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Post by areyoureadytojump on Jan 9, 2021 13:28:41 GMT -5
hitsdailydouble.com/news&id=324674&title=NEW-RELEASES%253A-A-DOUBLE-DOSE-OF-DANGERSaturday, January 9, 2021 NEW RELEASES: A DOUBLE DOSE OF DANGERMorgan Wallen is in no danger as he starts off the year with a record-setting bow. After one day of sales and streams, Dangerous: The Double Album (Big Loud/Republic) is projecting to a first week total of 185-210k.Combined on-demand audio and video streams are headed toward 165-190m, a new opening week high for a country release. By next Friday, when the HITS Top 50 is finalized, Dangerous will be at 1.2m in total activity to date. Lead track "Wasted On You" is currently #1 at Apple Music and Spotify U.S.
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Post by Enigma. on Jan 9, 2021 13:32:05 GMT -5
Decent numbers, but of course let's not forget that the album has 30 songs
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Post by thegreatdivine on Jan 9, 2021 13:34:07 GMT -5
Less than 200 million streams from 30 songs? Yikes.
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Post by iHype. on Jan 9, 2021 13:39:54 GMT -5
Less than 200 million streams from 30 songs? Yikes. He’s a B-list Country artist, that’s fine. Playboi Carti couldn’t even do 150m with 24 tracks and way more hype in the streaming world. |
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Post by Raccoon on Jan 9, 2021 14:04:08 GMT -5
This album will have legs. Country music is better in the summer.
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Post by thegreatdivine on Jan 9, 2021 14:06:42 GMT -5
This album will have legs. Country music is better in the summer. There's definitely many potential singles on the album. |
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Post by starlord on Jan 9, 2021 14:11:43 GMT -5
He's doing phenomenal, considering his debut(last) album did 2700 copies in first week. It took almost 2 years to reach 833k, this one did before album launch.
180-200k is pretty much in line with My turn/bad bunny album.
This is the problem with our expectation/predictions. We are comparing with all hip hop acts. Where all the streaming services are dominated by that genre already.
So for an average listener going for Lil Durk's album is much more easier than to Morgan Wallen's.
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Post by thegreatdivine on Jan 9, 2021 14:17:46 GMT -5
Less than 200 million streams from 30 songs? Yikes. He’s a B-list Country artist, that’s fine. Playboi Carti couldn’t even do 150m with 24 tracks and way more hype in the streaming world. I wouldn't call Playboi Carti an A-lister either. His album had hype but as we all know, that doesn't always translate to massive numbers, especially seeing as the album was mostly panned even amongst his cultlike fanbase. That definitely affected it's performance. Morgan Wallen has grown a lot as a streaming artist in the last year. He's currently a bigger streaming artist than Playboi Carti and his album has definitely been anticipated as well. It's also getting a really good reception amongst fans/critics. Add in the fact that it has 30 tracks and I guess I was just expecting upwards of 200 million streams at least. We also have to consider that while the current projection is 165-190M streams, it may do lower than that considering it's slow start on Spotify. I wonder if these are two isolated cases or if streaming is really just that low right now. |
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Post by strongerq on Jan 9, 2021 14:31:11 GMT -5
I am still baffled by this. Like 200k are from this week, so that means 1M album units coming from pre-released singles. That is 10 Million Song units. Wallen doesn't even have half of that.
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Post by thegreatdivine on Jan 9, 2021 14:34:54 GMT -5
I am still baffled by this. Like 200k are from this week, so that means 1M album units coming from pre-released singles. That is 10 Million Song units. Wallen doesn't even have half of that.
Unless More Than My Hometown & 7 Summers have magically moved over 10 million units in the past year, they made a mistake. |
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Post by iHype. on Jan 9, 2021 14:38:38 GMT -5
He’s a B-list Country artist, that’s fine. Playboi Carti couldn’t even do 150m with 24 tracks and way more hype in the streaming world. I wouldn't call Playboi Carti an A-lister either. His album had hype but as we all know, that doesn't always translate to massive numbers, especially seeing as the album was mostly panned even amongst his cultlike fanbase. That definitely affected it's performance. Morgan Wallen has grown a lot as a streaming artist in the last year. He's currently a bigger streaming artist than Playboi Carti and his album has definitely been anticipated as well. It's also getting a really good reception amongst fans/critics. Add in the fact that it has 30 tracks and I guess I was just expecting upwards of 200 million streams at least. We also have to consider that while the current projection is 165-190M streams, it may do lower than that considering it's slow start on Spotify. I wonder if these are two isolated cases or if streaming is really just that low right now. B-list rappers obviously have a way bigger advantage in streaming than B-list Country artists. Playboi had two Platinum albums prior, way more high profile collabs, etc and still didn’t do 150 million. No other Country album has done close to this first week, regardless of track count so it’s still a big win. He hasn’t done anywhere as well in streaming first week either with previous albums. There was really no definite previous expectations this had to say 165+ million is underwhelming. Expecting a Country album do to 200 million or even more when we are just now in 2021 only starting to see them crack 100 million streams in a week is a bit unrealistic. He also may have hits in the Country world but he truly hasn’t crossed over yet like other names. |
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Post by strongerq on Jan 9, 2021 14:45:16 GMT -5
This is the country streaming record, so almost double isn't bad.
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Post by thegreatdivine on Jan 9, 2021 15:00:10 GMT -5
I wouldn't call Playboi Carti an A-lister either. His album had hype but as we all know, that doesn't always translate to massive numbers, especially seeing as the album was mostly panned even amongst his cultlike fanbase. That definitely affected it's performance. Morgan Wallen has grown a lot as a streaming artist in the last year. He's currently a bigger streaming artist than Playboi Carti and his album has definitely been anticipated as well. It's also getting a really good reception amongst fans/critics. Add in the fact that it has 30 tracks and I guess I was just expecting upwards of 200 million streams at least. We also have to consider that while the current projection is 165-190M streams, it may do lower than that considering it's slow start on Spotify. I wonder if these are two isolated cases or if streaming is really just that low right now. B-list rappers obviously have a way bigger advantage in streaming than B-list Country artists. Playboi had two Platinum albums prior, way more high profile collabs, etc and still didn’t do 150 million. No other Country album has done close to this first week, regardless of track count so it’s still a big win. He hasn’t done anywhere as well in streaming first week either with previous albums. There was really no definite previous expectations this had to say 165+ million is underwhelming. Expecting a Country album do to 200 million or even more when we are just now in 2021 only starting to see them crack 100 million streams in a week is a bit unrealistic. He also may have hits in the Country world but he truly hasn’t crossed over yet like other names. The only thing I commented on were the streaming numbers. And yes, while this is a massive boost from his debut album just over 2 years ago when he was basically unknown and I get your point, I really don't think my expectations are *that* unrealistic. My expectations were based on how well he did on streaming last year without an album and only two singles. He pulled over 1.7B streams last year and was one of the 3 country musicians to make HDD's top 50 most streamed artists list. That why I also asked if him/Playboi Carti's streaming figures being that low is because they simply aren't that big as streaming artists or really because streaming is simply that low right now. That would definitely explain things. This is the country streaming record, so almost double isn't bad.
I mean, yes, but Luke Combs is a way bigger streaming force now than say 2 years ago and I can only seem him getting bigger. His next studio album will definitely be massive on streaming, seeing as he pulled over 2.6B streams last year. I felt the same way about the streaming debut of After Hours. Yes, it was a new record for R&B albums but I felt like with the hype, anticipation and hits Abel had going into the release of the album, it should have done more than 220M streams, but hey, maybe I'm just expecting too much from these artists, lol. |
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Post by kanimal on Jan 9, 2021 15:12:59 GMT -5
As of November/December 2020, he had 5 million formally certified RIAA song units (500K album units) from Heartless, Cover Me Up, and More Than My Hometown. You can probably add another 500K songs or so based on the delayed count. 7 Summers isn't certified yet but is surely eligible for at least platinum, and the instant grat trio from a few weeks ago is probably over gold collectively at this point. So that would probably put him at about 700-750K album units from songs.
So, yeah, it seems like this week's total would put him in the 900K-1 million range. 1.2m seems high, but maybe some of the RIAA stuff is underreported.
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Post by Enigma. on Jan 9, 2021 15:13:48 GMT -5
It is given that Morgan will be in the YE top 20 with this project, just the consumption of the 30 tracks will make it happen, no matter if he gets any further hits out of it (and God knows if there's a re-release too).
We need to take quite a lot of things into consideration these days. My Turn was the most consumed album last year, but I would say Folklore and SFTSAFTM were more popular...
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Post by iHype. on Jan 9, 2021 15:19:40 GMT -5
It is given that Morgan will be in the YE top 20 with this project, just the consumption of the 30 tracks will make it happen, no matter if he gets any further hits out of it (and God knows if there's a re-release too). We need to take quite a lot of things into consideration these days. My Turn was the most consumed album last year, but I would say Folklore and SFTSAFTM were more popular... Track counts really don't matter after the first week or two. I doubt they heavily impact long-term/YE performance. That would imply people are listening to the album entirely through every single week, which just isn't true. Most people, no matter the album length, listen through once or twice, then just add their favorite songs to a playlist and revisit those. SFTSATM would have probably been the most consumed of 2020 with an earlier release date. Folklore is barely 5 months old and its highest song is #869 on Apple Music and N/A on Spotify. I'd say My Turn is more popular... |
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Post by thegreatdivine on Jan 9, 2021 15:21:28 GMT -5
A re-release of a 30-track double album would be overdoing it. I'm sure even he knows that. He probably didn't want to do a deluxe version months down the line and probably settled for just giving people 30 tracks at once right away instead, which was the smart to do.
As for My Turn being more consumed, it was a simple case of it being released earlier than both Folklore and SFTSAFTM, especially the latter since it performed better and had more consistency on streaming than Folklore.
My Turn: released February 2020, deluxe released May 2020.
SFTSAFTM: released July 2020, deluxe released same month.
Folklore: released July 2020, deluxe released August 2020.
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Post by Enigma. on Jan 9, 2021 15:25:17 GMT -5
Oh, I remembered My Turn's deluxe came earlier. It was probably Uzi I was thinking of...
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Post by Raccoon on Jan 9, 2021 16:47:08 GMT -5
Morgan also had This Bar released before the album, that’s probably why he’s at 1million units beforehand
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Post by fridayteenage on Jan 9, 2021 17:21:55 GMT -5
My Turn: released February 2020, deluxe released May 2020. SFTSAFTM: released July 2020, deluxe released same month. Folklore: released July 2020, deluxe released August 2020. Uhh, Folklore added 1 song. That was already on physical editions. So not the same thing. |
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Post by thegreatdivine on Jan 9, 2021 17:25:40 GMT -5
My Turn: released February 2020, deluxe released May 2020. SFTSAFTM: released July 2020, deluxe released same month. Folklore: released July 2020, deluxe released August 2020. Uhh, Folklore added 1 song. That was already on physical editions. So not the same thing. Technically, it's still a deluxe version. That's all I really meant by that. |
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Post by kanimal on Jan 9, 2021 18:34:52 GMT -5
Morgan also had This Bar released before the album, that’s probably why he’s at 1million units beforehand Completely forgot that one. Then, yeah, the 1.2 million makes more sesne. |
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Post by violentdreams on Jan 9, 2021 20:50:52 GMT -5
Less than 200 million streams from 30 songs? Yikes. There's nothing really yikes about it, at a certain point when you make an excessively long album you're just spreading out the amount of streams you would've normally gotten. Realistically, whether it was 16 songs or 40 songs, he would've done about the same amount. |
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Post by Verisimilitude on Jan 10, 2021 12:46:32 GMT -5
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Post by Choco on Jan 11, 2021 8:46:58 GMT -5
Yeah it's hard for me to count Taylor dropping one song that was already out on physicals as the same as, say DaBaby dropping 15 new tracks on an old album.
No matter if both are called deluxes or whatever.
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Post by Verisimilitude on Jan 11, 2021 9:12:46 GMT -5
Jazmine Sullivan up to #3! Hope she secures a top 10 album.
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Post by thegreatdivine on Jan 11, 2021 17:57:53 GMT -5
Less than 200 million streams from 30 songs? Yikes. I KNEW MY EXPECTATIONS WEREN'T UNREALISTIC. |
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Jan 11, 2021 20:45:05 GMT -5
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Post by thegreatdivine on Jan 12, 2021 13:24:19 GMT -5
Go, Morgan!
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Jan 12, 2021 18:17:07 GMT -5
hitsdailydouble.com/news&id=324705&title=A-DANGEROUS-TOP-20Tuesday, January 12, 2021 A DANGEROUS TOP 20Morgan Wallen’s Dangerous: The Double Album (Big Loud/Republic) is inching closer to 200m on-demand audio streams as the 30-track set revs up to a projected 230k for the week. Republic could have the Top 3 and half of the week’s Top 10 (including The Weeknd, who moves up to #7 at midweek). Other new entries this week include Jazmine Sullivan (RCA) and Barry Gibb (Capitol). 
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