Billboard Hot 100: 12/05/2020

[Darkest Hour]

Brett Eldredge getting a Christmas hit out of all recent country artists is still funny to me.

[jenglisbe]

Nov 29, 2020 5:41:36 GMT -5 GP said:

Also very interesting, AIWFCIY is only 65k ahead of Brenda Lee in the US... this could get interesting!

Is there a streaming platform where Brenda is ahead?

[strongerq]

Nov 29, 2020 6:39:42 GMT -5 jenglisbe said:

Nov 29, 2020 5:41:36 GMT -5 GP said:

Also very interesting, AIWFCIY is only 65k ahead of Brenda Lee in the US... this could get interesting!

Is there a streaming platform where Brenda is ahead?

Apple Music:

AIWFCIY - #20

RATCT - #112

Amazon Music(i think):

AIWFCIY - #1

RATCT - #3

Youtube (with UGC):

AIWFCIY - #18

RATCT - N/A

[GP]

Nov 29, 2020 6:39:42 GMT -5 jenglisbe said:

Nov 29, 2020 5:41:36 GMT -5 GP said:

Also very interesting, AIWFCIY is only 65k ahead of Brenda Lee in the US... this could get interesting!

Is there a streaming platform where Brenda is ahead?

afaik no

[jenglisbe]

Nov 29, 2020 7:19:34 GMT -5 GP said:

Nov 29, 2020 6:39:42 GMT -5 jenglisbe said:

Is there a streaming platform where Brenda is ahead?

afaik no

So at this point it isn't really a threat.

[Harx]

Well, each year Brenda Lee doesn't top the chart over Mariah only extends her incoming record for the longest gap between song release and going to #1

[GP]

Nov 29, 2020 7:24:44 GMT -5 jenglisbe said:

Nov 29, 2020 7:19:34 GMT -5 GP said:

afaik no

So at this point it isn't really a threat.

well I don't expect it to actually surpass, but it's interesting how close they are on Spotify

[Soulsista]

Billboard Top 10 from 60, 55, 50, 45, and 40 years ago:

November 28, 1960 (For the week ending December 3)

01 02 Are You Lonesome Tonight? - Elvis Presley (1st of 6 weeks at #1)
02 04 Last Date - Floyd Cramer
03 01 Stay - Maurice Williams & The Zodiacs
04 03 Poetry In Motion - Johnny Tillotson
05 07 A Thousand Stars - Kathy Young & The Innocents
06 08 New Orleans - Gary U.S. Bonds
07 12 North To Alaska - Johnny Horton
08 13 Alone At Last - Jackie Wilson
09 06 Let's Go, Let's Go, Let's Go - Hank Ballard
10 05 Georgia On My Mind - Ray Charles


December 4, 1965

01 02 Turn! Turn! Turn! - The Byrds (1st of 3 weeks at #1)
02 01 I Hear a Symphony - The Supremes
03 03 1-2-3 - Len Barry
04 04 Let's Hang On - The Four Seasons
05 09 I Got You (I Feel Good) - James Brown
06 06 Rescue Me - Fontella Bass
07 07 Taste Of Honey - Herb Alpert & The Tijuana Brass
08 08 Ain't That Peculiar - Marvin Gaye
09 12 I Can Never Go Home Anymore - The Shangri-Las
10 16 Over And Over - The Dave Clark Five


December 5, 1970

01 01 I Think I Love You - The Partridge Family (3rd and final week at #1)
02 02 Tears Of a Clown - Smokey Robinson & The Miracles
03 06 Gypsy Woman - Brian Hyland
04 03 I'll Be There - The Jackson 5
05 04 We've Only Just Begun - The Carpenters
06 05 Fire And Rain - James Taylor
07 25 One Less Bell To Answer - The 5th Dimension
08 24 No Matter What - Badfinger
09 09 Heaven Help Us All - Stevie Wonder
10 16 Share The Land - The Guess Who

13 72 My Sweet Lord / Isn't It a Pity - George Harrison


December 6, 1975

01 01 Fly, Robin, Fly - Silver Convention (2nd of 3 weeks at #1)
02 02 That's The Way (I Like It) - K.C. & The Sunshine Band
03 06 Sky High - Jigsaw
04 05 Let's Do It Again - The Staple Singers
05 04 The Way I Want To Touch You - The Captain & Tennille
06 03 Island Girl - Elton John
07 07 Low Rider - War
08 09 Nights On Broadway - The Bee Gees
09 11 Saturday Night - The Bay City Rollers
10 12 My Little Town - Simon & Garfunkel


December 6, 1980

01 01 Lady - Kenny Rogers (4th of 6 weeks at #1)
02 06 More Than I Can Say - Leo Sayer
03 04 Another One Bites The Dust - Queen
04 02 Woman In Love - Barbra Streisand
05 07 Master Blaster (Jammin') - Stevie Wonder
06 08 (Just Like) Starting Over - John Lennon
07 09 Love On The Rocks - Neil Diamond
08 11 Hungry Heart - Bruce Springsteen
09 05 I'm Coming Out - Diana Ross
10 10 Dreamin' - Cliff Richard

[Soulsista]

Billboard Top 10 from 35, 30, 25, and 20 years ago:

December 7, 1985

01 03 Broken Wings - Mr. Mister (1st of 2 weeks at #1)
02 01 Separate Lives - Phil Collins & Marilyn Martin
03 02 We Built This City - Starship
04 05 Never - Heart
05 12 Say You, Say Me - Lionel Richie
06 04 You Belong To The City - Glenn Frey
07 08 Election Day - Arcadia
08 07 Who's Zoomin' Who - Aretha Franklin
09 09 Party All The Time - Eddie Murphy
10 10 Sleeping Bag - ZZ Top


December 8, 1990

01 03 Because I Love You (The Postman Song) - Stevie B. (1st of 4 weeks at #1)
02 01 I'm Your Baby Tonight - Whitney Houston
03 05 From a Distance - Bette Midler
04 06 Something To Believe In - Poison
05 02 Love Takes Time - Mariah Carey
06 04 Groove Is In The Heart - Deee-Lite
07 09 Impulsive - Wilson Phillips
08 08 The Way You Do The Things You Do - UB40
09 12 Tom's Diner - DNA feat. Suzanne Vega
10 23 Justify My Love - Madonna


December 9, 1995

01 01 One Sweet Day - Mariah Carey & Boyz II Men (2nd of 16 weeks at #1)
02 02 Exhale (Shoop Shoop) - Whitney Houston
03 03 Hey Lover - LL Cool J feat. Boyz II Men
04 04 Fantasy - Mariah Carey
05 05 Gangsta's Paradise - Coolio feat. L.V.
06 08 Diggin' On You - TLC
07 06 You Remind Me Of Something - R. Kelly
08 NE You'll See - Madonna
09 09 Name - The Goo Goo Dolls
10 07 Runaway - Janet Jackson

Mariah, Whitney, Madonna, and Janet in the Top 10.


December 2, 2000

01 01 Independent Women Part 1 - Destiny's Child (3rd of 11 weeks at #1)
02 07 Case Of The Ex (Whatcha Gonna Do) - Mya
03 02 With Arms Wide Open - Creed
04 03 Kryptonite - 3 Doors Down
05 06 This I Promise You - *NSYNC
06 04 Most Girls - P!nk
07 05 Gotta Tell You - Samantha Mumba
08 09 The Way You Love Me - Faith Hill
09 10 Shape Of My Heart - The Backstreet Boys
10 16 It Wasn't Me - Shaggy feat. Ricardo "RikRok" Ducent

[fridayteenage]

Nov 28, 2020 23:09:55 GMT -5 gikem said:

Nov 28, 2020 22:03:48 GMT -5 iHype. said:

HSM kick-started the careers of several major names in entertainment

Debatable.

[Soulsista]

Billboard Top 10 Flashback:

December 3, 2005

01 01 Run It! - Chris Brown (2nd of 5 weeks at #1)
02 02 Gold Digger - Kanye West feat. Jamie Foxx
03 03 My Humps - The Black Eyed Peas
04 04 Soul Survivor - Young Jeezy feat. Akon
05 05 Photograph - Nickelback
06 07 Laffy Taffy - D4L
07 14 Hung Up - Madonna
08 06 We Be Burnin' - Sean Paul
09 08 Because Of You - Kelly Clarkson
10 09 Stickwitu - The Pussycat Dolls


December 4, 2010

01 02 Only Girl (In The World) - Rihanna (1st and only week at #1)
02 04 Raise Your Glass - P!nk
03 01 Like a G6 - Far East Movement feat. The Cataracs & Dev
04 06 We R Who We R - Ke$ha
05 05 Just a Dream - Nelly
06 09 Firework - Katy Perry
07 03 Just The Way You Are - Bruno Mars
08 07 What's My Name? - Rihanna feat. Drake
09 22 F**k You (Forget You) - CeeLo Green
10 10 Bottoms Up - Trey Songz feat. Nicki Minaj

11 NE Forget You - Glee Cast feat. Gwyneth Paltrow
18 NE Singing In The Rain / Umbrella - Glee Cast feat. Gwyneth Paltrow


December 5, 2015

01 01 Hello - Adele (4th of 10 weeks at #1)
02 03 Sorry - Justin Bieber
03 02 Hotline Bling - Drake
04 NE Love Yourself - Justin Bieber
05 06 What Do You Mean? - Justin Bieber
06 04 The Hills - The Weeknd
07 05 Stitches - Shawn Mendes
08 07 679 - Fetty Wap feat. Remy Boyz
09 08 Wildest Dreams - Taylor Swift
10 11 Here - Alessia Cara

22 91 WTF (Where They From) - Missy Elliott feat. Pharrell


December 7, 2019

01 01 Circles - Post Malone (2nd of 3 weeks at #1)
02 02 Someone You Loved - Lewis Capaldi
03 03 Good As Hell - Lizzo
04 04 Memories - Maroon 5
05 12 Roxanne - Arizona Zervas
06 05 Lose You To Love Me - Selena Gomez
07 06 Señorita - Shawn Mendes & Camila Cabello
08 09 10,000 Hours - Dan + Shay & Justin Bieber
09 10 Truth Hurts - Lizzo
10 07 No Guidance - Chris Brown feat. Drake

[gikem]

Nov 29, 2020 13:11:03 GMT -5 fridayteenage said:

Nov 28, 2020 23:09:55 GMT -5 gikem said:

Debatable.

True, that was kind of a generalization on my part. A lot of the actors from that series have been largely forgotten.

[Gary]

Will this site is basically an expert in remembering "forgotten" songs and people

[wavey.]

Nov 29, 2020 13:18:23 GMT -5 Soulsista said:

Billboard Top 10 Flashback:

December 3, 2005

01 01 Run It! - Chris Brown (2nd of 5 weeks at #1)
02 02 Gold Digger - Kanye West feat. Jamie Foxx
03 03 My Humps - The Black Eyed Peas
04 04 Soul Survivor - Young Jeezy feat. Akon
05 05 Photograph - Nickelback
06 07 Laffy Taffy - D4L
07 14 Hung Up - Madonna
08 06 We Be Burnin' - Sean Paul
09 08 Because Of You - Kelly Clarkson
10 09 Stickwitu - The Pussycat Dolls


December 4, 2010

01 02 Only Girl (In The World) - Rihanna (1st and only week at #1)
02 04 Raise Your Glass - P!nk
03 01 Like a G6 - Far East Movement feat. The Cataracs & Dev
04 06 We R Who We R - Ke$ha
05 05 Just a Dream - Nelly
06 09 Firework - Katy Perry
07 03 Just The Way You Are - Bruno Mars
08 07 What's My Name? - Rihanna feat. Drake
09 22 F**k You (Forget You) - CeeLo Green
10 10 Bottoms Up - Trey Songz feat. Nicki Minaj

11 NE Forget You - Glee Cast feat. Gwyneth Paltrow
18 NE Singing In The Rain / Umbrella - Glee Cast feat. Gwyneth Paltrow


December 5, 2015

01 01 Hello - Adele (4th of 10 weeks at #1)
02 03 Sorry - Justin Bieber
03 02 Hotline Bling - Drake
04 NE Love Yourself - Justin Bieber
05 06 What Do You Mean? - Justin Bieber
06 04 The Hills - The Weeknd
07 05 Stitches - Shawn Mendes
08 07 679 - Fetty Wap feat. Remy Boyz
09 08 Wildest Dreams - Taylor Swift
10 11 Here - Alessia Cara

22 91 WTF (Where They From) - Missy Elliott feat. Pharrell


December 7, 2019

01 01 Circles - Post Malone (2nd of 3 weeks at #1)
02 02 Someone You Loved - Lewis Capaldi
03 03 Good As Hell - Lizzo
04 04 Memories - Maroon 5
05 12 Roxanne - Arizona Zervas
06 05 Lose You To Love Me - Selena Gomez
07 06 Señorita - Shawn Mendes & Camila Cabello
08 09 10,000 Hours - Dan + Shay & Justin Bieber
09 10 Truth Hurts - Lizzo
10 07 No Guidance - Chris Brown feat. Drake

The rangggeeeeeeee

[WolfSpear]

Nice. Next week will cover my birth week (12/15/90). Guess that was a really long time ago now...

[𝕡𝕙𝕖𝕖𝕓𝕤]

Nov 29, 2020 13:18:23 GMT -5 Soulsista said:

01 01 Circles - Post Malone (2nd of 3 weeks at #1)
02 02 Someone You Loved - Lewis Capaldi
03 03 Good As Hell - Lizzo
04 04 Memories - Maroon 5
05 12 Roxanne - Arizona Zervas
06 05 Lose You To Love Me - Selena Gomez
07 06 Señorita - Shawn Mendes & Camila Cabello
08 09 10,000 Hours - Dan + Shay & Justin Bieber
09 10 Truth Hurts - Lizzo
10 07 No Guidance - Chris Brown feat. Drake

What a stacked Top 10, wow. Every single one of these songs was huge.

[korbel16]

2010 having 7 REAL numbers in the top 10 at the same time. Stellar

[GP]

AlphaData (previously BuzzAngle)
Biggest female artists in New York this week (ordered by song units)
1. Miley Cyrus
2. Mariah Carey
3. Ariana Grande
4. Taylor Swift
5. Carrie Underwood
6. Megan Thee Stallion
7. Billie Eilish
8. Dua Lipa

annnnnnd that's how many females are in the top50 in NY

[Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ]

[forg]

2000s chart is so nostalgic to me

[leshadows]

Nov 28, 2020 21:12:30 GMT -5 jthentic said:

Yes, they'll go down in the history as the biggest group / movement from the east but you can't pinpoint their western audience, the manipulation tactics like using proxy/vpn, mass buying makes it impossible. Same goes for many kpop bands. Remember when literally unknown & just formed SuperM (with mini album) beat Summer walker for #1 bb (who btw had the highest streaming week for a female r&b artist ever) even industry pundits where shocked like, where are these audience?
But unlike the biggest groups from last ~2 decades, Nsync, Backstreet boys, 1D whose music is still played & is relevant among general audience (even though you aren't a stan of em) i don't see 5yrs or even 2 yrs from now someone asking "Hey, put that Bts record on".

I always see people here talking about vpn when talking about BTS but it's something that's very frowned upon on the fandom because with BTS everything they do and achiev is put under magnifying glass (like BB did for BTS No.1 or you guys are doing) so we don't like to give people reason to discredit them. Also, we know the charts really well and we know that vpn streams and sales are filtered so why would we do it?
Amyways, I get what you guys are coming from about the sales thing but we need to compensate the lack of industry suport the only way we can, because radio isn't playing them and they are not getting playlist either...
Also the situation with SuperM has nothing to do with BTS.

[Myth X]

The #1 of this week is only at #36 on HDD streaming chart:


-- 36 BTS LIFE GOES ON BIGHIT/COLUMBIA 7,851,275 --


hitsdailydouble.com/streaming_songs

[jayhawk1117]

Super legit guys, not a problem with this at all lol. Number one song in the country is barely top 40 in the way a vast majority of people consume music.

Perfect system 👍

Edit - Like I swear I have no problem with sales having weight on the chart, considering people still buy (for some reason) but when a small group of maybe 50k people can just clearly manipulate the charts like this, it leaves such a bad taste in my mouth and billboard is GAGGING for it because they'll never get as many clicks as they do when BTS does literally anything ever.

[shayonce]

"lack of industry support" pleaseeeee. BTS had massive support from US industry/media. lol

[Abbaschand]

Nov 29, 2020 13:18:23 GMT -5 Soulsista said:

11 NE Forget You - Glee Cast feat. Gwyneth Paltrow
18 NE Singing In The Rain / Umbrella - Glee Cast feat. Gwyneth Paltrow

Feel bad for Gwyneth. From a really prolific actress, to basically a glorified snake oil salesperson. But I still enjoy her Forget You cover.

[jthentic]

Nov 29, 2020 20:10:21 GMT -5 leshadows said:

Nov 28, 2020 21:12:30 GMT -5 jthentic said:

Yes, they'll go down in the history as the biggest group / movement from the east but you can't pinpoint their western audience, the manipulation tactics like using proxy/vpn, mass buying makes it impossible. Same goes for many kpop bands. Remember when literally unknown & just formed SuperM (with mini album) beat Summer walker for #1 bb (who btw had the highest streaming week for a female r&b artist ever) even industry pundits where shocked like, where are these audience?
But unlike the biggest groups from last ~2 decades, Nsync, Backstreet boys, 1D whose music is still played & is relevant among general audience (even though you aren't a stan of em) i don't see 5yrs or even 2 yrs from now someone asking "Hey, put that Bts record on".

I always see people here talking about vpn when talking about BTS but it's something that's very frowned upon on the fandom because with BTS everything they do and achiev is put under magnifying glass (like BB did for BTS No.1 or you guys are doing) so we don't like to give people reason to discredit them. Also, we know the charts really well and we know that vpn streams and sales are filtered so why would we do it?
Amyways, I get what you guys are coming from about the sales thing but we need to compensate the lack of industry suport the only way we can, because radio isn't playing them and they are not getting playlist either...
Also the situation with SuperM has nothing to do with BTS.

BTS fans whining that they lack industry support is BS. If you aren't aware, every major media outlets & TV programmers, hell even TIMES, UNO are milking them as fkn stan bait. They're getting promos & airtime like none other artist & they're #12 on radio airplay (that's huge for an artist who's basically non-eng & lacks general audience) & yet you've the audacity to say like they're being blackballed 😂😂

[jayhawk1117]

Literally lol. You'd think that that news channels were making anti BTS propaganda pieces on the daily when EVERYONE knows how much the stans live for any mention of them.

It's literally the lack of radio support and that's not even a BTS exclusive thing. It's an "It's not english so we're not gonna play it" thing. And then.... Their english song is actually doing well on radio sooooo

[loveless]

Nov 30, 2020 0:13:08 GMT -5 jayhawk1117 said:

Literally lol. You'd think that that news channels were making anti BTS propaganda pieces on the daily when EVERYONE knows how much the stans live for any mention of them.

It's literally the lack of radio support and that's not even a BTS exclusive thing. It's an "It's not english so we're not gonna play it" thing. And then.... Their english song is actually doing well on radio sooooo

And it's doing well at radio despite the fact that it's been dead last in callout scores for like six weeks at this point

[shayonce]

their Korean song which was "officially" promoted by Columbia did great too despite in korean language and not much sales/streaming at the time. they're literally more played than Beyonce since 2016. so..

this is typical cult thing. they gotta create this "we're against "big villain" and face the huge oppression" BS
then they get more obsessive and stick together to fight(?). it always works.

[tanooki]

Nov 30, 2020 1:24:47 GMT -5 shayonce said:

their Korean song which was "officially" promoted by Columbia did great too despite in korean language and not much sales/streaming at the time. they're literally more played than Beyonce since 2016. so..

this is typical cult thing. they gotta create this "we're against "big villain" and face the huge oppression" BS
then they get more obsessive and stick together to fight(?). it always works.

typical cult thing? what?