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Post by Eloqueen™ on Oct 31, 2020 16:51:07 GMT -5
omg it's the same people always expecting so much more for artists who are not their faves. nobody in their right mind should have been expecting positions to outsell thank u, next. album sales and streams are down in general, but beyond that, positions has ZERO hit singles and promo so far. the title track is literally yet to impact Hot 100. compare that to the lead-up to tun, where the whole world was waiting to hear what Ariana would release in the aftermath of Manchester, and then again in the aftermath of her ex-bf passing and her breaking off an engagement. that was a whole moment. 2018-19 was her year. that album essentially was the conclusion to a 10-month period where Ariana was in the headlines every single day. "tun" and "7 rings" both turned into memes, too. my whole twitter timeline was full of "one taught me love/patience/pain" tweets, swear to god. 240-260k is pretty good, especially considering her pop fans / locals are less passionate about this. I'm more interested in seeing how much longevity it's going to have. Damn girl. It's not that deep. Ain't nobody saying she flopped. When you build an audience, it grows and grows, you are coming off of your biggest era, are seen as THE stream queen in the era where streaming is king, and are seen as arguably the biggest it female, I don't think it is cRaZy to think she could acquire her biggest debut. Personally I don't think the album flopped or under-performed, but I don't think it is such a reach to think she could have pulled off bigger numbers (even if just under her last) and those pointing out the album's quality as a detriment to things could signal to that a bit. I know it ain't just some that are questioning her streaming figures. With that said, had I been an Ari stan and known about the leak, her merchandise bundles on TUN, remembered that TUN was coming after that Manchester situation, or her breakup etc (following her closely), maybe I wouldn't have personally been expecting more. Regardless no one was dragging her and most high-profile artists like her, Taylor, Billie, Drake are set to higher standards naturally. Comes with the territory.
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Post by fridayteenage on Oct 31, 2020 17:16:37 GMT -5
Notable solo 2nd weeks since 2017: Reputation 256k Lover 178k Thank U Next 151k Folklore 135k Invasion of Privacy 129k When We All Fall Asleep 118k Queen 95k Sweetener 75k Chromatica 64k Beautiful Trauma 64k
We'll see how well the public actually takes to the music next week, when it's not just curiosity/fanbase driven.
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Post by nickd on Oct 31, 2020 17:17:25 GMT -5
I wasn't really expecting a bigger debut than TUN. I know that artists often having their biggest debuts after their biggest era but TUN was kinda frontloaded. Not saying that as a drag, but it definitely smashed right out of the gate, with all the singles released either prior or concurrently with the album, a lot of hype going into the album's release week, and none of the singles received any major boost post album release beyond radio. So TUN was the kind of career peak album that you'd also expect to give the artist's career peak debut.
TUN was not like Billie Eilish's album. Billie's next album will most likely out-debut WWAFAWDWG since WWAFAWDWG and Bad Guy are what truly propelled her into mainstream, from an artist with a large cult following to one that everyone knew. WWAFAWDWG's consumption was also much more stable than TUN's, since it ended up being the bigger album in the long run despite the smaller debut week streams.
If Ariana ever overtakes TUN's debut units, I think she can only do it with an era even bigger than TUN, and for that to happen, she'd need more hype going into release than Positions had. She also released several singles between TUN and now (SWU, Boyfriend, Monopoly, ROM) so I don't think there was as much pent up demand for new music, not much new that happened in her personal life, and the music itself doesn't represent any kind of surprising change in artistic direction that would cause much conversation.
I'm actually surprised at how high the predictions are. Based on the streaming numbers, I'd expect something closer to 200k for TUN.
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Post by Eloqueen™ on Oct 31, 2020 17:25:45 GMT -5
I know that artists often having their biggest debuts after their biggest era but TUN was kinda frontloaded. This was where my line of thinking was. I assumed TUN was her "Thriller" so to speak and figures were destined to be bigger if not as big this go around. Admittedly I didn't follow TUN closely so wasn't aware it was so front-loaded or of a few other factors, just remember it opening really huge on streaming and her being inescapably everywhere for a while with a series of huge singles. Lol I had completely forgotten about "SWY" and I have never even heard of "Monopoly". Was that a stand alone? It will be interesting to see where the album goes from here for sure. And on a side note LOL at 69 dogging Trippie Red for his sales figures and Trippie is set to outsell 69's last release. Sweet karma.
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Post by strongerq on Oct 31, 2020 17:36:30 GMT -5
Just a reminder who is the biggest artist under Capitol Records. It is 2020
Like i said in an other place before, expectations were way too high for Ariana. For example take away thank u, next. Her biggest streaming week is 126.7M with Sweetener.
6 months later she releases tun and first week 307.1M + second week 168.6M (way higher than Sweetener's debut, but only 6 months apart, what changed ?). Apart from what Kim said about her being in the centre of media's attention (which is a big reason that boosed tun), here is somethign else. Thank U, Next was a "trap inspired" album after the success of her lead sngle a lot of hip-hop fans checked out her album (+Mac). She doesn't have the casual hip-hop listeners now. Even if this isn't that big it all adds up.
Everyone treated 'thank u, next' as the standard for Ariana.
When in reality it is the exception.
Personally expected a bit more ngl. But what i really expected was a bit better album.
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Post by nickd on Oct 31, 2020 17:49:58 GMT -5
I know that artists often having their biggest debuts after their biggest era but TUN was kinda frontloaded. This was where my line of thinking was. I assumed TUN was her "Thriller" so to speak and figures were destined to be bigger if not as big this go around. Admittedly I didn't follow TUN closely so wasn't aware it was so front-loaded or of a few other factors, just remember it opening really huge on streaming and her being inescapably everywhere for a while with a series of huge singles. Lol I had completely forgotten about "SWY" and I have never even heard of "Monopoly". Was that a stand alone? It will be interesting to see where the album goes from here for sure. And on a side note LOL at 69 dogging Trippie Red for his sales figures and Trippie is set to outsell 69's last release. Sweet karma. "Monopoly" was a standalone yeah, it was the first single released after TUN (2 months after the album in Apr 2019), and was a collaboration with Victoria Monet who's friends with Ariana and co-wrote a lot of her music (including TUN and 7 rings). "Monopoly" didn't make much noise though.
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Post by kimberly on Oct 31, 2020 17:50:37 GMT -5
I wasn't really expecting a bigger debut than TUN. I know that artists often having their biggest debuts after their biggest era but TUN was kinda frontloaded. Not saying that as a drag, but it definitely smashed right out of the gate, with all the singles released either prior or concurrently with the album, a lot of hype going into the album's release week, and none of the singles received any major boost post album release beyond radio. So TUN was the kind of career peak album that you'd also expect to give the artist's career peak debut. I'm not sure I'm following your reasoning for why TUN should have granted her new album a bigger debut. TUN was that bigger debut. She did something that was unheard of for women in pop, and dropped an album 6 months after her last, killing a single ("breathin") and cutting the Sweetener cycle short. They knew that there was demand for more Ariana, and her personal life would have been old news by the time they released it in late 2019 or early 2020 on a regular pop music schedule. reputation didn't open with bigger numbers than 1989. Changes didn't open with bigger numbers than Purpose. Rare didn't open with bigger numbers than Revival. Career peaks don't always translate into bigger debuts. I'm very interested in what Billie does with her next album. "my future" and "no time to die" didn't really stick, and "everything I wanted" wasn't the smash they hoped for, either. I will reiterate what I said earlier in a Billie thread, but she needs to collaborate with people (songwriters and producers) who are not her brother, imo. You can't serve the same dish everyday and expect people to be wowed. I'm bringing this up because I don't think there's a "guarantee" that her sophomore effort will have a bigger debut. It is likely, but people need to be interested. Yup, I agree. And I don't think that was her intention at all with this record. I watched her interview with Zach Sang, where she broke down each song and talked about how they wrote them etc, and she was saying she had the album ready and then it came down to whether to play the waiting game or release it asap. She went with the latter, because she thought "I'm an artist and this is my job, so if it's going to make people happy, why wait?" (Kind of along the lines of what Dua Lipa did with her album in March, I guess). She's keeping her relationship much more private this time around, and dating a normie (with a private insta might I add) so people outside of her circle aren't fully in the loop. Good for her, she needed this break. The same way I'm happy for Taylor and Joe, not that Joe is a normie but you know what I mean.
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Post by xyz on Oct 31, 2020 20:50:38 GMT -5
I wasnt expecting TUN numbers but this still feels short from her previous debut
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Post by nickd on Oct 31, 2020 22:11:47 GMT -5
I wasn't really expecting a bigger debut than TUN. I know that artists often having their biggest debuts after their biggest era but TUN was kinda frontloaded. Not saying that as a drag, but it definitely smashed right out of the gate, with all the singles released either prior or concurrently with the album, a lot of hype going into the album's release week, and none of the singles received any major boost post album release beyond radio. So TUN was the kind of career peak album that you'd also expect to give the artist's career peak debut. I'm not sure I'm following your reasoning for why TUN should have granted her new album a bigger debut. TUN was that bigger debut. She did something that was unheard of for women in pop, and dropped an album 6 months after her last, killing a single ("breathin") and cutting the Sweetener cycle short. They knew that there was demand for more Ariana, and her personal life would have been old news by the time they released it in late 2019 or early 2020 on a regular pop music schedule. reputation didn't open with bigger numbers than 1989. Changes didn't open with bigger numbers than Purpose. Rare didn't open with bigger numbers than Revival. Career peaks don't always translate into bigger debuts. I'm very interested in what Billie does with her next album. "my future" and "no time to die" didn't really stick, and "everything I wanted" wasn't the smash they hoped for, either. I will reiterate what I said earlier in a Billie thread, but she needs to collaborate with people (songwriters and producers) who are not her brother, imo. You can't serve the same dish everyday and expect people to be wowed. I'm bringing this up because I don't think there's a "guarantee" that her sophomore effort will have a bigger debut. It is likely, but people need to be interested. Yup, I agree. And I don't think that was her intention at all with this record. I watched her interview with Zach Sang, where she broke down each song and talked about how they wrote them etc, and she was saying she had the album ready and then it came down to whether to play the waiting game or release it asap. She went with the latter, because she thought "I'm an artist and this is my job, so if it's going to make people happy, why wait?" (Kind of along the lines of what Dua Lipa did with her album in March, I guess). She's keeping her relationship much more private this time around, and dating a normie (with a private insta might I add) so people outside of her circle aren't fully in the loop. Good for her, she needed this break. The same way I'm happy for Taylor and Joe, not that Joe is a normie but you know what I mean. I wasn't the one that said TUN should grant her a bigger debut, that was Eloqueen™. I disagreed and said that although career peak albums often lead to an even bigger debut week for the follow up, that pattern doesn't really apply here. The cases where that does apply are with albums following peaks that come earlier in an artist's career than Ariana's TUN peak. In those cases, the artist is still an up-and-coming when the peak album is released, and the peak album is what establishes them in the mainstream, so the debut week is often pretty small (reflective of their up-and-comer status) compared to the overall sales (reflective of a star artist's peak). That's more or less what you saw with 21, Fearless and Teenage Dream, which were all very big eras for the respective artists and had comparably modest debuts. Then their follow up albums had bigger debuts (25, Speak Now and Prism) despite being smaller eras commercially. So it's not just about the follow-up having a big debut but also about the peak era having a relatively small and "easy" to beat debut. But as I said, this doesn't apply to TUN because TUN had a pretty strong streaming debut relative to its cumulative totals. That's because Ariana was already well established in the mainstream, something that I'd argue happened during My Everything era, and had definitely happened by 2019. Plus the events in her personal life meant even more hype going into the era, so the TUN debut was going to be the opposite of small and easy to beat. Ariana isn't really any bigger now than on the week TUN was released (maybe bigger than when the lead came out but not really bigger than when the album came out), and her life has been more lowkey with no major artistic shift so that's why I think it makes sense for Positions to have a smaller debut than TUN.
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Post by thegreatdivine on Oct 31, 2020 22:51:59 GMT -5
Selling 260k of an album that was illegally downloaded leading up to its release in the middle of a pandemic is considered a flop? You people are crazy. The standard is much higher for artists like Drake and Taylor Swift. When you become a huge mainstream act (like Ariana did in the TUN era), the expectations for your releases are automatically higher, regardless of the conditions they're released under. It comes with the territory.
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Post by kimberly on Oct 31, 2020 22:53:32 GMT -5
Selling 260k of an album that was illegally downloaded leading up to its release in the middle of a pandemic is considered a flop? You people are crazy. The standard is much higher for artists like Drake and Taylor Swift. When you become a huge mainstream act (like Ariana did in the TUN era), the expectations for your releases are automatically higher, regardless of the conditions they're released under. It comes with the territory. sounds like something Drake would say
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Post by thegreatdivine on Oct 31, 2020 23:03:38 GMT -5
Being honest I think Ariana stans (being one myself) kinda dragged every other artist during the 2018-2019 period and I guess the 'expectation' to do better than that era kinda caught up with them (her stans) after all that **** talking lol. Anyone with sense and integrity kinda knows she was not going to do those numbers (or even higher) without the release of a hit single beforehand, or some anticipation behind it too. Even without that, it doesn't help that the album hasn't been very well received either. But I guess all the fans that had their favorite artist dragged by Ariana stans in that period are getting their little laughs this week. Which is fair (although I'm slightly FUMING , but this is how it goes) A very small subset of her fanbase on Twitter were dragging Folklore's streaming numbers, claiming her new album would outdo them and boasting about her outdoing Drake's numbers when they believed he would be dropping an album on the 23rd (because his birthday is the following day). Those people were clearly stans, but they seemed to believe she's currently a bigger artist than Taylor/Drake and in some instances referenced the amount of engagement her tweets about the upcoming album got as a sign that it would do massive numbers. I suspect the actual performance of the album will offer a sobering dish of humility. If Ariana/her fans are getting shaded or dragged on social media/any music forums, it's only because they shaded artists way bigger than Ariana first and for no apparent reason.
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Post by thegreatdivine on Oct 31, 2020 23:04:06 GMT -5
The standard is much higher for artists like Drake and Taylor Swift. When you become a huge mainstream act (like Ariana did in the TUN era), the expectations for your releases are automatically higher, regardless of the conditions they're released under. It comes with the territory. sounds like something Drake would say Well, it's the truth, so there.
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Post by Soundcl🕤ck on Oct 31, 2020 23:26:39 GMT -5
A very small subset of her fanbase on Twitter were dragging Folklore's streaming numbers, claiming her new album would outdo them and boasting about her outdoing Drake's numbers when they believed he would be dropping an album on the 23rd (because his birthday is the following day). Those people were clearly stans, but they seemed to believe she's currently a bigger artist than Taylor/Drake and in some instances referenced the amount of engagement her tweets about the upcoming album got as a sign that it would do massive numbers. I suspect the actual performance of the album will offer a sobering dish of humility. If Ariana/her fans are getting shaded or dragged on social media/any music forums, it's only because they shaded artists way bigger than Ariana first and for no apparent reason. overall, they are not even close, but she's bigger than Taylor in the last 2 years. Taylor is beating her in album sales only. Why are we talking about STANS ? People whose main goal in life is to get a like or be followed by their faves. There is an obvious intolerance between these 2 fanbases, and the main reason is Scooter, ofc. (as if they need a reason for something tho)
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Post by thegreatdivine on Nov 1, 2020 5:16:57 GMT -5
A very small subset of her fanbase on Twitter were dragging Folklore's streaming numbers, claiming her new album would outdo them and boasting about her outdoing Drake's numbers when they believed he would be dropping an album on the 23rd (because his birthday is the following day). Those people were clearly stans, but they seemed to believe she's currently a bigger artist than Taylor/Drake and in some instances referenced the amount of engagement her tweets about the upcoming album got as a sign that it would do massive numbers. I suspect the actual performance of the album will offer a sobering dish of humility. If Ariana/her fans are getting shaded or dragged on social media/any music forums, it's only because they shaded artists way bigger than Ariana first and for no apparent reason. overall, they are not even close, but she's bigger than Taylor in the last 2 years. Taylor is beating her in album sales only. Why are we talking about STANS ? People whose main goal in life is to get a like or be followed by their faves. There is an obvious intolerance between these 2 fanbases, and the main reason is Scooter, ofc. (as if they need a reason for something tho) While I agree that she's been the bigger overall mainstream act in the last 2 years, Taylor is beating her in more than just album sales. In 2019, despite Ariana having a 6-month headstart with TUN (which had bigger singles) and releasing Sweetner in August 2018, Taylor had more on-demand audio streams than her. As front-loaded as Taylor's eras have been post-1989, the exact same thing can be said about Ariana as her biggest era didn't even serve any sort of longevity. Taylor's biggest era, with the exception of maybe Adele's 21 era and Ed Sheeran's Divide era, served the most longevity/success of any in the last decade (omg, the Swiftie in me is really coming out, isn't it :kii: ).
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Post by bigolefreak on Nov 1, 2020 7:35:22 GMT -5
Being honest I think Ariana stans (being one myself) kinda dragged every other artist during the 2018-2019 period and I guess the 'expectation' to do better than that era kinda caught up with them (her stans) after all that **** talking lol. Anyone with sense and integrity kinda knows she was not going to do those numbers (or even higher) without the release of a hit single beforehand, or some anticipation behind it too. Even without that, it doesn't help that the album hasn't been very well received either. But I guess all the fans that had their favorite artist dragged by Ariana stans in that period are getting their little laughs this week. Which is fair (although I'm slightly FUMING , but this is how it goes) A very small subset of her fanbase on Twitter were dragging Folklore's streaming numbers, claiming her new album would outdo them and boasting about her outdoing Drake's numbers when they believed he would be dropping an album on the 23rd (because his birthday is the following day). Those people were clearly stans, but they seemed to believe she's currently a bigger artist than Taylor/Drake and in some instances referenced the amount of engagement her tweets about the upcoming album got as a sign that it would do massive numbers. I suspect the actual performance of the album will offer a sobering dish of humility. If Ariana/her fans are getting shaded or dragged on social media/any music forums, it's only because they shaded artists way bigger than Ariana first and for no apparent reason. Well actually Taylor fans have been trying Ariana unprovoked since that Reputation pop Grammy loss *her only nomination that year* (which is very weird because she literally has two AOTY wins.....), which got worse when Ariana had two back-back long lasting #1 singles at the time [unlike Taylor's previous short-lived #1s with Bad Blood (1 week), LWYMMD (3 weeks)] in the same eligibility cycle when Old Town Road said NO! to both of her new attempts. And then Taylor only spent one week at #1 on the BB200 ( tu,n spent more), and the metacritic scores failed to match thank u, next or even Sweetener. So that's where the resentment towards Ariana started from. As for Drake I have no idea where those "she's bigger than Drake" comparisons come from... maybe she's the only pop girl who has the best streaming stats that are comparable to his. But you have lost me there. I've seen the Scorpion Spotify Takeover thing mentioned, but again anyone with sense and integrity (and who does a little bit of research) knows that while Drake was on the cover of many playlists, songs from that album weren't even on that many playlists (and that did more harm than good) so that didn't contribute to the Scorpion numbers. Don't know where the Drake comparisons came from tho But yeah Ariana isn't the pop equivalent to Drake or bigger than Taylor Swift. She's more comparable to the likes of Travis Scott or Halsey. And that subset of Twitter trolls know that too, lol.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2020 7:35:39 GMT -5
I think 250k is a great number I think people are thinking she is a sales machine like Taylor, Drake, Adele her overall base isnt that huge, she has her consistent support and always comes in with consistently good numbers. I think people will never be satisfied because they expect her to reach that 700K out the box range but that's never been her.
Now Sam Smith yikes hunni. Michael Jackson would never..
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Post by strongerq on Nov 1, 2020 8:18:10 GMT -5
I saw 5/6 people mentioning this, so here it is.
Up till week 42 in 2020 (the previous week, where folklore is #1). This includes album units from pre-released singles. If the single was released in the previous year the units from 2018 are in purple. Album units from Sunflower (Oct-Dec), Album units from thak u, next (Nov-Dec) & Album units from you should see me in a crown/when the party's over. The album units from the single thank u, next (Jan-8th Feb) are included in 2019 total...
*btw this is using Billboard 200 formula/units, not RIAA. Even though since 2020 they are quite close.
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Post by HEADOFTHEPACK on Nov 1, 2020 15:43:41 GMT -5
0 relevant collabs? If Abel isn’t relevant in 2020, I don’t know who is.😂 \I think there is more interest towards The Weeknd's music conceptually than Abel himself which is why he doesn't guarantee hits to anyone. I think I get what you're saying, but, Blinding Lights.
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Post by Choco on Nov 1, 2020 19:27:54 GMT -5
I don't think anyone should have expected career best numbers for this project. There's hype but it's notably lower than what she had for her past two albums (she hasn't really been away this year actually, with two #1 hits). It was never going to top the previous album. Whether it dies next week or is a long lasting hit is the bigger question, but the debut numbers are fine.
Regarding Sam Smith, they took too long to release. And the big hits were a while ago. I love Diamonds but it was never going to help the album the same way their previous hits did. It's a really good record tho.
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Post by WolfSpear on Nov 2, 2020 9:15:00 GMT -5
So much to say here. Great debut for Ariana. I regard her as one of the top acts right now; unless you’re Taylor Swift, this is as good as it gets now. I’m not sure where the numbers will be this time in 2021, but the album market is deteriorating... I don't think anyone should have expected career best numbers for this project. There's hype but it's notably lower than what she had for her past two albums (she hasn't really been away this year actually, with two #1 hits). It was never going to top the previous album. Whether it dies next week or is a long lasting hit is the bigger question, but the debut numbers are fine. Regarding Sam Smith, they took too long to release. And the big hits were a while ago. I love Diamonds but it was never going to help the album the same way their previous hits did. It's a really good record tho. The Liam Effect... when the label isn’t quite sure so they release all these singles... everyone’s sitting on the album and it appears to never come. By the time it does, the interest has waned and no one cares about streaming the preview hits from last year.
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Post by Choco on Nov 4, 2020 18:21:12 GMT -5
I was defending her earlier numbers but under 200k is kinda... bad.
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Nov 4, 2020 18:24:58 GMT -5
Wednesday, November 4, 2020
Ariana Grande will debut at #1 on this Friday’s HITS chart with a total between 190-200k. TenThousand/Caroline’s Trippie Redd lands at #2 with Pegasus. Last Week’s champ, Luke Combs, drops to #4 with a very respectable 48k. Capitol's Sam Smith appears headed for a Top 10 bow. Stay tuned for updates, if you can stop refreshing the election results.
TITLES IN GOLD = DEBUTS
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Post by kierz7 on Nov 4, 2020 18:28:49 GMT -5
I was defending her earlier numbers but under 200k is kinda... bad. I- I’ll stand by my original opinion that this should’ve been an EP or a Mixtape ala. “More Life”. Hopefully she comes back MUCH STRONGER with her next studio album in 2022. 😶
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Post by thegreatdivine on Nov 4, 2020 18:35:23 GMT -5
I was defending her earlier numbers but under 200k is kinda... bad. I- I’ll stand by my original opinion that this should’ve been an EP or a Mixtape ala. “More Life”. Hopefully she comes back MUCH STRONGER with her next studio album in 2022. 😶 Girl, More Life did 505K SPS (225K sales) in 5 tracking days. Compare her with someone else, please, lol. Even Drake's surprise throwaway mixtape filled with demos/leaks released earlier this year debuted with bigger numbers and had a bigger album bomb than positions will.
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Post by thegreatdivine on Nov 4, 2020 18:36:39 GMT -5
Arianators all over the world right now.
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Nov 4, 2020 18:38:18 GMT -5
^^Not to mention that this new prediction is almost half of what thank u, next managed in its debut week.
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Post by Choco on Nov 4, 2020 18:38:41 GMT -5
I was defending her earlier numbers but under 200k is kinda... bad. I- I’ll stand by my original opinion that this should’ve been an EP or a Mixtape ala. “More Life”. Hopefully she comes back MUCH STRONGER with her next studio album in 2022. 😶 You really had to open up Pandora's box by bringing Drake's holy name into the thread... (I did understand and agree with what you were trying to say tho)
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Post by owenlovesmusic on Nov 4, 2020 18:43:17 GMT -5
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Post by Mazo on Nov 4, 2020 18:43:55 GMT -5
Being honest I think Ariana stans (being one myself) kinda dragged every other artist during the 2018-2019 period and I guess the 'expectation' to do better than that era kinda caught up with them (her stans) after all that **** talking lol. Anyone with sense and integrity kinda knows she was not going to do those numbers (or even higher) without the release of a hit single beforehand, or some anticipation behind it too. Even without that, it doesn't help that the album hasn't been very well received either. But I guess all the fans that had their favorite artist dragged by Ariana stans in that period are getting their little laughs this week. Which is fair (although I'm slightly FUMING , but this is how it goes) Ariana has never been a big seller. Streaming was her saving grace. She’s doing amazing for her standards.
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