HDD: Olivia Rodrigo #1 — 107k, H.E.R. #6 — 36k

[thegreatdivine]

TOP 20: BACK TO SOUR

SOUR by Geffen’s Olivia Rodrigo returns to #1 in its fifth week on the chart. RCA's H.E.R. may well have the only Top 10 debut; stay tuned for updates.



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[areyoureadytojump]

Dua back to the Top 10.

Queen at #18 is just amazing.

[Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ]

last album with at least 5 100k+ weeks?

[phieaglesfan712]

Jun 22, 2021 17:00:29 GMT -5 Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ said:

last album with at least 5 100k+ weeks?

Wasn’t that Morgan Wallen’s Dangerous earlier this year?

[andrebra]

Add J. Cole to the list of big recent albums that Future Nostalgia is outlasting.

[Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ]

Jun 22, 2021 17:01:45 GMT -5 phieaglesfan712 said:

Jun 22, 2021 17:00:29 GMT -5 Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ said:

last album with at least 5 100k+ weeks?

Wasn’t that Morgan Wallen’s Dangerous earlier this year?

oh yeah, the album with 30 tracks

[Baby Yoda Hot100Fan]

Sorry to point it out, but it would be 106k for Olivia. Nice for the album to return to #1 four weeks at #1.

[kimberly]

Bo Burnham being more stable than Maroon 5... love to see it 🤩

[Choco]

I am always a little puzzled at how massive industry support fails to net H.E.R. good numbers every single time. This is a career best for her, and decent considering there are no hits on the album, but I still feel like she should be opening a bit higher. SZA opened to 60k, for example.

[thegreatdivine]

Jun 22, 2021 20:15:58 GMT -5 Choco said:

I am always a little puzzled at how massive industry support fails to net H.E.R. good numbers every single time. This is a career best for her, and decent considering there are no hits on the album, but I still feel like she should be opening a bit higher. SZA opened to 60k, for example.

She's never been one to post huge numbers but pulling less than 40K SPS from a 21-track album that just so happens to be the debut album she's been teasing since 2016, is underwhelming.

[Rican@]

HER sales are awful. She’s more hype than a star. And she has been on everyone record in these past couple of years.

[Caviar]

Definitely awful, if not tragic numbers from H.E.R. She has Oscars, song of the year, etc etc industry noms but can't crack 50k? Ella Mai did 67k back in 2018 and Jazmine did 43k this year without any hype. At least the album is good.

[Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ]

I'm not surprised at all. H.E.R. is a critical darling, she's like Beyonce, but without hits and album sales.

[Baby Yoda Hot100Fan]

^Sadly, H.E.R. seems to be stuck, for now, being critically acclaimed but less commercially successful.

[thegreatdivine]

H.E.R. has been releasing music under that name since 2014. She has 2 compilation albums, several EPs and numerous high-profile collabs under her belt, along with the biggest industry looks (countless award show and late night TV performances, including SNL) and recognition (Grammys and an Oscar). If none of that is enough to have her debut album pull even 50K SPS, she'll never be commercially successful.

Her album has 21 songs specifically to give her a fighting chance at a decent debut and she still won't pull that off. I mean.

[Wave.]

She got the juice somewhere 🤷🏽 Is she even promoting this?

[kimberly]

Jun 22, 2021 21:24:29 GMT -5 Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ said:

I'm not surprised at all. H.E.R. is a critical darling, she's like Beyonce, but without hits and album sales.

asdjsfkdlsk I fully get what you mean but I will have to kindly reject this comparison. 

H.E.R. clearly has the connections in the industry and seems like a genuinely good person (who people would have no issue voting for at an industry award ceremony). Her music is moody, and she's never really had a big hit in her genre/format, let alone find crossover success like Ella Mai and Jhené Aiko, so her underperformance is no surprise. 

Jun 22, 2021 21:33:59 GMT -5 thegreatdivine said:

Her album has 21 songs specifically to give her a fighting chance at a decent debut and she still won't pull that off. I mean.

Personally, this is what turned me off from checking out the album so far (+ the Chris Brown song 🤢). It feels like a chore to sit through all 80 minutes of it. Compare that to the run time of recent hit albums by women: SOUR was 35 minutes, Future Nostalgia 37 minutes, Heaux Tales 32 minutes, Ella Mai was 52 minutes long. Chilombo also had 20 songs, but had a run time of 63 minutes. 

[Naos]

Interesting to see Bo Burnham in the Top 10 for a second week. Nice longevity and probably one of the biggest comedy albums in a long time.

[thegreatdivine]

Jun 22, 2021 22:08:12 GMT -5 kimberly said:

Jun 22, 2021 21:24:29 GMT -5 Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ said:

I'm not surprised at all. H.E.R. is a critical darling, she's like Beyonce, but without hits and album sales.

asdjsfkdlsk I fully get what you mean but I will have to kindly reject this comparison. 

H.E.R. clearly has the connections in the industry and seems like a genuinely good person (who people would have no issue voting for at an industry award ceremony). Her music is moody, and she's never really had a big hit in her genre/format, let alone find crossover success like Ella Mai and Jhené Aiko, so her underperformance is no surprise. 

Jun 22, 2021 21:33:59 GMT -5 thegreatdivine said:

Her album has 21 songs specifically to give her a fighting chance at a decent debut and she still won't pull that off. I mean.

Personally, this is what turned me off from checking out the album so far (+ the Chris Brown song 🤢). It feels like a chore to sit through all 80 minutes of it. Compare that to the run time of recent hit albums by women: SOUR was 35 minutes, Future Nostalgia 37 minutes, Heaux Tales 32 minutes, Ella Mai was 52 minutes long. Chilombo also had 20 songs, but had a run time of 63 minutes. 

Trust me, you're not missing anything by not checking out the album. There are probably less than 8/9 songs you'll walk away feeling like were worth your time. It's really just a bland, lifeless mess. A whole lot of boring, monotone songs sprinkled all over the album. A huge miss for someone whose debut album was meant to hit the mark.

[kimberly]

Jun 22, 2021 23:04:03 GMT -5 thegreatdivine said:

Jun 22, 2021 22:08:12 GMT -5 kimberly said:

asdjsfkdlsk I fully get what you mean but I will have to kindly reject this comparison. 

H.E.R. clearly has the connections in the industry and seems like a genuinely good person (who people would have no issue voting for at an industry award ceremony). Her music is moody, and she's never really had a big hit in her genre/format, let alone find crossover success like Ella Mai and Jhené Aiko, so her underperformance is no surprise. 

Personally, this is what turned me off from checking out the album so far (+ the Chris Brown song 🤢). It feels like a chore to sit through all 80 minutes of it. Compare that to the run time of recent hit albums by women: SOUR was 35 minutes, Future Nostalgia 37 minutes, Heaux Tales 32 minutes, Ella Mai was 52 minutes long. Chilombo also had 20 songs, but had a run time of 63 minutes. 

Trust me, you're not missing anything by not checking out the album. There are probably less than 8/9 songs you'll walk away feeling like were worth your time. It's really just a bland, lifeless mess. A whole lot of boring, monotone songs sprinkled all over the album. A huge miss for someone whose debut album was meant to hit the mark.

I LOVE "Damage" (my 11th most-played song of 2021 so far), and I enjoyed "Slide," but I really didn't care for the Chris Brown collaboration, DJ Khaled collaboration, "Hold On" or "We Made It." So I might just wait and see if anything on the album performs well / gets praise online, and start with those.

[shayonce]

H.E.R. Biggest first week was with "I Used to Know Her: The Prelude EP"(2018 August), 17k SPS and 10k sales.

[Enigma.]

She could try something else than being a regular r&b star - work with experimental producers and build the hype among the tastemakers. I've liked her EPs but the album feels like it's the 3/5 version of her earlier stuff and lasts over 80 mins.

[violentdreams]

Jun 22, 2021 20:40:01 GMT -5 fridayteenage said:

hmm dangerous stopped at 5 100k's.

i'd like sour to get to six next week, but based on the drops 90s seems more likely.

She'll get a sixth week over 100k when her vinyls ship out.

[Push The Button]

HER just needs that one crossover hit and she’ll be off like a rocket.

[Choco]

I do give it to H.E.R., "Hard Place" was amazing. It's the closest she's come to a song that I feel could have been a radio hit.

[Caviar]

"Hard Place" is absolutely her best song along with "Damaged". I feel like waiting all these years to release a debut album hurt her momentum going into this album. I also agree with the above poster that she's one hit away from commercial stardom.

[Rican@]

Jun 23, 2021 20:18:34 GMT -5 Caviar said:

"Hard Place" is absolutely her best song along with "Damaged". I feel like waiting all these years to release a debut album hurt her momentum going into this album. I also agree with the above poster that she's one hit away from commercial stardom.

They should have pushed Hard Place harder to Pop. It is really no excuse on why it didn’t hit especially with the attention it got early on.

[thegreatdivine]

I think she has a lot more songs than Hard Place that are great/could have potentially become a hit. Her first compilation album should have been her debut album. That's still her best collection of songs and it's still her best received/most commercially successful project.

With that being said, I don't think she's one hit away from being set up as some sort of mainstream staple. This girl grew up in the music industry. She got a record label deal at 13 but didn't start releasing music as H.E.R. until 2014. She has all the industry connections and support an artist her age would kill for. She's been on the biggest stages (some of them, multiple times) and has worked with a handful of major mainstream acts. There's really no stone her/her label have left unturned in terms of pushing her/giving her the best chance to succeed. If after all that, she hasn't taken off and established herself as a commercially viable artist then she'll never be one.

Many of her peers with less than a quarter of the industry push and support she has gotten have done a lot better than her commercially so there are really no excuses on that end.

[thegreatdivine]

I believe that the biggest factor in making or breaking a music career is how much people connect with an artist and their music. It's not enough to be talented or hard-working.

If people don't connect with your music and continue connecting with it, there are certain heights your career will never reach regardless of the amount of money your label chooses to invest in you and regardless of the kind of industry connections you have.

R&B is a very successful genre, especially for female artists. Summer Walker, SZA, Ella Mai and Jhené Aiko have proven that, so using the genre to explain away H.E.R.'s shortcomings commercially shouldn't even be brought up.

I still like a lot of her music and I think she's still got some great songs left in her but she's been on the mainstream music scene for 5 years now and... yeah. She can win all the Grammys and Oscars and Emmys and Tonys she wants. That won't make up for the fact that people simply don't connect with her music (especially recently) as much as the music industry wants us to believe they do.

[Rican@]

One of the biggest flaw about this album rollout is the real focus on the album. Personally, I felt she released unnecessary tracks to gather awards. I couldn’t keep up and didn’t know what was meant for her album. All of this talk about her debut yet she was releasing one off tracks could have thrown people off. Hell, now I’m see she’s going for an Emmy. I bet she will take the success over the awards any day. Her team thought they had something going with these awards, which would intrigue people to check her out. Yet Mariah said it best, “I don’t know her.” It’s a shame because she’s quite talented yet her team needs to refocus on her branding.