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Post by Enigma. on Apr 25, 2021 14:27:00 GMT -5
I think in this case the remix _feels_ more organic, because The Weeknd and Ariana have collaborated before, several times in fact. It's not like that Jawsh whatever number/BTS/Derulo situation or Doja/Nicki.
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Post by degen on Apr 25, 2021 14:35:56 GMT -5
There’s literally nothing organic about waiting til a song reaches its potential radio peak to release a lazy remix just to boost its chart performance. “More organic” would’ve been a brand new song.
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Post by allow that on Apr 25, 2021 14:43:59 GMT -5
I think in this case the remix _feels_ more organic, because The Weeknd and Ariana have collaborated before, several times in fact. It's not like that Jawsh whatever number/BTS/Derulo situation or Doja/Nicki. It’s literally exactly like that. It’s a copy/paste remix of an existing smash where the featured artist will get one week of chart credit and the original artist will get a chart boost to #1. “Organic” would have been a duet from the get-go, or at the very least a remix that came out as the official single version when the single and video first dropped.
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Post by spiritboy on Apr 25, 2021 14:51:18 GMT -5
Labels used to release physical singles (CDs) to boost a song's chances to hit #1 when they were at their airplay peak so i see nothing wrong with releasing remixes to get that #1 spot.
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Post by Gary on Apr 25, 2021 14:52:50 GMT -5
so then what's all the uproar about on this remix?
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Post by fridayteenage on Apr 25, 2021 15:19:50 GMT -5
I wonder if every year this decade will have 10+ 1 week #1s, after last year being the first in the soundscan era.
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Post by iamsorare on Apr 25, 2021 17:11:56 GMT -5
Dr. Luke and Maroon 5 having the biggest gains on Spotify, the US is doomed And yes, supporting Doja Cat doesn't mean we support Dr. Luke as well. Unfortunately, Doja is apparently stuck on a contract, and I wouldn't be surprised if Puke added a writing credit on "Kiss Me More" (a song he had no hand in producing) just so he could achieve monetary gain from its success. Just a theory, of course. I am disappointed Saweetie has been willingly working with him, though, and as much as I enjoy "Best Friend", I do feel rather guilty about its success, though we should focus on who behind the mike, and she deserves mainstream success. Dr Luke didn't produce kiss me more but he's on the writing credits of the song
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Post by aussie1 on Apr 25, 2021 20:55:33 GMT -5
I have no problem with people remixing songs and them going #1 especially if they are already big hits like 'Save Your Tears' is. My problem with "inorganic" #1's are the mass buying that could send them to #1. So basically any BTS #1 really.
Save Your Tears going #1 to me is fine. Radio, sales and streams are all there. The remix was just used as a booster it's not that big of a deal.
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Apr 25, 2021 23:49:57 GMT -5
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Post by thegreatdivine on Apr 26, 2021 2:07:28 GMT -5
Looking at this, Leave the Door Open should probably return to #1 after Save Your Tears if it remains stable with sales/streams. The airplay gains will also help.
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Post by Lost In Musical Reverie on Apr 26, 2021 4:02:18 GMT -5
iamsorare That's what I said. " Unfortunately, Doja is apparently stuck on a contract, and I wouldn't be surprised if Puke added a writing credit on "Kiss Me More" (a song he had no hand in producing) just so he could achieve monetary gain from its success. Just a theory, of course."
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Post by Enigma. on Apr 26, 2021 4:38:18 GMT -5
That Deja Vu number should be -91k sadly
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Apr 26, 2021 4:39:54 GMT -5
US Spotify - 04/24/21
1(=) Polo G - RAPSTAR 1,901,614 (-44,112) 2(+1) Doja Cat - Kiss Me More 1,577,920 (-11,801) 3(+1) Lil Nas X - MONTERO (Call Me By Your Name) 1,525,156 (-35,845) 4(+1) Justin Bieber - Peaches 1,408,074 (+14,148) 5(-3) The Weeknd - Save Your Tears Remix 1,271,188 (-452,717) 6(+1) Dua Lipa - Levitating 1,193,075 (+52,236) 7(-1) Olivia Rodrigo - deja vu 1,068,874 (-91,621) 8(=) Masked Wolf - Astronaut In The Ocean 975,848 (+8,433) 9(+1) Bruno Mars, Anderson .Paak, Silk Sonic - Leave the Door Open 881,830 (+20,839) 10(-1) Giveon - Heartbreak Anniversary 876,383 (-32,232)
Others: 11(=) Cardi B - Up 872,543 (+19,673) 12(+1) Drake - Wants and Needs 739,760 (-26,610) 13(-1) Young Stoner Life, Young Thug, Gunna - Solid 738,751 (-35,373) 14(+4) Saweetie - Best Friend 715,482 (+30,261) 15(-1) Lil Tjay, 6LACK - Calling My Phone 709,551 (-6,872) 16(-1) Glass Animals - Heat Waves 708,482 (+4,202) 17(-1) Kali Uchis - telepatía 701,411 (+887) 18(-3) Olivia Rodrigo - drivers license 670,464 (-29,079) 19(=) SZA - Good Days 654,489 (-23,101) 20(=) Doja Cat - Streets 649,417 (-18,690) 22(-1) Drake - What's Next 612,630 (-22,117) 24(+1) Pooh Shiesty - Back in Blood 542,711 (-12,925) 25(+3) Justin Bieber - Hold On 527,659 (-2,044) 27(+2) The Kid LAROI - WITHOUT YOU 511,444 (-9,747) 28(-4) The Weeknd - Save Your Tears 511,227 (-64,638) 29(-3) Lil Tjay - Headshot 510,180 (-38,096) 30(-3) Maroon 5 - Beautiful Mistakes 499,884 (-44,367) 32(+9) Travis Scott, HVME - Goosebumps 448,447 (+22,637) 33(+1) Lil Tjay - Run It Up 444,001 (-27,649) 34(+3) AURORA - Runaway 433,615 (-11,351) 37(+1) Machine Gun Kelly - my ex's best friend 426,934 (-11,702) 38(+2) Lil Baby - On Me 412,893 (-13,200) 39(-6) Young Stoner Life, Young Thug, Gunna - Ski 410,083 (-63,731) 43(-8) Taylor Swift - Mr. Perfectly Fine 402,954 (-57,023) 44(-8) MoneyBagg Yo - Shottas (Lala) 401,560 (-46,286) 45(+2) Kevin Gates - Big Gangsta 395,484 (+13,340) 47(+3) Pop Smoke - What You Know Bout Love 390,240 (+14,206) 48(+3) Los Legendarios, Wisin, Jhay Cortez - Fiel 386,370 (+13,669) 53(-8) MoneyBagg Yo - Time Today 358,526 (-32,493) 55(-1) SpotemGottem - Beat Box 3 355,165 (-8,555) 60(-8) Rod Wave - Richer 347,394 (-23,101) 63(-32) H.E.R. - Come Through 340,465 (-158,581) 66(+5) Gera MX, Christian Nodal - Botella Tras Botella 337,834 (-2,192) 67(-6) 42 Dugg - 4 Da Gang 337,761 (-16,363) 68(+7) Dua Lipa - We're Good 335,376 (+3,241) 69(-2) Duncan Laurence - Arcade 333,240 (-12,750) 70(-10) Beach Bunny - Cloud 9 333,224 (-22,002) 72(+4) Billie Eilish - Therefore I Am 328,605 (-3,037) 74(-2) Luke Combs - Forever After All 325,728 (-10,894) 75(+10) Tiësto - The Business 325,317 (+12,609) 78(+9) Bad Bunny, ROSALÍA - LA NOCHE DE ANOCHE 316,139 (+8,949) 79(-22) Demi Lovato - Met Him Last Night 315,813 (-43,297) 88(-9) Tate McRae - you broke me first 293,153 (-31,971) 89(+6) Rod Wave - Tombstone 292,891 (-623) 90(-37) Young Stoner Life, Young Thug - Litty 291,102 (-75,562) 93(+7) Eric Church - Hell Of A View 284,548 (-1,569) 96(-12) Regard, Troye Sivan, Tate McRae - You 281,028 (-31,701) 98(-33) Young Stoner Life, Young Thug, Gunna - Diamonds Dancing 278,268 (-68,762) 97(+9) Mooski - Track Star 280,055 (+3,139)
111(-2) Gabby Barrett - The Good Ones 261,625 (-10,022) 117(-10) Riton, Nightcrawlers - Friday 251,617 (-22,890) 118(-10) Ashnikko Princess Nokia - Slumber Party 251,516 (-22,182) 131(+5) Rod Wave - Street Runner 239,317 (-9,885) 134(+16) Pop Smoke - Hello 238,429 (-1,703) 137(+3) MARINA - Bubblegum Bitch 235,870 (-11,314) 145(+36) Nelly, Florida Georgia Line - Lil Bit 232,832 (+8,406) 149(+37) Only The Family, Lil Durk - Hellcats & Trackhawks 231,246 (+10,138) 150(-9) 24kGoldn - Company 230,096 (-14,907) 151(-17) Lil Baby - Real As It Gets 229,952 (-20,494) 170(-21) Twenty One Pilots - Shy Away 220,936 (-19,299) 184(+1) Surf Curse - Freaks 211,691 (-9,809) 180(-68) Cordae - Wassup 216,155 (-52,587)
Total Streams for Save Your Tears: 1,782,415
Biggest Gains (50K+): Know, deja vu, Levitating
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Post by jenglisbe on Apr 26, 2021 9:22:20 GMT -5
Wow, "SYT" remix really only had 1-2 days of great streaming and is going to nab #1.
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Post by ontopofthis on Apr 26, 2021 9:24:51 GMT -5
The song is the most streamed song behind Rapstar, so everything is terrible if that is terrible
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Post by jenglisbe on Apr 26, 2021 9:34:49 GMT -5
The song is the most streamed song behind Rapstar, so everything is terrible if that is terrible The remix is #5, so I am not sure what you are talking about. I also didn't say its numbers are "terrible." Perhaps you need a reading comprehension class?
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Post by chartfreak on Apr 26, 2021 9:38:55 GMT -5
Labels used to release physical singles (CDs) to boost a song's chances to hit #1 when they were at their airplay peak so i see nothing wrong with releasing remixes to get that #1 spot. Why are people acting like these "chart manipulations" are something new????
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Post by Soundcl🕤ck on Apr 26, 2021 9:42:13 GMT -5
Wow, "SYT" remix really only had 1-2 days of great streaming and is going to nab #1. current #1 is weak, and SYT was already #2 on radio, good YT and Spotify streams, and it'll be the best selling song of the week thanks to Ari.
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Post by chartfreak on Apr 26, 2021 9:42:15 GMT -5
why do madonna stans on pulse love being problematic Don't lump us all in one category. Thanks.
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Post by dodgerslakers94 on Apr 26, 2021 9:45:12 GMT -5
Wow, "SYT" remix really only had 1-2 days of great streaming and is going to nab #1. current #1 is weak, and SYT was already #2 on radio, good YT and Spotify streams, and it'll be the best selling song of the week thanks to Ari. Which is why I think SYT will spend a second week at #1.
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Post by Enigma. on Apr 26, 2021 9:50:09 GMT -5
I suspect Billie Eilish is releasing on Friday (not confirmed yet) so it's still way too early to say anything about that.
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Post by Soundcl🕤ck on Apr 26, 2021 9:56:42 GMT -5
current #1 is weak, and SYT was already #2 on radio, good YT and Spotify streams, and it'll be the best selling song of the week thanks to Ari. Which is why I think SYT will spend a second week at #1. not sure about that tbh. LTDO (while weak) is still pretty much stable, mostly thanks to the discount and radio. and like Enigma said, Billie might release her lead single or something on Friday.
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Post by meg on Apr 26, 2021 10:02:57 GMT -5
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Post by firefox on Apr 26, 2021 10:12:37 GMT -5
Billboard still got time to do something about D2C bundles.
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Post by ontopofthis on Apr 26, 2021 10:16:15 GMT -5
The song is the most streamed song behind Rapstar, so everything is terrible if that is terrible The remix is #5, so I am not sure what you are talking about. I also didn't say its numbers are "terrible." Perhaps you need a reading comprehension class? Where do I bring up the remix? Right back at you along with a class in syntax
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Apr 26, 2021 10:19:39 GMT -5
firefox I think you'd better just prepare for another BTS number one single.
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Post by jenglisbe on Apr 26, 2021 10:20:37 GMT -5
The remix is #5, so I am not sure what you are talking about. I also didn't say its numbers are "terrible." Perhaps you need a reading comprehension class? Where do I bring up the remix? Right back at you along with a class in syntax I noted the remix is #5 on Spotify. You replied "the song" is the most streamed behind "Rockstar." That is true combining the original and remix, so what was your intent? My post was specifically about the remix.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2021 10:23:51 GMT -5
firefox I think you'd better just prepare for another BTS number one single. According to a media press release Butter is going to be in English. This is going to definitely go #1. Also, since BTS's company takes control of Scooter Braun's company with employees intact on May 7th this song will get full promotion to the same level Ariana and Bieber gets.
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Post by Mayman on Apr 26, 2021 10:24:40 GMT -5
Can't wait to see the new made up records BTS will break!!
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Post by meg on Apr 26, 2021 10:29:31 GMT -5
According to korea media, they will release new album in june too.
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