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Post by christianlarson9 on Aug 31, 2021 12:08:00 GMT -5
I get that Carrie had little to no music in the Country genre during the eligibility period, but given she's shortlisted for both of her side projects in various categories, she definitely has support from voters and I think she's a lock this year for Female.
The only category I'm finding hard to predict is New Artist. In a perfect world, they go with 3 women nominees and 2 males, but I'm not sure that will happen. Gabby is the one artist I'm confident in getting a nomination and I think she'll win the category. There's so much competition this year, but for the other nominees, I currently have Hardy, Parker McCollum, Lainey Wilson, and Jimmie Allen.
I sadly don't think we'll see Ingrid Andress nominated again, but I do think Tenille Arts and Mickey Guyton all have a good shot at nominations. As for males, Niko Moon and Jameson Rodgers are the only ones that come to mind, but given I don't listen to many male artist, I'm probably forgetting someone.
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Post by stanches2318 on Aug 31, 2021 12:35:26 GMT -5
It’s amazing to me that people think that Carrie shouldn’t be nominated for female because of her Gospel and Christmas album. If I’m not mistaken Didn’t Alan jackson win Album of the year for his “Precious Memories” album , which is gospel. So why can’t Carrie be nominated if Alan was with his? In my opinion I have “My Saviorr” should be nominated for album of the year.
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Post by christianlarson9 on Aug 31, 2021 12:38:56 GMT -5
It’s amazing to me that people think that Carrie shouldn’t be nominated for female because of her Gospel and Christmas album. If I’m not mistaken Didn’t Alan jackson win Album of the year for his “Precious Memories” album , which is gospel. So why can’t Carrie be nominated if Alan was with his? In my opinion I have “My Saviorr” should be nominated for album of the year. I 100% agree. Even though I didn't get into the album, it sold very well and I also can't think of many other albums I would like to see nominated this year, but I'm always here for Carrie recognition!
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Post by zdm1998 on Aug 31, 2021 13:32:28 GMT -5
Kelsea and Gabby had more radio success this year yes, but in reality they each just had one #1 hit during that year. Radio isn’t the end all be all, I’d say releasing two absolutely huge side projects is “more successful” than a #1 hit, especially CU’s gospel album. I mean it was like the 4th (I think) best pure selling album of the year all genre. A gospel album did that. That is huge. Not to mention all the other things she did like multiple Television appearances, her HBO max special and her Easter Special. To try to undersell CU’s year just cause she didn’t have a #1 hit is stupid. IMO she’s one that belongs in there the most.
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Post by CoJoFan on Aug 31, 2021 13:39:02 GMT -5
I get that Carrie had little to no music in the Country genre during the eligibility period, but given she's shortlisted for both of her side projects in various categories, she definitely has support from voters and I think she's a lock this year for Female. The only category I'm finding hard to predict is New Artist. In a perfect world, they go with 3 women nominees and 2 males, but I'm not sure that will happen. Gabby is the one artist I'm confident in getting a nomination and I think she'll win the category. There's so much competition this year, but for the other nominees, I currently have Hardy, Parker McCollum, Lainey Wilson, and Jimmie Allen. I sadly don't think we'll see Ingrid Andress nominated again, but I do think Tenille Arts and Mickey Guyton all have a good shot at nominations. As for males, Niko Moon and Jameson Rodgers are the only ones that come to mind, but given I don't listen to many male artist, I'm probably forgetting someone. Jordan Davis I don’t think has ever been nominated and to me seems like the logical winner. Idk if they’d nominate Gabby 2 years in a row. Did she even have any of the for your consideration ads for New Artist if the year in the weekly pdf’s?
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Post by christianlarson9 on Aug 31, 2021 15:35:18 GMT -5
I get that Carrie had little to no music in the Country genre during the eligibility period, but given she's shortlisted for both of her side projects in various categories, she definitely has support from voters and I think she's a lock this year for Female. The only category I'm finding hard to predict is New Artist. In a perfect world, they go with 3 women nominees and 2 males, but I'm not sure that will happen. Gabby is the one artist I'm confident in getting a nomination and I think she'll win the category. There's so much competition this year, but for the other nominees, I currently have Hardy, Parker McCollum, Lainey Wilson, and Jimmie Allen. I sadly don't think we'll see Ingrid Andress nominated again, but I do think Tenille Arts and Mickey Guyton all have a good shot at nominations. As for males, Niko Moon and Jameson Rodgers are the only ones that come to mind, but given I don't listen to many male artist, I'm probably forgetting someone. Jordan Davis I don’t think has ever been nominated and to me seems like the logical winner. Idk if they’d nominate Gabby 2 years in a row. Did she even have any of the for your consideration ads for New Artist if the year in the weekly pdf’s? Warner didn't publish any ads in Aircheck or Billboard. Their clients all had ads on the showcase though. Also I would be absolutely shocked if Gabby isn't nominated. Commercial success wise she was definitely one of the most successful if not the most successful female artist in the genre during eligibility. She was still having success with "I Hope", had even more success with "The Good Ones" and she won multiple awards including New Female Artist at the ACM's. She seems to have quite a bit of support, so it would be a surprise if she isn't nominated. I see Gabby having the same nominations as she did last year although I could see her ending up in 2 additional categories as well (Song of the Year and Female Vocalist).
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Post by christianlarson9 on Aug 31, 2021 15:39:31 GMT -5
Kelsea and Gabby had more radio success this year yes, but in reality they each just had one #1 hit during that year. Radio isn’t the end all be all, I’d say releasing two absolutely huge side projects is “more successful” than a #1 hit, especially CU’s gospel album. I mean it was like the 4th (I think) best pure selling album of the year all genre. A gospel album did that. That is huge. Not to mention all the other things she did like multiple Television appearances, her HBO max special and her Easter Special. To try to undersell CU’s year just cause she didn’t have a #1 hit is stupid. IMO she’s one that belongs in there the most. Agreed. I honestly feel like the one category that radio should be a decently big factor in is Single of the Year which will definitely help Gabby get recognition there and I could see her winning the category too although my pick would be "Forever After All".
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Post by raylatch98 on Aug 31, 2021 16:06:36 GMT -5
Okay I don't think Carrie Underwood should be in there the most, I at least think Miranda Lambert had a bigger year, hell there's an argument for Carly Pearce having a bigger year than Carrie Underwood. I mean even if Carrie Underwood does get in, I feel fairly confident she isn't winning female.
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Post by christianlarson9 on Aug 31, 2021 16:54:53 GMT -5
Okay I don't think Carrie Underwood should be in there the most, I at least think Miranda Lambert had a bigger year, hell there's an argument for Carly Pearce having a bigger year than Carrie Underwood. I mean even if Carrie Underwood does get in, I feel fairly confident she isn't winning female. If Carrie is winning any award this year, it will be Entertainer imo. I think Female Vocalist will go Miranda or Maren, but I think Miranda deserves it this year, but I could see them giving it to Maren and maybe even Carly or Gabby if nominated to continue their streak of giving the award to newer female artists since they had years of Carrie or Miranda winning the award.
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Post by countrymancarriefan on Aug 31, 2021 16:56:47 GMT -5
I will say that both Carrie and Miranda should both make it into female and possibly EOTY. (Psst. Carrie should be walking away with Entertainer in a landslide and if you don’t think so you are fooling yourself..) but let’s look at just their album chart performance in the last year. My Gift debuted at number 1 on the billboard Country, Christian, and Holiday album charts. It debuted at number 5 on the billboard 200 overall album chart. My Savior debuted at number 1 on the billboard Country, and Christian album chart. It debuted at number 4 on the billboard 200 overall album chart. The Marfa Tapes debuted at number 7 on the billboard Country album chart and number 51 on the billboard 200 album chart. So Carrie has Miranda beat there. That said both MS and Marfa should be up for Album Of The Year.
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Post by christianlarson9 on Aug 31, 2021 17:03:54 GMT -5
I will say that both Carrie and Miranda should both make it into female and possibly EOTY. (Psst. Carrie should be walking away with Entertainer in a landslide and if you don’t think so you are fooling yourself..) but let’s look at just their album chart performance in the last year. My Gift debuted at number 1 on the billboard Country, Christian, and Holiday album charts. It debuted at number 5 on the billboard 200 overall album chart. My Savior debuted at number 1 on the billboard Country, and Christian album chart. It debuted at number 4 on the billboard 200 overall album chart. The Marfa Tapes debuted at number 7 on the billboard Country album chart and number 51 on the billboard 200 album chart. So Carrie has Miranda beat there. That said both MS and Marfa should be up for Album Of The Year. I believe Miranda didn't have CD's for 'The Marfa Tapes', but nonetheless both should definitely be in both Female and Entertainer and this should definitely be Carrie's year to win Entertainer.
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Post by stanches2318 on Aug 31, 2021 17:19:34 GMT -5
In my personal opinion Miranda is not an Entertainer. She’s doesn’t entertain me with her music like she used to. I would have. Carrie, Eric, Combs, Thomas, Bryan or Shelton.
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Post by zdm1998 on Aug 31, 2021 17:27:00 GMT -5
I really hope Carly sneaks in the FVOTY win. She really “leveled up” this past year and I think that should be reflected. I do hope this is the year CU take EOTY, just because I want that to go ahead and happen so I don’t have to worry if it will ever happen lol. Not to mention she’s very deserving.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Aug 31, 2021 17:51:54 GMT -5
I haven't seen a single solid argument for Carrie Underwood not being in Female Vocalist this year.
That said, I'd love to see some shake-up in the category with some of the newer females starting to get in, but I'd be surprised if Carrie misses out on a slot when it's obvious they're suggesting her for nominations in other categories.
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Post by kamala 2024 truther on Aug 31, 2021 18:13:59 GMT -5
Carrie Underwood has had two wildly successful albums--one of which is one of the best-selling female albums of 2021, period--and has released droplet after droplet after droplet. A collaboration with Loretta Lynn & Reba McEntire. A bilingual Latin Pop duet with David Bisbal. A second collaboration with NEEDTOBREATHE. And your radio hit, "If I Didn't Love You" with Jason Aldean, which debuted at #20 on the Country Airplay chart (and is either inside or nearing the Top 10 after just over one month), is the best debut (debuted at #2) for a male/female duet in the history of the Hot Country Songs chart, and debuted at #15 on the all-genre Hot 100, which is a rare feat for country songs. Not to mention, she is even featured on the motion picture soundtrack to Dear Evan Hansen.
No matter how anybody spins it, there is no escaping the fact that she has had a wildly successful and very deserving year, and the Country Music Association should remember about the lack of touring for much of the eligibility period and focus on metrics beyond just having a radio hit, since the EOTY award is supposed to be handed to the artist who has done the greatest job at representing the country music genre itself through mediums outside of the radio, and nobody has done that like her this year. Whether they actually will or not is to be seen, because this is the Country Music Association, but from every standpoint, she is the EOTY.
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Post by carrieidol1 on Aug 31, 2021 18:14:20 GMT -5
I really hope Carly sneaks in the FVOTY win. She really “leveled up” this past year and I think that should be reflected. I do hope this is the year CU take EOTY, just because I want that to go ahead and happen so I don’t have to worry if it will ever happen lol. Not to mention she’s very deserving. Ditto! I’ve been probably the most vocal Carrie fan on pulse since like 2008 when I first thought she was deserving. For so many years she unjustly went without a nomination. It wasn’t until 2016 it finally happened, and then the same recurrent artist snagged it the two years she had a viable shot as a nominee. I don’t consider Eric’s win last year a “snag”, because he and Carrie were in the same boat for a number of years, and there’s no question he’s deserving of his title. This year I believe Carrie has one of the strongest cases, if not THE strongest of all the artists contending for slots in EOTY. I feel FVOTY would be highly likely, but there’s actually competition there and it would behove the association to embrace it, imo. I would love Carrie to work towards the record in the FV category she should already hold - but 5 in the last 15 years is pretty solid, it’s hard to ask for more there. Right now, I’m just hoping she receives any nominations. It’s entirely possible she misses the cut in all the fields, which would be awful. I don’t find this to be likely, but so many circumstances are different in terms of the lack of touring all around and the material she’s released - it’s hard to know how the voters will decide when touring is usually the biggest indicator. So I’m cautiously optimistic for the nominations to come out, but with the CMAs after years of disappointment, I’ve learned not to assume or predict anything.
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Post by christianlarson9 on Aug 31, 2021 18:17:49 GMT -5
I really hope Carly sneaks in the FVOTY win. She really “leveled up” this past year and I think that should be reflected. I do hope this is the year CU take EOTY, just because I want that to go ahead and happen so I don’t have to worry if it will ever happen lol. Not to mention she’s very deserving. Ditto! I’ve been probably the most vocal Carrie fan on pulse since like 2008 when I first thought she was deserving. For so many years she unjustly went without a nomination. It wasn’t until 2016 it finally happened, and then the same recurrent artist snagged it the two years she had a viable shot as a nominee. I don’t consider Eric’s win last year a “snag”, because he and Carrie were in the same boat for a number of years, and there’s no question he’s deserving of his title. This year I believe Carrie has one of the strongest cases, if not THE strongest of all the artists contending for slots in EOTY. I feel FVOTY would be highly likely, but there’s actually competition there and it would behove the association to embrace it, imo. I would love Carrie to work towards the record in the FV category she should already hold - but 5 in the last 15 years is pretty solid, it’s hard to ask for more there. Right now, I’m just hoping she receives any nominations. It’s entirely possible she misses the cut in all the fields, which would be awful. I don’t find this to be likely, but so many circumstances are different in terms of the lack of touring all around and the material she’s released - it’s hard to know how the voters will decide when touring is usually the biggest indicator. So I’m cautiously optimistic for the nominations to come out, but with the CMAs after years of disappointment, I’ve learned not to assume or predict anything. I think she'll score noms in Album of the Year, Entertainter, Female Vocalist and Music Video. I could see Musical Event, but that category is stacked this year.
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Post by carrieidol1 on Aug 31, 2021 18:39:34 GMT -5
I don’t think Carrie has ever been nominated 4+ times at a single CMA Awards. If she pulls that off with two cover albums after 15 years of original material, it’ll be like full circle. She became a star singing covers for America, after all. Like, ohhhh, ya’ll were just waiting for covers this whole time!? 😂
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Post by countrymancarriefan on Aug 31, 2021 19:50:53 GMT -5
Carrie has actually had 4 nominations at 3 prior ceremonies if you count production credits as their own nominations. 2006 she was nominated for MVOTY for JTTW, Single Of The Year for JTTW, the Horizon award/New Artist of the year (winner), and FVOTY (winner). 2016 she was nominated for MEOTY for “The Fighter” with Keith Urban, AOTY for Storyteller, FVOTY (winner), and EOTY. 2019 she was nominated for AOTY for CP as Producer, AOTY as Artist, FVOTY, and EOTY.
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Post by christianlarson9 on Aug 31, 2021 19:54:39 GMT -5
Question: If an artist has production credits on an album and wins Album of the Year, does that mean they get 2 awards for the project since they got 2 nominations?
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Post by 14887fan on Aug 31, 2021 19:57:17 GMT -5
Question: If an artist has production credits on an album and wins Album of the Year, does that mean they get 2 awards for the project since they got 2 nominations? Yep.
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Post by christianlarson9 on Aug 31, 2021 20:14:39 GMT -5
Wow! Is there are any other categories similar to this where an artist can win twice aside from Album and Song of the Year?
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Post by carrieidol1 on Aug 31, 2021 20:18:01 GMT -5
Wow! Is there are any other categories similar to this where an artist can win twice aside from Album and Song of the Year? I’d guess Music Video if the artist also directed/produced the video. I think it goes for any music-specific category, as a number of people involved win those awards.
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Post by countrymancarriefan on Aug 31, 2021 20:28:44 GMT -5
Single of The Year is awarded to the Artist, Producer, and Mix Engineer also.
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Post by christianlarson9 on Sept 2, 2021 10:25:46 GMT -5
Hopefully nominations will be announced next week. Not sure why there is a delay this year.
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Post by countrymancarriefan on Sept 2, 2021 22:27:29 GMT -5
Hopefully nominations will be announced next week. Not sure why there is a delay this year. I bet they were waiting for Summer Jam to air. Plus I bet they have to work out a schedule with whatever artist or artists may have been chose to help with the announcement.
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Post by carrieidol1 on Sept 3, 2021 8:05:44 GMT -5
Why couldn’t they make last night’s special into a nomination announcement? Like, after each commercial break announce a category? Then use the show as more or less of a showcase for each EOTY nominee… announce one name at a time leading into that artist’s segment. I think they could’ve increased viewership doing that. Just an idea! I know it wasn’t live, but they could’ve pre-taped the nominee segments, or went live just for them.
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Post by zdm1998 on Sept 3, 2021 8:07:03 GMT -5
Announcement will probably come next week. Usually they come the first week of September, so I don't know what the delay was.
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Post by christianlarson9 on Sept 3, 2021 9:51:15 GMT -5
Why couldn’t they make last night’s special into a nomination announcement? Like, after each commercial break announce a category? Then use the show as more or less of a showcase for each EOTY nominee… announce one name at a time leading into that artist’s segment. I think they could’ve increased viewership doing that. Just an idea! I know it wasn’t live, but they could’ve pre-taped the nominee segments, or went live just for them. That would've been such a smart idea. I just hope there's an announcement soon of what day they will be announced and who will be announcing them.
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Post by countrymancarriefan on Sept 3, 2021 10:33:52 GMT -5
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