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Post by phieaglesfan712 on May 1, 2021 8:49:07 GMT -5
Let's not overthink this: Leave the Door Open is returning to #1 on the 5/15 chart. That much, I can guarantee. The real question is which of those other songs will end up being #2.
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Post by iamsorare on May 1, 2021 9:17:51 GMT -5
Let's not overthink this: Leave the Door Open is returning to #1 on the 5/15 chart. That much, I can guarantee. The real question is which of those other songs will end up being #2. I want peaches to return on top but okay
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Post by Enigma. on May 1, 2021 9:36:58 GMT -5
LTDO seems to be slowing down on radio except on Urban so dunno about it being "a guaranteed #1"
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Post by forg on May 1, 2021 9:48:52 GMT -5
Billie #1, with 2.089 million on Spotify, no Khaled in top ten (Baby Keem/Travis Scott is the biggest NE actually) Good start for full day streaming! Speaks a lot of Billie's star power now
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Post by ontopofthis on May 1, 2021 9:54:17 GMT -5
It will be pretty strange if the Bruno Mars song is number one again. The songβs Spotify is down by approximately 40,000 Friday to Friday, and the streaming is already down 8% with Hits. That means that the streaming is going to be down again. On the other hand, Kiss Me More is up by 300,000 on Spotify, and the song is top ten yet surging on Apple Music amidst the Khaled project having a bunch of the top positions
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Post by phieaglesfan712 on May 1, 2021 9:58:29 GMT -5
Even if LTDO is slowing down on radio, it is still #1 and has a wide advantage over the other songs on the metric. Don't forget that LTDO still has the iTunes discount, and the rest of the songs do not.
Peaches is closing the gap on LTDO on radio, but I think Justin needs to put the iTunes discount for it to challenge LTDO for #1 for this charting week. SYT, especially the remix, has fallen on iTunes since the discount was removed. (If Abel's team was really going for 2 weeks at the top, why would they remove the discount on SYT and keep it on Earned It?) Billie's new single on iTunes is falling, and she probably needs to put on the discount for it to have a chance at #1. I can see Kiss Me More eventually going to #1 (possibly with a remix), but I think #4 or #5 seems reasonable for the 5/15 chart.
My prediction:
1. LTDO 2. Peaches 3. Save Your Tears 4. Your Power 5. Kiss Me More
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Post by meg on May 1, 2021 10:11:58 GMT -5
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Post by Limited Edition on May 1, 2021 10:26:07 GMT -5
As long as it's not the boring Billie Eilish song we're happy!
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Post by jthentic on May 1, 2021 11:10:13 GMT -5
Billie #1, with 2.089 million on Spotify, no Khaled in top ten (Baby Keem/Travis Scott is the biggest NE actually) Good start for full day streaming! Speaks a lot of Billie's star power now Validity - 1week until someone spends more bucks than interscope & bag all the top spots of every mainstream playlist & adspace π¬
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Post by 85la on May 1, 2021 13:22:06 GMT -5
Billie's debut nos are mainly due to extensive playlisting & promo (interscope is really spending alot; she's #1 in almost all playlists) PS: all her singles post badguy burnt real fast There is some truth to this but I think bad guy really set the precedence for some unrealistic commercial expectations with her singles. I've never and still don't view her as a hitmaker. I don't think I can point to 5 songs in her entire discography so far that are actual radio-friendly bops. I appreciate that she doesn't shoot for hits with her songs. She makes the music she wants to make and most of her songs really aren't tailored to be smash hits on the charts. I get that she's a huge mainstream star now and that comes with commercial expectations but I personally only have any commercial expectations for her albums. So far so good, she seems like the kind of artist whose albums will serve longevity. Pair that along with her being a viable arena touring act already and it seems like she'll be here for as long as she wants. There is not much truth to this actually, as Everything I Wanted and Therefore I Am went on to be pretty sizable hits (the latter maybe not as much as the former, but after falling from its #2 peak, it rebounded into the top 15 for a while, so it was sizable). I agree that she leans slightly more on being more of an album artist, but let's not act like she and her label don't craft a few songs from her quirky brand of pop meant to be big radio hits that will carry the album. It definitely seems like TIA was meant to be such a song, and maybe after it underperformed slightly, they're hoping for Your Power to do the trick, although I do kind of agree that with this particular song, it doesn't sound like it was crafted to be an immediate radio jam, so maybe they're going more with her "natural style" with this and aren't exactly expecting big opening numbers, but it had a good couple opening days on Spotify, so still too early to tell.
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Post by degen on May 1, 2021 16:40:35 GMT -5
I hope itβs βPeachesβ that returns to #1. It has a combination of good airplay and streams and more deserving of getting more weeks at the top. LTDO is a radio monster but itβs streams are a little underwhelming.
I also think we are underestimating βKiss Me Moreβ a bit. Despite dropping to #2 on spotify, it has reached its highest peak in streaming yet. It might not hit #1 on this week but itβs coming for #1 at some point in May.
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Post by Limited Edition on May 1, 2021 17:53:15 GMT -5
Off topic but can we talk about Life Is Good and its sudden drop in Youtube views? I never understood how it managed to get so many Youtube views and this makes it even more suspicious. The song that was consistently getting over 3M views a day for months should not have such a huge drop. Very weird. Also the song is eligible for Diamond:
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Post by gikem on May 1, 2021 18:02:46 GMT -5
I also think we are underestimating βKiss Me Moreβ a bit. Despite dropping to #2 on spotify, it has reached its highest peak in streaming yet. It might not hit #1 on this week but itβs coming for #1 at some point in May. KMM has "song of the summer" written all over it. I think it will absolutely go to #1 at some point, it's just a question of whether they can sneak in a week up there before BTS swoops in and potentially competes for that SOTS crown.
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Post by π‘πππππ€ on May 1, 2021 19:33:51 GMT -5
I never understood how it managed to get so many Youtube views and this makes it even more suspicious. The song that was consistently getting over 3M views a day for months should not have such a huge drop. Very weird. well, for whatever the reason, greatdivine will have an excuse
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Post by iHype. on May 1, 2021 20:02:09 GMT -5
It was ironic enough the pandemic happened after "Life Is Good" dropped, maybe the YouTube freefall is signaling the pandemic decline hehe.
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Post by degen on May 1, 2021 20:39:09 GMT -5
I also think we are underestimating βKiss Me Moreβ a bit. Despite dropping to #2 on spotify, it has reached its highest peak in streaming yet. It might not hit #1 on this week but itβs coming for #1 at some point in May. KMM has "song of the summer" written all over it. I think it will absolutely go to #1 at some point, it's just a question of whether they can sneak in a week up there before BTS swoops in and potentially competes for that SOTS crown. The BTS hype is overblown. Their singles donβt even last that long in the Top 10. If anything theyβll get one week at #1 and fall from there.
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Post by gikem on May 1, 2021 21:05:12 GMT -5
KMM has "song of the summer" written all over it. I think it will absolutely go to #1 at some point, it's just a question of whether they can sneak in a week up there before BTS swoops in and potentially competes for that SOTS crown. The BTS hype is overblown. Their singles donβt even last that long in the Top 10. If anything theyβll get one week at #1 and fall from there. We'll have to see about that. It's another English-language single, and I'm sure they'll put out several remixes upon release. And BTS' stans have proven wih Dynamite that they can keep a song around at the top to break whatever record(s) they desire, even when other categories don't quite compensate. EDIT: Removed the part about Scooter Braun, I must gave gotten some wires crossed in my head there.
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Post by chartfreak on May 1, 2021 21:56:24 GMT -5
I also think we are underestimating βKiss Me Moreβ a bit. Despite dropping to #2 on spotify, it has reached its highest peak in streaming yet. It might not hit #1 on this week but itβs coming for #1 at some point in May. KMM has "song of the summer" written all over it. I think it will absolutely go to #1 at some point, it's just a question of whether they can sneak in a week up there before BTS swoops in and potentially competes for that SOTS crown. I've yet to hear this song. I think I need to start streaming it.
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Post by violentdreams on May 1, 2021 22:40:15 GMT -5
It's pretty obvious some weird algorithm glitch chose Life Is Good to obsessively recommend to people and YouTube dragged their feet on fixing it. It's funny that it's happening now though, I expected it to just keep racking up 3M views per day for the next five years.
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Post by thegreatdivine on May 1, 2021 23:59:25 GMT -5
I never understood how it managed to get so many Youtube views and this makes it even more suspicious. The song that was consistently getting over 3M views a day for months should not have such a huge drop. Very weird. well, for whatever the reason, greatdivine will have an excuse What excuse? Take away the bulk of it's US YouTube streams and it has still moved 6-7M units in the US. If there's anything fishy going on, that's entirely on YouTube. Don't they claim to have systems in place to detect streams by bots and fake/bought streams? The only thing I can point to is that YouTube's algorithm favored Life Is Good for a time (like it's done with several other music videos in the past), but for some reason, people only have an issue when it's a rap video being favored. I couldn't escape Shape of You/Despacito on YouTube in 2017 because of vicious recommendations/autoplay and in 2018 the same thing happened with Perfect/Girls Like You, so much so that I turned off my autoplay and stopped using YouTube as much but not once did I see anyone on this site or anywhere else make any complaints. I don't even care. Y'all have been on this since last year and I've discussed this very topic enough times to know I have nothing else to say on it.
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Post by π‘πππππ€ on May 2, 2021 0:40:35 GMT -5
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Post by meg on May 2, 2021 2:24:37 GMT -5
The BTS hype is overblown. Their singles donβt even last that long in the Top 10. If anything theyβll get one week at #1 and fall from there. We'll have to see about that. It's another English-language single, Scooter Braun's team is handling the promotion, and I'm sure they'll put out several remixes upon release. And BTS' stans have proven wih Dynamite that they can keep a song around at the top to break whatever record(s) they desire, even when other categories don't quite compensate. Scooter is not handling any promotions for them. Columbia is. He has literally nothing to do with them, he didn't said a word about this song.
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Post by iwin on May 2, 2021 3:40:47 GMT -5
KMM has "song of the summer" written all over it. I think it will absolutely go to #1 at some point, it's just a question of whether they can sneak in a week up there before BTS swoops in and potentially competes for that SOTS crown. The BTS hype is overblown. Their singles donβt even last that long in the Top 10. If anything theyβll get one week at #1 and fall from there. Dynamite was no1 for 3 weeks and that is because there was W.A.P blocking it otherwise it wouldve been no1 longer. Bts hype is definitely deserved
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Post by thegreatdivine on May 2, 2021 5:48:35 GMT -5
I'm guessing BTS fans have enough money saved up to have their next single remain at #1 for 10+ weeks via strictly digital sales if that's what it takes.
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Post by kiddo1994 on May 2, 2021 6:04:55 GMT -5
Off topic but can we talk about Life Is Good and its sudden drop in Youtube views? I never understood how it managed to get so many Youtube views and this makes it even more suspicious. The song that was consistently getting over 3M views a day for months should not have such a huge drop. Very weird. Also the song is eligible for Diamond: i got this song queued, recommended and sometimes played next even tho i don't listen to either of them.. algorithm or paid recommendations or whatever, one thing is for sure, this song is not as BIG as it seems.. a Bon Appetit kind of situation, the difference is it's a legit HIT whereas Bon Appetit isnt
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on May 2, 2021 8:41:55 GMT -5
US Spotify - 05/01/21
1(+2) Polo G - RAPSTAR 1,771,664 (+9,669) 2(=) Doja Cat - Kiss Me More 1,767,707 (-78,940) 3(+1) Lil Nas X - MONTERO (Call Me By Your Name) 1,444,599 (-26,114) 4(-3) Billie Eilish - Your Power 1,349,395 (-738,738) 5(=) Justin Bieber - Peaches 1,343,265 (+60,309) 6(=) Dua Lipa - Levitating 1,284,080 (+44,143) 7(=) Olivia Rodrigo - deja vu 995,840 (-59,618) 8(=) Masked Wolf - Astronaut In The Ocean 974,630 (+27,070) 9(+2) Bruno Mars, Anderson .Paak, Silk Sonic - Leave the Door Open 843,832 (+21,542) 10(+4) Cardi B - Up 826,639 (+27,065)
Others: 11(-2) The Weeknd - Save Your Tears Remix 816,205 (-77,073) 12(-2) Giveon - Heartbreak Anniversary 800,282 (-35,325) 13(+3) Glass Animals - Heat Waves 763,039 (+23,108) 14(+3) Drake - Wants and Needs 724,996 (+3,881) 15(+6) Saweetie - Best Friend 709,643 (+33,628) 16(+3) Lil Tjay, 6LACK - Calling My Phone 704,339 (+11,822) 17(+6) Kali Uchis - telepatΓa 670,927 (+440) 18(+7) Young Stoner Life, Young Thug, Gunna - Solid 655,928 (+3,622) 19(+3) Doja Cat - Streets 656,354 (-14,759) 20(-7) The Kid LAROI - WITHOUT YOU Remix 652,111 (-148,828) 21(+3) Olivia Rodrigo - drivers license 642,804 (-25,898) 22(+4) SZA - Good Days 634,229 (-6,575) 25(-7) DJ Khaled - EVERY CHANCE I GET 572,432 (-127,984) 26(+3) Pooh Shiesty - Back in Blood 569,569 (+6,144) 27(-12) DJ Khaled - I DID IT 544,985 (-226,447) 28(+3) Drake - What's Next 540,055 (-8,034) 30(+3) Lil Tjay - Headshot 514,428 (-15,087) 31(+3) Justin Bieber - Hold On 506,798 (-2,467) 32(+3) Maroon 5 - Beautiful Mistakes 499,349 (-9,343) 33(+7) Travis Scott, HVME - Goosebumps 498,270 (+25,281) 34(-22) Baby Keem - durag activity 482,345 (-321,189) 36(+2) Machine Gun Kelly - my ex's best friend 479,537 (-9,286) 37(-17) Machine Gun Kelly, Sleeping With Sirens - love race 475,106 (-208,283) 38(+4) Joyner Lucas, Lil Baby - Ramen & OJ 456,621 (-7,574) 39(+2) The Weeknd - Save Your Tears 452,791 (-11,710) 41(+3) Lil Tjay - Run It Up 431,456 (-8,973) 44(-12) Lil Baby - On Me Remix 413,569 (-118,986) 45(+1) AURORA - Runaway 412,500 (-26,746) 46(+6) Los Legendarios, Wisin, Jhay Cortez - Fiel 411,269 (+10,420) 47(=) Young Stoner Life, Young Thug, Gunna - Ski 404,507 (-8,936) 49(-22) DJ Khaled - LET IT GO 390,656 (-212,781) 50(+4) Kevin Gates - Big Gangsta 390,358 (+1,918) 51(=) 42 Dugg - 4 Da Gang 389,732 (-12,651) 57(+10) Cico P - Tampa 375,211 (+9,874) 60(+2) Luke Combs - Forever After All 373,797 (+1,059) 61(+2) Gera MX, Christian Nodal - Botella Tras Botella 369,034 (-1,411) 62(-14) The Kid LAROI - WITHOUT YOU 367,992 (-39,259) 67(+6) SpotemGottem - Beat Box 3 348,442 (+796) 68(+15) Dua Lipa - We're Good 346,054 (+11,162) 70(+14) TiΓ«sto - The Business 343,686 (+11,945) 74(-3) Duncan Laurence - Arcade 332,661 (-20,294) 76(-40) Twenty One Pilots - Choker 330,048 (-172,703) 81(-31) DJ Khaled - SORRY NOT SORRY 317,052 (-85,739) 82(+5) Rod Wave - Richer 315,199 (-9,852) 83(-3) Beach Bunny - Cloud 9 315,008 (-21,738) 90(-14) Twenty One Pilots - Shy Away 302,172 (-41,930) 91(+4) MoneyBagg Yo - Time Today 300,611 (-6,300) 92(+9) Lil Baby - On Me 299,321 (+2,679) 94(+13) Bad Bunny, ROSALΓA - LA NOCHE DE ANOCHE 297,861 (+7,483) 99(+1) Gabby Barrett - The Good Ones 295,967 (-879)
101(+51) NLE Choppa - Final Warning 293,505 (+45,949) 104(-7) Surf Curse - Freaks 288,815 (-14,074) 111(+20) StarBoi3 - Dick 273,827 (+12,819) 114(-3) Riton, Nightcrawlers - Friday 270,095 (-17,631) 116(+4) Regard, Troye Sivan, Tate McRae - You 267,327 (-10,231) 118(+3) Thomas Rhett - Country Again 265,552 (-10,000) 119(+15) Mooski - Track Star 263,528 (+5,056) 125(-12) H.E.R. - Come Through 259,096 (-25,367) 132(+34) Nelly, Florida Georgia Line - Lil Bit 254,236 (+16,066) 133(-19) MoneyBagg Yo - Shottas (Lala) 253,748 (-29,588) 137(-10) Ashnikko Princess Nokia - Slumber Party 249,367 (-17,518) 138(+2) 24kGoldn - Company 249,279 (-3,893) 142(-26) 21 Savage - Spiral 245,680 (-36,394) 152(-14) Gucci Mane - Shit Crazy 238,272 (-27,237) 176(-14) MARINA - Bubblegum Bitch 226,843 (-12,205) 181(re-entry) KAROL G, Mariah Angeliq - EL MAKINON 224,742 182(+4) Rod Wave - Street Runner 224,364 (-3,998) 184(-13) Rod Wave - Tombstone 223,187 (-13,627) 185(debut) Jake Owen - Made for You 222,883 187(re-entry) Ryan Hurd - Chasing After You 221,113
Total Streams for Save Your Tears: 1,268,996 Total Streams for WITHOUT YOU: 1,020,103 Total Streams for On Me: 712,890
Biggest Gains (50K+): Peaches
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Post by HolidayGuy on May 2, 2021 9:42:42 GMT -5
It's bad enough that featurings have become so overdone in the last several years- but these tacking hot-of-the-moment acts onto "remixes"? Ugh. It happened every so often before streaming took off, but it's gotten too much in the last year.
Having said that, it's marketing, and even if it yields a chart-topping result for even a week, it's still a chart topper. Not a longevity chart topper for the featured act, if only credited for a week or so, but still.
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Post by fridayteenage on May 2, 2021 10:40:56 GMT -5
It's bad enough that featurings have become so overdone in the last several years- but these tacking hot-of-the-moment acts onto "remixes"? Ugh. It happened every so often before streaming took off, but it's gotten too much in the last year. Having said that, it's marketing, and even if it yields a chart-topping result for even a week, it's still a chart topper. Not a longevity chart topper for the featured act, if only credited for a week or so, but still. I still remember the glorious time when Rihanna had Britney on S&M. I'm guessing BTS fans have enough money saved up to have their next single remain at #1 for 10+ weeks via strictly digital sales if that's what it takes. on digital songs, sure. on h100? i dunno.
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Post by matt on May 2, 2021 10:46:05 GMT -5
It's bad enough that featurings have become so overdone in the last several years- but these tacking hot-of-the-moment acts onto "remixes"? Ugh. It happened every so often before streaming took off, but it's gotten too much in the last year. Having said that, it's marketing, and even if it yields a chart-topping result for even a week, it's still a chart topper. Not a longevity chart topper for the featured act, if only credited for a week or so, but still. I don't understand why Billboard is skipping the 50% rule though.. Say So Remix, 34+35 remix, and now Save Your Tears (?) all got credited despite the remix not apporting to most part of the overall points. Why didn't they do this for Savage remix's first week too? if the remix gave the song a huge increase in points? Also, not trying to shade anyone but why are all those undeserved credited remixes from Republic Records artists? all managed by Scooter Braun.
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