Billboard Hot 100: 05/15/2021

[Enigma.]

The highest DJ Khaled song is #54 on global Spotify :o

[willnower]

May 2, 2021 10:46:05 GMT -5 matt said:

May 2, 2021 9:42:42 GMT -5 HolidayGuy said:

It's bad enough that featurings have become so overdone in the last several years- but these tacking hot-of-the-moment acts onto "remixes"? Ugh. It happened every so often before streaming took off, but it's gotten too much in the last year.

Having said that, it's marketing, and even if it yields a chart-topping result for even a week, it's still a chart topper. Not a longevity chart topper for the featured act, if only credited for a week or so, but still.

I don't understand why Billboard is skipping the 50% rule though.. Say So Remix, 34+35 remix, and now Save Your Tears (?) all got credited despite the remix not apporting to most part of the overall points.  Why didn't they do this for Savage remix's first week too? if the remix gave the song a huge increase in points? Also, not trying to shade anyone but why are all those undeserved credited remixes from Republic Records artists? all managed by Scooter Braun. 

I had no idea Billboard started disregarding their 50% rule with regards to remixes. I still believe it should apply but I don’t see Save Your Tears having Ariana’s credit for long. While this may be irrelevant, Savage was released by 1501 which is under 300 Entertainment which isn’t a major record label despite having some connections to Atlantic (I believe its physical distribution is handled by Atlantic). The other songs you mentioned were all either released directly by major record labels or labels under major record labels like with Doja who’s signed to Kemosabe which is under RCA.

[strongerq]

They say a picture can tell a thousand word, what aboout a gif ?

[neverduplicated]

I don’t think the 50% rule is even that great for these one-week remixes. It just seems weird to me that a song like SYT can be so popular for such a long time and then a totally different artist gets credited with a #1 single just for riding the wave of success the song was already having. That’s not shade towards Ari, I just don’t like artists getting credited with #1 singles in this way. Years from now, I doubt many people will remember she was even on this remix, much like most of these types of remixes. I think the featured artist should only be credited if 50% of the TOTAL chart points for the song’s life is because of the remix.

[Enigma.]

^^OMG DYING

[matt]

May 2, 2021 11:10:24 GMT -5 willnower said:

May 2, 2021 10:46:05 GMT -5 matt said:

I don't understand why Billboard is skipping the 50% rule though.. Say So Remix, 34+35 remix, and now Save Your Tears (?) all got credited despite the remix not apporting to most part of the overall points.  Why didn't they do this for Savage remix's first week too? if the remix gave the song a huge increase in points? Also, not trying to shade anyone but why are all those undeserved credited remixes from Republic Records artists? all managed by Scooter Braun. 

I had no idea Billboard started disregarding their 50% rule with regards to remixes. I still believe it should apply but I don’t see Save Your Tears having Ariana’s credit for long. 

That's at least what talkofthecharts pointed out. Billboard doesn't even pay attention to their own rules anymore.... And yes, the remix saw a massive decrease in streams so she will keep her credit for like, 3 weeks at best. Unless a music video for the remix is released, like 34+35.

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May 1, 2021 23:59:25 GMT -5 thegreatdivine said:

May 1, 2021 19:33:51 GMT -5 𝕡𝕙𝕖𝕖𝕓𝕤 said:

well, for whatever the reason, greatdivine will have an excuse

What excuse? Take away the bulk of it's US YouTube streams and it has still moved 6-7M units in the US.

If there's anything fishy going on, that's entirely on YouTube. Don't they claim to have systems in place to detect streams by bots and fake/bought streams?

The only thing I can point to is that YouTube's algorithm favored Life Is Good for a time (like it's done with several other music videos in the past), but for some reason, people only have an issue when it's a rap video being favored. I couldn't escape Shape of You/Despacito on YouTube in 2017 because of vicious recommendations/autoplay and in 2018 the same thing happened with Perfect/Girls Like You, so much so that I turned off my autoplay and stopped using YouTube as much but not once did I see anyone on this site or anywhere else make any complaints.

I don't even care. Y'all have been on this since last year and I've discussed this very topic enough times to know I have nothing else to say on it.

I mean, there's a difference, SOY and Despacito are one of the biggest songs of all time, LIG is an average hit. Eligibility for diamond and falling out of the top 200 on YouTube, on the same day? This is not YouTube only, and I don't think it's Drake, he doesn't need that to have a diamond hit.

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May 2, 2021 11:19:23 GMT -5 neverduplicated said:

I don’t think the 50% rule is even that great for these one-week remixes. It just seems weird to me that a song like SYT can be so popular for such a long time and then a totally different artist gets credited with a #1 single just for riding the wave of success the song was already having. That’s not shade towards Ari, I just don’t like artists getting credited with #1 singles in this way. Years from now, I doubt many people will remember she was even on this remix, much like most of these types of remixes. I think the featured artist should only be credited if 50% of the TOTAL chart points for the song’s life is because of the remix.

but, Ariana is the reason why SYT will be a #1 hit and Abel is the reason why SYT is a big (top 10) hit. [sorry for double posting]

[suzcruz7]

I just wanna say that I've seen plenty of people (including myself) complain about Shape of You, Girls Like You, and Perfect on the YouTube algorithm. Those songs have plenty of haters.

Anyway I'm kind of hoping no songs off that DJ Khaled album become hits. I Did It is alright tho.

[matt]

May 2, 2021 11:37:33 GMT -5 suzcruz7 said:

I just wanna say that I've seen plenty of people (including myself) complain about Shape of You, Girls Like You, and Perfect on the YouTube algorithm. Those songs have plenty of haters.

Anyway I'm kind of hoping no songs off that DJ Khaled album become hits. I Did It is alright tho.

I don't think any of the songs in it will become hits since they're performing horribly on Spotify. I Did It might stay on the Hot 100 for a few weeks (especially if it has a music video) but that's it. No high peak, will end up as another forgotten track despite the amount of big artists that are in it

[Enigma.]

Every Chance I Get is doing well on AM, because it features Lil Durk and Lil Baby, but that's the only song that'll go top 40 on Hot 100

[Groovy]

May 2, 2021 11:03:37 GMT -5 Enigma. said:

The highest DJ Khaled song is #54 on global Spotify

I'm not surprised by this, I saw the tracklist and nothing there stood out as it except for the Drake songs of course. 

[thegreatdivine]

May 2, 2021 11:31:06 GMT -5 Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ said:

May 1, 2021 23:59:25 GMT -5 thegreatdivine said:

What excuse? Take away the bulk of it's US YouTube streams and it has still moved 6-7M units in the US.

If there's anything fishy going on, that's entirely on YouTube. Don't they claim to have systems in place to detect streams by bots and fake/bought streams?

The only thing I can point to is that YouTube's algorithm favored Life Is Good for a time (like it's done with several other music videos in the past), but for some reason, people only have an issue when it's a rap video being favored. I couldn't escape Shape of You/Despacito on YouTube in 2017 because of vicious recommendations/autoplay and in 2018 the same thing happened with Perfect/Girls Like You, so much so that I turned off my autoplay and stopped using YouTube as much but not once did I see anyone on this site or anywhere else make any complaints.

I don't even care. Y'all have been on this since last year and I've discussed this very topic enough times to know I have nothing else to say on it.

I mean, there's a difference, SOY and Despacito are one of the biggest songs of all time, LIG is an average hit. Eligibility for diamond and falling out of the top 200 on YouTube, on the same day? This is not YouTube only, and I don't think it's Drake, he doesn't need that to have a diamond hit.

So, it's okay for the music videos of those songs to benefit from YouTube's algorithm because they're huge hits but not Life Is Good? Life Is Good is still one of the biggest hits of last year even without a bulk of it's YouTube streams. It's still one of the few songs released from last year to move over 6M units in the US without the bulk of it's YouTube streams so I'm really not following.

Look, left to me, autoplay/YouTube's algorithm recommending particular songs shouldn't be a thing. I'm never here for anything that unfairly favors one song over others, especially when it comes to streams but this thing has been going on since at least 2017 when I noticed it and YouTube has done nothing to resolve it so they're obviously okay with it. I complained about this on other forums back in 2017 and 2018 and by the end of that year, I'd disabled my autoplay and moved on. Sorry, but I won't be mad that yet another music video is benefitting from YouTube's algorithm. Another video will probably soon start doing massive YouTube numbers consistently, thanks (again) to the algorithm. YouTube clearly know what's going on. It's on them to fix that glitch (if it indeed a glitch and not something they're actively encouraging).

[thegreatdivine]

May 2, 2021 10:40:56 GMT -5 fridayteenage said:

May 2, 2021 9:42:42 GMT -5 HolidayGuy said:

It's bad enough that featurings have become so overdone in the last several years- but these tacking hot-of-the-moment acts onto "remixes"? Ugh. It happened every so often before streaming took off, but it's gotten too much in the last year.

Having said that, it's marketing, and even if it yields a chart-topping result for even a week, it's still a chart topper. Not a longevity chart topper for the featured act, if only credited for a week or so, but still.

I still remember the glorious time when Rihanna had Britney on S&M.

May 2, 2021 5:48:35 GMT -5 thegreatdivine said:

I'm guessing BTS fans have enough money saved up to have their next single remain at #1 for 10+ weeks via strictly digital sales if that's what it takes.

on digital songs, sure. on h100? i dunno.

I don't see why not. BTS fans have demonstrated again and again that they're some of the richest. Even those who aren't rich use up all the money they have in supporting them. Based on how Dynamite performed on digital sales, I'm definitely expecting even more support on the pure sales front with the new single, enough to keep the new single high on the Hot 100 for months.

[thegreatdivine]

I don't know why some people are surprised by DJ Khaled's album not having any hits apart from the singles with Drake he released last year. It's been that way with all his albums. He always releases the songs with the biggest hit potential before releasing the album and he never scores any legitimate hits following the release of the album.

2016: the biggest hit off his album, Major Key (For Free) dropped before the album itself.

2017: the biggest hits off his album, Grateful (I'm the One and Wild Thoughts) both dropped before the album itself.

2019: the biggest hit off the album, Father of Asahd (No Brainer) dropped several months before the album itself.

2021: the biggest hits off the album, Khaled Khaled (Popstar and Greece) both dropped before the album itself.

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May 2, 2021 12:36:12 GMT -5 thegreatdivine said:

May 2, 2021 11:31:06 GMT -5 Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ said:

I mean, there's a difference, SOY and Despacito are one of the biggest songs of all time, LIG is an average hit. Eligibility for diamond and falling out of the top 200 on YouTube, on the same day? This is not YouTube only, and I don't think it's Drake, he doesn't need that to have a diamond hit.

So, it's okay for the music videos of those songs to benefit from YouTube's algorithm because they're huge hits but not Life Is Good? Life Is Good is still one of the biggest hits of last year even without a bulk of it's YouTube streams. It's still one of the few songs released from last year to move over 6M units in the US without the bulk of it's YouTube streams so I'm really not following.

I don't think it's okay, I think it's understandable. People talked about SOY and Despacito, they were the top 2 songs in every country in 2017, so I understand the autoplay for those songs. It's like Dance Monkey for me, I can't stand the song, but when I see it on recommended, I'm like "okay, GTFO", but still know that most people listen to it and like it, and they won't change the song. but for Life Is Good, it's really really random.

I agree with the 2nd part of your reply tho.

[HolidayGuy]

With "34+35," Billboard never gave credit to the featured acts after it first hit No. 2, as that version wasn't responsible for the majority of activity thereafter.

For the all-time charts, one featured act get 30% of a track's week-to-week points. If more than one featured act, they split the 30% evenly. Thus, if featured acts are credited for just one week, the points are peanuts, even if it's No. 1. I also like how Record Research treats featuring credits, by not counting them among the featured act's hits, unless it makes sense to do so- for instance, an act with prominent vocals throughout the track and not just, say, the chorus.

[oliviafan101]

May 2, 2021 13:01:01 GMT -5 Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ said:

May 2, 2021 12:36:12 GMT -5 thegreatdivine said:

So, it's okay for the music videos of those songs to benefit from YouTube's algorithm because they're huge hits but not Life Is Good? Life Is Good is still one of the biggest hits of last year even without a bulk of it's YouTube streams. It's still one of the few songs released from last year to move over 6M units in the US without the bulk of it's YouTube streams so I'm really not following.

I don't think it's okay, I think it's understandable. People talked about SOY and Despacito, they were the top 2 songs in every country in 2017, so I understand the autoplay for those songs. It's like Dance Monkey for me, I can't stand the song, but when I see it on recommended, I'm like "okay, GTFO", but still know that most people listen to it and like it, and they won't change the song. but for Life Is Good, it's really really random.

I agree with the 2nd part of your reply tho.

May I add, Dance Monkey almost has 2.2 Billion Streams on Spotify while LIG has 732 million streams on Spotify.

[degen]

The lines get kind of blurred with radio airplay too. There’s no way to detect if radio is playing the original version or the remix version. But the labels usually ask Mediabase to credit the remix version even if it’s not the one being played.

[ontopofthis]

May 2, 2021 13:18:02 GMT -5 oliviafan101 said:

May 2, 2021 13:01:01 GMT -5 Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ said:

I don't think it's okay, I think it's understandable. People talked about SOY and Despacito, they were the top 2 songs in every country in 2017, so I understand the autoplay for those songs. It's like Dance Monkey for me, I can't stand the song, but when I see it on recommended, I'm like "okay, GTFO", but still know that most people listen to it and like it, and they won't change the song. but for Life Is Good, it's really really random.

I agree with the 2nd part of your reply tho.

May I add, Dance Monkey almost has 2.2 Billion Streams on Spotify while LIG has 732 million streams on Spotify.

Is Spotify the only streaming service, and aren’t the majority of the streams for Life Is Good American?

[garrettlen]

May 2, 2021 13:17:43 GMT -5 HolidayGuy said:

With "34+35," Billboard never gave credit to the featured acts after it first hit No. 2, as that version wasn't responsible for the majority of activity thereafter.

For the all-time charts, one featured act get 30% of a track's week-to-week points. If more than one featured act, they split the 30% evenly. Thus, if featured acts are credited for just one week, the points are peanuts, even if it's No. 1. I also like how Record Research treats featuring credits, by not counting them among the featured act's hits, unless it makes sense to do so- for instance, an act with prominent vocals throughout the track and not just, say, the chorus.

I don't believe Joel Whitburn at Record Research credits Britney with a #1 for her featuring on "S&M."

[leoapp]

I wonder, did Missy Elliot's remix on Katy Perry's Last Friday Night help the song hit no. 1? Or the original was strong enough on its own to hit no. 1?
It was like the easiest way for Missy to get her first no.1. Sadly she wasnt credited.

[Gary]

Just a line item in the Rihanna section

"shown for one week as a remix with Britney Spears"

[HolidayGuy]

I think the Missy E. version of "Last Friday Night" gave it the nudge to hit the top, though, apparently, was not responsible for the majority of the track's activity that week.

Makes sense for Record Research to not credit Spears with the No. 1 for "S&M." One featured act not credited in the latest edition of Top Pop Singles that should be- and Record Research said it will fix that with the next edition- is Bruno Mars on "Lighters."

Obviously, featured acts on tracks in which a DJ has lead credit should be credited for the track on which they perform vocals. Record Research lists those as "With," as they do for other tracks that justify a "With" credit rather than "Featuring"- think "Me Against the Music," "4 Minutes" and "the Glee version of "Physical," as a few examples. I also would expect RR to list "Levitating" (the one that peaked on Bubbling Under) with Madonna's entries, as it's practically a duet- for all the 2 points that version earned.

[meg]

[thegreatdivine]

The Weeknd has a new album completed. 



Link to full article here.

[kiddo1994]

Billboard is so incosistent with their rules

[fridayteenage]

It's a lil sad that so far the highest digital sales this year are: dynamite 45k, dynamite 43k.
Though the same artist will likely get more than that for several weeks.

Main person I can think of who would challenge those numbers is Adele, if she ever feels like releasing.

[iwin]

May 3, 2021 11:03:10 GMT -5 fridayteenage said:

It's a lil sad that so far the highest digital sales this year are: dynamite 45k, dynamite 43k.
Though the same artist will likely get more than that for several weeks.

Main person I can think of who would challenge those numbers is Adele, if she ever feels like releasing.

I wonder what highest non bts sales was last year as well as this year?

[dremolus - solarpunk]

US Spotify - 05/02/21

1(=) Polo G - RAPSTAR 1,570,122 (-201,542)
2(=) Doja Cat - Kiss Me More 1,557,428 (-210,279)
3(=) Lil Nas X - MONTERO (Call Me By Your Name) 1,267,738 (-176,861)
4(+1) Justin Bieber - Peaches 1,169,238 (-174,027)
5(-1) Billie Eilish - Your Power 1,162,948 (-186,447)
6(=) Dua Lipa - Levitating 1,118,360 (-165,720)
7(=) Olivia Rodrigo - deja vu 896,652 (-99,188)
8(=) Masked Wolf - Astronaut In The Ocean 846,271 (-128,359)
9(=) Bruno Mars, Anderson .Paak, Silk Sonic - Leave the Door Open 744,106 (-99,726)
10(+2) Giveon - Heartbreak Anniversary 725,981 (-74,301)

Others:
11(-1) Cardi B - Up 711,117 (-115,522)
12(-1) The Weeknd - Save Your Tears Remix 692,076 (-124,129)
13(=) Glass Animals - Heat Waves 678,252 (-84,787)
14(+2) Lil Tjay, 6LACK - Calling My Phone 639,128 (-65,211)
15(-1) Drake - Wants and Needs 628,621 (-96,375)
16(-1) Saweetie - Best Friend 611,635 (-98,008)
17(=) Kali Uchis - telepatía 607,249 (-63,678)
18(+1) Doja Cat - Streets 595,743 (-60,611)
19(+2) Olivia Rodrigo - drivers license 589,738 (-53,066)
20(+2) SZA - Good Days 583,090 (-51,139)
21(-3) Young Stoner Life, Young Thug, Gunna - Solid 565,123 (-94,427)
23(-3) The Kid LAROI - WITHOUT YOU Remix 540,339 (-111,772)
24(+3) DJ Khaled - I DID IT 521,343 (-23,642)
26(=) Pooh Shiesty - Back in Blood 505,325 (-64,244)
27(+7) Baby Keem - durag activity 481,905 (-440)
29(-1) Drake - What's Next 468,987 (-71,068)
30(-5) DJ Khaled - EVERY CHANCE I GET 467,633 (-104,799)
31(-1) Lil Tjay - Headshot 456,421 (-58,007)
32(=) Maroon 5 - Beautiful Mistakes 445,237 (-54,112)
34(-3) Justin Bieber - Hold On 438,792 (-68,006)
35(-2) Travis Scott, HVME - Goosebumps 430,800 (-67,470)
36(=) Machine Gun Kelly - my ex's best friend 429,563 (-49,974)
37(+2) The Weeknd - Save Your Tears 411,085 (-41,706)
38(=) Joyner Lucas, Lil Baby - Ramen & OJ 397,028 (-59,593)
40(+5) AURORA - Runaway 384,148 (-28,352)
42(-5) Machine Gun Kelly, Sleeping With Sirens - love race 382,874 (-92,232)
43(-2) Lil Tjay - Run It Up 380,088 (-51,368)
46(=) Los Legendarios, Wisin, Jhay Cortez - Fiel 358,049 (-53,220)
47(=) Young Stoner Life, Young Thug, Gunna - Ski 350,736 (-53,771)
49(+1) Kevin Gates - Big Gangsta 345,611 (-44,747)
50(+10) Luke Combs - Forever After All 345,552 (-28,245)
53(+4) Cico P - Tampa 342,873 (-32,338)
55(-4) 42 Dugg - 4 Da Gang 338,344 (-51,388)
58(+4) The Kid LAROI - WITHOUT YOU 333,535 (-34,457)
60(-16) Lil Baby - On Me Remix 330,831 (-82,738)
65(-4) Gera MX, Christian Nodal - Botella Tras Botella 318,565 (-50,469)
68(-1) SpotemGottem - Beat Box 3 309,091 (-39,351)
69(+5) Duncan Laurence - Arcade 308,946 (-23,715)
74(+9) Beach Bunny - Cloud 9 300,742 (-14,266)
75(-7) Dua Lipa - We're Good 298,422 (-47,632)
76(-27) DJ Khaled - LET IT GO 298,232 (-92,424)
77(-7) Tiësto - The Business 297,517 (-46,169)
82(=) Rod Wave - Richer 284,856 (-30,343)
85(+19) Surf Curse - Freaks 281,768 (-7,047)
86(+13) Gabby Barrett - The Good Ones 278,851 (-17,116)
87(+55) 21 Savage - Spiral 278,244 (+32,564)
94(+7) NLE Choppa - Final Warning 270,252 (-23,253)
95(-3) Lil Baby - On Me 268,476 (-30,845)
100(-6) Bad Bunny, ROSALÍA - LA NOCHE DE ANOCHE 262,755 (-35,106)

102(-11) MoneyBagg Yo - Time Today 261,804 (-38,807)
103(+8) StarBoi3 - Dick 261,693 (-12,134)
108(-18) Twenty One Pilots - Shy Away 255,482 (-46,690)
116(-35) DJ Khaled - SORRY NOT SORRY 241,966 (-75,086)
118(+1) Mooski - Track Star 240,442 (-23,086)
119(-43) Twenty One Pilots - Choker 239,650 (-90,398)
130(-14) Regard, Troye Sivan, Tate McRae - You 229,493 (-37,834)
132(+5) Ashnikko Princess Nokia - Slumber Party 227,677 (-21,690)
134(-9) H.E.R. - Come Through 227,100 (-31,996)
139(-7) Nelly, Florida Georgia Line - Lil Bit 221,497 (-32,739)
140(-22) Thomas Rhett - Country Again 221,163 (-44,389)
148(-15) MoneyBagg Yo - Shottas (Lala) 218,163 (-35,585)
150(-36) Riton, Nightcrawlers - Friday 217,933 (-52,162)
151(-13) 24kGoldn - Company 217,137 (-32,142)
165(+11) MARINA - Bubblegum Bitch 211,975 (-14,868)
181(+4) Jake Owen - Made for You 205,183 (-17,700)
188(-6) Rod Wave - Street Runner 202,491 (-21,873)
190(-3) Ryan Hurd - Chasing After You 201,979 (-19,134)
195(-11) Rod Wave - Tombstone 199,206 (-23,981)
197(debut) Chris Stapleton - You Should Probably Leave 197,605

Total Streams for Save Your Tears: 1,103,161
Total Streams for WITHOUT YOU: 873,874
Total Streams for On Me: 599,307