Down 368,413
76(-5) BENEE - Supalonely 363,194 (-3,078)
78(-6) Topic - Breaking Me 359,972 (-3,521)
61(re-entry) One Direction - Steal My Girl 359,542
80(-10) Wallows - Are You Bored Yet? 358,637 (-10,588)
81(-6) Surf Mesa - ily 356,183 (-5,914)
82(-4) Kane Brown - Be Like That 351,306 (+4,708)
86(re-entry) One Direction - History 341,816
94(re-entry) One Direction - Kiss You 318,216
97(re-entry) One Direction - Perfect 317,278
99(-7) Saweetie - Tap In 313,590 (+4,339)
100(re-entry) One Direction - 18 313,459
102(re-entry) One Direction - Little Things 309,163
104(-25) Headie One - Only You Freestyle 308,106 (-38,284)
107(re-entry) One Direction - Live While We're Young 307,269
108(re-entry) One Direction - Best Song Ever 305,729
111(re-entry) One Direction - They Don't Know About Us 299,830
124(re-entry) One Direction - Night Changes 272,638
135(re-entry) One Direction - One Thing 258,437
137(re-entry) One Direction - You & I 258,253
174(re-entry) One Direction - Olivia 234,426
189(re-entry) One Direction - No Control 225,355
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Post by annoymous1 on Jul 24, 2020 8:12:53 GMT -5
Of course What Makes You Beautiful would be the highest reentry for 1D ah..
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Post by Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ on Jul 24, 2020 8:15:42 GMT -5
Of course What Makes You Beautiful would be the highest reentry for 1D ah.. that song is cringe af Drag Me Down is their best song, no contest. |
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Post by annoymous1 on Jul 24, 2020 8:17:38 GMT -5
Of course What Makes You Beautiful would be the highest reentry for 1D ah.. that song is cringe af Drag Me Down is their best song, no contest. I agree that Drag Me Down is their best song. |
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Post by Enigma. on Jul 24, 2020 8:19:11 GMT -5
Story of My Life is their best
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Post by chartfreak on Jul 24, 2020 9:25:31 GMT -5
Is this simply because of a 10 year anniversary?
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Jul 24, 2020 9:36:04 GMT -5
^Yeah. Didn't deluxe editions actually start as CD releases? I guess the two most famous once that come to mind before the streaming ones are The Fame Monster and Teenage Dream: The Complete Confection.
While true given that the deluxe tracks generally don't get as much attention as those of the parent album, they still add up not only the first week the deluxe edition but over time. There's no way that My Turn would have been #1 in the Billboard 200 for 5 weeks without it. |
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Post by shaz196 on Jul 24, 2020 10:02:51 GMT -5
I feel like 1D really dropped the ball by not throwing together a compilation of unreleased tracks for the anniversary, would've easily been the biggest debut of the year.
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Jul 24, 2020 10:32:07 GMT -5
In these week's Top 40 radio callouts, Adore You and Watermelon Sugar continue to lead. On the bottom, Savage is followed by Rain on Me.
kworb's Billboard Radio Songs Estimates | 2020/07/24
1(=) The Weeknd - Blinding Lights 142.47(+0.24)
2(=) Harry Styles - Adore You 124.05(-0.57)
3(=) DaBaby - ROCKSTAR (feat. Roddy Ricch) 113.08(+0.48)
4(=) Dua Lipa - Break My Heart 109.48(+1.65)
5(=) Harry Styles - Watermelon Sugar 101.49(+0.87)
6(=) SAINt JHN - Roses (Imanbek Remix) 97.96(-0.06)
7(=) Post Malone - Circles 94.48(-0.37)
8(=) Megan Thee Stallion - Savage Remix (feat. Beyoncé) 92.86(-1.27)
9(=) Dua Lipa - Don't Start Now 89.09(-1.33)
10(=) Lewis Capaldi - Before You Go 86.57(+1.07)
18(=) Gabby Barrett - I Hope (feat. Charlie Puth) 67.88(+0.80)
20(=) Miranda Lambert - Bluebird 59.22(+1.41)
30(+1) JP Saxe & Julia Michaels - If the World Was Ending (feat. Julia Michaels) 47.99(+0.78)
52(+2) Lil Baby - Emotionally Scarred 30.19(+0.92) 53(+4) Jawsh 685 X Jason Derulo - Savage Love (Laxed-Siren Beat) 29.80(+0.899
61(+17) DJ Khaled - POPSTAR (feat. Drake) 27.24(+6.02) + 72(+2) Jason Aldean - Got What I Got 23.77(+0.64)
93(+12) Rod Wave - Heart on Ice 17.70(+0.73) -(-) DJ Khaled - GREECE (feat. Drake) 16.26(+0.71)
-(-) Kane Brown, Swae Lee, Khalid - Be Like That 11.40(+0.80)
-(-) Juice WRLD & Marshmello - Come & Go 4.81(+0.92)
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Post by kimberly on Jul 24, 2020 13:36:36 GMT -5
^Yeah. Didn't deluxe editions actually start as CD releases? I guess the two most famous once that come to mind before the streaming ones are The Fame Monster and Teenage Dream: The Complete Confection. Basically you release an allbum and a lot of fans buy it. How do you get more sales after that. After 6 months/year you add 3-5 new songs, preferably change the cover and you have Album Deluxe, and dedicated fans have bought the same album twice.
Back to the current Deluxe trend. - Releasing Deluxe edition the second week/ within 1/2months.
IT IS NOT AS IMPACTFUL AS PEOPLE MAKE IT SEEM.
Eternal Atake Deluxe (14 songs) accounted for 130K of the total 247K (acording to staff member of HitsDD). First week was 288K, second week of standard edition - 117K. Dude I haven't read what you wrote I'm just glad you ditched the weird font sizes for a simple yet effective bolding. |
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Post by Enigma. on Jul 24, 2020 13:51:36 GMT -5
HDD is late with streaming songs again. Why they are super early on one week and very late next.
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Post by strongerq on Jul 24, 2020 13:59:52 GMT -5
IT IS NOT AS IMPACTFUL AS PEOPLE MAKE IT SEEM. Dude I haven't read what you wrote I'm just glad you ditched the weird font sizes for a simple yet effective bolding. ? :sip2: |
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