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Post by raylatch98 on Jul 3, 2021 14:15:34 GMT -5
Cole’s song should have never been a hit. I still think Miranda will hit #1 with this. It’s definitely 10 x better than Cole’s song! I mean how though? Miranda is scheduled to push before Cole Swindell and she is already over 1800 spins behind Cole on Mediabase and almost 6 million in audience behind on Billboard. She would have to have one of the biggest mammoth of pushes ever seen on the chart and also have Cole Swindell not move much at all.
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Post by CoJoFan on Jul 3, 2021 14:22:24 GMT -5
Cole’s song should have never been a hit. I still think Miranda will hit #1 with this. It’s definitely 10 x better than Cole’s song! I mean how though? Miranda is scheduled to push before Cole Swindell and she is already over 1800 spins behind Cole on Mediabase and almost 6 million in audience behind on Billboard. She would have to have one of the biggest mammoth of pushes ever seen on the chart and also have Cole Swindell not move much at all. Let me rephrase what I said when I typed this half asleep. Miranda should be a #1 over Cole. I’d even take Aldean having multiple weeks at #1 if it meant Cole not getting a #1.
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Post by raylatch98 on Jul 3, 2021 14:46:33 GMT -5
I mean how though? Miranda is scheduled to push before Cole Swindell and she is already over 1800 spins behind Cole on Mediabase and almost 6 million in audience behind on Billboard. She would have to have one of the biggest mammoth of pushes ever seen on the chart and also have Cole Swindell not move much at all. Let me rephrase what I said when I typed this half asleep. Miranda should be a #1 over Cole. I’d even take Aldean having multiple weeks at #1 if it meant Cole not getting a #1. Okay? I was just confused on how your statement that Miranda IS going to hit #1, that's where my confusion was from, sorry for misunderstanding what you were saying
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Post by CoJoFan on Jul 3, 2021 14:51:04 GMT -5
Let me rephrase what I said when I typed this half asleep. Miranda should be a #1 over Cole. I’d even take Aldean having multiple weeks at #1 if it meant Cole not getting a #1. Okay? I was just confused on how your statement that Miranda IS going to hit #1, that's where my confusion was from, sorry for misunderstanding what you were saying Not your fault. You don’t have to apologize
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Post by taylor on Jul 3, 2021 16:15:20 GMT -5
I've said this before and I'll say it again, if a song isn't connecting, let go! Not everything has to make it to the top only for people to forget it ever existed. Chart watching is really exhausting I just want to say that I do agree with you, I was just explaining that it hadn't been struggling the last few weeks was all. Sorry. They weren’t coming for you by that post. They were expressing frustration at the situation was all. I’m furious to think that someguy alluded to the truth. Luke Combs was all fine and dandy when he had “Six Feet Apart” and “Does To Me” around at the same time, and it hurt “Does To Me” by not even a SLIVER. All of a sudden, a woman comes along and does the same thing and she gets her song’s #1 post pulled out from under her. To know that Cole Swindell (who has made perhaps ONE !!! song in his entire career that I have ever listened to twice, let alone liked) took nearly a f**king year to slug his way into the Top 10-20-wherever, while Miranda has steadily been hauling ass on the chart, working it off to get close to this #1 that she now has very slim chances of achieving, quite frankly pisses me off. I agree with Troublemaker: chart watching has become frustrating and infuriating, and something simply HAS to be done to put and end to this trend of participation trophy #1s and five-year chart runs, and prevent it from EVER happening again. It makes chart watching more boring than watching a congressional hearing, and it makes mainstream country radio a chore to listen to.
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Post by zdm1998 on Jul 4, 2021 6:34:39 GMT -5
Given today’s update I’m wondering if they are even going to bother with a #1 push or if they have let it go.
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Post by christianlarson9 on Jul 4, 2021 6:52:26 GMT -5
Given today’s update I’m wondering if they are even going to bother with a #1 push or if they have let it go. Today definitely wasn’t a good update. I was hoping that next week it could go Top 5 as “Gone” & “Almost Maybes” should fall below it, but I think the Chase Rice/FGL song will pass it next week, so it’ll be #6 at best. I still have hope in this going Top 5, maybe Top 3, but it depends on when Sony plans to max it out. I’m doubtful on it going #1 though.
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Post by Tylerjamesnerd on Jul 4, 2021 9:00:39 GMT -5
They should have waited to send “Drunk” it seems. So sad… hope it can rebound.
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Post by raylatch98 on Jul 4, 2021 9:05:16 GMT -5
I just want to say that I do agree with you, I was just explaining that it hadn't been struggling the last few weeks was all. Sorry. They weren’t coming for you by that post. They were expressing frustration at the situation was all. I’m furious to think that someguy alluded to the truth. Luke Combs was all fine and dandy when he had “Six Feet Apart” and “Does To Me” around at the same time, and it hurt “Does To Me” by not even a SLIVER. All of a sudden, a woman comes along and does the same thing and she gets her song’s #1 post pulled out from under her. To know that Cole Swindell (who has made perhaps ONE !!! song in his entire career that I have ever listened to twice, let alone liked) took nearly a f**king year to slug his way into the Top 10-20-wherever, while Miranda has steadily been hauling ass on the chart, working it off to get close to this #1 that she now has very slim chances of achieving, quite frankly pisses me off. I agree with Troublemaker: chart watching has become frustrating and infuriating, and something simply HAS to be done to put and end to this trend of participation trophy #1s and five-year chart runs, and prevent it from EVER happening again. It makes chart watching more boring than watching a congressional hearing, and it makes mainstream country radio a chore to listen to. I don't know if Luke Combs is the best comparison since "Six Feet Apart" was never actively pushed to radio while "Does To Me" was climbing (it charted but Sony never actively pushed it to country radio from what I recall).
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Post by taylor on Jul 4, 2021 14:58:00 GMT -5
They weren’t coming for you by that post. They were expressing frustration at the situation was all. I’m furious to think that someguy alluded to the truth. Luke Combs was all fine and dandy when he had “Six Feet Apart” and “Does To Me” around at the same time, and it hurt “Does To Me” by not even a SLIVER. All of a sudden, a woman comes along and does the same thing and she gets her song’s #1 post pulled out from under her. To know that Cole Swindell (who has made perhaps ONE !!! song in his entire career that I have ever listened to twice, let alone liked) took nearly a f**king year to slug his way into the Top 10-20-wherever, while Miranda has steadily been hauling ass on the chart, working it off to get close to this #1 that she now has very slim chances of achieving, quite frankly pisses me off. I agree with Troublemaker: chart watching has become frustrating and infuriating, and something simply HAS to be done to put and end to this trend of participation trophy #1s and five-year chart runs, and prevent it from EVER happening again. It makes chart watching more boring than watching a congressional hearing, and it makes mainstream country radio a chore to listen to. I don't know if Luke Combs is the best comparison since "Six Feet Apart" was never actively pushed to radio while "Does To Me" was climbing (it charted but Sony never actively pushed it to country radio from what I recall). Ok then, replace everything I just said with pre-controversy era Morgan Wallen (“More Than My Hometown,” “7 Summers”) and my point still stands. At the time neither song of his was hurt, but country radio just suddenly recoils at the very IDEA of being forward enough to have two songs by the same woman on the chart at one time. It’s sexist and it’s ridiculous and I’m sick of it and it needs to end.
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Post by raylatch98 on Jul 4, 2021 15:07:21 GMT -5
I don't know if Luke Combs is the best comparison since "Six Feet Apart" was never actively pushed to radio while "Does To Me" was climbing (it charted but Sony never actively pushed it to country radio from what I recall). Ok then, replace everything I just said with pre-controversy era Morgan Wallen (“More Than My Hometown,” “7 Summers”) and my point still stands. At the time neither song of his was hurt, but country radio just suddenly recoils at the very IDEA of being forward enough to have two songs by the same woman on the chart at one time. It’s sexist and it’s ridiculous and I’m sick of it and it needs to end. Oh I agree with your overall sentiment, I just was explaining that Luke Combs example wasn't the best.
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Post by cousingerard on Jul 4, 2021 15:41:13 GMT -5
They should have waited to send “Drunk” it seems. So sad… hope it can rebound. I think everyone was hoping Miranda would get another #1 with "Settling Down," but isn't this also...sort of what we want Country radio to do? Be a little more reactive to the current landscape of music and reflect where artists currently are a little better? "Settling Down" has been out in the world since 2019.. "Drunk" was connecting now so...instead of waiting probably another two months, and risking that it might cool off a bit...make it a single and get it to radio.
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Post by zdm1998 on Jul 4, 2021 16:38:48 GMT -5
They should have waited to send “Drunk” it seems. So sad… hope it can rebound. I think everyone was hoping Miranda would get another #1 with "Settling Down," but isn't this also...sort of what we want Country radio to do? Be a little more reactive to the current landscape of music and reflect where artists currently are a little better? "Settling Down" has been out in the world since 2019.. "Drunk" was connecting now so...instead of waiting probably another two months, and risking that it might cool off a bit...make it a single and get it to radio. I understand what you’re saying to an extent, but I think everyone’s upset because the majority of the time these “inconveniences” happen with women. Thomas Rhett had “be a light” and “beer can’t fix” out and had overlapping chart runs and the same with Morgan Wallen. They got a pass, Miranda didn’t. Drunk has been connecting well ever since it released a few months ago, so I doubt waiting another month to release it would have hurt it.
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Post by raylatch98 on Jul 4, 2021 16:48:52 GMT -5
I will say this, I think a label should abandon a single if there is another song that is connecting so much more (like "Champagne Night" replacing "What I'm Leaving For") but "Settling Down" has been connecting fairly well, not as well as "Drunk" but still a solid amount, I will also say it does come across sexist due to the examples of Morgan Wallen and Thomas Rhett where the newer singles only struggled when the older song pushed for #1. It is sexist.
I will also say I don't hold any of what is happening to "Settling Down" against the artists that are ahead of Miranda's song, like if any Miranda Lambert fan is going to blame/harass Cole Swindell, or any of the other artists that could block Miranda from hitting #1 (I am not saying anyone here is blaming Cole Swindell, but I do know some fanbases go way too far and go after and attack people) then fuck off. Blame country radio not any of the other artists climbing the chart.
I will say with how immediate "Drunk" connected, I kind of wished the label would have just slashed "Settling Down" once they realized how much "Drunk" was connecting instead of waiting a few months and then releasing it before "Settling Down" peaked. They tried to have their cake and eat it too and it backfired in "Settling Down's" face.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Jul 4, 2021 18:15:11 GMT -5
I definitely think releasing "Drunk" when they did was the right move. In fact, they probably could've released it even earlier than they did, but they held off several months to allow "Settling Down" some time to breathe. Unfortunately, it seems like country radio is still not going to let her ride to the top like it looked like she originally would, but, as sad as it is, I will be more than okay with it coming up short if it means "Drunk" is a huge smash and winds up being another #1 for her anyway later this year or early 2022. It does look like "Drunk" is poised to possibly be one of the biggest hits of her career, while "Settling Down" was aiming to be a more modest hit in the shadow of a career hit in "Bluebird." Overall, I wish country radio wouldn't be so sexist and she could've still got another #1, but I'm glad that she's still riding on the biggest wave airplay-wise that she's had in like 7 years.
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Post by 3chords on Jul 4, 2021 22:32:13 GMT -5
Hmm I see what you mean with the country countdown schedule but that’s weird bc I’ve heard miranda was scheduled to push the last week of July 🤨 and in that latest women of country aircheck issue the RCA guy seemed so confident in getting her back to backs. Clearly Drunk has taken some spins but I guess we’ll see if it rebounds next week at all. Weird about the countdown schedule though. And why wouldn’t they just yank SD for Drunk like they’ve yanked a bunch of her other singles. So frustrating.
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Post by d3vin44 on Jul 5, 2021 3:30:11 GMT -5
I love this song, but I am honestly bored of it and ready for them to move on. Tequila Does is right there waiting to smash! I can't get enough of the remix she released on Friday.
At this point in her career, I don't think #1's really matter. I also think she could get away with having Tequila Does and Drunk out at the same time. Her career has seemed very "why not" as of recent and I'm loving it. I hope her team continues with that mindset moving forward. Settling Down was a good single, now let it go. :)
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Post by 3chords on Jul 5, 2021 8:16:49 GMT -5
I’d love to close the chapter on SD because I’m ready for Annies season and I have a feeling it’s right around the corner.
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Post by christianlarson9 on Jul 6, 2021 8:28:05 GMT -5
Today was not a good update for “Settling Down”. Looks like RCA is going to let it go sooner than I thought…
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Post by countryman87 on Jul 6, 2021 22:30:14 GMT -5
If Miranda has any chance to get to #1 on MB, she has to rebullet this week. She's been bulletless the last 2 weeks and if she doesn't rebound by Sunday, she'll go recurrent before her official push week.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2021 4:05:10 GMT -5
I don't know if Luke Combs is the best comparison since "Six Feet Apart" was never actively pushed to radio while "Does To Me" was climbing (it charted but Sony never actively pushed it to country radio from what I recall). Ok then, replace everything I just said with pre-controversy era Morgan Wallen (“More Than My Hometown,” “7 Summers”) and my point still stands. At the time neither song of his was hurt, but country radio just suddenly recoils at the very IDEA of being forward enough to have two songs by the same woman on the chart at one time. It’s sexist and it’s ridiculous and I’m sick of it and it needs to end. The idea of releasing two singles at the same time is not very common and Morgan / Thomas are the only two times in recent memory that it has happened and I would immediately brush aside Thomas Rhett - Be a light because that was just a Covid / Multi artist collaboration. On to Morgan I really think people are discounting his popularity pre controversy. He was fixing to surpass Luke Combs as the biggest current star in country music....he still might we will see. I don’t think it’s sexist that country radio won’t support two singles from Miranda at the same time.....Truth is almost nobody could right now with the way country radio operates. Brad Paisleys new single is gonna bomb out because radio is playing “Freedom Was A Highway”. Miranda getting a top # 5 single on country radio should be considered an accomplishment. I’m sure she and her team are not upset by it. She’s had way better songs over the years that didn’t even sniff a top 10.
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Post by someguy on Jul 7, 2021 8:16:38 GMT -5
I would think that this situation isn’t that different than “Be A Light”, or even Luke Combs’ situation right now with “Forever After All”/“Cold Beer Calling My Name”. Morgan’s situation is the only one I can think of that was two solo singles from the same artist at the same time (at least in recent memory).
“Settling Down” had a much better update today, and may be able to rebullet this week after all.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Jul 7, 2021 12:48:42 GMT -5
It's not two Miranda Lambert singles: one is a song she's FEATURED on. There's been quite a few male country stars over the years who have been featured on singles while having their own singles at radio, but the moment a woman does it, naturally it becomes an issue. Radio seemed very content with "Settling Down" for most of its run and it was connecting well -- not quite on the level of "Bluebird," but still strong -- so the slowdown just because she was on Elle King's new single was unnecessary. She shouldn't have been this affected by its release.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2021 15:00:04 GMT -5
It's not two Miranda Lambert singles: one is a song she's FEATURED on. There's been quite a few male country stars over the years who have been featured on singles while having their own singles at radio, but the moment a woman does it, naturally it becomes an issue. Radio seemed very content with "Settling Down" for most of its run and it was connecting well -- not quite on the level of "Bluebird," but still strong -- so the slowdown just because she was on Elle King's new single was unnecessary. She shouldn't have been this affected by its release. I understand it’s not 2 Miranda Lambert singles but in the eyes of radio programmers it is. “Meant to be” was not a BeBe Rexha song to program director s it was a FGL song. If “Drunk and I don’t wanna go home” was only Elle King it wouldn’t even of sniffed top 40 on country radio.
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Post by raylatch98 on Jul 7, 2021 15:12:24 GMT -5
It's not two Miranda Lambert singles: one is a song she's FEATURED on. There's been quite a few male country stars over the years who have been featured on singles while having their own singles at radio, but the moment a woman does it, naturally it becomes an issue. Radio seemed very content with "Settling Down" for most of its run and it was connecting well -- not quite on the level of "Bluebird," but still strong -- so the slowdown just because she was on Elle King's new single was unnecessary. She shouldn't have been this affected by its release. I understand it’s not 2 Miranda Lambert singles but in the eyes of radio programmers it is. “Meant to be” was not a BeBe Rexha song to program director s it was a FGL song. If “Drunk and I don’t wanna go home” was only Elle King it wouldn’t even of sniffed top 40 on country radio. Yeah this sentiment I can agree with, as this release is similar to "Meant To Be" as their is a non country artist on the song but radio is looking at it from the country artist attached to it. Also Miranda Lambert isn't even labeled as featured on it, it's labeled 'Elle King & Miranda Lambert' so essentially joint ownership of the song. A feature would be FGL on "Drinking Beer, Talking God, Amen", Luke Combs on "Cold Beer Calling My Name", or Old Dominion on "I Can't". Not Miranda Lambert on "Drunk"
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Post by .indulgecountry on Jul 7, 2021 16:45:53 GMT -5
Also Miranda Lambert isn't even labeled as featured on it, it's labeled 'Elle King & Miranda Lambert' so essentially joint ownership of the song. A feature would be FGL on "Drinking Beer, Talking God, Amen", Luke Combs on "Cold Beer Calling My Name", or Old Dominion on "I Can't". Not Miranda Lambert on "Drunk" This is just proving the point though. All of these artists who can have 2 hit singles at the same time on country radio and it literally doesn't effect anything. Like radio didn't immediately drop Caitlyn Smith's song the moment "I Was on a Boat That Day" came out, i.e. There should be no reason for "Settling Down" to be struggling because of "Drunk"'s release. Zero. None. It was doing very well on radio. Maybe if it had been struggling airplay-wise and testing poorly and not selling, then a case could be made there, but there's nothing about its run that said 'this is a song that will run out of gas in the middle of the top 10 instead of hitting #1 like 90% of the songs that make it that far.' It's ridiculous, lol.
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Post by 3chords on Jul 7, 2021 17:28:09 GMT -5
It is ridiculous, especially since there are much shittier songs hitting #1. And Sony even had it planned to go to the top. The VP of promo said in aircheck they were going to get her back-to-back number ones a week ago like there wasn’t even a question about it. So it seems they were caught off guard too. Oh well, onward.
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Post by zaclord 🌈 on Jul 7, 2021 22:54:11 GMT -5
Tyler Hubbard was on FGL's "Long Live", McGraw's "Undivided", AND Chase Rice's current song whatever it's called all within the top 20 at the same time awhile ago. Playing "Drunk" should have absolutely no bearing on "Settling Down"'s success. Period.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2021 23:52:17 GMT -5
Tyler Hubbard was on FGL's "Long Live", McGraw's "Undivided", AND Chase Rice's current song whatever it's called all within the top 20 at the same time awhile ago. Playing "Drunk" should have absolutely no bearing on "Settling Down"'s success. Period. That’s true but all 3 of those songs will not even be remembered in a year. “Drunk and I don’t want to go home” is gonna be a monster hit! “Settling Down” is also a moderate hit for Miranda....It didn’t flop and will finish with a top 5 peak. I’m pretty sure Lauren Alaina, Mickey Guyton and others would kill for a top 5.
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Post by zaclord 🌈 on Jul 8, 2021 8:55:16 GMT -5
Tyler Hubbard was on FGL's "Long Live", McGraw's "Undivided", AND Chase Rice's current song whatever it's called all within the top 20 at the same time awhile ago. Playing "Drunk" should have absolutely no bearing on "Settling Down"'s success. Period. That’s true but all 3 of those songs will not even be remembered in a year. “Drunk and I don’t want to go home” is gonna be a monster hit! “Settling Down” is also a moderate hit for Miranda....It didn’t flop and will finish with a top 5 peak. I’m pretty sure Lauren Alaina, Mickey Guyton and others would kill for a top 5. Which kind of proves even more why "Drunk" shouldn't be affecting "Settling Down" at all. Why let 3 mediocre, forgettable songs featuring the same person co-exist in the top 20 but kill off a good, moderate hit just to let a potentially even bigger hit move into the top 40? If both songs were top 10 at the same time, I could maybe see an argument to siphon spins from "Settling Down" to give to "Drunk", but the latter is just reaching the top 40. Radio can continue to increase "Settling Down" for another month to get it to #1.
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