iHype.
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Post by iHype. on Dec 5, 2020 16:18:59 GMT -5
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Post by 14887fan on Dec 5, 2020 16:25:49 GMT -5
Mighty steep drop from Mendesβ 2018 self-titled release; nearly a full 100k lower. Did that one have a tour bundle?
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Post by loveless on Dec 5, 2020 16:27:36 GMT -5
Oh wow. Less than half of what his self titled did. That album did have a tour bundle though, so this might not be as drastic as it looks? Still not a good sign for someone who had a hit as massive as SeΓ±orita just last year.
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Post by spiritboy on Dec 5, 2020 17:18:30 GMT -5
Not surprising given Wonder wasn't a hit and Monster isn't the smash hit everyone expected it to be.
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Dec 5, 2020 17:21:38 GMT -5
No more tour bundles, no more merchandise bundles.
This is the new reality.
And Senorita was a hit *last* year.
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Post by Wave. on Dec 5, 2020 17:24:44 GMT -5
This amount seems right considering "Wonder" didn't explode up the charts.
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Post by iHype. on Dec 5, 2020 17:25:04 GMT -5
Yeah, this isn't that surprising.
I was expecting numbers around 100k at best with no bundles, no real big hit, and him having such an uneventful comeback (I mean he really has absolutely no personality or any interesting about him to draw someone who isn't already a fan want to hear his album).
I would just expect any artist who's previous opening numbers were largely due to pure sales to drop at least half from here on out.
An exception would be if an artist went into album release with a huge/career high hit.
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Dec 5, 2020 19:01:21 GMT -5
In essence, this prediction confirms Shawn has probably peaked on the charts.
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Post by Choco on Dec 5, 2020 20:04:19 GMT -5
I worry that they're gonna see a number one album and think it's all cool when in reality the numbers kinda prove this era was not it in terms of material. He needs to step it up, change producers or something because creatively this was a huge regression and I expect the long term numbers to reflect that.
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Post by rosalina4812 on Dec 5, 2020 20:09:01 GMT -5
There are kpop groups that debuted this year that are set to outsell Shawn Mendes worldwide. The boyfriend image is a shortlived one, I tell you that much.
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Post by survivorqt on Dec 5, 2020 21:19:50 GMT -5
Looks like his relationship to Camila might be ruining his image
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Post by WolfSpear on Dec 5, 2020 21:25:22 GMT -5
His self titled release will likely mark the peak of his career. I wasnβt drawn into this new era.
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Post by Push The Button on Dec 5, 2020 21:26:44 GMT -5
They tryna get me hyped for Mariah to get her long-awaited #1 Christmas album, arenβt they? Well it wonβt work.
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Post by Hurricane Lee on Dec 5, 2020 21:30:13 GMT -5
They tryna get me hyped for Mariah to get her long-awaited #1 Christmas album, arenβt they? Well it wonβt work. Mariah has more than enough number 1s in her portfolio without your hype. |
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Post by Push The Button on Dec 5, 2020 21:46:30 GMT -5
They tryna get me hyped for Mariah to get her long-awaited #1 Christmas album, arenβt they? Well it wonβt work. Mariah has more than enough number 1s in her portfolio without your hype. No she doesnβt. |
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Post by Choco on Dec 6, 2020 7:00:16 GMT -5
Tbh it would be kind of cool if Mariah blocked Shawn this week. Nothing like a 90s album blocking your brand new release to make you switch things up.
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Dec 7, 2020 10:01:39 GMT -5
Wonder's sales number look worse considering he has a Target exclusive on both CD and vinyl:
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Post by Taylor. on Dec 7, 2020 10:02:26 GMT -5
He just released a deluxe edition with live versions of every song from his virtual concert last night as well as an acoustic version and remix of Wonder.
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Dec 7, 2020 19:06:09 GMT -5
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Post by Nick on Dec 7, 2020 19:08:46 GMT -5
^Yes, but that will be for the HITS 12/18 chart. Shawn has this week. |
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Dec 7, 2020 19:14:58 GMT -5
^Yes, I know.
I'm just looking ahead.
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Post by Verisimilitude on Dec 7, 2020 19:19:26 GMT -5
So how it looks so far from HITS/Alpha Data: 01 Shawn Mendes 02 Carrie Underwood (!!!) 03 Michael Buble 04 Bad Bunny 05 Bing Crosby 08 Mariah (Merry Christmas) - though I have a feeling Billboard/Nielsen Music will apply the SPS to the Magical Christmas soundtrack? alphadata.fm/charts/hits-album-chart/ |
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Post by 14887fan on Dec 7, 2020 19:38:42 GMT -5
Carrie remains one of the strongest album sellers in the game, of any genre.
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Post by hughster1 on Dec 7, 2020 20:56:05 GMT -5
So how it looks so far from HITS/Alpha Data: 01 Shawn Mendes 02 Carrie Underwood (!!!) 03 Michael Buble 04 Bad Bunny 05 Bing Crosby 08 Mariah (Merry Christmas) - though I have a feeling Billboard/Nielsen Music will apply the SPS to the Magical Christmas soundtrack? alphadata.fm/charts/hits-album-chart/"White Christmas" notwithstanding, Bing Crosby is the bigger surprise for me. If he gets a top ten album, it'll be the first time in at least 64 years! Also a White Stripes Greatest Hits album at #7 is pretty unexpected. GH don't sell well nowadays since all the hits are available on streaming. |
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Post by HolidayGuy on Dec 7, 2020 22:20:27 GMT -5
That chart can't be given too much weight, though, in terms of what the final chart will look like.
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Dec 7, 2020 22:37:17 GMT -5
^Yeah. I don't think The White Stripes Greatest Hits will necessarily be in the top 10 when all is said and done unless they have D2C and/or physical sales that need to be accounted for.
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Post by fridayteenage on Dec 8, 2020 0:14:40 GMT -5
is he big again? his last album was #11 with 49k, and before that #36 with 19k. |
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Post by Enigma. on Dec 8, 2020 0:55:33 GMT -5
I can see Kid Cudi having a tiny "Tha Carter effect", but don't think the casual streamers are there in the middle of biggest Xmas streaming rush.
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Dec 8, 2020 9:25:42 GMT -5
is he big again? his last album was #11 with 49k, and before that #36 with 19k. And he only debuted at #2 with Kids See Ghosts thanks to Kanye. |
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Dec 8, 2020 12:02:48 GMT -5
I guess I am wrong...
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