iHype.
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Post by iHype. on Oct 5, 2020 12:45:17 GMT -5
We have Billboard's handling of sales in 2020 to thank for once again as always for creating yet another historically laughable #1.
#1 on sales with less than 100k
#6 on streaming
Below top 75 on radio
= Hot 100 #1 apparently
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Post by thegreatdivine on Oct 5, 2020 12:49:03 GMT -5
he had 3 vinyl singles too. I guess they will be counted next week chart. I think I read the Vinyl singles will be delivered in either 12 or 16 weeks (I can't remember which exactly). I wonder if that will give it a boost later on in its chart run? *If it's still charting by then. This will have a bigger second week drop than the Scotts and the Scotts debuted with more streams, had more "longevity" on streaming and charted for 13 weeks total. This will be lucky to last 10 weeks. |
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Post by iggyamo on Oct 5, 2020 12:52:01 GMT -5
BTS stans are pretty pissed acting like they arenβt doing the same thing
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Post by Mayman on Oct 5, 2020 12:53:58 GMT -5
I think I read the Vinyl singles will be delivered in either 12 or 16 weeks (I can't remember which exactly). I wonder if that will give it a boost later on in its chart run? *If it's still charting by then. This will have a bigger second week drop than the Scotts and the Scotts debuted with more streams, had more "longevity" on streaming and charted for 13 weeks total. This will be lucky to last 10 weeks. I had no idea that The Scotts only got 13 weeks. For some reason I thought it hit 20 and went recurrent. |
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Post by shayonce on Oct 5, 2020 12:54:57 GMT -5
he had 3 vinyl singles too. I guess they will be counted next week chart. I think I read the Vinyl singles will be delivered in either 12 or 16 weeks (I can't remember which exactly). I wonder if that will give it a boost later on in its chart run? they're counted when they're shipped. so it might re-enter later with vinyl sales. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2020 12:55:00 GMT -5
itβs the fact that travis has almost had every 10th #1 on the Hot 100.
sicko mode 1080
highest in the room 1090
the scotts *1099*
franchise 1110
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Post by iHype. on Oct 5, 2020 12:55:31 GMT -5
M.I.A. at 45 is one of the oldest women to go #1.
The last woman older was Mariah last year, however the last woman older to hit #1 with a song in its initial run was Cher's Believe in 1999. (52 years old)
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Post by thegreatdivine on Oct 5, 2020 12:55:59 GMT -5
*If it's still charting by then. This will have a bigger second week drop than the Scotts and the Scotts debuted with more streams, had more "longevity" on streaming and charted for 13 weeks total. This will be lucky to last 10 weeks. I had no idea that The Scotts only got 13 weeks. For some reason I thought it hit 20 and went recurrent. Nope. This was it's chart run: The Scotts: 1 - 12 - 15 - 16 - 17 - 22 - 25 - 32 - 35 - 38 - 53 - 69 - 74 - OUT |
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Post by jaydoesnotknow on Oct 5, 2020 12:56:05 GMT -5
BTS stans are pretty pissed acting like they arenβt doing the same thing pissed cause BB tweeted breakdown of the sales for Dynamite last week but hasnβt tweeted the breakdown of Franchise sales this week. $1 physicals yet no shady tweets from BB yet? |
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Post by dovahduck on Oct 5, 2020 12:58:00 GMT -5
I think I read the Vinyl singles will be delivered in either 12 or 16 weeks (I can't remember which exactly). I wonder if that will give it a boost later on in its chart run? *If it's still charting by then. This will have a bigger second week drop than the Scotts and the Scotts debuted with more streams, had more "longevity" on streaming and charted for 13 weeks total. This will be lucky to last 10 weeks. "The Scotts" wasn't really given a radio push, right? |
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Post by strongerq on Oct 5, 2020 12:59:49 GMT -5
Hey, fhas would you mind dividing the sales by 2 in your spreadsheet in Excel and posting how the top 10 would look like with sales counting half. 10 sales = 1 point in your formula.
Reason for dividing sales by 2:
Billboard 250 paid streams = 1 sale
RIAA 150 paid streams = 1 sale
Rolling Stone 120 paid streams = 1 sale
UK chart 100 paid streams = 1 sale
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Post by ddlz on Oct 5, 2020 13:00:20 GMT -5
Like I said the other week, Billboard is creating an alternate reality. In real world, WAP never stopped being a #1. Many here will still continue to play dumb and deny this.
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Post by kierz7 on Oct 5, 2020 13:00:22 GMT -5
The BTS stans. BITCHING on Twitter about βPhysical bundlesβ as if βDynamiteβ wasnβt completely sales driven, comprised of almost two dozen remixes and a myriad of discounts.
Girl, please. β οΈ
This number one is hilarious and nothing but a product of a broken chart system but congrats. to Scott either way. Heβs in the record books.
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dovahduck
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Post by dovahduck on Oct 5, 2020 13:04:38 GMT -5
*If it's still charting by then. This will have a bigger second week drop than the Scotts and the Scotts debuted with more streams, had more "longevity" on streaming and charted for 13 weeks total. This will be lucky to last 10 weeks. "The Scotts" wasn't really given a radio push, right? Just checked, "The Scotts" peaked at #25 on urban, #8 on rhytmic, and #31 on Pop. So it really wasn't pushed that much. |
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Post by Myth X on Oct 5, 2020 13:05:03 GMT -5
Meanwhile the real #1 is #3 because the top 2 is fueled by website sales lol
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Post by livelightning on Oct 5, 2020 13:05:42 GMT -5
iβm really shaking??? travis got his 4th #1 iβm so happy And they were all for 1 week |
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Post by bigolefreak on Oct 5, 2020 13:05:48 GMT -5
YESSSSSSSSSS!!! TRAVIS SCOTT #1!!!!!!!!!
I'M SO HAPPY AAAAH. MY GOAT!
There's a sentiment online for the hip hop heads that his popularity / fame / exposure peaked in 2018 with SICKO MODE but alas... in 2020 here we are with the fastest accumulation of #1 singles (sorry ms. grande butera)
Nice to see that America is eating up *literally* Travis Scott after Rodeo is so much fun to witness. From the McDonalds burgers, to the fornite concert to the #1 singles Travis is having a great year!
(Y'all will reply to this with longevity... but who cares at this point in the year when half the #1s this year used #tactics from the pop girls to the rap stars. It's now commonplace)
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Post by kingvavis on Oct 5, 2020 13:07:33 GMT -5
I'm just gonna dream about 2015 for a bit
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Post by korbel16 on Oct 5, 2020 13:07:53 GMT -5
I wanted wap to be number 1 but would of been happy regardless if dynamite stayed number 1... but this....this is homophobic (excluding M.I.A)
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2020 13:08:58 GMT -5
but remember when everyone was happy bundles were βdone withβ just for more loopholes to be made? π
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Post by thegreatdivine on Oct 5, 2020 13:09:41 GMT -5
YESSSSSSSSSS!!! TRAVIS SCOTT #1!!!!!!!!! I'M SO HAPPY AAAAH. MY GOAT! There's a sentiment online for the hip hop heads that his popularity / fame / exposure peaked in 2018 with SICKO MODE but alas... in 2020 here we are with the fastest accumulation of #1 singles (sorry ms. grande butera) Nice to see that America is eating up *literally* Travis Scott after Rodeo is so much fun to witness. From the McDonalds burgers, to the fornite concert to the #1 singles Travis is having a great year! (Y'all will reply to this with longevity... but who cares at this point in the year when half the #1s this year used #tactics from the pop girls to the rap stars. It's now commonplace) It will matter when he drops his album and it doesn't serve any sort of longevity whatsoever. Or when he tries to push a single off it and it flops after it's first week. You may not have noticed but Travis' fanbase is streaming less and buying more, so while his next album may have a bigger debut than ASTROWORLD, it may very well not serve the kind of longevity ASTROWORLD had on streaming. |
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Post by οΌ³ο½ο½ο½ο½ο½ο½π€ο½ο½ on Oct 5, 2020 13:12:04 GMT -5
Weeks in the top 10
Blinding Lights 33
Rockstar 23
Watermelon Sugar 13
Savage Love 10
WAP 8
Laugh Now Cry Later 7
Dynamite 6
Mood 5
I Hope 3
Franchise 1
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Post by violentdreams on Oct 5, 2020 13:12:18 GMT -5
I can't even be mad at the artists for this anymore tbh. If Billboard wanted to change this, they could by reweighing sales to have significantly less impact, but they refuse to because they're hopelessly determined to keep song sales relevant, even if it means sacrificing their credibility in the process.
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Post by Myth X on Oct 5, 2020 13:12:30 GMT -5
BTS stans are pretty pissed acting like they arenβt doing the same thing The nerve They are so shameless. The only reason Dynamite is staying in the top 2 is because of website sales |
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Post by οΌ³ο½ο½ο½ο½ο½ο½π€ο½ο½ on Oct 5, 2020 13:17:54 GMT -5
Just like Kid Cudi, MIA deserved that #1!!!
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Post by Gary on Oct 5, 2020 13:25:04 GMT -5
I can't even be mad at the artists for this anymore tbh. If Billboard wanted to change this, they could by reweighing sales to have significantly less impact, but they refuse to because they're hopelessly determined to keep song sales relevant, even if it means sacrificing their credibility in the process. Sales should be more relevant. 1 digital download for instance brings in a lot more revenue than 1 stream Money directly out of the consumers pocket I don't see that changing, nor do I see it as a Billboard credibility issue |
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Post by dovahduck on Oct 5, 2020 13:25:25 GMT -5
I can't even be mad at the artists for this anymore tbh. If Billboard wanted to change this, they could by reweighing sales to have significantly less impact, but they refuse to because they're hopelessly determined to keep song sales relevant, even if it means sacrificing their credibility in the process. They're likely never going to down weigh the strengths of sales. The amount of ad revenue and attention that they get when a number one is announced is just too great. Especially when third party website announcements lead to people checking the Hot 100 just to make sure that a new number one did indeed happen. They love the attention that they get from stans. |
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Oct 5, 2020 13:26:47 GMT -5
Bundle Scott strikes again! So Franchise is #2 in Digital Song Sales even though it sold more Dynamite?
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Post by dovahduck on Oct 5, 2020 13:28:20 GMT -5
I can't even be mad at the artists for this anymore tbh. If Billboard wanted to change this, they could by reweighing sales to have significantly less impact, but they refuse to because they're hopelessly determined to keep song sales relevant, even if it means sacrificing their credibility in the process. Sales should be more relevant. 1 digital download for instance brings in a lot more revenue than 1 stream Money directly out of the consumers pocket I don't see that changing, nor do I see it as a Billboard credibility issue Although revenue is correlated to how popular a song is, a song does not need to make the most money in a week for it to be the most popular. Literally just look at "WAP" and "Harlem Shake" (I'm not too sure on the latter tbh), which weren't the highest earning songs of the week, but were clearly the most popular. |
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Post by strongerq on Oct 5, 2020 13:28:57 GMT -5
Bundle Scott strikes again! So Franchise is #2 in Digital Song Sales even though it sold more Dynamite? Digital Song Sales: #1 Dynamite 86,000 #2 FRANCHISE 40,000
Physical sales don't count here.
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