Billboard Hot 100: 04/03/2021

[jdanton2]

Mar 28, 2021 10:16:43 GMT -5 Lost In Musical Reverie said:

POV IS COMING!

it will be performed tomorrow on The Voice.

www.etonline.com/the-voice-the-battle-rounds-kick-off-with-kelsea-ballerini-coaching-team-kelly-exclusive-162959

[iamsorare]

Hold On new peak.. Anyone back in top 20..Peaches number one!! Justin won..

[Soulsista]

Billboard Top 10 from 60, 55, 50, 45, and 40 years ago:

March 27, 1961 (For the week ending April 1)

01 01 Surrender - Elvis Presley (2nd and final week at #1)
02 02 Pony Time - Chubby Checker
03 05 Dedicated To The One I Love - The Shirelles
04 06 Apache - Jorge Ingmann
05 03 Don't Worry - Marty Robbins
06 21 Blue Moon - The Marcels
07 09 Walk Right Back - The Everly Brothers
08 07 Wheels - The String-A-Longs
09 04 Where The Boys Are - Connie Francis
10 12 Gee Whiz - Carla Thomas

17 40 But I Do - Clarence "Frogman" Henry
21 47 Runaway - Del Shannon


April 2, 1966

01 01 Ballad Of The Green Berets - Sgt. Barry Sadler (5th and final week at #1)
02 02 19th Nervous Breakdown - The Rolling Stones
03 08 (You're My) Soul And Inspiration - The Righteous Brothers
04 06 Daydream - The Lovin' Spoonful
05 05 Homeward Bound - Simon & Garfunkel
06 03 Nowhere Man - The Beatles
07 07 California Dreamin' - The Mamas & The Papas
08 04 These Boots Are Made For Walkin' - Nancy Sinatra
09 17 Bang Bang - Cher
10 14 Sure Gonna Miss Her - Gary Lewis & The Playboys


April 3, 1971

01 02 Just My Imagination (Running Away With Me) - The Temptations (1st of 2 weeks at #1)
02 01 Me & Bobby McGee - Janis Joplin
03 05 For All We Know - The Carpenters
04 03 She's a Lady - Tom Jones
05 07 What's Going On - Marvin Gaye
06 04 Proud Mary - Ike & Tina Turner
07 06 Doesn't Somebody Want To Be Wanted - The Partridge Family
08 08 Help Me Make It Through The Night - Sammi Smith
09 11 (Where Do I Begin) Love Story - Andy Williams
10 14 Another Day - Paul McCartney

11 34 Joy To The World - Three Dog Night


April 3, 1976

01 05 Disco Lady - Johnnie Taylor (1st of 4 weeks at #1)
02 02 Dream Weaver - Gary Wright
03 03 Lonely Night - The Captain & Tennille
04 08 Let Your Love Flow - The Bellamy Brothers
05 06 Sweet Thing - Rufus feat. Chaka Khan
06 09 Right Back Where We Started From - Maxine Nightingale
07 07 Dream On - Aerosmith
08 01 December 1963 (Oh, What a Night) - The Four Seasons
09 10 Money Honey - The Bay City Rollers
10 11 Golden Years - David Bowie


April 4, 1981

01 01 Rapture - Blondie (2nd and final week at #1)
02 02 Woman - John Lennon
03 03 The Best Of Times - Styx
04 09 Kiss On My List - Daryl Hall & John Oates
05 05 Crying - Don McLean
06 06 Hello Again - Neil Diamond
07 08 Just The Two Of Us - Grover Washington Jr. w/Bill Withers
08 04 Keep On Loving You - REO Speedwagon
09 11 While You See a Chance - Steve Winwood
10 10 What Kind Of Fool - Barbra Streisand & Barry Gibb

[phieaglesfan712]

TOTC's predictions for this week:

No way Dynamite did 41k sales this week, unless the mass buys from the Grammys didn't get counted on last week's chart, and instead counted on this week's.

[Gary]

[Soulsista]

Billboard Top 10 from 35, 30, 25, and 20 years ago:

April 5, 1986

01 01 Rock Me Amadeus - Falco (2nd of 3 weeks at #1)
02 04 R.O.C.K. In The USA - John Cougar Mellencamp
03 05 Kiss - Prince & The Revolution
04 03 Secret Lovers - Atlantic Starr
05 02 These Dreams - Heart
06 06 What You Need - INXS
07 11 Manic Monday - The Bangles
08 09 Let's Go All The Way - Sly Fox
09 13 Addicted To Love - Robert Palmer
10 07 Nikita - Elton John


April 6, 1991

01 01 Coming Out Of The Dark - Gloria Estefan (2nd and final week at #1)
02 05 I've Been Thinking About You - Londonbeat
03 07 You're In Love - Wilson Phillips
04 04 Hold You Tight - Tara Kemp
05 08 Sadeness (Part 1) - Enigma
06 02 One More Try - Timmy T
07 14 Baby Baby - Amy Grant
08 10 Signs - Tesla
09 03 This House - Tracie Spencer
10 11 Iesha - Another Bad Creation


April 6, 1996

01 01 Because You Loved Me - Celine Dion (3rd of 6 weeks at #1)
02 NE Always Be My Baby - Mariah Carey
03 02 Nobody Knows - The Tony Rich Project
04 04 Down Low (Nobody Has To Know) - R. Kelly feat. Ronald Isley
05 06 Ironic - Alanis Morissette
06 03 Sittin' Up In My Room - Brandy
07 05 Not Gon' Cry - Mary J. Blige
08 08 Missing - Everything But The Girl
09 07 One Sweet Day - Mariah Carey & Boyz II Men
10 16 1-2-3-4 (Sumpin' New) - Coolio


March 31, 2001

01 02 Angel - Shaggy feat. Rayvon (1st and only week at #1)
02 01 Butterfly - Crazy Town
03 06 All For You - Janet Jackson
04 03 Stutter - Joe feat. Mystikal
05 04 Again - Lenny Kravitz
06 12 Thank You - Dido
07 17 Survivor - Destiny's Child
08 NE Get Over Yourself - Eden's Crush
09 16 Jaded - Aerosmith
10 08 Put It On Me - Ja Rule feat. Lil Mo & Vita

[meg]

Mar 28, 2021 10:42:30 GMT -5 phieaglesfan712 said:

TOTC's predictions for this week:

No way Dynamite did 41k sales this week, unless the mass buys from the Grammys didn't get counted on last week's chart, and instead counted on this week's.

Dynamite had more sales this week than last week. I don't know where do you get your information.

[Soulsista]

Billboard Top 10 Flashback:

April 1, 2006

01 02 Temperature - Sean Paul (1st and only week at #1)
02 05 Bad Day - Daniel Powter
03 01 So Sick - Ne-Yo
04 03 You're Beautiful - James Blunt
05 04 Be Without You - Mary J. Blige
06 07 Unwritten - Natasha Bedingfield
07 09 Lean Wit It, Rock Wit It - Dem Franchize Boyz feat. Lil Peanut & Charlay
08 06 I'm N Luv (Wit a Stripper) - T-Pain feat. Mike Jones
09 10 Yo (Excuse Me Miss) - Chris Brown
10 08 Check On It - Beyonce feat. Slim Thug


April 2, 2011

01 01 Born This Way - Lady Gaga (6th and final week at #1)
02 03 E.T. - Katy Perry feat. Kanye West
03 04 S&M - Rihanna
04 02 F**k You (Forget You) - CeeLo Green
05 22 Just Can't Get Enough - The Black Eyed Peas
06 NE Loser Like Me - Glee Cast
07 06 F**kin' Perfect - P!nk
08 12 Look At Me Now - Chris Brown feat. Lil Wayne & Busta Rhymes
09 07 Grenade - Bruno Mars
10 13 Down On Me - Jeremih feat. 50 Cent

16 NE Get It Right - Glee Cast
24 NE Who Says - Selena Gomez & The Scene


April 2, 2016

01 01 Work - Rihanna feat. Drake (5th of 9 weeks at #1)
02 02 Love Yourself - Justin Bieber
03 05 7 Years - Lukas Graham
04 03 Stressed Out - Twenty One Pilots
05 04 My House - Flo Rida
06 06 PILLOWTALK - Zayn
07 07 Me, Myself & I - G-Eazy & Bebe Rexha
08 08 Sorry - Justin Bieber
09 09 Cake By The Ocean - DNCE
10 NE Dangerous Woman - Ariana Grande


April 4, 2020

01 02 Blinding Lights - The Weeknd (1st of 4 weeks at #1)
02 01 The Box - Roddy Ricch
03 03 Don't Start Now - Dua Lipa
04 16 Heartless - The Weeknd
05 05 Circles - Post Malone
06 04 Life Is Good - Future feat. Drake
07 07 Adore You - Harry Styles
08 08 Intentions - Justin Bieber feat. Quavo
09 14 Say Do - Doja Cat
10 06 Roxanne - Arizona Zervas

16 NE In Your Eyes - The Weeknd
20 98 Savage - Megan Thee Stallion
21 NE Alone Again - The Weeknd
22 NE After Hours - The Weeknd
24 NE Scared To Live - The Weeknd
25 NE Hardest To Love - The Weeknd

[Enigma.]

Mar 28, 2021 11:10:37 GMT -5 Soulsista said:

April 4, 2020

01 02 Blinding Lights - The Weeknd (1st of 4 weeks at #1)

And we haven't still got rid of it....

[phieaglesfan712]

Mar 28, 2021 10:58:50 GMT -5 meg said:

Mar 28, 2021 10:42:30 GMT -5 phieaglesfan712 said:

TOTC's predictions for this week:

No way Dynamite did 41k sales this week, unless the mass buys from the Grammys didn't get counted on last week's chart, and instead counted on this week's.

Dynamite had more sales this week than last week. I don't know where do you get your information.

I don't see how that is possible. Last week, Dynamite had the Grammys to boost it and was in the teens and 20's most of the week on the iTunes chart. This week, no Grammys boost and it was in the 70's on the iTunes chart for most of the week. Seems fishy to me if it got 41k sales this week and only 26.5k last week.

[meg]

Mar 28, 2021 11:18:01 GMT -5 phieaglesfan712 said:

Mar 28, 2021 10:58:50 GMT -5 meg said:

Dynamite had more sales this week than last week. I don't know where do you get your information.

I don't see how that is possible. Last week, Dynamite had the Grammys to boost it and was in the teens and 20's most of the week on the iTunes chart. This week, no Grammys boost and it was in the 70's on the iTunes chart for most of the week. Seems fishy to me if it got 41k sales this week and only 26.5k last week.

Because Big Hit store excist? I don't think it's 41k, more like 30k but still more than last week.

[gikem]

Once Dynamite breaks Gangnam Style's record, Billboard needs to put website sales (or at least excessive website sales) for the Hot 100 and their other song charts to rest for good. There's no way a song should be surviving recurrent rules on stans mass-buying alone.

[meg]

You all survive one more week of Dynamite on hot 100 my god. On friday they are releasing new song so army will focus on this one.

[Gary]

LOL yes - if the fanbase is large enough (and it clearly is) for the song to sell 30K a week even from websites that are not itunes, then it deserves to chart even if it means surviving recurrent rules

[notgoodenglish]

Mar 28, 2021 11:10:37 GMT -5 Soulsista said:

Billboard Top 10 Flashback:

April 1, 2006

01 02 Temperature - Sean Paul (1st and only week at #1)

A classic !! i still hear that song sometimes on the clubs here on my country. Sean Paul music will sound forever, between 20 reggaeton songs there's always an interlude with Get Busy or Temperature.

[fhas]

[forg]

Beautiful Mistakes likely in the top 40, you really couldn't count out Maroon 5

Refreshing to see that after the failed #1 campaign for Yummy and controversial #1 debut of Stuck With U, Bieber will get a #1 with no mess attached, just organic success.

[Deleted]

Mar 28, 2021 11:18:01 GMT -5 phieaglesfan712 said:

Mar 28, 2021 10:58:50 GMT -5 meg said:

Dynamite had more sales this week than last week. I don't know where do you get your information.

I don't see how that is possible. Last week, Dynamite had the Grammys to boost it and was in the teens and 20's most of the week on the iTunes chart. This week, no Grammys boost and it was in the 70's on the iTunes chart for most of the week. Seems fishy to me if it got 41k sales this week and only 26.5k last week.

Here is a piece of advice to help you better predict what to expect from BTS chart performance...pay attention to Army organizing on twitter. There are small countries that don't run as effectively as BTS Army does. Dynamite is a week or so away from breaking two major records. Hell will freeze over before Army lets those opportunities pass by. The sales will be extremely high this week and next week. Also, keep an eye out for their new release called Film Out being released in a few days. It's a Japanese language song for an action movie. It will get high sales and streaming too and will definitely do well on the international charts. 

People getting so worked up over fan supporting musicians through buying their music is so illogical to me. I see people saying Dynamite and other BTS music is supposedly "inorganic," which is nonsense. BTS music (aside from Dynamite) doesn't have their label buying playlisting and spins. People who are BTS fans found them completely organically and have to literally seek out their music specifically in order to buy or stream it. The overwhelming majority of other successful artists' rely heavily on payola and influence to get a lot of spins and playlisting which gives them high charting without listeners seeking those artists out specifically. If anything is inorganic it is charting from having your music just force fed to people without them asking for it. At least with BTS and Dynamite all those people buying are actively seeking out their music specifically. Nothing could be more organic than that. 

[jenglisbe]

Mar 28, 2021 11:35:52 GMT -5 Gary said:

LOL yes - if the fanbase is large enough (and it clearly is) for the song to sell 30K a week even from websites that are not itunes, then it deserves to chart even if it means surviving recurrent rules

Is this an actual widespread fan base in the U.S., or is this a small group of people mass buying repeatedly?

[phieaglesfan712]

Mar 28, 2021 21:15:57 GMT -5 @sosalty said:

Mar 28, 2021 11:18:01 GMT -5 phieaglesfan712 said:

I don't see how that is possible. Last week, Dynamite had the Grammys to boost it and was in the teens and 20's most of the week on the iTunes chart. This week, no Grammys boost and it was in the 70's on the iTunes chart for most of the week. Seems fishy to me if it got 41k sales this week and only 26.5k last week.

Here is a piece of advice to help you better predict what to expect from BTS chart performance...pay attention to Army organizing on twitter. There are small countries that don't run as effectively as BTS Army does. Dynamite is a week or so away from breaking two major records. Hell will freeze over before Army lets those opportunities pass by. The sales will be extremely high this week and next week. Also, keep an eye out for their new release called Film Out being released in a few days. It's a Japanese language song for an action movie. It will get high sales and streaming too and will definitely do well on the international charts. 

People getting so worked up over fan supporting musicians through buying their music is so illogical to me. I see people saying Dynamite and other BTS music is supposedly "inorganic," which is nonsense. BTS music (aside from Dynamite) doesn't have their label buying playlisting and spins. People who are BTS fans found them completely organically and have to literally seek out their music specifically in order to buy or stream it. The overwhelming majority of other successful artists' rely heavily on payola and influence to get a lot of spins and playlisting which gives them high charting without listeners seeking those artists out specifically. If anything is inorganic it is charting from having your music just force fed to people without them asking for it. At least with BTS and Dynamite all those people buying are actively seeking out their music specifically. Nothing could be more organic than that. 

So, should I expect 50k+ sales for Dynamite on the 4/10 chart?

[Deleted]

Mar 28, 2021 21:21:37 GMT -5 jenglisbe said:

Mar 28, 2021 11:35:52 GMT -5 Gary said:

LOL yes - if the fanbase is large enough (and it clearly is) for the song to sell 30K a week even from websites that are not itunes, then it deserves to chart even if it means surviving recurrent rules

Is this an actual widespread fan base in the U.S., or is this a small group of people mass buying repeatedly?

Yes, BTS actually has a massive US fanbase. It's just not as apparent to a lot of people because of airplay gatekeeping. If people unfamiliar don't hear them on the radio they assume they aren't popular. Radio thinks (inaccurately) that people won't listen to Korean language songs. BTS sells out US football stadiums for two consecutive nights in usually an hour or so or less. This video is from one of the two sold out nights at the Rose Bowl, where they broke a record for the highest grossing engagement in the venue history. The funding accounts accept donations and US/PR fans buy. Each week you can only buy 4 copies of an mp3 per credit card AND they have to download them all to count, so this isn't just a handful of fans buying each week. One funding account that has been helping donate for Army to buy Dynamite has almost 140k followers, another has 60k. As much as many who are annoyed at how powerful BTS's fanbase is want to think it's only a few people, it's really not. There are a lot of us.


youtu.be/zI2ofdd0l9M

So, should I expect 50k+ sales for Dynamite on the 4/10 chart?

Probably not that much, but it's possible. Watch twitter tweets about buying Dynamite the last day/night of tracking for sales. You'll be able to find how many orders were placed for the tracking week on the webstore. Things will get a little dicey depending if the new Film Out single is on the webstore or not because it gets released by Japanese charting times, so there will be some overlapping. US Armys are being told to hold off buying Film Out until after Dynamite's tracking week is over but there is no way to know for sure. You'll get more accurate information watching twitter, though. 

[Rose "Payola" Nylund]

So you admit to purposely manipulating the charts. Cool!

[jenglisbe]

Mar 28, 2021 21:46:53 GMT -5 @sosalty said:

Mar 28, 2021 21:21:37 GMT -5 jenglisbe said:

Is this an actual widespread fan base in the U.S., or is this a small group of people mass buying repeatedly?

Yes, BTS actually has a massive US fanbase. It's just not as apparent to a lot of people because of airplay gatekeeping. If people unfamiliar don't hear them on the radio they assume they aren't popular. Radio thinks (inaccurately) that people won't listen to Korean language songs. BTS sells out US football stadiums for two consecutive nights in usually an hour or so or less. This video is from one of the two sold out nights at the Rose Bowl, where they broke a record for the highest grossing engagement in the venue history. The funding accounts accept donations and US/PR fans buy. Each week you can only buy 4 copies of an mp3 per credit card AND they have to download them all to count, so this isn't just a handful of fans buying each week. One funding account that has been helping donate for Army to buy Dynamite has almost 140k followers, another has 60k. As much as many who are annoyed at how powerful BTS's fanbase is want to think it's only a few people, it's really not. There are a lot of us.


youtu.be/zI2ofdd0l9M

I appreciate the in-depth answer. My opinion in light of that is that even 75k people repeatedly buying multiple copies is a small fan base manipulating the charts.

It's also not just airplay gatekeeping if the streaming numbers are low, too. Plenty of artists have done well in streaming without radio support.

[Mayman]

Mar 28, 2021 21:15:57 GMT -5 @sosalty said:

Here is a piece of advice to help you better predict what to expect from BTS chart performance...pay attention to Army organizing on twitter. There are small countries that don't run as effectively as BTS Army does. Dynamite is a week or so away from breaking two major records. Hell will freeze over before Army lets those opportunities pass by. The sales will be extremely high this week and next week. Also, keep an eye out for their new release called Film Out being released in a few days. It's a Japanese language song for an action movie. It will get high sales and streaming too and will definitely do well on the international charts. 

People getting so worked up over fan supporting musicians through buying their music is so illogical to me. I see people saying Dynamite and other BTS music is supposedly "inorganic," which is nonsense. BTS music (aside from Dynamite) doesn't have their label buying playlisting and spins. People who are BTS fans found them completely organically and have to literally seek out their music specifically in order to buy or stream it. The overwhelming majority of other successful artists' rely heavily on payola and influence to get a lot of spins and playlisting which gives them high charting without listeners seeking those artists out specifically. If anything is inorganic it is charting from having your music just force fed to people without them asking for it. At least with BTS and Dynamite all those people buying are actively seeking out their music specifically. Nothing could be more organic than that. 

Mar 28, 2021 21:46:53 GMT -5 @sosalty said:

Yes, BTS actually has a massive US fanbase. It's just not as apparent to a lot of people because of airplay gatekeeping. If people unfamiliar don't hear them on the radio they assume they aren't popular. Radio thinks (inaccurately) that people won't listen to Korean language songs. BTS sells out US football stadiums for two consecutive nights in usually an hour or so or less. This video is from one of the two sold out nights at the Rose Bowl, where they broke a record for the highest grossing engagement in the venue history. The funding accounts accept donations and US/PR fans buy. Each week you can only buy 4 copies of an mp3 per credit card AND they have to download them all to count, so this isn't just a handful of fans buying each week. One funding account that has been helping donate for Army to buy Dynamite has almost 140k followers, another has 60k. As much as many who are annoyed at how powerful BTS's fanbase is want to think it's only a few people, it's really not. There are a lot of us.


youtu.be/zI2ofdd0l9M


Probably not that much, but it's possible. Watch twitter tweets about buying Dynamite the last day/night of tracking for sales. You'll be able to find how many orders were placed for the tracking week on the webstore. Things will get a little dicey depending if the new Film Out single is on the webstore or not because it gets released by Japanese charting times, so there will be some overlapping. US Armys are being told to hold off buying Film Out until after Dynamite's tracking week is over but there is no way to know for sure. You'll get more accurate information watching twitter, though. 

[jthentic]

Bruh, my master's abstract didn't have that many words 😂

[Deleted]

Mar 28, 2021 21:53:43 GMT -5 jenglisbe said:

Mar 28, 2021 21:46:53 GMT -5 @sosalty said:

Yes, BTS actually has a massive US fanbase. It's just not as apparent to a lot of people because of airplay gatekeeping. If people unfamiliar don't hear them on the radio they assume they aren't popular. Radio thinks (inaccurately) that people won't listen to Korean language songs. BTS sells out US football stadiums for two consecutive nights in usually an hour or so or less. This video is from one of the two sold out nights at the Rose Bowl, where they broke a record for the highest grossing engagement in the venue history. The funding accounts accept donations and US/PR fans buy. Each week you can only buy 4 copies of an mp3 per credit card AND they have to download them all to count, so this isn't just a handful of fans buying each week. One funding account that has been helping donate for Army to buy Dynamite has almost 140k followers, another has 60k. As much as many who are annoyed at how powerful BTS's fanbase is want to think it's only a few people, it's really not. There are a lot of us.


youtu.be/zI2ofdd0l9M

I appreciate the in-depth answer. My opinion in light of that is that even 75k people repeatedly buying multiple copies is a small fan base manipulating the charts.

It's also not just airplay gatekeeping if the streaming numbers are low, too. Plenty of artists have done well in streaming without radio support.

Here's the way I see it, being someone who has been around for a very, very long time. (Yes, I used to actually have 8 tracks, lol) Labels using payola for spins and playlisting is chart manipulation. Bundles was chart manipulation. Using repeated gimmicks to re-release the same album to sell more is chart manipulation. EVERY label and fanbase uses their strengths/advantages to support their artists to help them be more successful. Frankly, I can't think of a single artist that wouldn't rather have fans that love and support them so much that they will buy the same song more than once to do well on charts than have their label essentially bribe playlisting and radio stations to do well on charts. At the end of the day, it's all the same thing. So why is there so much animosity towards BTS and their fans for fighting hard to make up for the radio gatekeeping? I mean, look at the IFPI results from 2020. Globally BTS had the #s 1 and 4 album globally that included streams. They had #1,2 and 8 albums on sales were the #1 artist and Dynamite was the #10 song in the world with literally ZERO promotion anywhere except in the US. When radio starts honoring our years worth of requests and play the Korean songs too maybe we won't feel compelled to keep buying to make sure their music gets the recognition it deserves. 

[Mayman]

Okay but what I don't understand is why BTS stans always say "they have no radio support!!!!" when Dynamite went top 5 on pop radio when it BOMBED in callouts every single week. Life Goes On hit the top 50 without even being given a proper radio release. Practically every single they've released to pop radio has quickly risen, showing stations are willing to play them, but when they see how listeners respond (negatively), they stop playing the song.

I truly do not understand why BTS stans have this "it's the world vs. us" mindset when this is not the case. They have a solid fanbase, streaming support, radio is willing to play them, and they sell well (not counting the chart manipulation purchases). It is okay for someone to not like BTS, I promise you will be fine.

[rimetm]

It’s worth noting that these past few weeks, Dynamite’s only been bought by 2-3k people. The catch is that more than half of those are people buying, via the direct to consumer web store, the 44 copies allotted every week because of the 11 versions all having their own bulk limits. It’s absolutely manipulation and I wish the people trying to defend it would not pull a fast one by saying “the fanbase is big in the US” when that’s irrelevant to the question at hand.

[CF15]

Mar 28, 2021 21:53:43 GMT -5 jenglisbe said:

Mar 28, 2021 21:46:53 GMT -5 @sosalty said:

Yes, BTS actually has a massive US fanbase. It's just not as apparent to a lot of people because of airplay gatekeeping. If people unfamiliar don't hear them on the radio they assume they aren't popular. Radio thinks (inaccurately) that people won't listen to Korean language songs. BTS sells out US football stadiums for two consecutive nights in usually an hour or so or less. This video is from one of the two sold out nights at the Rose Bowl, where they broke a record for the highest grossing engagement in the venue history. The funding accounts accept donations and US/PR fans buy. Each week you can only buy 4 copies of an mp3 per credit card AND they have to download them all to count, so this isn't just a handful of fans buying each week. One funding account that has been helping donate for Army to buy Dynamite has almost 140k followers, another has 60k. As much as many who are annoyed at how powerful BTS's fanbase is want to think it's only a few people, it's really not. There are a lot of us.


youtu.be/zI2ofdd0l9M

I appreciate the in-depth answer. My opinion in light of that is that even 75k people repeatedly buying multiple copies is a small fan base manipulating the charts.

It's also not just airplay gatekeeping if the streaming numbers are low, too. Plenty of artists have done well in streaming without radio support.

I don't understand why they don't instead just stream it repeatedly. It would cost them nothing, and could probably get more points in. It makes sense to stream a song you like multiple times, but not to re-purchase a song you already have purchased, especially for something as silly as spending a few additional weeks in the Hot 100 chart.

Personally, I like "Dynamite", and I feel like its "normal" chart run died a bit prematurely, but this could get out of hand if the stans manage to keep it on until its 52nd week (or perhaps even more). I definitely agree with the sentiment that it feels like an unnatural way to affect the chart. If they were to stream the song instead of buying it, then I would totally understand and it wouldn't seem like such an artificial way to extend its chart run. It has already run its course, and it'll probably already make the decade-end chart and certainly the 2021 year-end chart, so it's time to move on.

[lurker2]

The problem is it's more efficient to buy than stream to get points, esp. if you assume that mass playing gets caught by Spotify. 100 streams is less than one copy bought IIRC, much less 44.