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Post by HamedM1 💔 on Jul 14, 2021 23:16:58 GMT -5
Omg they actually let her out the broom closet, yessss
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Post by Exclusive on Jul 14, 2021 23:18:56 GMT -5
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Post by circadian on Jul 14, 2021 23:48:05 GMT -5
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Post by Mazo on Jul 15, 2021 0:08:08 GMT -5
I predict this going to do next to nothing, be hype for no reason, Cardi is gonna feel bad about doing her a favor (charity).
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Post by dlhealy2007 on Jul 15, 2021 8:17:09 GMT -5
This impacts pop this week.
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Post by Taylor. on Jul 15, 2021 8:51:11 GMT -5
basically same snippet as the one from january but the dancing is nice!
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Post by NeRD on Jul 15, 2021 9:17:15 GMT -5
The One In A Million sample sounds cute.
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Post by Wave. on Jul 15, 2021 9:22:00 GMT -5
I love "One In A Million", so I'm definitely gonna like this lol.
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Post by Ty on Jul 15, 2021 11:57:13 GMT -5
we all know that she had next to no chance to become a big popstar
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Post by elementd5 on Jul 15, 2021 12:32:00 GMT -5
we all know that she had next to no chance to become a big popstar I just couldn't see her doing Pop-only (since she clearly likes both), but trying to do both Pop as well as R&B would hurt her career even further. Aside from Rihanna, no one else recently has been able to do both consistently. I don't think she had much choice but to pick. Guess we shall see!
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Post by rihannabiggestfan on Jul 15, 2021 12:52:38 GMT -5
I predict this going to do next to nothing, be hype for no reason, Cardi is gonna feel bad about doing her a favor (charity). Or maybe Cardi likes Normani and wanted to do a collab with her? Maybe she's proud of the song they made together? I don't think Cardi would let success cloud her judgment: lack of success doesn't make a good song bad.
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Post by NeRD on Jul 15, 2021 13:02:54 GMT -5
Yeah I hear Cardi actually wanted to be on this song. Some of y'all are clueless...
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Post by kimberly on Jul 15, 2021 13:05:58 GMT -5
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Post by vithor on Jul 15, 2021 13:24:38 GMT -5
I predict this going to do next to nothing, be hype for no reason, Cardi is gonna feel bad about doing her a favor (charity). You must be forgetting Cardi herself asked Normani to be on the WAP video... I'll believe it when I'm listening. LOL
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Post by Ty on Jul 15, 2021 14:23:26 GMT -5
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Post by degen on Jul 15, 2021 14:47:03 GMT -5
Here are my thoughts. I think the major mistake Normani made the first go around was that they tried to make her a pop artist, which kind of put her in an awkward situation. She basically was catering to no audience because R&B/hip hop fans weren’t checking on her and Pop fans already had a Camila and Ariana. That lane was too crowded. So to have her focus on an R&B audience is a good move. Even if it doesn’t do much on Top 40 she can still get airplay on Rhythmic and Urban. We’ll see how this pans out.
As for Cardi, I have never enjoyed any of her features (except Motor Sport but I guess that’s not a feature technically). She’s better as a lead artist rather than being pigeonholed into a 30 second verse where she tends to sound more subdued.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2021 16:24:48 GMT -5
Here are my thoughts. I think the major mistake Normani made the first go around was that they tried to make her a pop artist, which kind of put her in an awkward situation. She basically was catering to no audience because R&B/hip hop fans weren’t checking on her and Pop fans already had a Camila and Ariana. That lane was too crowded. So to have her focus on an R&B audience is a good move. Even if it doesn’t do much on Top 40 she can still get airplay on Rhythmic and Urban. We’ll see how this pans out. As for Cardi, I have never enjoyed any of her features (except Motor Sport but I guess that’s not a feature technically). She’s better as a lead artist rather than being pigeonholed into a 30 second verse where she tends to sound more subdued. There are parts of this I agree with and parts I don't. Normani actually has a negative track record with the urban format, even worse than having no track record at all bc there's not a clean slate to work with. Love Lies was inarguably an r&b bop to me and it had Khalid (already an established hitmaker there), but urban completely ignored it despite her doing a radio promo run for it. They also ignored Waves (and rhythmic ignored Waves too even though LL had been a big hit there). Frankly if Wild Side becomes a radio hit, I'm not expecting urban to be the format to carry her there. Nothing wrong with sending Wild Side out to urban and seeing what happens, but her team would be a collective fool to be looking at urban as a fallback plan. Rhythmic is iffy too, though I do think she has a stronger chance of succeeding there. I agree though that Normani was and maybe still is in kind of in an odd position. Her core audience right now is the pop/CHR audience; every hit and drop of exposure she has, has started there. But I suspect that audience is drawn to her precisely because of the r&b element she brings to the table, which no one else is currently offering to them. I think RCA correctly recognized where her audience is, but conflated having a pop audience with needing to make pop music, and that's not really true. She can make pop-friendly r&b music and do fine...now whether Wild Side is pop-friendly enough for the girls is yet to be seen, and striking that balance is always going to be the trickiest part for her. but as a general direction I do believe it's the correct choice.
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Post by otaviohmg on Jul 15, 2021 16:49:48 GMT -5
yasss
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Post by elementd5 on Jul 15, 2021 17:54:49 GMT -5
Either way, I’m ready and all of the snippets have me excited.
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Post by NeRD on Jul 15, 2021 18:33:21 GMT -5
Here are my thoughts. I think the major mistake Normani made the first go around was that they tried to make her a pop artist, which kind of put her in an awkward situation. She basically was catering to no audience because R&B/hip hop fans weren’t checking on her and Pop fans already had a Camila and Ariana. That lane was too crowded. So to have her focus on an R&B audience is a good move. Even if it doesn’t do much on Top 40 she can still get airplay on Rhythmic and Urban. We’ll see how this pans out. As for Cardi, I have never enjoyed any of her features (except Motor Sport but I guess that’s not a feature technically). She’s better as a lead artist rather than being pigeonholed into a 30 second verse where she tends to sound more subdued. There are parts of this I agree with and parts I don't. Normani actually has a negative track record with the urban format, even worse than having no track record at all bc there's not a clean slate to work with. Love Lies was inarguably an r&b bop to me and it had Khalid (already an established hitmaker there), but urban completely ignored it despite her doing a radio promo run for it. They also ignored Waves (and rhythmic ignored Waves too even though LL had been a big hit there). Frankly if Wild Side becomes a radio hit, I'm not expecting urban to be the format to carry her there. Nothing wrong with sending Wild Side out to urban and seeing what happens, but her team would be a collective fool to be looking at urban as a fallback plan. Rhythmic is iffy too, though I do think she has a stronger chance of succeeding there. I agree though that Normani was and maybe still is in kind of in an odd position. Her core audience right now is the pop/CHR audience; every hit and drop of exposure she has, has started there. But I suspect that audience is drawn to her precisely because of the r&b element she brings to the table, which no one else is currently offering to them. I think RCA correctly recognized where her audience is, but conflated having a pop audience with needing to make pop music, and that's not really true. She can make pop-friendly r&b music and do fine...now whether Wild Side is pop-friendly enough for the girls is yet to be seen, and striking that balance is always going to be the trickiest part for her. but as a general direction I do believe it's the correct choice. Hmm..I agree with most of this except her being unique in bringing R&B elements to Top 40 radio. Ariana arguably made a full on transition to R&B with Positions which may ultimately help Normani. I just don't think she will necessarily be bringing anything new to the table even if this is pushed heavily at Top 40.
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Post by Mazo on Jul 15, 2021 19:39:32 GMT -5
I predict this going to do next to nothing, be hype for no reason, Cardi is gonna feel bad about doing her a favor (charity). Or maybe Cardi likes Normani and wanted to do a collab with her? Maybe she's proud of the song they made together? I don't think Cardi would let success cloud her judgment: lack of success doesn't make a good song bad. There’s an air of charity when it comes to Normani. I think they feel bad for her and they root for her so they throw her a bone. They (her peers), despite being in awe of her, can’t make her famous. That is the job of the general public, and the general public doesn’t seem here for Normani. With that being said, I hope the song is a success, but it feel very charitable.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2021 19:48:11 GMT -5
There are parts of this I agree with and parts I don't. Normani actually has a negative track record with the urban format, even worse than having no track record at all bc there's not a clean slate to work with. Love Lies was inarguably an r&b bop to me and it had Khalid (already an established hitmaker there), but urban completely ignored it despite her doing a radio promo run for it. They also ignored Waves (and rhythmic ignored Waves too even though LL had been a big hit there). Frankly if Wild Side becomes a radio hit, I'm not expecting urban to be the format to carry her there. Nothing wrong with sending Wild Side out to urban and seeing what happens, but her team would be a collective fool to be looking at urban as a fallback plan. Rhythmic is iffy too, though I do think she has a stronger chance of succeeding there. I agree though that Normani was and maybe still is in kind of in an odd position. Her core audience right now is the pop/CHR audience; every hit and drop of exposure she has, has started there. But I suspect that audience is drawn to her precisely because of the r&b element she brings to the table, which no one else is currently offering to them. I think RCA correctly recognized where her audience is, but conflated having a pop audience with needing to make pop music, and that's not really true. She can make pop-friendly r&b music and do fine...now whether Wild Side is pop-friendly enough for the girls is yet to be seen, and striking that balance is always going to be the trickiest part for her. but as a general direction I do believe it's the correct choice. Hmm..I agree with most of this except her being unique in bringing R&B elements to Top 40 radio. Ariana arguably made a full on transition to R&B with Positions which may ultimately help Normani. I just don't think she will necessarily be bringing anything new to the table even if this is pushed heavily at Top 40. I did consider that, but I think most people aren't going to see Ariana and Normani as being in the same lane. People get kind of weird sometimes when it comes to how r&b Ariana is or isn't, but that's another story. As long as Normani stays away from Motivation-type songs she'll differentiate herself enough. I think it also helps that Normani is going to automatically be seen as a 'performer' - not to say she can't sing, I think post-5H she's good actually - but she's never going to be viewed as a vocalist the way Ari is. Kind of ironic bc their tones are kind of similar sometimes. Keep in mind I'm only speaking to what/who is currently on the market. It honestly just doesn't take much to be 'different' right now, and Normani is really fortunate that someone didn't try to launch a new r&b/pop trained dancer while she was gone because the door was wide open. I feel like a lot more people started incorporating choreography into their shows in the past couple of years but they either didn't have the backing or they're artists who would be seen as people Normani could collaborate with rather than people she's directly competing with.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2021 19:57:13 GMT -5
On another note, this KIIS response to someone saying 'I expect y'all to be playing Wild Side every hour' seems to imply there is a radio deal? I'm not really sure. All the big stations and media outlets jumped on the tweet train when she finally announced it was coming so they might just be hyping it up for clicks.
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Post by Mazo on Jul 15, 2021 19:59:04 GMT -5
I predict this going to do next to nothing, be hype for no reason, Cardi is gonna feel bad about doing her a favor (charity). You must be forgetting Cardi herself asked Normani to be on the WAP video... I'll believe it when I'm listening. LOL I know but I feel like Cardi B tries to appease black people cause they’re usually calling her out for her lack of…but I digress.
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Post by suzcruz7 on Jul 15, 2021 20:00:55 GMT -5
All this talk about marketability, differentiation, and missed windows, I just want a bop!
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Post by ificanthaveyou on Jul 15, 2021 20:18:11 GMT -5
You must be forgetting Cardi herself asked Normani to be on the WAP video... I'll believe it when I'm listening. LOL I know but I feel like Cardi B tries to appease black people cause they’re usually calling her out for her lack of…but I digress. Don’t know what you’re talking about because people are HUNGRY for Normani and she’s had pop hits already. Normani can do it all, that’s why she’s set to be a star.
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Post by itsatravesty on Jul 15, 2021 21:02:12 GMT -5
I predict this going to do next to nothing, be hype for no reason, Cardi is gonna feel bad about doing her a favor (charity). Orly? Not the way some of us was talked down to in this thread for saying otherwise. So how many singles will it take for her to hit? I wonder if you'll come back weekly to do a check on Normani's progress. What about in years? Will you care by then because that's how long it will take to find out what the future holds for her. There will be no immediate gratification for predicting the nonsuccess of someone with potential and plenty of time to make it as long as opportunity is out there. ....... It'll be a long, tough journey rooting against an artist who's consistently presented with opportunities to build on her brand. You seem to be up for it though. Good luck. You still care. What threatens you the most?
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Post by itsatravesty on Jul 15, 2021 21:04:04 GMT -5
All this talk about marketability, differentiation, and missed windows, I just want a bop! I'm nervous. I dont like her doing R&B as much as pop but the Cardi feature could certainly help her get attention.
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Post by Elusive Chanteuse on Jul 15, 2021 23:05:34 GMT -5
This is FIRE!!!!!
And that video! OMG!
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Post by SHOOTER on Jul 15, 2021 23:08:33 GMT -5
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