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Post by BDGeek on Apr 4, 2022 11:57:14 GMT -5
Probably didn't help that they rescheduled the show to the weekend after the Oscars. I expect people are kind of burned out from award show season. The crowd consuming a lot of "in" music these days aren't cable subscribers either, and CBS viewers trend older and wouldn't recognize a lot of the performers/nominees.
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Post by jenglisbe on Apr 4, 2022 11:57:39 GMT -5
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Post by Mirago on Apr 4, 2022 11:58:34 GMT -5
Didn't expect Jon Batiste to win AOTY. His performance came off like an explosion of Sesame Street and the Wiggles, but he seems very talented. Which is similar to the video for Freedom which also earned Jon Best Music Video last night. Congrats to other winners like RÜFÜS DU SOL for Best Dance/Electronic Recording with Alive, St. Vincent for Best Alternative Music Album and the Foo Fighters who won ALL 3 of their nominated rock categories. All the above were not (important enough to be) included on the CBS network broadcast.
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Post by jenglisbe on Apr 4, 2022 12:06:08 GMT -5
Congrats to other winners like RÜFÜS DU SOL for Best Dance/Electronic Recording with Alive, St. Vincent for Best Alternative Music Album and the Foo Fighters who won ALL 3 of their nominated rock categories. All the above were not (important enough to be) included on the CBS network broadcast. Were any Rock/Alt categories presented during the telecast?
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Post by Enigma. on Apr 4, 2022 12:43:39 GMT -5
Queen just has that power!!!
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Post by jenglisbe on Apr 4, 2022 12:48:18 GMT -5
I know in one sense she's a one-hit wonder, but she also wrote "Fancy" which has become an all-time classic in country music. In addition to those two classic songs, she and Glen Campbell won the ACM Album of the Year for their duet album. If you include Darius Rucker with this one, I'd count this as a win since 'Hootie' went on to carve out a nice career in country music (and won another Grammy). She's still only released the 1 studio album, how is this a check? I mean, it's an all-time album, but she didn't really do much else.
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Post by Hurricane Lee on Apr 4, 2022 12:53:53 GMT -5
The Grammys were cute:
1. How is anyone surprised by Jon The Baptist skipping off with AOTY when he had Billie, Olivia, HER, and Tony x GaGa in the category. Clearly, the voters had a hard time choosing between the heavyhitters, so they went with a "safe" choice. All that was missing from Jon's technicolor, Sesame Street-via-Broadway performance was animatronic birds. I still don't know him and from what I heard last night, his music is not my cup of tea, but...good for him and his fans!
2. Happiest for Jazmine, even though she had to share one of the awards she should have won solo. Very deserved, though to me, this is another case of The Grammys playing catchup. Where was this energy for Reality Show or even Fearless?
3. Good to know that Milli Vanilli suffered in vain when we have people blatantly lipping while gaslighting their fans into thinking they are singing live.
4. Happy for Doja but Need To Know deserved even more, in terms of skills on display. The best part of Hurricane is mmm-mmm-mm-mm-mmm.
5. Nothing for Happier Than Ever is foul.
6. LTDO is fine but still overrated. I can see ROTY but an award for SONGWRITING is a joke.
7. Bieber hate in 2022 is pretty amusing. While the lyrics to Peaches are goofy, it's sad that Justin still feels he has to prove he is actually talented, but...here we are. At least his mic was fully on.
8. Trevor Noah is corny.
9. I get it: Gaga is a theater geek, first and foremost. That said, I still think bops are her strong suit, not jazz and showtunes.
10. I'm just grateful MGK wasn't invited.
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Post by upsidedown on Apr 4, 2022 13:12:24 GMT -5
Ratings have adjusted upwards:
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Post by upsidedown on Apr 4, 2022 13:13:42 GMT -5
I'm confounded why "Stay" wasn't nominated for anything? That felt more like ROTY than anything else besides probably "Levitating"
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Post by thezatch on Apr 4, 2022 14:12:49 GMT -5
I was talking about the show with a co-worker today and the thought came to me that since none of the heavy-hitter pop girls were there aside from GaGa & Dua (no Bey, Adele, Ariana), imagine if Britney and her man just showed up unexpectedly, walked the red carpet, didn't talk to anyone and went in to enjoy the show?! (Now I know she has no obligation to do such things, and probably hates doing the red carpet in the first place, but imagine the frenzy!)
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Post by Amnesiac on Apr 4, 2022 15:00:03 GMT -5
Congrats to other winners like RÜFÜS DU SOL for Best Dance/Electronic Recording with Alive, St. Vincent for Best Alternative Music Album and the Foo Fighters who won ALL 3 of their nominated rock categories. All the above were not (important enough to be) included on the CBS network broadcast. Were any Rock/Alt categories presented during the telecast? No, they almost never are. I've actually forgotten the last time any of them were.
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Apr 4, 2022 15:00:48 GMT -5
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Post by jenglisbe on Apr 4, 2022 15:10:50 GMT -5
Were any Rock/Alt categories presented during the telecast? No, they almost never are. I've actually forgotten the last time any of them were. I guess to be fair, rock and alt music hasn't been hugely popular in years. At the same time, this is the perfect chance to give those artists exposure. They didn't even have a rock performance, though (I know Foo Fighters were slated, but we all know them so that felt rote).
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Post by jdanton2 on Apr 4, 2022 18:48:14 GMT -5
^you're right they didn't rehearse at all. Justin is touring he had a show in Pittsburgh on 2nd and flew into Vegas the morning of the Grammys. Like the video said they begged him and he finally accepted last miute. they never performed it together before except maybe the single and video. it is a shame because it is such a great song and a bit of rehearsing would have made it among the best of the night.
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Post by Joe1240 on Apr 5, 2022 2:08:19 GMT -5
The IHeartradio Music Awards were just a few weeks ago and rescheduled the show two years in a row makes for a bigger drop. The new generation of acts such as Olivia Rodrigo,Billie Ellish & Doja Cat don't have the same draw as the Katy Perry/Lady Gaga era of music yet, compare this to 2012 Grammys which had massive ratings at the time.
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Post by 14887fan on Apr 5, 2022 2:56:31 GMT -5
^Of course 2012 ratings are going to be higher than those in 2022. We have streaming, social media, etc. Younger generations don’t feel as obligated to buy cable packages, but rather just share passwords for streaming services. I don’t think the ratings difference is due to who the new crop of premier talent is vs. who it was 10 years ago.
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Post by Wave. on Apr 5, 2022 8:54:29 GMT -5
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Apr 5, 2022 9:38:43 GMT -5
^Of course 2012 ratings are going to be higher than those in 2022. We have streaming, social media, etc. Younger generations don’t feel as obligated to buy cable packages, but rather just share passwords for streaming services. I don’t think the ratings difference is due to who the new crop of premier talent is vs. who it was 10 years ago. I imagine getting the licensing and whatnot all worked out could be a nightmare but i do wonder whether these award shows could have better results if they jumped to a streaming site. I guess Paramount+ has the Grammys. I’d be curious to see how it works. (I tried last year but it wasn’t available on Paramount+ in Canada).
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Post by BDGeek on Apr 5, 2022 15:36:27 GMT -5
I love how consistently kind and supportive Gaga has been of other artists over the years. Giving One Direction a backstage pep talk when they were unfairly booed at the 2013 VMAs, writing Kelly Clarkson an appreciative letter after they played a show together in 2009, etc. It's nice to see such a talented musician stay gracious amid all her success.
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Post by Gary on Apr 5, 2022 21:01:08 GMT -5
Justin Bieber Went 0-for-8 at the 2022 Grammys: Who Else Has Done That? Jay-Z expressed his displeasure with his shutout with these biting lyrics: "Tell the Grammys f--- that 0-for-8 sh--."
By Paul Grein
04/5/2022
Justin Bieber attends the 64th Annual GRAMMY Awards at MGM Grand Garden Arena on April 03, 2022 in Las Vegas. Frazer Harrison/GI for The Recording Academy Justin Bieber was shut out at the 2022 Grammys, despite eight nominations – twice as many as he’d ever had in any one year. He’s not the first artist to go 0-for-8 at the Grammys. Three other superstars — Rihanna, Kanye West and Jay-Z — have experienced the same fate in recent years.
When the 1965 awards were announced in March 1966, Paul McCartney went 0-for-9, which remains the biggest shutout in Grammy history. But that was five years before the Grammys became a live telecast, so few even noticed. (The Grammys really only became the Grammys as we know them when they became a live telecast in 1971.)
The list of people who have been shut out in any given year (despite receiving seven or more nominations) includes some of the biggest Grammy winners of all time, including Stevie Wonder, who has won 25 career awards; West and Jay-Z, who have each won 24; and McCartney, who has won 18. Apparently, anybody can have an off night.
Let’s take a closer look at Grammys’ top shutouts – all the artists who received seven, eight or nine nominations in one year and lost ’em all.
Paul McCartney, 0-9 (1966) The shutout: McCartney’s nominations included record and song of the year for “Yesterday” and album of the year for The Beatles’ Help! soundtrack. John Lennon went 0-for-5 that year. You may be wondering how it is that McCartney had more nods than his songwriting partner. Because “Yesterday” was a McCartney solo vocal performance, the Grammys credited only him (rather than The Beatles) in that category and also in three other performance-linked categories for the track – best vocal performance, male; best contemporary (R&R) single; and best contemporary (R&R) vocal performance, male. (R&R stands for “rock and roll,” though “Yesterday” was hardly rock & roll. The Grammys basically meant “relevant to this young audience we’re trying to figure out.”) McCartney and The Beatles had won two Grammys at the 1964 awards, so after two years of virtually unprecedented world domination, they had won just two Grammys. (The late Roger Miller, a witty country singer/songwriter best known for the marvelous “King of the Road,” won 11 Grammys in this same two-year period. No disrespect to Miller, but c’mon Recording Academy, we’re talking The Beatles here!)
What happened next: Lennon and McCartney won song of the year the very next year for “Michelle,” a charming song, but one that is hardly in the class of “Yesterday.” The year after that, The Beatles finally won album of the year for Sgt. Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band. (They never managed to win record of the year, despite nods for “I Want to Hold Your Hand,” “Yesterday,” “Hey Jude” and “Let It Be.”) After the shutout, McCartney went on to win 16 more Grammys, bringing his career total to date to 18. The Recording Academy has since honored The Beatles on just about every anniversary imaginable. So that long-ago shutout is now officially ancient history.
Rihanna, 0-8 (2017) The shutout: Rihanna’s nominations included record of the year for “Work” (featuring Drake), album of the year as a featured artist on Drake’s Views and best urban contemporary album for her own Anti. It’s the biggest shutout by a female artist in Grammy history.
What happened next: The following year, Rihanna won another Grammy, her ninth, for best rap/sung performance as a featured artist on Kendrick Lamar’s “LOYALTY.” Rihanna has yet to release her studio follow-up to Anti (which was released in January 2016). Let’s hope the Grammy shutout didn’t have anything to do with Rihanna slowing the flow of albums.
Kanye West, 0-8 (2017) The shutout: West’s nominations included album of the year as a producer on Drake’s Views and best rap album for his own The Life of deleted.
What happened next: Two years after the shutout, West received his first nomination for producer of the year (non-classical). He didn’t win, but that’s such a competitive category, it really is “an honor just to be nominated.” West has won three Grammys in the last two years, bringing his career total to 24, which puts him in a tie with Jay-Z for the most by a rapper.
Jay-Z, 0-8 (2018) The shutout: Jay-Z’s nominations included record of the year for “The Story of O.J.,” album of the year for 4:44, and song of the year for the album’s title track.
What happened next: Jay expressed his displeasure with the shutout on “Apes**t” on The Carters’ Everything Is Love: “Tell the Grammys f— that 0-for-8 s**t/ Have you ever seen the crowd goin’ apes**t?” Memo to the Grammys: Never disappoint someone so skilled with a pen. Jay has won three more Grammys since the shutout. Everything Is Love (the album that contained that Grammys blast) won best urban contemporary album. He also won best rap song for co-writing the Megan Thee Stallion/Beyoncé collab “Savage” last year and the West/Jay collab “Jail” this year. This brings Jay’s Grammy total to 24, which puts him in a tie with West for the most by a rapper.
Justin Bieber, 0-8 (2022) The shutout: Bieber’s nominations included album of the year for the deluxe edition of Justice and record and song of the year for “Peaches” (featuring Daniel Caesar and Giveon).” Bieber and his featured artists also performed that pop/soul jam on the telecast.
What happened next: Let’s hope Bieber continues to make great records without too much concern for whether they win Grammys. And let’s hope that Grammy voters come to realize they have been underrating this talented artist, who bears no more resemblance to the kid who sang “Baby” than Justin Timberlake does to the kid who sang “Bye Bye Bye” or Michael Jackson did to the kid who sang “ABC.”
Stevie Wonder, 0-7 (1983) The shutout: Wonder’s nominations included record of the year for “Ebony and Ivory,” a glossy ode to interracial harmony that he recorded with McCartney, plus nods for his solo hits “That Girl” and “Do I Do.”
What happened next: Wonder has since won 10 more Grammys, to add to the 15 he had won prior to the shutout. This shutout came amid a nine-year Grammy gap between Wonder’s glory period in the ‘70s, when he won 15 Grammys in a four-year span, and his return to Grammy form with the 1985 album In Square Circle.
India.Arie, 0-7 (2002) The shutout: India.Arie’s nominations included each of the Big Four awards – album of the year (for Acoustic Soul), record and song of the year (for “Video”) and best new artist. She lost ‘em all, and three more besides. India.Arie performed “Video” on the telecast.
What happened next: India.Arie came back the very next year and won two Grammys – best R&B album for Voyage to India and best urban/alternative performance for “Little Things.” She has won four Grammys all told.
Kendrick Lamar, 0-7 (2014) The shutout: Lamar’s nominations included album of the year for good kid, m.A.A.d city and best new artist. He lost those two awards, and two others, to Macklemore & Ryan Lewis.
What happened next: Macklemore posted a message to Lamar on his Instagram saying that Lamar should have won for best rap album: “You got robbed. I wanted you to win. You should have. It’s weird and sucks that I robbed you … Congrats on this year and your music. Appreciate you as an artist and a friend. Much love.” Lamar has gone on to win 14 Grammys, including best rap performance this year for “Family Ties,” a collab with his cousin, Baby Keem. Lamar has yet to win a Grammy for album of the year (despite three more nods for To Pimp a Butterfly, DAMN. and the Black Panther soundtrack), but he did receive a Pulitzer Prize for DAMN., which is a pretty fair consolation prize.
Billie Eilish, 0-7 (2022) The shutout: Eilish’s nominations included record and song of the year for “Happier Than Ever” and album of the year for her album of the same name. Eilish made history at both of her first two Grammy telecasts. In 2020, she became only the second artist (following Christopher Cross) to win in each of the Big Four categories. In 2021, she became only the third artist (following Roberta Flack and U2) to win back-to-back awards for record of the year. Actually, she made history this year too. At 20, she’s the youngest artist to go 0-for-7 at the Grammys.
What happened next: With her boundless talent and that of her equally talented collaborator and producer, Finneas, we can be sure that there are many more awards in her future – and more importantly, more great music from her.
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Post by JOJO SIWA DERANGEMENT SYNDROME on Apr 5, 2022 23:12:56 GMT -5
Justin Bieber Went 0-for-8 at the 2022 Grammys: Who Else Has Done That? Page Six said this
Really?!
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Post by kimberly on Apr 5, 2022 23:46:38 GMT -5
they misspelled “he didn’t deserve these nominations in the first place” 🙄
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Apr 5, 2022 23:53:42 GMT -5
I question anyone who says any Bieber song deserves over Kiss Me More. I like Peaches and Ghost enough but let’s get real here.
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Post by Enigma. on Apr 6, 2022 1:37:37 GMT -5
I'm baffled at the praise towards Peaches. I haven't listened it in 6 months and don't even remember how it goes. (The telecast will be shown in my country tomorrow so I guess I'll find out then)
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Post by JOJO SIWA DERANGEMENT SYNDROME on Apr 6, 2022 3:23:50 GMT -5
I question anyone who says any Bieber song deserves over Kiss Me More but let’s get real here. Agreed. "Yummy" is one of the most basic things ever released and the fact that some acted like it was the best thing since sliced bread and indoor toilets were invented. It's truly frightening.
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Post by Wave. on Apr 6, 2022 9:47:20 GMT -5
Peaches is okay, I didn't really listen to "Justice" cause I wasn't feeling the pop sound. The recognition is good enough lol. If Doja/SZA didn't get at least one I would've been shocked. STILL sounds fresh. Wayy more catchy than Peaches.
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