HDD 9/25: TS #1 85k, PS #1, AK #4, KU #6, MY&BY #8, LT #10

[felipe]

Sept 19, 2020 15:05:31 GMT -5 kierz7 said:

Alicia Keys’ First Week #’s.

• SIAM: 236K
• DOAK: 618K
• AIA: 742K
• TEOF: 417K
• GOF: 160K
• Here: 50K

If “Again” can cross the 50K mark (and debut in the top three) then that would be fantastic.

All in all, Keys’ peak circa. 2001-2007 was absolutely huge and I think many, today especially, forget that.

True. Alicia was as big as Beyoncé in the 00s, maybe bigger.

[Baby Yoda Hot100Fan]

^They were #5 and #4,respectively on the Decade-End Artist chart. So yeah, pretty close.

[Baby Yoda Hot100Fan]

TOP 20: WILL TAY ROLL A SEVEN?

Tuesday, September 22, 2020

The top of the chart is still too close to call as Taylor Swift pulls ahead for a possible seventh non-consecutive week at #1.

1. Taylor Swift (Republic) 80-90k total activity, 40-50k albums
2. Pop Smoke (Victor Victor/Republic) 75-85k, <1k
3. Youngboy Never Broke Again (NBA/Atlantic) 60-65k, 9-12k
4. Alicia Keys (RCA) 55-60k, 45-50k*
5. Juice WRLD (Grade A/Interscope) 50-55k, <1k
6. Hamilton (Uptown/Atlantic) 35-40k, 2-4k
7. Lil Baby (Quality Control/Motown/Capitol) 35-40k, <1k
8. Keith Urban (Capitol Nashville) 35-40k, 27-30k*
9. Moneybagg Yo & Blac Youngsta (N-Less/Interscope) 33-38k, ~1k*
10. Lil Tecca (Galactic/Republic) 30-35k, 3-4k*
11. Rod Wave (Alamo/Geffen/Interscope) 27-30k, <1k
12. Post Malone (Republic) 27-30k, 1-2k
13. DaBaby (SCMG/Interscope) 25-28k, <1k
14. Harry Styles (Columbia) 24-27k, 4-6k
15. Polo G (Columbia) 21-24k, <1k
16. Luke Combs (River House/Columbia Nashville) 21-24k, 1-2k
17. Internet Money (Internet Money/TenThousand) 21-24k, <1k
18. Big Sean (G.O.O.D/Def Jam) 21-24k, 1-2k
19. The Weeknd (XO/Republic) 19-22k, 1-3k
20. Toosii (South Coast) 19-22k, <1k*

*Debuts

In quarantine news, we're still figuring out what to pack for our upcoming trip to the mailbox.

[Verisimilitude]

Good debut for Alicia.

[Wave.]

I like that title, Baby Yoda Hot100Fan.

There was something that I was pondering earlier: Why is that Ms.Keys gets a 50k+debut, and gets no shit for it, but Katy Perry can get a 50k debut and shes "over", "flop"?. They are obviously two different big artists, had hits upon hits, but why is one getting more fanfare than the other? Here mainly. Just a thought tis all.

[Baby Yoda Hot100Fan]

^Thanks. With regard to your question, I think that Katy got more attention for her album because of two reasons, one being that she had recently had more success in both the albums and singles chart, so the expectation for her album was higher, and two because she had some high profile appearances performing songs from it. Alicia, by comparison, has been lo-key in both aspects and considered a legacy or niche artist. Perhaps Katy will be considered one for her next album, assuming she releases one.

[jodakyellow]

Sept 21, 2020 12:49:26 GMT -5 Choco said:

What I don't get is how the random EPs of the same songs work in it's favor... does anyone actually stream that? The album is right there.

I also find that surprising.. It's not like the different combination/order of songs makes for such a remarkably different experience that you have to listen to each chapter ...

[forg]

How close is folklore to 1M sales?

[strongerq]

Sept 22, 2020 18:45:41 GMT -5 forg said:

How close is folklore to 1M sales?

60-70k away from 1M with this week included.

[nickd]

Sept 19, 2020 17:32:46 GMT -5 Choco said:

I think if tour bundles had been in play Katy would have decimated Alicia's numbers (see Witness opening well in spite of a much worse reception than Smile).

And Alicia is holding on to 100% of her previous first week numbers, which is not easy for any act these days.

Did she have any bundles with her previous release?

[nickd]

Sept 22, 2020 18:22:03 GMT -5 Baby Yoda Hot100Fan said:

^Thanks. With regard to your question, I think that Katy got more attention for her album because of two reasons, one being that she had recently had more success in both the albums and singles chart, so the expectation for her album was higher, and two because she had some high profile appearances performing songs from it. Alicia, by comparison, has been lo-key in both aspects and considered a legacy or niche artist. Perhaps Katy will be considered one for her next album, assuming she releases one.

Yeah, Alicia Keys peaked in 2001-2008, Katy peaked in 2010-2014, so Alicia no longer dominating the charts has been considered old news for a while.

[Baby Yoda Hot100Fan]

^Yes, she does have merch bundles.

[borneoman]

What about ava max? not even top 20?

[Baby Yoda Hot100Fan]

^Sad to say. Not much streaming for her. Mostly pure sales I would dare say, although remaining in the top 6 of iTunes since its release doesn't amount to much nowadays.

[kierz7]

Sept 22, 2020 17:59:00 GMT -5 Wave. said:

I like that title, Baby Yoda Hot100Fan.

There was something that I was pondering earlier: Why is that Ms.Keys gets a 50k+debut, and gets no s**t for it, but Katy Perry can get a 50k debut and shes "over", "flop"?. They are obviously two different big artists, had hits upon hits, but why is one getting more fanfare than the other? Here mainly. Just a thought tis all.

Alicia Keys debuted in 2001, and as of 2020 is 19 years into her career.

Katy Perry debuted in 2008, and as of 2020 is 12 years into her career.

Alicia Keys is an R&B/Neo-Soul-oriented artist who, despite her obvious fame and singles success, never created music that was solely targeted to Pop radio. She was never viewed as a ‘Pop star’, but a crossover niche star instead, and doesn’t have a big social media presence.

Katy Perry is a Pop/Dance artist whose biggest commercial achievements are through that of her singles and she is viewed as a Pop star and does have a big social media presence.

Albeit Perry was never a strong album seller in the first place, and the fact that she debuted much closer to the streaming era and was a chart-topping force merely a few years ago, it does beg the question of her where her ‘fanbase’ has gone for her last two releases to have performed so abysmally yet Lady Gaga (her most direct peer) and Taylor Swift are still performing very well?

***

Of Keys’ peers, only Beyonce is seeing better albums success. Usher, Pink and Justin Timberlake also but to a lesser extent and varying degrees. Britney Spears hasn’t for almost a decade for obvious reasons and Christina Aguilera hasn’t been a force since 2006/2008.

There’s also Rihanna who debuted in between the early 00’s & late 00’s acts and has EASILY survived the Digital + Streaming eras.

[ificanthaveyou]

Anyone know the last album to hit 1 million in pure sales?

jk apparently it’s Lover. Anyone know the last album before Lover to sell 1 million pure?

[strongerq]

Sept 25, 2020 3:34:51 GMT -5 ificanthaveyou said:

Anyone know the last album to hit 1 million in pure sales?

jk apparently it’s Lover. Anyone know the last album before Lover to sell 1 million pure?

ASIB sold over 1M but not in a single tracking year

The last album (excluding Lover) to sell 1M+ in a tracking year is:

ificanthaveyou  updated

[ificanthaveyou]

Sept 25, 2020 3:38:21 GMT -5 strongerq said:

Sept 25, 2020 3:34:51 GMT -5 ificanthaveyou said:

Anyone know the last album to hit 1 million in pure sales?

jk apparently it’s Lover. Anyone know the last album before Lover to sell 1 million pure?

ASIB sold over 1M but not in a single tracking year

The last album (excluding Lover) to sell 1M+ in a tracking year is:

ificanthaveyou  updated

Wow thank you for the quick info! Crazy to think that since 2017 she’d have done it with Reputation, Lover, and folklore soon. Such consistency!

[strongerq]

hitsdailydouble.com/news&id=323344&title=YOUR-SWIFT-AND-SMOKIN%27-EARLY-TOP-20

YOUR SWIFT AND SMOKIN' EARLY TOP 20

Taylor Swift gets a seventh non-consecutive week at #1, driven by signed CDs at her web store and at indie retail. How big will her number be? Will Pop Smoke hold as the runner-up and once again give Republic the Top 2 albums? Check back this afternoon for the final HITS Top 50.

[nickd]

1 TAYLOR SWIFT | FOLKLORE
REPUBLIC
85,540 89% 56,674 984 27,881


7th week at #1 on HDD, so it looks like she'll beat the BB200 female record for most career-wide weeks at #1.

[strongerq]

hitsdailydouble.com/sales_plus_streaming

LW	TW	Artist	Title	Label	Total	Change	Albums	TEA	SEA
4	1	TAYLOR SWIFT	FOLKLORE	REPUBLIC	85,540	89%	56,674	984	27,881
2	2	POP SMOKE	SHOOT FOR THE STARS AIM FOR THE MOON	VICTOR VICTOR/REPUBLIC	78,703	5%	1,136	1,036	76,531
1	3	YOUNGBOY NEVER BROKE AGAIN	TOP	NEVER BROKE AGAIN/ATLANTIC	62,929	-50%	9,394	188	53,347
--	4	ALICIA KEYS	ALICIA	RCA	59,218	--	48,607	942	9,669
3	5	JUICE WRLD	LEGENDS NEVER DIE	GRADE A/INTERSCOPE	49,264	-9%	375	728	48,161
--	6	KEITH URBAN	THE SPEED OF NOW PART 1	CAPITOL NASHVILLE	40,218	--	29,963	2,173	8,082
5	7	HAMILTON	ORIGINAL BROADWAY CAST	UPTOWN/ATLANTIC	37,886	-10%	3,527	351	34,008
--	8	MONEYBAGG YO & BLAC YOUNGSTA	CODE RED	N-LESS/INTERSCOPE	37,408	--	1,532	659	35,218
7	9	LIL BABY	MY TURN	QUALITY CONTROL/MOTOWN/CAPITOL	36,247	-11%	138	271	35,839
--	10	LIL TECCA	VIRGO WORLD	GALACTIC/REPUBLIC	35,379	--	3,633	182	31,564
10	11	POST MALONE	HOLLYWOOD'S BLEEDING	REPUBLIC	27,797	-5%	1,146	621	26,030
8	12	ROD WAVE	PRAY 4 LOVE	ALAMO/GEFFEN/INTERSCOPE	27,708	-10%	62	207	27,439
--	13	TOOSII	POETIC PAIN	SOUTH COAST	26,151	--	3,072	138	22,941
11	14	DABABY	BLAME IT ON BABY	SCMG/INTERSCOPE	26,064	-9%	100	631	25,332
14	15	LUKE COMBS	WHAT YOU SEE IS WHAT YOU GET	RIVER HOUSE/COLUMBIA NASHVILLE	25,705	14%	1,842	1,376	22,487
13	16	HARRY STYLES	FINE LINE	COLUMBIA	24,261	-3%	5,841	815	17,606
12	17	POLO G	THE GOAT	COLUMBIA	23,222	-8%	65	189	22,968
6	18	BIG SEAN	DETROIT 2	G.O.O.D/DEF JAM	22,127	-46%	1,022	321	20,784
24	19	BAD BUNNY	YHLQMDLG	RIMAS	21,539	20%	271	157	21,111
17	20	INTERNET MONEY	B4 THE STORM	INTERNET MONEY/TENTHOUSAND	21,398	-2%	51	182	21,165
15	21	THE WEEKND	AFTER HOURS	XO/REPUBLIC	20,618	-7%	1,635	966	18,017
19	22	MORGAN WALLEN	IF I KNOW ME	BIG LOUD	20,097	-1%	1,055	725	18,317
22	23	LUKE COMBS	THIS ONE'S FOR YOU	RIVER HOUSE/COLUMBIA NASHVILLE	19,293	2%	1,274	597	17,421
16	24	GUNNA	WUNNA	YOUNG STONER LIFE	19,063	-13%	27	94	18,942
18	25	JUICE WRLD	GOODBYE & GOOD RIDDANCE	GRADE A/INTERSCOPE	18,697	-9%	302	116	18,279
--	26	AVA MAX	HEAVEN & HELL	ATLANTIC	18,683	--	6,861	1,229	10,592
20	27	LIL UZI VERT	ETERNAL ATAKE	GENERATION NOW/ATLANTIC	17,880	-9%	97	47	17,736
25	28	LEWIS CAPALDI	DIVINELY UNINSPIRED TO A HELLISH EXTENT	VERTIGO BERLIN/CAPITOL	17,374	-2%	602	692	16,080
27	29	BILLIE EILISH	WHEN WE ALL FALL ASLEEP, WHERE DO WE GO?	DARKROOM/INTERSCOPE	16,107	-6%	2,737	278	13,092
26	30	RODDY RICCH	PLEASE EXCUSE ME FOR BEING ANTISOCIAL	BIRD VISION/ATLANTIC	15,763	-8%	114	113	15,535
23	31	TRAVIS SCOTT	ASTROWORLD	CACTUS JACK/GRAND HUSTLE/EPIC	15,754	-14%	587	141	15,027
28	32	JHENE AIKO	CHILOMBO	DEF JAM	15,379	-6%	177	161	15,040
29	33	POST MALONE	BEERBONGS & BENTLEYS	REPUBLIC	14,980	-7%	366	217	14,397
30	34	JUICE WRLD	DEATH RACE FOR LOVE	GRADE A/INTERSCOPE	14,923	-6%	323	94	14,506
33	35	QUEEN	GREATEST HITS 1	HOLLYWOOD	14,730	-5%	1,861	577	12,293
48	36	LADY GAGA	CHROMATICA	INTERSCOPE	14,541	28%	2,905	649	10,988
31	37	FUTURE	HIGH OFF LIFE	FREEBANDZ/EPIC	14,509	-8%	140	113	14,256
34	38	SUMMER WALKER	OVER IT	LVRN/INTERSCOPE	14,195	-4%	195	101	13,899
32	39	DRAKE	DARK LANE DEMO TAPES	OVO/REPUBLIC	14,183	-10%	50	120	14,013
35	40	KANE BROWN	MIXTAPE VOL. 1	RCA NASHVILLE/ZONE 4	13,854	-4%	120	810	12,924
--	41	TYLER CHILDERS	LONG VIOLENT HISTORY	HICKMAN HOLLER	13,720	--	9,007	270	4,443
36	42	OZUNA	ENOC	AURA	13,122	-8%	2,218	192	10,712
37	43	DRAKE	SCORPION	YMCMB/REPUBLIC	13,109	-6%	127	96	12,886
--	44	ACE FREHLEY	ORIGINS, VOL. 2	EONE	12,777	--	12,503	47	227
41	45	ELTON JOHN	DIAMONDS	ISLAND	12,685	-1%	1,294	668	10,723
39	46	POST MALONE	STONEY	REPUBLIC	12,131	-7%	228	122	11,782
38	47	JACK HARLOW	SWEET ACTION	GENERATION NOW/ATLANTIC	11,805	-12%	55	320	11,430
42	48	TAYLOR SWIFT	LOVER	REPUBLIC	11,573	-7%	1,499	185	9,888
40	49	DUA LIPA	FUTURE NOSTALGIA	WARNER	11,570	-10%	639	510	10,421
--	50	CHRIS STAPLETON	TRAVELLER	MERCURY NASHVILLE	11,080	--	1,586	449	9,045

[strongerq]

Based on estimates (mostly thanks due to numbers from oldbloke from UKmix): "Hollywood's Bleeding" has surpassed "DAMN." in total activity and is now the 9th best selling album in the Streaming Era(2015-).
Post Malone has 3 albums in top 10. "Stoney" is less than 100K units ahead of HB. So "Hollywood's Bleeding" will take his spot SOON^TM

[Enigma.]

Amazing increase for Chromatica, only after one video! Queen of boosts!

[Baby Yoda Hot100Fan]

Sept 25, 2020 16:24:36 GMT -5 Enigma. said:

Amazing increase for Chromatica, only after one video! Queen of boosts!

This also helped:

[Mayman]

Sept 25, 2020 15:53:31 GMT -5 strongerq said:

Based on estimates (mostly thanks due to numbers from oldbloke from UKmix): "Hollywood's Bleeding" has surpassed "DAMN." in total activity and is now the 9th best selling album in the Streaming Era(2015-).
Post Malone has 3 albums in top 10. "Stoney" is less than 100K units ahead of HB. So "Hollywood's Bleeding" will take his spot SOON^TM

Do you mind posting the full list with the numbers included? I'm wondering what else is there.

[strongerq]

Sept 25, 2020 23:28:59 GMT -5 Mayman said:

Do you mind posting the full list with the numbers included? I'm wondering what else is there.

Notes:

• 2020 is up to week 32 (we are currently in week 38). 2017-2020 is from oldbloke, 2016 is from Buzzangle (iirc).
  
• The units are using Billboard 200 formula (which has changed in the past years). RIAA for example counts pure sales for double albums twice. Hamilton has more than 2M pure copies (so that makes it at 7M+). -It was certified 7xP last week by RIAA.
  
• Purpose is top 10 (#6 most likely or #7).
  

What are the purple cells? - Album units frome pre-released singles from previous years. Example:

ASTROWORLD was released in August  2018, album units coming from the single Butterfly Effect in 2018 (Jan-Aug) are included in the 1,985,000 (2018 album units). Album units from the same single in 2017 are in purple (230,000 - 2017).

16-20 is 'ANTI', 'THE GREATEST SHOWMAN', 'More Life', 'Starboy', 'When We All Fall Asleep Where Do We Go?' all at ~3.6M range. IYRTITL, '24K Magic' & 'Invasion Of Privacy' are at ~3.5M. This is after 32 weeks in 2020. I can't go any lower because there will be albums missing most likely because lack of data.

[vantiboy3]

ALICIA KEYS ALICIA 59,218 -- 48,607



I'm betting her physical albums sales are gonna increase quite a bit with the final numbers. Girl had an absolutely huge promo campaign.

[myhouse911]

Sept 26, 2020 22:14:13 GMT -5 vantiboy3 said:

ALICIA KEYS ALICIA 59,218 -- 48,607



I'm betting her physical albums sales are gonna increase quite a bit with the final numbers. Girl had an absolutely huge promo campaign.

Those are the final numbers. Did you mean Billboard's numbers?