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Post by degen on Aug 12, 2020 15:10:51 GMT -5
Inspired by the “How Will I Know” vs “Emotions” thread.
Here we have the quintessential 80s female pop hit vs the most influential 90s female pop hit. “Dance” has undoubtedly become the signature 80s hit in the streaming era, and probably Whitney’s second most recognized hit of all time. “Fantasy” opened the door for pop females to feature rappers on their songs, a formula that has been essential for over 25 years now. It also sits high up in Mariah’s catalog, maybe the 2nd or 3rd most recognized song she has.
So which one wins for cultural relevancy?
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Post by #LisaRinna on Aug 12, 2020 16:03:25 GMT -5
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Post by Dreams on Aug 12, 2020 18:20:00 GMT -5
Cultural relevancy? The "Fantasy" remix. Whitney's song was a very successful dancepop song of the decade but it's not like it was any more influential than say "Girls Just Wanna Have Fun," "The Way You Make Me Feel" or "Into The Groove".
(Personal preferece? I choose "I Wanna Dance With Somebody".)
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Post by Private Dancer on Aug 12, 2020 18:26:43 GMT -5
I Wanna Dance With Somebody
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Post by 🇯🇲 lucy88 🇯🇲 on Aug 12, 2020 19:44:54 GMT -5
I Wanna Dance With Somebody.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2020 13:43:14 GMT -5
Whitney here
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Post by The Black Bird on Aug 13, 2020 14:10:05 GMT -5
Sweet Sweet Fantasy Baby....
The 90's kid in me wouldn't let me choose otherwise.
IWDWS is amazing though.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2020 16:23:45 GMT -5
Both of these songs are great, but I've got to go with Whitney here.
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Post by Caviar on Aug 13, 2020 17:01:56 GMT -5
Whitney all the way.
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Post by dbhmr on Aug 13, 2020 19:41:31 GMT -5
"I Wanna Dance with Somebody" is a virtually untouchable dance floor staple. "Fantasy" is groundbreaking, but outmatched here.
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Post by Au$tin on Aug 13, 2020 21:02:51 GMT -5
Whitney, and it's not even close. Pretty sure I've heard "Dance" in passing during the entire pandemic than I've heard "Fantasy" in passing ever. Like, I'm pretty sure most, if not all, of my friends know "Dance." I'd be surprised if any of them knew "Fantasy." "Dance" is just that song for everyone.
I think a much more interesting and debatable cultural relevancy discussion would arise from "I Will Always Love You" versus "All I Want for Christmas."
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Post by Ling-Ling on Aug 13, 2020 22:19:27 GMT -5
Whitney for this one. That song has just transcended to another level over the past decade. "Fantasy" ain't nothing to sneeze at, but Mariah has had songs surpass it.
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Post by born on Aug 14, 2020 3:19:46 GMT -5
Whitney, and it's not even close. Pretty sure I've heard "Dance" in passing during the entire pandemic than I've heard "Fantasy" in passing ever. Like, I'm pretty sure most, if not all, of my friends know "Dance." I'd be surprised if any of them knew "Fantasy." "Dance" is just that song for everyone. I think a much more interesting and debatable cultural relevancy discussion would arise from "I Will Always Love You" versus "All I Want for Christmas." This. Every single word is true.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Aug 15, 2020 0:56:38 GMT -5
Whitney. When "Dance" comes on at the club, the way EVERYONE always pops off says it all.
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Post by Stefan85 on Jun 16, 2022 14:44:24 GMT -5
Fantasy being forgotten did not age well. 💀😂
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Post by CF15 on Jun 16, 2022 16:56:49 GMT -5
Hard to say. If this poll was based on picking the song you enjoy more, it would probably be "Fantasy" for me. But it seems like Whitney's song is probably considered a bit more iconic and impactful.
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Post by jdanton2 on Jun 16, 2022 17:21:04 GMT -5
Whitney but both songs are very overrated and both have much better songs.
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Post by beyoncelover on Jun 16, 2022 20:53:59 GMT -5
Love both songs but I love "Fantasy" more.
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Post by Ernesto on Jun 16, 2022 21:01:43 GMT -5
Both great records but Mariah's record is my favourite of the two. Voted for "Fantasy."
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Post by dbhmr on Jun 16, 2022 23:36:26 GMT -5
Both great records but Mariah's record is my favourite of the two. Voted for "Fantasy." Not the poll question tho
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Post by Ernesto on Jun 17, 2022 2:45:43 GMT -5
Both great records but Mariah's record is my favourite of the two. Voted for "Fantasy." Not the poll question tho Both great records but Mariah's record is my favourite of the two. Voted for "Fantasy."
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Post by groovetheory on Jun 25, 2022 13:37:39 GMT -5
Fantasy is the better record IMO, timeless and keeps on giving. IWDWS is also awesome, definitely the bigger hit and has had more impact so it wins in this poll.
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Post by toomuchboy on Jun 25, 2022 14:02:45 GMT -5
"I Wanna Dance with Somebody (Who Loves Me)."
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Post by Me. I Am l!nk!nfan815... on Jun 30, 2022 22:16:14 GMT -5
Fantasy is the better record IMO, timeless and keeps on giving. IWDWS is also awesome, definitely the bigger hit and has had more impact so it wins in this poll. Arguably, both songs are equally impactful. However, saying that IWDWS is the bigger hit is simply incorrect. Fantasy is the bigger hit out of the two and that’s not an opinion.
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Post by groovetheory on Jul 2, 2022 10:22:36 GMT -5
Fantasy is the better record IMO, timeless and keeps on giving. IWDWS is also awesome, definitely the bigger hit and has had more impact so it wins in this poll. Arguably, both songs are equally impactful. However, saying that IWDWS is the bigger hit is simply incorrect. Fantasy is the bigger hit out of the two and that’s not an opinion. I think it depends on what we define what a hit is. I guess you mean chart-wise Fantasy is the bigger hit but isn't that only true for US? If we look at the current stats, IWDWS seems to be more popular of the two worldwide.
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Post by jenglisbe on Jul 2, 2022 10:28:10 GMT -5
In terms of pop culture, I'd go with "IWDWS."
For Mariah I think "Always Be My Baby" would be a better fit here as it's been used more in movies, series, etc.
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Post by Private Dancer on Jul 2, 2022 10:43:05 GMT -5
Arguably, both songs are equally impactful. However, saying that IWDWS is the bigger hit is simply incorrect. Fantasy is the bigger hit out of the two and that’s not an opinion. I think it depends on what we define what a hit is. I guess you mean chart-wise Fantasy is the bigger hit but isn't that only true for US? If we look at the current stats, IWDWS seems to be more popular of the two worldwide. To add on yes IWDWS is the bigger hit. From what I've heard IWDWS felt bigger than Fantasy at their peaks
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Post by jenglisbe on Jul 2, 2022 10:55:36 GMT -5
I think it depends on what we define what a hit is. I guess you mean chart-wise Fantasy is the bigger hit but isn't that only true for US? If we look at the current stats, IWDWS seems to be more popular of the two worldwide. To add on yes IWDWS is the bigger hit. From what I've heard IWDWS felt bigger than Fantasy at their peaks From what you've heard from whom? And how does one even measure that? I think "Fantasy" was bigger initially (i.e. at time of release) but "Dance" has definitely maintained a bigger relevancy. Having said that, I don't know why are comparing these two specific songs.
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Post by Private Dancer on Jul 2, 2022 12:21:20 GMT -5
To add on yes IWDWS is the bigger hit. From what I've heard IWDWS felt bigger than Fantasy at their peaks From what you've heard from whom? And how does one even measure that? I think "Fantasy" was bigger initially (i.e. at time of release) but "Dance" has definitely maintained a bigger relevancy. Having said that, I don't know why are comparing these two specific songs. I know someone who was alive during the time period of Fantasy/IWDWS and I asked for their experience To sum it up: IWDWS did feel bigger than Fantasy at their peak. They remember in the summer of 87, the song being on 3 radio stations at once!!! (i would turn it off at that point.) Not only that, but it was played more and even played well into the next year. It came on MTV a lot, and everyone from young to old at the time knew what the song was. Everyone enjoyed it and knew what it was. He compared it to Rihanna's Umbrella and Pharrell's Happy. (ew) It was inescapable. H Fantasy was huge, however, did not feel like the same way IWDWSD. He said Fantasy was played a lot and also came on MTV a lot in '95, but did not have the same feel as Whitney's. According to him, Fantasy felt like those songs that were popular with the younger crowd, like teens and kids. I assume one can measure what feels huge off of their experience. If someone asked me what songs seemed huger at the time, I could measure it from my experience. To give some data...IWDWS Went to #1 in 14-18 countries and sold very well for a time period that it did. Fantasy did debut at #1 and went to #1 in four of five countries. Different eras for charts.IWDWS also hit the top ten of many of its year end charts and Fantasy only a couple that were non US. If BDS was measuring airplay in 87, ( well, they did) and BB was using the stats. I'm pretty sure IWDWS would've been a top ten debut possibly #1 like Fantasy. (IJCSLY By Mj and LAP by Madonna would've also debuted at #1, and MYM possibly top ten).
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Post by jenglisbe on Jul 2, 2022 13:30:01 GMT -5
From what you've heard from whom? And how does one even measure that? I think "Fantasy" was bigger initially (i.e. at time of release) but "Dance" has definitely maintained a bigger relevancy. Having said that, I don't know why are comparing these two specific songs. I know someone who was alive during the time period of Fantasy/IWDWS and I asked for their experience To sum it up: IWDWS did feel bigger than Fantasy at their peak. They remember in the summer of 87, the song being on 3 radio stations at once!!! (i would turn it off at that point.) Not only that, but it was played more and even played well into the next year. It came on MTV a lot, and everyone from young to old at the time knew what the song was. Everyone enjoyed it and knew what it was. He compared it to Rihanna's Umbrella and Pharrell's Happy. (ew) It was inescapable. H Fantasy was huge, however, did not feel like the same way IWDWSD. He said Fantasy was played a lot and also came on MTV a lot in '95, but did not have the same feel as Whitney's. According to him, Fantasy felt like those songs that were popular with the younger crowd, like teens and kids. I assume one can measure what feels huge off of their experience. If someone asked me what songs seemed huger at the time, I could measure it from my experience. To give some data...IWDWS Went to #1 in 14-18 countries and sold very well for a time period that it did. Fantasy did debut at #1 and went to #1 in four of five countries. Different eras for charts.IWDWS also hit the top ten of many of its year end charts and Fantasy only a couple that were non US. If BDS was measuring airplay in 87, ( well, they did) and BB was using the stats. I'm pretty sure IWDWS would've been a top ten debut possibly #1 like Fantasy. (IJCSLY By Mj and LAP by Madonna would've also debuted at #1, and MYM possibly top ten). Was that one person you are basing this on phieaglesfan712?
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