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Post by thirddegree50123 on Jun 12, 2021 16:53:43 GMT -5
I find this insanely boring
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Jun 12, 2021 17:51:22 GMT -5
I find this insanely boring yea I really don't understand the hoopla.
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Post by fearlessarrow on Jun 13, 2021 3:15:56 GMT -5
The song takes a bit to really kick into gear, but after multiple listens, I can say that I actually like this! I'm also pleasantly surprised by her Spotify numbers, I didn't imagine Lorde to be one to come out with big numbers out of the gate like that, but then again I forgot "Green Light" did do well out of the gate.
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Post by Juan Carlos on Jun 13, 2021 7:07:32 GMT -5
MOCK UPDATE:
ALTERNATIVE: ?? ?? LORDE Solar Power 87 0 87 0.347
+31 Spins +31 Bullet +0.079 Audience
Spincrease: 105 spins from 35 stations
TRIPLE A: ?? ?? LORDE Solar Power 24 0 24 0.075
+11 Spins +11 Bullet +0.024 Audience
Spincrease: 29 spins from 13 stations
POP: ?? ?? LORDE Solar Power 2 0 2 0.027
HOT AC: ?? ?? LORDE Solar Power 6 0 6 0.036
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Post by No Brake$ on Jun 13, 2021 7:18:07 GMT -5
As a Lorde fan, someone who considers Pure Heroine as one of the best albums of the past 20 years, we need to be realistic that this first 48 hours of spin totals are borderline a complete disaster.
Someone who should be at her stature should be seeing 100x amount of spins already out of the gate on Hot AC/Pop, the reason for this is one would assume they have moved on or her record company is thinking there is no reason to attempt to even head there. So that means, focus should be on Alt, we all know, this is not an Alt song, yes curiosity spins (much like Green Light got out of the gate years ago at those formats) will happen on Alternative, but this start, about 3 spins on average a day at 30 stations is weak. So what about AAA? This song won’t cut it there.
So where exactly is Lorde fitting in?
I’m sorry, we are in denial, this is looking to be a complete mess. I could be completely wrong, but Jack Antonoff, extremely talented, is not exactly churning out hits anymore outside of AAA, which Lorde will be lucky to even get a spins.
I’m worried.
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Post by Juan Carlos on Jun 13, 2021 7:47:03 GMT -5
Are you aware that the track was brought forward to June 10 at 6pm. ET (almost three days ago) because it was slated to be out next week (June 21 at 1pm. ET) instead?
Personally, the fact that her team could handle everything (aside that it was briefly released before the newly planned time, of course) to control a possible leak was great and it's even better that it pulled these types of numbers on Spotify on its release date as well. Also, it's false that "Green Light" got curiosity spins when it came out because it got an iHeartMedia deal at Pop, Hot AC and Alternative, which this didn't. That said, there isn't anything to worry about yet and just wait to see how the plan goes in terms of radio.
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Jun 13, 2021 8:28:31 GMT -5
It’s probably not going to be a hit but it’s unfortunate so many people aren’t liking the song. If this were a pop banger a la 1989-era Taylor, it would be beloved. I appreciate the song for its buildup and it’s subtly. There’s not a lot to it but it’s still so relaxed and chill while still being summery. It’s different enough to be interesting but not too different that it’s forced or obnoxious. I welcome the variety it brings to the table - too bad the table isn’t welcoming.
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Post by No Brake$ on Jun 13, 2021 8:50:32 GMT -5
It’s probably not going to be a hit but it’s unfortunate so many people aren’t liking the song. If this were a pop banger a la 1989-era Taylor, it would be beloved. I appreciate the song for its buildup and it’s subtly. There’s not a lot to it but it’s still so relaxed and chill while still being summery. It’s different enough to be interesting but not too different that it’s forced or obnoxious. I welcome the variety it brings to the table - too bad the table isn’t welcoming. Relaxed and Chill? That’s called an album track my friend. She’s been away for what, 4 years? Hearing a lot of “it’s a grower” and we know what that means…
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Jun 13, 2021 8:56:27 GMT -5
It’s probably not going to be a hit but it’s unfortunate so many people aren’t liking the song. If this were a pop banger a la 1989-era Taylor, it would be beloved. I appreciate the song for its buildup and it’s subtly. There’s not a lot to it but it’s still so relaxed and chill while still being summery. It’s different enough to be interesting but not too different that it’s forced or obnoxious. I welcome the variety it brings to the table - too bad the table isn’t welcoming. Relaxed and Chill? That’s called an album track my friend. She’s been away for what, 4 years? Hearing a lot of “it’s a grower” and we know what that means… So album tracks are automatically bad?
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Post by No Brake$ on Jun 13, 2021 8:59:04 GMT -5
I think I speak for a few people, I expected more out of a lead single I’ve waited four years for.
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Jun 13, 2021 9:01:37 GMT -5
I think I speak for a few people, I expected more out of a lead single I’ve waited four years for. Aka an upbeat pop song?
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Post by No Brake$ on Jun 13, 2021 9:05:27 GMT -5
I think I speak for a few people, I expected more out of a lead single I’ve waited four years for. Aka an upbeat pop song? Not at all. How about a Pure Heroine throwback? It’s summer after a crap year, give me something! For example, The Killers, dudes are in their 40s (yes totally different genre of alternative, maybe) but they topped the chart twice last summer with virtually zero promotion. Barely touched pop charts. Point is, if they could do it, Lorde and her team should be able to put something in that category together, right?
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Post by Troublemaker on Jun 13, 2021 9:40:51 GMT -5
Not at all. How about a Pure Heroine throwback? It’s summer after a crap year, give me something! For example, The Killers, dudes are in their 40s (yes totally different genre of alternative, maybe) but they topped the chart twice last summer with virtually zero promotion. Barely touched pop charts. Point is, if they could do it, Lorde and her team should be able to put something in that category together, right? The Killers aren't exactly a fair comparison because they are white, white guys typically get a pass regardless of their age compared to a younger woman.
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Post by Ryan on Jun 13, 2021 9:47:33 GMT -5
I think it's pretty obvious that dominating radio isn't her priority at all. If it sticks, it sticks. And if it doesn't, I'm sure she will still be happily reading all the critical acclaim that she's getting upon the song's release while smoking her apple bong in a luxurious island resort in New Zealand.
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Post by indyradio80 on Jun 13, 2021 10:25:39 GMT -5
Not at all. How about a Pure Heroine throwback? It’s summer after a crap year, give me something! For example, The Killers, dudes are in their 40s (yes totally different genre of alternative, maybe) but they topped the chart twice last summer with virtually zero promotion. Barely touched pop charts. Point is, if they could do it, Lorde and her team should be able to put something in that category together, right? We get it, you didn't get what you wanted. The trend is toward the more chill female pop/rock singer-songwriters right now - Billie Eilish, Lana Del Rey, Arlo Parks, Taylor Swift, Sara Kays, Ashe - read the room. Also, comparing any artist to The Killers is a tough stretch. The Killers will be around 20 years from now, they have the classic rock band chops.
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Post by taylor on Jun 13, 2021 11:30:47 GMT -5
the song is f**king incredible; I'm sorry some of y'all don't have palates that are able to digest anything but the most basic pop fluff
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Post by Au$tin on Jun 13, 2021 13:01:24 GMT -5
The Killers is an all male band that have been churning out hits for decades. Lorde hasn't even had a major hit on alternative since 2014. Melodrama didn't produce a major hit on any radio format. It was all critical acclaim. I don't know why anyone would expect this to be huge out of the gate. Besides, it's Lorde. She has a large cult following. The song doesn't need to be a hit in order for her and the album to still be successful. The entire successes of Melodrama prove this lol.
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Post by No Brake$ on Jun 13, 2021 13:42:09 GMT -5
I think these are very fair points, except for someone killing my palate (come on now my biggest plays this year is Flock of Dimes, Bridgers, Valerie June, but all good).
Anyways, it’s okay for people to be expecting more with as much hype we have been hearing. All I personally need is a few dark tracks from e this autumn and I’ll be happy.
Melodrama was fine, but in my opinion overrated.
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Post by Troy on Jun 13, 2021 14:14:10 GMT -5
maybe it’s time we redesign this website to be less radio-centric…radio is a dinosaur with no relevance this decade or even last decade … I hope this becomes a “hit” by industry standards but only in so much that she’ll reap higher financial rewards…
I don’t give a crap what is #1 or top 10 or what-have-you … most of today’s “hits” will be forgotten by next year (if not next month) … I care about quality & music that stands the test of time … Ella has brought the quality all along & this is no exception
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Jun 13, 2021 15:01:14 GMT -5
maybe it’s time we redesign this website to be less radio-centric…radio is a dinosaur with no relevance this decade or even last decade … I hope this becomes a “hit” by industry standards but only in so much that she’ll reap higher financial rewards… I don’t give a crap what is #1 or top 10 or what-have-you … most of today’s “hits” will be forgotten by next year (if not next month) … I care about quality & music that stands the test of time … Ella has brought the quality all along & this is no exception I remember suggesting and trying to bring that up a few years back. It makes sense except for the overlap between genres that would make it hard to define in too many ways so ultimately it was decided to keep the forums as radio genres because at least those were more defined and allowed for duplicates that were relevant and generated discussion based on where they were (pop vs alternative/rock vs urban/rhythmic).
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Post by Choco on Jun 13, 2021 15:49:28 GMT -5
I don't know which group is more delusional, the ones bending over backwards to convince themselves this is the best pop song in ages or the ones acting like it's a disgrace to the genre.
It's actually... somewhere in the middle.
The radio reception has been disastrous, yeah, but I don't feel like her team is even trying there to begin with.
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Post by kimberly on Jun 13, 2021 17:47:12 GMT -5
not to mention had she released "Team" 2.0 as the lead single, people would be complaining about how she's doing the "same old, same old." I do agree "Solar Power" is not a good lead single for a pop artist, but who's to say Lorde wants to be one? we need to hear the album first to decide if it works well as a lead single but so far, I think she's successfully letting it be known that the vibe of this album is going to be beachy, cozy, and more playful than her first two albums. if these do hold up when the album is out, I think I'd be happy to say "Solar Power" functioned well as a lead single.
Lorde hasn't had any top ten hits after her one-two punch with "Royals" and "Team." In fact, "Green Light" and "Yellow Flicker Beat" are her only other songs that made it onto the top half of the Hot 100. so this is doing great so far (on streaming I mean).
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Post by upsidedown on Jun 14, 2021 6:01:47 GMT -5
This isn't what I expected at all - but I actually quite like it and keep on coming back to it. It's nice and breezy for Summer, and it's nice to have a breezy Lorde song.
Also, is this even the confirmed 1st single though? Or is it a promo single? Stuff like this doesn't need an adds date, it's usually arbitrary, but there isn't even like a radio deal set up with Alt stations or anything, which makes me wonder if this is like a 'preview' single?
Either way, Lorde has never been a radio staple (not at least since Team in 2014), so this wasn't gonna do huge numbers out of the gate. Green Light couldn't even go Top 20.
The Spotify #s speak for themselves though - she still commands a LOT of attention, even if it's not "radio friendly."
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Post by upsidedown on Jun 14, 2021 6:04:23 GMT -5
Also:
ALTERNATIVE (35/71 stations) — 48 LORDE Solar Power 150 0 150 0.517
TRIPLE A (13/28 stations) — 88 LORDE Solar Power 32 0 32 0.082
HOT AC (4/92 stations) — 73 LORDE Solar Power 13 0 13 0.069
TOP 40 (6/180 stations) — 189 LORDE Solar Power 7 0 7 0.106
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Jun 14, 2021 8:10:38 GMT -5
Not at all. How about a Pure Heroine throwback? It’s summer after a crap year, give me something! For example, The Killers, dudes are in their 40s (yes totally different genre of alternative, maybe) but they topped the chart twice last summer with virtually zero promotion. Barely touched pop charts. Point is, if they could do it, Lorde and her team should be able to put something in that category together, right? But all of the The Killers songs from their last album were upbeat and poppy so what's your point? Also so much for being a fan of Lorde when you didn't even know her age.
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Jun 14, 2021 8:12:35 GMT -5
Anyways my opinion of the song now that I've given 5 listens: it's fine.
Not the best pop song of the year (not by a longshot) but also not the disaster Brakey is making it out to be.
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Post by bbdenney94 on Jun 14, 2021 12:03:30 GMT -5
maybe it’s time we redesign this website to be less radio-centric…radio is a dinosaur with no relevance this decade or even last decade … I hope this becomes a “hit” by industry standards but only in so much that she’ll reap higher financial rewards… I don’t give a crap what is #1 or top 10 or what-have-you … most of today’s “hits” will be forgotten by next year (if not next month) … I care about quality & music that stands the test of time … Ella has brought the quality all along & this is no exception This is the best take. There's much more to success than "being playlisted by the one guy who controls most of the alt stations".
Ultimately, what radio does or doesn't do is completely out of our control. All we can ask is: is this a good song? Will I crank it up if it comes on the radio, and would I add it to a playlist?
For me, the answer is a resounding yes. If this song is any indication, Lorde's going to have another major critical success on her hands, and much like Melodrama, radio's not going to play a factor in people remembering it fondly half a decade later.
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Post by Choco on Jun 14, 2021 16:08:29 GMT -5
And if she delivers on the promise of a summer-y album I can play while going to the beach, I'm gonna be more than satisfied (also hopefully she's not gonna take another half a decade for more music. We like you girl, don't go away).
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Post by kimberly on Jun 14, 2021 16:46:01 GMT -5
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