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Post by areyoureadytojump on Nov 14, 2020 14:24:51 GMT -5
hitsdailydouble.com/news&id=324037&title=A-PLETHORA-OF-NEW-RELEASESSaturday, November 14, 2020 A PLETHORA OF NEW RELEASESAC/DC's Power Up (Columbia) will battle with Future & Lil Uzi Vert's Pluto x Baby Pluto project (Generation Now/Epic) for #1 on next week's HITS Top 50. One's weapon of choice will be sales, while the other will depend on streaming for the bulk of their total. A s**t-ton of new releases will impact the chart: Future & Lil Uzi Vert (Freebandz/Epic/Generation Now/Atlantic) 110-120k total activity, 2-4k albums AC/DC (Columbia) 105-115k, 100-110k Chris Stapleton (Mercury Nashville) 70-80k, 55-65k 2 Chainz (Gamebread/Def Jam) 25-28k, 1-2k Andrea Bocelli (Decca) 21-24k, 20-23k Youngboy Never Broke Again (Never Broke Again/Atlantic) 21-24k, 1-3k Pentatonix (RCA) 14-17k, 11-14k
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Post by starlord on Nov 14, 2020 14:51:47 GMT -5
hitsdailydouble.com/news&id=324037&title=A-PLETHORA-OF-NEW-RELEASES Saturday, November 14, 2020 A PLETHORA OF NEW RELEASES AC/DC's Power Up (Columbia) will battle with Future & Lil Uzi Vert's Pluto x Baby Pluto project (Generation Now/Epic) for #1 on next week's HITS Top 50. One's weapon of choice will be sales, while the other will depend on streaming for the bulk of their total. A s**t-ton of new releases will impact the chart: Future & Lil Uzi Vert (Freebandz/Epic/Generation Now/Atlantic) 110-120k total activity, 2-4k albums AC/DC (Columbia) 105-115k, 100-110k Chris Stapleton (Mercury Nashville) 70-80k, 55-65k 2 Chainz (Gamebread/Def Jam) 25-28k, 1-2k Andrea Bocelli (Decca) 21-24k, 20-23k Youngboy Never Broke Again (Never Broke Again/Atlantic) 21-24k, 1-3k Pentatonix (RCA) 14-17k, 11-14k Damn, even hitsdd is dissing the person who said "mmm slow week" on Hot 100 thread. Poor fellow.
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Post by Enigma. on Nov 14, 2020 15:27:22 GMT -5
I think AC/DC will get it, HDD tends to overestimate streaming-heavy albums in their first week (although they might overestimate AC/DC's sales too,who knows)
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Nov 14, 2020 16:08:24 GMT -5
^Agreed. It would depend on how streaming for Future & Uzi Vert holds up during the week. I would think it would tend to be frontloaded.
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Nov 17, 2020 19:06:13 GMT -5
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Post by Mayman on Nov 17, 2020 20:09:36 GMT -5
I think Future/Uzi's figures will rise due to the new deluxe edition that dropped earlier today.
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Nov 17, 2020 20:10:24 GMT -5
So I guess a few of the catalog albums will be benefiting from Walmart's vinyl sale. I would hope Rumours manages to end up in the top 10.
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Post by Nick on Nov 17, 2020 20:10:25 GMT -5
Good for AC/DC.
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Nov 17, 2020 20:35:16 GMT -5
Is that why Queen's GH is #7. BTW, it's 8xP. It could be Diamond if Hollywood Records would re-certify it.
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Post by aussie1 on Nov 18, 2020 2:36:01 GMT -5
Wasn't Taylor doing vinyls this week or something?
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Post by Normi on Nov 18, 2020 6:38:36 GMT -5
Where will BENEE chart?
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Post by Enigma. on Nov 18, 2020 6:50:38 GMT -5
So, the desperate deluxe by Future and Uzi isn't working? Or not taken into account yet?
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Nov 18, 2020 10:22:06 GMT -5
^I think the latter. But yeah, it does seem desperate. We'll see if AC/DC fans will respond in kind.
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Post by Naos on Nov 18, 2020 13:28:03 GMT -5
^I think the latter. But yeah, it does seem desperate. We'll see if AC/DC fans will respond in kind. They seem like the kind to not care about charts. Rock fans tend to not, because rock's mostly an irrelevant genre.
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Nov 19, 2020 17:13:42 GMT -5
^Classic rock is a big seller.
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Nov 19, 2020 17:48:37 GMT -5
Wasn't Taylor doing vinyls this week or something? She'll have an exclusive red vinyl 2 LP set at Target, but starting tomorrow. And the rest of the places should get vinyl sales starting on Black Friday.
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Post by WolfSpear on Nov 19, 2020 20:02:36 GMT -5
AC/DC will extend their #1 span to just shy of 39 years, dating back to the December 26, 1981 issue [For Those About Rock].
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Post by KeepDeanWeird on Nov 19, 2020 20:32:05 GMT -5
Wait, so after almost 30 years, Queen's 'Greatest Hits' will FINALLY hit the Top 10!
It's been stuck with a #11 peak since the 1992 version without BR was reissued. BR reassigned to 'Classic Queen,' a bizarre choice. It think it hit the Top 15 in 1981. It's been reissued at least three times ('We Will Rock You' version in 2004) in the US, but I think all versions track under this title for chart purposes.
The label could've gotten it to Top 10 when that movie came a few years ago, but they keep reassigning the streaming rights to The Platinum Collection and GH almost weekly. It's one of the oddest things I've noticed.
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Post by renfield75 on Nov 19, 2020 20:39:16 GMT -5
Wait, so after almost 30 years, Queen's 'Greatest Hits' will FINALLY hit the Top 10! It's been stuck with a #11 peak since the 1992 version without BR was reissued. BR reassigned to 'Classic Queen,' a bizarre choice. It think it hit the Top 15 in 1981. It's been reissued at least three times ('We Will Rock You' version in 2004) in the US, but I think all versions track under this title for chart purposes. The label could've gotten it to Top 10 when that movie came a few years ago, but they keep reassigning the streaming rights to The Platinum Collection and GH almost weekly. It's one of the oddest things I've noticed. It annoys me that that album has never made the top ten, after coming so close so many times and having the staying power it has had. I really hope it finishes in the top ten on Billboard. It's like when Bob Marley's Legend or ABBA's Gold finally made the top ten.
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Post by kimberly on Nov 19, 2020 20:40:17 GMT -5
Wasn't Taylor doing vinyls this week or something? Taylor's store shipped some pre-ordered vinyls last week, which is what boosted her numbers I believe, as album sales only count when the order is fulfilled now. I'm guessing they haven't done that this week/there were less orders left to ship. folklore deluxe will be available at Target beginning tomorrow, including a version with an alternate cover (one of the ones that were available for a week when the album first dropped). that should propel folklore back up the chart, into the Top 10 perhaps.
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Post by iHype. on Nov 19, 2020 20:42:11 GMT -5
The label could've gotten it to Top 10 when that movie came a few years ago, but they keep reassigning the streaming rights to The Platinum Collection and GH almost weekly. It's one of the oddest things I've noticed. Streaming/track sales for a song goes to to whichever album has the highest pure sales of the week that contains the song. The labels can't decide. It's a dumb rule and Queen showed how flawed it is for songs from studio albums appear on compilations.
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Post by KeepDeanWeird on Nov 19, 2020 23:14:52 GMT -5
The label could've gotten it to Top 10 when that movie came a few years ago, but they keep reassigning the streaming rights to The Platinum Collection and GH almost weekly. It's one of the oddest things I've noticed. Streaming/track sales for a song goes to to whichever album has the highest pure sales of the week that contains the song. The labels can't decide. It's a dumb rule and Queen showed how flawed it is for songs from studio albums appear on compilations. So Billboard reassigns? That's truly bizarre since the dictate where the track is 'sourced' on streaming platforms - the version that used for parent album and then all comps and playlists. Unless there a remix, single edit, etc. it's the same source track. But Billboard 'knows' better. Thanks for the info, proving, yet again, BILLBOARD KNOWS BEST.
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Post by WolfSpear on Nov 20, 2020 12:39:51 GMT -5
With album sales so low, that rule doesn’t have a place in today’s world.
I’m not sure how you would handle it. Personally, I would assign it to the parent album and let GH packages be determined strictly by sales. Too much of back and forth limits the credibility of what the chart measures.
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Post by iHype. on Nov 20, 2020 13:08:32 GMT -5
With album sales so low, that rule doesn’t have a place in today’s world. I’m not sure how you would handle it. Personally, I would assign it to the parent album and let GH packages be determined strictly by sales. Too much of back and forth limits the credibility of what the chart measures. Yes, I've said for a long time every song's streams/track sales should go to its original parent album (aka studio albums). Greatest Hits should only have streams/digital track sales for new songs included on them. Comparing any compilations to studio albums in the streaming era is unfair. Compilations have biggest singles (aka biggest streamers) specifically cherry-picked together, where a studio album with album tracks cannot compete obviously. If Drake/Post Malone did a Greatest Hits with all their singles it just be top 10 every single week for years lol. There's a reason NOW! Compilations also don't have streams/track sales, they'd hog up the entire chart every week. Including them with compilations is not comparable to studio albums at all.
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Nov 20, 2020 13:19:03 GMT -5
^Which reminds me how Sunflower's streams initially counted to the Spider-Man movie OST, but once Hollywood's Bleeding came out those counted toward the latter because of being the best seller of the two albums. In the case of parent albums vs. greatest hits, Guns 'n Roses Greatest Hits has chart most weeks in the Billboard but once in a while Appetite for Destruction will chart instead.
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Post by renfield75 on Nov 20, 2020 13:21:07 GMT -5
With album sales so low, that rule doesn’t have a place in today’s world. I’m not sure how you would handle it. Personally, I would assign it to the parent album and let GH packages be determined strictly by sales. Too much of back and forth limits the credibility of what the chart measures. Yes, I've said for a long time every song's streams/track sales should go to its original parent album (aka studio albums). Greatest Hits should only have streams/digital track sales for new songs included on them. Comparing any compilations to studio albums in the streaming era is unfair. Compilations have biggest singles (aka biggest streamers) specifically cherry-picked together, where a studio album with album tracks cannot compete obviously. If Drake/Post Malone did a Greatest Hits with all their singles it just be top 10 every single week for years lol. There's a reason NOW! Compilations also don't have streams/track sales, they'd hog up the entire chart every week. Including them with compilations is not comparable to studio albums at all. That also seems inaccurate for legacy artists though. Queen's 'A Night At The Opera' album hasn't been hugely popular over the last few years, their 'Greatest Hits' album has. When people want music from older artists they typically seek out greatest hits compilations, not the original parent album. It would be weird to see Bon Jovi's 'Slippery When Wet', the Red Hot Chili Peppers' 'BloodSugarSexMagic', or Bob Marley's 'Rastaman Vibration' on the Billboard 200 every week when people are clearly listening to the GH compilations. The reason Drake has so many albums on the 200 every week is precisely because he doesn't have a compilation. The minute he does that casual listeners will simply go to that and not bother with most of the older studio albums. That may be one reason he and Rihanna have never done one.
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Post by iHype. on Nov 20, 2020 13:33:46 GMT -5
Yes, I've said for a long time every song's streams/track sales should go to its original parent album (aka studio albums). Greatest Hits should only have streams/digital track sales for new songs included on them. Comparing any compilations to studio albums in the streaming era is unfair. Compilations have biggest singles (aka biggest streamers) specifically cherry-picked together, where a studio album with album tracks cannot compete obviously. If Drake/Post Malone did a Greatest Hits with all their singles it just be top 10 every single week for years lol. There's a reason NOW! Compilations also don't have streams/track sales, they'd hog up the entire chart every week. Including them with compilations is not comparable to studio albums at all. That also seems inaccurate for legacy artists though. Queen's 'A Night At The Opera' album hasn't been hugely popular over the last few years, their 'Greatest Hits' album has. When people want music from older artists they typically seek out greatest hits compilations, not the original parent album. It would be weird to see Bon Jovi's 'Slippery When Wet'the Red Hot Chili Peppers' 'BloodSugarSexMagic', or Bob Marley's 'Rastaman Vibration' on the Billboard 200 every week when people are clearly listening to the GH compilations. In streaming, having all the hits together is simply creatable through a playlist. I just feel Greatest Hits are now no different than just a playlist, so they really don't serve purpose in being measured on a chart imo. If Drake is getting 20 million streams via a 'Biggest Hits' playlist should that be chart eligible, or should the streams just go to the respective studio albums so we see what exactly is holding up with the biggest legacy? Also tracking Greatest Hits popularity in streaming is now pretty inaccurate because legacy artists like them have 5-10 different Greatest Hits albums uploaded on streaming. How exactly do we know which is being listened to? People just search a song, click play, and don't even pay attention in regards to what compilation its on. I doubt anyone is streaming directly 'The Essential Billy Joel' since it doesn't even come up when you search any of his hits on Spotify, but yet they're all arbitrarily lumped onto that random compilation. Having streams count towards a specific compilation just doesn't make sense in streaming. Bob Marley/Queen/Bon Jovi having their biggest hits scattered into respective studio albums wouldn't impact their total consumption/streaming as an artist though. The Artist 100 chart should be better improved to be based moreso on total equivalent units (like Rolling Stones artist chart), and we get a better idea how those legacy artists music actually stack up against each other overall in the streaming era.
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Post by renfield75 on Nov 20, 2020 13:49:01 GMT -5
That also seems inaccurate for legacy artists though. Queen's 'A Night At The Opera' album hasn't been hugely popular over the last few years, their 'Greatest Hits' album has. When people want music from older artists they typically seek out greatest hits compilations, not the original parent album. It would be weird to see Bon Jovi's 'Slippery When Wet'the Red Hot Chili Peppers' 'BloodSugarSexMagic', or Bob Marley's 'Rastaman Vibration' on the Billboard 200 every week when people are clearly listening to the GH compilations. In streaming, having all the hits together is simply creatable through a playlist. I just feel Greatest Hits are now no different than just a playlist, so they really don't serve purpose in being measured on a chart imo. If Drake is getting 20 million streams via a 'Biggest Hits' playlist should that be chart eligible, or should the streams just go to the respective studio albums so we see what exactly is holding up with the biggest legacy? Also tracking Greatest Hits popularity in streaming is now pretty inaccurate because legacy artists like them have 5-10 different Greatest Hits albums uploaded on streaming. How exactly do we know which is being listened to? People just search a song, click play, and don't even pay attention in regards to what compilation its on. I doubt anyone is streaming directly 'The Essential Billy Joel' since it doesn't even come up when you search any of his hits on Spotify, but yet they're all arbitrarily lumped onto that random compilation. Having streams count towards a specific compilation just doesn't make sense in streaming. Bob Marley/Queen/Bon Jovi having their biggest hits scattered into respective studio albums wouldn't impact their total consumption/streaming as an artist though. The Artist 100 chart should be better improved to be based moreso on total equivalent units (like Rolling Stones artist chart), and we get a better idea how those legacy artists music actually stack up against each other overall in the streaming era. They must have some way of figuring it out, because we still see some classic studio albums on the Billboard 200. Why does Rumours do better than Fleetwood Mac's Greatest Hits? Why are Thriller and Essential Michael Jackson usually both on the Billboard 200? Why does Eminem keep his studio albums and 'Curtain Call' on the chart simultaneously? Sales alone wouldn't be enough to get them all on every week. Some artists have classic albums like Thriller, Rumours, Nevermind, etc that people seek out while others like Billy Joel and Hall & Oates are better remembered for their singles. An album like Thriller or Rumours is clearly on a different level of consumption than Billy Joel's 'Storm Front' or Hall & Oates's 'Voices'. People may click on whatever comes up in a search but some acts obviously stay relevant because of their compilations. People want their hits, not their deep cuts, and I think that's what the Billboard 200 reflects.
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Post by iHype. on Nov 20, 2020 14:20:42 GMT -5
In streaming, having all the hits together is simply creatable through a playlist. I just feel Greatest Hits are now no different than just a playlist, so they really don't serve purpose in being measured on a chart imo. If Drake is getting 20 million streams via a 'Biggest Hits' playlist should that be chart eligible, or should the streams just go to the respective studio albums so we see what exactly is holding up with the biggest legacy? Also tracking Greatest Hits popularity in streaming is now pretty inaccurate because legacy artists like them have 5-10 different Greatest Hits albums uploaded on streaming. How exactly do we know which is being listened to? People just search a song, click play, and don't even pay attention in regards to what compilation its on. I doubt anyone is streaming directly 'The Essential Billy Joel' since it doesn't even come up when you search any of his hits on Spotify, but yet they're all arbitrarily lumped onto that random compilation. Having streams count towards a specific compilation just doesn't make sense in streaming. Bob Marley/Queen/Bon Jovi having their biggest hits scattered into respective studio albums wouldn't impact their total consumption/streaming as an artist though. The Artist 100 chart should be better improved to be based moreso on total equivalent units (like Rolling Stones artist chart), and we get a better idea how those legacy artists music actually stack up against each other overall in the streaming era. They must have some way of figuring it out, because we still see some classic studio albums on the Billboard 200. Why does Rumours do better than Fleetwood Mac's Greatest Hits? Why are Thriller and Essential Michael Jackson usually both on the Billboard 200? Why does Eminem keep his studio albums and 'Curtain Call' on the chart simultaneously? Sales alone wouldn't be enough to get them all on every week. Some artists have classic albums like Thriller, Rumours, Nevermind, etc that people seek out while others like Billy Joel and Hall & Oates are better remembered for their singles. An album like Thriller or Rumours is clearly on a different level of consumption than Billy Joel's 'Storm Front' or Hall & Oates's 'Voices'. People may click on whatever comes up in a search but some acts obviously stay relevant because of their compilations. People want their hits, not their deep cuts, and I think that's what the Billboard 200 reflects. Those examples are honestly full of mess too. Eminem has zero old studio albums charting currently, because Curtain Call is getting all the streams. Apple Music's album chart: 380 +1 Eminem - The Eminem Show 478 -8 Eminem - The Marshall Mathers LP 984 +49 Eminem - Curtain Call - The Hits (Deluxe Version) Yet people are clearly going to The Eminem Show to stream "Without Me" and Marshall Mathers LP to stream "The Real Slim Shady". These albums have lost years of charting due to consistently being awarded 0 streams for their singles. The Eminem Show used to consistently outchart Curtain Call prior to SPS, but now it mostly misses the chart altogether. Also, how does this work in regards to calculating total units? How exactly do you know how much Queen's Greatest Hits & Queen's Bohemian Rhapsody (Soundtrack Compilation) have done total in the streaming era when they are filled with same songs that just get limbo'd between albums every few weeks?
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Post by kimberly on Nov 20, 2020 14:40:53 GMT -5
lol what... did Future and Lil Uzi really fall to #3 despite releasing a "deluxe" version mid-week?
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