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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Jun 4, 2021 17:24:48 GMT -5
Friday, June 4, 2021
Taylor Swift vaults to top of the HITS Top 50 behind record-breaking vinyl sales and strategic digital versions of her latest original album, evermore (Republic). Swift moved around 100k vinyl units of evermore this week—the biggest one-week vinyl sales total in the modern era, crushing Jack White’s previous record of 40k for 2014’s Lazaretto. On top of that, Tay added four “digitally signed” albums, with three new options for cover art, to her webstore midweek; the push in pure sales, which totaled 178.7k, lifted evermore to 187.8k units, outpacing phenom of the moment Olivia Rodrigo.
This marks evermore’s fourth non-consecutive week at #1. Since folklore dropped in July 2020, Swift has spent 13 weeks at #1 with three different titles: folklore, evermore and Fearless (Taylor’s Version).
Rodrido’s SOUR (Geffen/Interscope), which became the year’s biggest debut last week, moves to #2 with 183.5k. Behind her latest smash, “good 4 u,” along with unprecedented streaming numbers, SOUR is now the second-biggest album of the year in total activity (915k), only trailing Morgan Wallen’s Dangerous: The Double Album (Big Loud/Republic). SOUR led the week in streams with more than 200m.
Def Jam’s DMX lands the top debut with the posthumous album EXODUS, which enters the chart at #8 with 32k. Juice WRLD’s Goodbye & Good Riddance (Grade A/Interscope) moves back inside the Top 10 behind a special three-year anniversary re-release with two new tracks.
Streeting this week are a collaborative album from Lil Baby & Lil Durk (Quality Control/Alamo/Motown), the 20th anniversary edition of Alicia Keys’ Songs in A Minor (RCA) and a new album from Big Machine’s Brett Young.
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Post by ificanthaveyou on Jun 4, 2021 17:39:16 GMT -5
Evermore also is selling well at iTunes and such, thanks to the $6.99 sale. So it's not just the vinyl. ;) Lol you may have been right with this! Those iTunes sales may have put her over the edge this time, and been the difference between #1 and #2. Ha to all the people who were telling you iTunes sales didn’t matter.
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Post by Eloqueen™ on Jun 4, 2021 17:51:05 GMT -5
I still think Olivia will take it, as numbers typically change with Billboard, but that figure shift was unexpected. Wow.
I don't really get the cries of unfair this or that in terms of sales when it comes to BTS, Taylor Swift or the like. Yeah, they have rabid fanbases, so because they have more devoted fanbases than the average artist the sales of their albums/singles shouldn't count? You think Olivia isn't building up the same rabid fanbase currently or doesn't even likely have it already? lol You think these rabid fans don't stream the hell out of their favorite artists too? Chart placement is a numbers game. You place accordingly. "Deserve this, deserve that" seems moot. Never understood that, especially when people try to discredit actual album sales in favor of single "streams" padding SPS.
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Jun 4, 2021 17:57:22 GMT -5
^I would say that Olivia's fans and her team haven't yet learned how to play the charts. But they will, in time.
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Post by kimberly on Jun 4, 2021 18:14:44 GMT -5
I still think Olivia will take it, as numbers typically change with Billboard, but that figure shift was unexpected. Wow. I don't really get the cries of unfair this or that in terms of sales when it comes to BTS, Taylor Swift or the like. Yeah, they have rabid fanbases, so because they have more devoted fanbases than the average artist the sales of their albums/singles shouldn't count? You think Olivia isn't building up the same rabid fanbase currently or doesn't even likely have it already? lol You think these rabid fans don't stream the hell out of their favorite artists too? Chart placement is a numbers game. You place accordingly. "Deserve this, deserve that" seems moot. Never understood that, especially when people try to discredit actual album sales in favor of single "streams" padding SPS. simple: song streams "padding" an album's popularity happened this week. I wonder what % of evermore's sales really happened this week. less than half for sure. I don't know how calling them "actual" album sales is supposed to make them any more relevant than streaming in terms of measuring popularity. take your Taylor Swift stan glasses off for a second. if you still can't see how this current rule is causing an extremely inaccurate representation of what's popular in the last week, I don't really have anything else to tell you. anyways, Swifties better get to streaming because folklore and evermore are the only albums in the Top 50 to move less than 10k streaming units. ^I would say that Olivia's fans and her team haven't yet learned how to play the charts. But they will, in time. the year is 2026... Olivia Rodrigo releases "good 4 u" (dancing like a sociopath born in the 2000's remix) and finally ships SOUR vinyl orders. first album to sell 1 million vinyl copies in one week—biggest vinyl week of all time. SOUR returns to No. 1 and blocks Kid Laroi's album. world peace is restored for once.
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Post by neverduplicated on Jun 4, 2021 19:02:28 GMT -5
Before anyone gets too outraged over this delayed vinyl issue, you should also consider that there have been numerous articles about how there is a massive delay in vinyl production. There isn't enough production capacity for the demand, and so labels are having to wait months to get their albums pressed. Considering evermore was released practically the instant it was finished, it might not have been possible to release the vinyl much sooner, and I'm sure they wanted to print enough to make sure people who want the vinyl in future weeks will have some available to purchase. This wasn't Taylor or her label gaming the system, they literally could not release vinyls when the album was released.
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Post by kimberly on Jun 4, 2021 19:16:13 GMT -5
Before anyone gets too outraged over this delayed vinyl issue, you should also consider that there have been numerous articles about how there is a massive delay in vinyl production. There isn't enough production capacity for the demand, and so labels are having to wait months to get their albums pressed. Considering evermore was released practically the instant it was finished, it might not have been possible to release the vinyl much sooner, and I'm sure they wanted to print enough to make sure people who want the vinyl in future weeks will have some available to purchase. This wasn't Taylor or her label gaming the system, they literally could not release vinyls when the album was released. the delayed tallying of vinyl sales part is Billboard's fault, not Taylor's. the pathetic last minute discount, "digitally autographed" release, and "willow" remix are on Taylor & her team. it's a combination of both that makes it an undeserving No. 1 this week. (though to be fair, had anyone else been this close to returning to No. 1, they might have tried similar gimmicks.) poor Olivia getting caught in the middle of Billboard's tomfoolery. it never really made sense to me why they would base album units on shipments rather than orders. even physical copies come with digital download links now. they could have eliminated bundling without creating this inaccuracy on the charts.
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Post by jodakyellow on Jun 4, 2021 19:40:58 GMT -5
Looks like Olivia will hit 1 million SPS next week!
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Post by Mathgeek on Jun 4, 2021 20:00:01 GMT -5
^I would say that Olivia's fans and her team haven't yet learned how to play the charts. But they will, in time. I’m so confused by this. Olivia is with Interscope/Geffen. There’s probably and more than likely a great deal of overlap between her fans and other artists. You really think they don’t know how to play the charts game? At best, I think they wildly underestimated Taylor’s ability to get fans to buy last minute signed digital albums for $4.99 in 4 variations which she promoted across most social media. As for G4U, they released it a week early probably also fully understanding what Army would do with Butter…not to mention that Geffen has a new partnership with BTS’ label. Maybe they chose not to push beyond what they did? Week 1, they discounted G4U on iTunes but not on her website. I don’t get their strategies but it’s definitely not that they don’t know how to play the charts game.
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Post by KeepDeanWeird on Jun 4, 2021 20:08:38 GMT -5
Is there an accurate estimate of Evermore's overall sales?
I'm not sure HITS 100K estimate for vinyl is right. That would mean 78K for iTunes/CDs - that seems unusually high.
The vinyl production issues have been well documented. Considering Evermore crushed those records, I doubt 100K+ could be produced in, say, a 2-month window. Vinyl is a pricey product - it's not a $.69 single. And even the $6.99 for the digital version makes far more coin for the label than a single. Taylor is a commercial juggernaut!
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Post by kanimal on Jun 4, 2021 20:15:13 GMT -5
Is there an accurate estimate of Evermore's overall sales? I'm not sure HITS 100K estimate for vinyl is right. That would mean 78K for iTunes/CDs - that seems unusually high. The vinyl production issues have been well documented. Considering Evermore crushed those records, I doubt 100K+ could be produced in, say, a 2-month window. Vinyl is a pricey product - it's not a $.69 single. And even the $6.99 for the digital version makes far more coin for the label than a single. Taylor is a commercial juggernaut! The sales projection was 130K at mid-week -- and at the time, many people thought Hits might have been underestimating the CD performance. Then, you not only had the iTunes discount and other retail sales but four "digitally signed" versions of the album on her website for $4.99 each on Thursday. The idea of five or even ten thousand fans buying all four iterations doesn't seem that unreasonable.
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Post by fridayteenage on Jun 4, 2021 20:35:27 GMT -5
if bb200 concurs, then taylor would be the second artist with 7 4-week #1s. After Beatles.
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Post by Eloqueen™ on Jun 4, 2021 21:33:36 GMT -5
. take your Taylor Swift stan glasses off for a second. Yeah, we can leave attitude out of the argument. I said "actual sales" because I was referring to purchased albums (and there is a difference for me personally between purchasing an album for $13 or how much ever and streaming a single for free to pad the album's total, if people feel different that's fine, agree to disagree). Was a very direct statement. My feelings on this also extend far beyond Taylor and always has. I never said anything about something being an inaccurate or accurate representation of the chart. I said the chart is a numbers game, which it is. Simple as that. Anyone who has followed the Billboard 200 and Hot 100 for long knows there have been ways for labels to manipulate the system/numbers to benefit their artists forever now. These charts have never been a 100% accurate ranking of the country's most popular songs or albums in this respect. Is this supposed to be unsettling? lol Wait you were the one who argued endlessly with me about Evermore being able to pull 50k plus weeks due to signed copies that could have padded its total like with Folklore? I knew I remembered that name. Lol
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Post by kimberly on Jun 4, 2021 22:20:10 GMT -5
. take your Taylor Swift stan glasses off for a second. Yeah, we can leave attitude out of the argument. not going to argue with you about what she "could have" done to maximize evermore's sales again and whether it "could have" matched folklore but it's so funny how dramatic you act and how pointed your original post was talking about "the cries of unfair this or that" and "Deserve this, deserve that' seems moot" but you go back to "leave the attitude out" when someone gives a logically laid out, inoffensive response. miss me with that bs. I am aware that the charts are a numbers game. as far as I can recall, this is the first instance that a backlog of shipments is carrying an old album with no streaming, radio, or song sales presence all the way to number one. let us chart geeks discuss that in peace.
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Post by Eloqueen™ on Jun 4, 2021 22:40:03 GMT -5
Yeah, we can leave attitude out of the argument. not going to argue with you about what she "could have" done to maximize evermore's sales again and whether it "could have" matched folklore but it's so funny how dramatic you act and how pointed your original post was talking about "the cries of unfair this or that" and "Deserve this, deserve that' seems moot" but you go back to "leave the attitude out" when someone gives a logically laid out, inoffensive response. miss me with that bs. I genuinely lol'd. I never expected you to. Particularly if the numbers don't fall in the favor of your argument. Either way, tbh I don't really care. My initial post didn't target anyone specifically with attitude. I was speaking generally and of an idea people claiming it is unfair for an album or song to top the chart because it isn't bought by who they consider to be the right people. It was you who targeted me specifically with attitude with that default, tired, lame, go-to "stan" argument. Yeah, no one's keeping you from discussing anything. As you were Kimberly.
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Post by kimberly on Jun 4, 2021 23:35:19 GMT -5
not going to argue with you about what she "could have" done to maximize evermore's sales again and whether it "could have" matched folklore but it's so funny how dramatic you act and how pointed your original post was talking about "the cries of unfair this or that" and "Deserve this, deserve that' seems moot" but you go back to "leave the attitude out" when someone gives a logically laid out, inoffensive response. miss me with that bs. I genuinely lol'd. I never expected you to. Particularly if the numbers don't fall in the favor of your argument. Either way, tbh I don't really care. sounds like you care a lot, let's circle back to this when evermore falls 1-74 next week
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Post by fridayteenage on Jun 5, 2021 0:27:13 GMT -5
Is this supposed to be unsettling? lol Wait you were the one who argued endlessly with me about Evermore being able to pull 50k plus weeks due to signed copies that could have padded its total like with Folklore? I knew I remembered that name. Lol Looks like Folklore and Evermore combined have sold about 2 million copies in the US now. Poor Her! But okay, I'm sure the label is panicked about how they "moved less than 10k streaming units" this week.
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Post by shayonce on Jun 5, 2021 1:06:01 GMT -5
I've always found it hilarious how she manages to mask these blatant desperate attempts at securing better chart positions as moments for fans. this and this and this. she's one of or most chart savvy /obsessed artist yet still able to spin it as "pure fan event" and her fans are in denial so much.. cult mind and manipulation.
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Post by Enigma. on Jun 5, 2021 1:13:05 GMT -5
Dayum Taylor! Shame the vinyl wasn't ready for shipments when Morgan Wallen had his run lol
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hitsdailydouble.com/sales_plus_streaming LW | TW | Artist | Title | Label | Total | Change | Albums | TEA | SEA | -- | 1 | TAYLOR SWIFT | EVERMORE | REPUBLIC | 187,824 | -- | 178,711 | 182 | 8,931 | 1 | 2 | OLIVIA RODRIGO | SOUR | GEFFEN | 183,539 | -36% | 23,409 | 2,917 | 157,212 | 2 | 3 | J. COLE | THE OFF-SEASON | DREAMVILLE/ROC NATION/INTERSCOPE | 60,456 | -35% | 1,611 | 530 | 58,315 | 4 | 4 | MORGAN WALLEN | DANGEROUS: THE DOUBLE ALBUM | BIG LOUD/REPUBLIC | 52,392 | 0% | 2,283 | 892 | 49,216 | 5 | 5 | MONEYBAGG YO | A GANGSTA'S PAIN | CMG/N-LESS/INTERSCOPE | 42,284 | -18% | 166 | 294 | 41,824 | 8 | 6 | DUA LIPA | FUTURE NOSTALGIA | WARNER | 32,749 | 3% | 1,297 | 1,700 | 29,752 | 32 | 7 | JUICE WRLD | GOODBYE & GOOD RIDDANCE | GRADE A/INTERSCOPE | 32,210 | 87% | 867 | 365 | 30,978 | -- | 8 | DMX | EXODUS | DEF JAM | 32,168 | -- | 14,332 | 965 | 16,872 | 12 | 9 | LUKE COMBS | WHAT YOU SEE IS WHAT YOU GET | RIVER HOUSE/COLUMBIA NASHVILLE | 29,640 | 10% | 1,775 | 1,098 | 26,768 | 9 | 10 | JUSTIN BIEBER | JUSTICE | RBMG/DEF JAM | 29,487 | -1% | 1,077 | 1,077 | 27,334 | 11 | 11 | THE WEEKND | AFTER HOURS | XO/REPUBLIC | 29,264 | 7% | 1,328 | 1,584 | 26,352 | 10 | 12 | POP SMOKE | SHOOT FOR THE STARS AIM FOR THE MOON | VICTOR VICTOR/REPUBLIC | 27,756 | -5% | 205 | 290 | 27,260 | 6 | 13 | POOH SHIESTY | SHIESTY SEASON | ATLANTIC | 25,598 | -31% | 58 | 144 | 25,396 | 16 | 14 | DJ KHALED | KHALED KHALED | WE THE BEST/EPIC | 23,768 | -5% | 387 | 622 | 22,758 | 19 | 15 | LIL BABY | MY TURN | QUALITY CONTROL/MOTOWN/CAPITOL | 22,959 | 5% | 176 | 137 | 22,646 | 7 | 16 | 42 DUGG | FREE DEM BOYZ | CMG/INTERSCOPE | 22,902 | -28% | 154 | 261 | 22,487 | 15 | 17 | ROD WAVE | SOULFLY | ALAMO/GEFFEN/INTERSCOPE | 22,771 | -11% | 83 | 111 | 22,578 | 21 | 18 | POST MALONE | HOLLYWOOD'S BLEEDING | REPUBLIC | 21,406 | 6% | 295 | 325 | 20,786 | 20 | 19 | JUICE WRLD | LEGENDS NEVER DIE | GRADE A/INTERSCOPE | 21,234 | 2% | 823 | 128 | 20,283 | 17 | 20 | YOUNG STONER LIFE, YOUNG THUG & GUNNA | SLIME LANGUAGE 2 | YOUNG STONER LIFE/ATLANTIC | 20,631 | -14% | 34 | 176 | 20,421 | 25 | 21 | QUEEN | GREATEST HITS 1 | HOLLYWOOD | 20,413 | 10% | 4,351 | 739 | 15,324 | 3 | 22 | TWENTY ONE PILOTS | SCALED AND ICY | FUELED BY RAMEN | 19,617 | -73% | 7,330 | 210 | 12,077 | 29 | 23 | MACHINE GUN KELLY | TICKETS TO MY DOWNFALL | BAD BOY/INTERSCOPE | 18,532 | 6% | 1,356 | 450 | 16,727 | 24 | 24 | THE KID LAROI | F*CK LOVE | COLUMBIA | 18,497 | -1% | 85 | 541 | 17,871 | 30 | 25 | THE WEEKND | THE HIGHLIGHTS | XO/REPUBLIC | 18,346 | 6% | 1,310 | 306 | 16,729 | 33 | 26 | LUKE COMBS | THIS ONE'S FOR YOU | RIVER HOUSE/COLUMBIA NASHVILLE | 18,152 | 8% | 1,273 | 345 | 16,534 | 22 | 27 | HARRY STYLES | FINE LINE | COLUMBIA | 17,900 | -5% | 4,705 | 475 | 12,719 | 34 | 28 | GIVEON | WHEN IT'S ALL SAID AND DONE... TAKE TIME | NOT SO FAST/EPIC | 17,802 | 8% | 1,366 | 213 | 16,223 | 13 | 29 | NICKI MINAJ | BEAM ME UP SCOTTY | REPUBLIC | 17,635 | -33% | 198 | 351 | 17,086 | 23 | 30 | POLO G | THE GOAT | COLUMBIA | 17,634 | -6% | 111 | 109 | 17,414 | 27 | 31 | ARIANA GRANDE | POSITIONS | REPUBLIC | 17,466 | -3% | 2,084 | 272 | 15,111 | 26 | 32 | LIL TJAY | DESTINED 2 WIN | COLUMBIA | 17,133 | -7% | 7 | 173 | 16,953 | 42 | 33 | TAYLOR SWIFT | FOLKLORE | REPUBLIC | 16,343 | 12% | 6,328 | 112 | 9,903 | 35 | 34 | BAD BUNNY | EL ULTIMO TOUR DEL MUNDO | RIMAS | 16,221 | 0% | 131 | 142 | 15,948 | 28 | 35 | MEGAN THEE STALLION | GOOD NEWS | ATLANTIC | 16,138 | -9% | 1,167 | 263 | 14,708 | 46 | 36 | FLEETWOOD MAC | RUMOURS | WARNER | 15,859 | 17% | 3,068 | 412 | 12,379 | 38 | 37 | MORGAN WALLEN | IF I KNOW ME | BIG LOUD | 15,842 | 5% | 426 | 313 | 15,103 | 31 | 38 | LIL DURK | THE VOICE | ALAMO/GEFFEN/INTERSCOPE | 15,779 | -9% | 22 | 85 | 15,672 | 39 | 39 | EMINEM | MUSIC TO BE MURDERED BY | SHADY/AFTERMATH/INTERSCOPE | 15,770 | 5% | 838 | 838 | 14,095 | 43 | 40 | HAMILTON | ORIGINAL BROADWAY CAST | UPTOWN/ATLANTIC | 15,674 | 8% | 826 | 131 | 14,717 | 36 | 41 | BILLIE EILISH | WHEN WE ALL FALL ASLEEP, WHERE DO WE GO? | DARKROOM/INTERSCOPE | 15,651 | 0% | 3,274 | 194 | 12,183 | 37 | 42 | BAD BUNNY | YHLQMDLG | RIMAS | 15,591 | 1% | 116 | 67 | 15,409 | 50 | 43 | CREEDENCE CLEARWATER REVIVAL | CHRONICLE: THE 20 GREATEST HITS | FANTASY | 15,211 | 18% | 3,603 | 466 | 11,142 | -- | 44 | ELTON JOHN | DIAMONDS | ISLAND | 14,658 | -- | 1,811 | 584 | 12,264 | 48 | 45 | EMINEM | CURTAIN CALL | SHADY/AFTERMATH/INTERSCOPE | 14,024 | 4% | 1,063 | 418 | 12,543 | 47 | 46 | DOJA CAT | HOT PINK | KEMOSABE/RCA | 14,011 | 3% | 239 | 261 | 13,511 | -- | 47 | BOB MARLEY & THE WAILERS | LEGEND | TUFF GONG/ISLAND | 13,944 | -- | 3,596 | 331 | 10,018 | 49 | 48 | DRAKE | SCORPION | YMCMB/REPUBLIC | 13,573 | 3% | 116 | 93 | 13,364 | -- | 49 | POST MALONE | BEERBONGS & BENTLEYS | REPUBLIC | 13,287 | -- | 274 | 123 | 12,890 | -- | 50 | TRAVIS SCOTT | ASTROWORLD | CACTUS JACK/GRAND HUSTLE/EPIC | 13,175 | -- | 747 | 69 | 12,359 |
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Post by joesuda on Jun 5, 2021 5:06:01 GMT -5
I still think Olivia will take it, as numbers typically change with Billboard, but that figure shift was unexpected. Wow. I don't really get the cries of unfair this or that in terms of sales when it comes to BTS, Taylor Swift or the like. Yeah, they have rabid fanbases, so because they have more devoted fanbases than the average artist the sales of their albums/singles shouldn't count? You think Olivia isn't building up the same rabid fanbase currently or doesn't even likely have it already? lol You think these rabid fans don't stream the hell out of their favorite artists too? Chart placement is a numbers game. You place accordingly. "Deserve this, deserve that" seems moot. Never understood that, especially when people try to discredit actual album sales in favor of single "streams" padding SPS. simple: song streams "padding" an album's popularity happened this week. I wonder what % of evermore's sales really happened this week. less than half for sure. I don't know how calling them "actual" album sales is supposed to make them any more relevant than streaming in terms of measuring popularity. take your Taylor Swift stan glasses off for a second. if you still can't see how this current rule is causing an extremely inaccurate representation of what's popular in the last week, I don't really have anything else to tell you. anyways, Swifties better get to streaming because folklore and evermore are the only albums in the Top 50 to move less than 10k streaming units. ^I would say that Olivia's fans and her team haven't yet learned how to play the charts. But they will, in time. the year is 2026... Olivia Rodrigo releases "good 4 u" (dancing like a sociopath born in the 2000's remix) and finally ships SOUR vinyl orders. first album to sell 1 million vinyl copies in one week—biggest vinyl week of all time. SOUR returns to No. 1 and blocks Kid Laroi's album. world peace is restored for once. Based on your logic album preorders should not count for debut week as the sales did not happen that week... Billboard has created a loophole where you can maximise shipments, but the previous thing was even more worse. Many artists would put out a signed CD on Thursday to pad their numbers to get the #1 song or album and when the charts were out they canceled that CD and fans were the one who were being constantly fooled. The rule of counting the sales when they are shipped has made things better overall for the fans as there is less of merch made that will be cancelled. There are a few artists who can actually sell enough to make a difference with shipments, but there were a lot more artists who could pad their numbers with the promise of signed CDs so overall this rule is reasonable and good in my opinion.
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Post by mms82 on Jun 5, 2021 10:10:40 GMT -5
After this week how many pure sales does Evermore have? Could she cross 1,000,000 again?
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Post by strongerq on Jun 5, 2021 10:17:21 GMT -5
^ Based on oldbloke from Ukmix 'evermore' is sitting at 408k total pure as of last week + this week = 587k
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Post by neverduplicated on Jun 5, 2021 10:37:01 GMT -5
I think evermore can hit 1 million if Taylor wants it to, but without any additional push I'm not sure. I imagine weekly vinyl sales will be small but steady for some time. If she wants to hit 1 million she can keep selling signed CDs or repackage it a la the folklore long pond sessions. Her pure sales from releases in the past two years, using oldbloke's estimates (and adding on evermore and folklore's sales for this week per Hits):
Lover 1,306,000 folklore 1,413,000 evermore 587,000 Fearless TV 222,000
Total 3,528,000
In conclusion she is insane! Also LOL at the "Swifties better get to streaming," she is the most streamed female artist of this year and last year in the US and worldwide, I'm pretty sure Swifities are streaming. (FYI I have both my Swfitie glasses and my math glasses on).
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Post by ificanthaveyou on Jun 5, 2021 12:52:06 GMT -5
I think evermore can hit 1 million if Taylor wants it to, but without any additional push I'm not sure. I imagine weekly vinyl sales will be small but steady for some time. If she wants to hit 1 million she can keep selling signed CDs or repackage it a la the folklore long pond sessions. Her pure sales from releases in the past two years, using oldbloke's estimates (and adding on evermore and folklore's sales for this week per Hits): Lover 1,306,000 folklore 1,413,000 evermore 587,000 Fearless TV 222,000 Total 3,528,000 In conclusion she is insane! Also LOL at the "Swifties better get to streaming," she is the most streamed female artist of this year and last year in the US and worldwide, I'm pretty sure Swifities are streaming. (FYI I have both my Swfitie glasses and my math glasses on). It’s tough with evermore in particular because it truly is such a Winter-themed album, I find myself struggling to stream it as we approach Summer. I’m sure I’ll start streaming again once Fall/Winter hit in a few months.
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Post by Choco on Jun 5, 2021 13:03:14 GMT -5
Is there any gimmick left to exploit for evermore? Outside of orders shipped it ain't really what I'd call a currently popular album so unless her teams starts doing some McDonalds bundles I can't see it shifting over 400k more anytime soon. It's already probably going to crater next week into it's 10k usual range.
Taylor knows how to play the game. Any other week I'd have been fine with her #1 finish but rules are hurting the year's biggest breakout act to actually rule the charts in the same way she's ruling the conversation. It's cool that Olivia is showing good legs without the gimmicks though and it will probably move more copies overall in the end anyways.
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Post by Eloqueen™ on Jun 5, 2021 13:33:04 GMT -5
I think evermore can hit 1 million if Taylor wants it to, but without any additional push I'm not sure. I imagine weekly vinyl sales will be small but steady for some time. If she wants to hit 1 million she can keep selling signed CDs or repackage it a la the folklore long pond sessions. Her pure sales from releases in the past two years, using oldbloke's estimates (and adding on evermore and folklore's sales for this week per Hits): Lover 1,306,000 folklore 1,413,000 evermore 587,000 Fearless TV 222,000 Total 3,528,000 In conclusion she is insane! Also LOL at the "Swifties better get to streaming," she is the most streamed female artist of this year and last year in the US and worldwide, I'm pretty sure Swifities are streaming. (FYI I have both my Swfitie glasses and my math glasses on). It’s tough with evermore in particular because it truly is such a Winter-themed album, I find myself struggling to stream it as we approach Summer. I’m sure I’ll start streaming again once Fall/Winter hit in a few months. Yeah and Evermore had *one single* and (Grammy performance aside, if you could consider a short snippet of "Willow" promo) almost no promotion. I don't know why people are acting as if it speaks poorly of the album's performance because it isn't currently in the top 50 or whatever 6-7 months later when it has nothing to carry it. lol On top of this: Thanks to oldbloke @ UKMix:
BILLBOARD YEAR WEEK 29: BB200 Rank Estimated EAS TITLE Artist 1 1,837,000 DANGEROUS: THE DOUBLE ALBUM Morgan Wallen 2 1,208,000 SHOOT FOR THE STARS AIM FOR THE MOON Pop Smoke 3 1,093,000 EVERMORE Taylor Swift 4 1,091,000 POSITIONS Ariana Grande 5 903,000 WHAT YOU SEE IS WHAT YOU GET Luke Combs 6 830,000 LEGENDS NEVER DIE Juice WRLD 7 825,000 MY TURN Lil Baby 8 821,000 FOLKLORE Taylor Swift 9 782,000 GOOD NEWS Megan Thee Stallion 10 774,000 EL ULTIMO TOUR DEL MUNDO Bad Bunny I mean one can try to insinuate Taylor or Evermore are doing poorly, but it comes across as foolishness to me. lol
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WolfSpear
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Post by WolfSpear on Jun 5, 2021 14:29:10 GMT -5
I wasn’t expecting that 😳
That last minute deal reeled her back to the top.
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HolidayGuy
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Post by HolidayGuy on Jun 6, 2021 9:38:24 GMT -5
iican'thaveyou- could be. :) Amazon also had the album on sale for $6.99, so digital, in general.
At this point, there's always going top be something for people to complain about, if it's not related to streaming, because, as it's what's driving music charts nowadays, anything other than streaming driving a title up the chart is blasphemy. Every act - and fanbase- has the ability to do what they choose, within the rules; it's just that the results will vary, depending on the act's popularity at the moment and devotion of the fanbase.
No matter what Billboard allows or doesn't allow, something else will pop up in the charts game that some will find a "questionable" practice.
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jodakyellow
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Post by jodakyellow on Jun 6, 2021 10:35:43 GMT -5
The only questionable practice is people liking music that I don’t like
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