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Post by phieaglesfan712 on Jul 12, 2021 13:02:58 GMT -5
I’m curious as to whether the new alignment change will mean the Hot 100 can finally be revealed on Fridays like with much of the rest of the world. Release the top 10 articles in the morning (ET), then the full charts in the afternoon. That would be perfect. Of course, Saturdays wouldn’t be too bad either. Might even make a little more sense given how busy Fridays often are for the industry. But there’s no way the top 10 reveal and full chart publication should happen on 2 different days. Agreed, I can live with a Friday, or even Saturday, reveal. But there is no good reason anymore to have a Monday (or even Tuesday) reveal. Holding on to the data for 3-4 days after the tracking period is over would be extremely shady.
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Post by jeiboy on Jul 12, 2021 13:04:53 GMT -5
ARMYS need to be strategic with 3 days of tracking left with their mass buying ratio
3 scenarios could happen
1. Permission to Dance (DEBUT) 2. Butter (-1) 3. good 4 u (-1)
1. Butter (8th week at #1) 2. Permission to Dance (DEBUT) 3. good 4 u (-1)
1. good 4 u (+1) 2. Butter (-1) 3. Permission to Dance (DEBUT)
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Post by gikem on Jul 12, 2021 13:10:49 GMT -5
Agreed, I can live with a Friday, or even Saturday, reveal. But there is no good reason anymore to have a Monday (or even Tuesday) reveal. Holding on to the data for 3-4 days after the tracking period is over would be extremely shady. FYI, I deleted the post you quoted because I hadn’t realized at the time that Billboard isn’t changing the dates their charts are revealed until I saw the 7/17 thread. I don’t disagree with you, and I still would prefer the top 10 reveal and the full chart publication occur on the same day, but I hope you understand that I was ignorant at the time and shouldn’t have posted that.
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Post by iHype. on Jul 12, 2021 13:15:21 GMT -5
The only country I’m aware that does Friday reveals is UK, and I believe they have to estimate the las day of data or something along those lines. It is nearly impossible to have everything finalized and reported in just hours.
Even the countries that do Saturday have way smaller populations and don’t have thousands of retail stores reporting. Also they don’t have hundreds of charts like Billboard… just like 2 or 3 charts that aren’t even 100 positions.
There would probably be way too many errors in trying to report and finalize everything by Friday/Saturday. Also many of the workers are 9-5 Monday-Friday workers.
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Jul 12, 2021 13:16:00 GMT -5
ARMYS need to be strategic with 3 days of tracking left with their mass buying ratio 3 scenarios could happen 1. Permission to Dance (DEBUT) 2. Butter (-1) 3. good 4 u (-1) 1. Butter (8th week at #1) 2. Permission to Dance (DEBUT) 3. good 4 u (-1) 1. good 4 u (+1) 2. Butter (-1) 3. Permission to Dance (DEBUT) Scenario three seems to be the least likely ...
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Post by Az Paynter on Jul 12, 2021 13:17:39 GMT -5
iHype. Australia recently made a change so that the ARIA charts are now revealed of a Friday afternoon/evening. (around 5PM Australian EST, I believe?)
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Post by jeiboy on Jul 12, 2021 13:18:08 GMT -5
ARMYS need to be strategic with 3 days of tracking left with their mass buying ratio 3 scenarios could happen 1. Permission to Dance (DEBUT) 2. Butter (-1) 3. good 4 u (-1) 1. Butter (8th week at #1) 2. Permission to Dance (DEBUT) 3. good 4 u (-1) 1. good 4 u (+1) 2. Butter (-1) 3. Permission to Dance (DEBUT) Scenario three seems to be the least likely ... depends on their panic buying/streaming/radio requests on Thursday
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Post by jeiboy on Jul 12, 2021 13:34:56 GMT -5
Butter only has a 20 point lead this week
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Post by Choco on Jul 12, 2021 13:42:08 GMT -5
Anyways... the new BTS song is really not even doing their usual middling numbers on the streaming. I'm gonna be so sad when it inevitably cracks top three pushing down "Levitating" and maybe even "good 4 u" down. Also Fancy Like is outselling it in ITunes, for mass buying on the first week this seems pretty weak, although website sales will probably pull through because why not. BTS has a huge percentage of their total sales from website sales, so iTunes isn't a clear predictor.
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Post by Wavey✨️ on Jul 12, 2021 13:46:59 GMT -5
"Need to Know" going up a lil!
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Post by Choco on Jul 12, 2021 14:15:27 GMT -5
It was crazy that airplay even was in a different tracking for that long. Now the My Life Would Suck & Me! records will probably never be broken. Yeah I do feel like those records just became crazy difficult to top. Still kinda sad "ME!" just missed the #100 to #1 move, but tbh it was not even close in terms of popularity and the song plain sucks lol worst song on Lover.
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Post by Henry Suárez on Jul 12, 2021 14:37:21 GMT -5
Is Butter confirmed #1 (8th week) for this week as well or too early to call?
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Post by phieaglesfan712 on Jul 12, 2021 14:53:34 GMT -5
Is Butter confirmed #1 (8th week) for this week as well or too early to call? I think this one is more secure than last week. Butter is doing much better on streaming this week (then again, it probably couldn't do much worse that this past week), and PTD hasn't really light the world on fire with its performance. Plus, we've got the normal contenders G4u, KMM, and Levitating already declining in points. Butter pretty much has this one in the bag.
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Post by rimetm on Jul 12, 2021 14:59:03 GMT -5
Still kinda sad "ME!" just missed the #100 to #1 move, but tbh it was not even close in terms of popularity and the song plain sucks lol worst song on Lover. Funny you mention that race, because I was checking the numbers recently and, had the UGC change come sooner, it actually had the #1 quite handily. ![](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/366313666137554944/858419198992711710/unknown.png)
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Jul 12, 2021 15:17:29 GMT -5
^Old Town Road definitely ended up being the song benefiting the most from UGC counting.
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Post by phieaglesfan712 on Jul 12, 2021 15:18:31 GMT -5
After seeing that, I’m glad that UGC counted that week, and the correct song ended up being #1 that week. OTR was clearly bigger than ME!
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Post by fridayteenage on Jul 12, 2021 17:12:02 GMT -5
Still kinda sad "ME!" just missed the #100 to #1 move, but tbh it was not even close in terms of popularity and the song plain sucks lol worst song on Lover. Funny you mention that race, because I was checking the numbers recently and, had the UGC change come sooner, it actually had the #1 quite handily. ![](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/366313666137554944/858419198992711710/unknown.png) oh wow. tik tok hijinks at least showing a bit less directly now.
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Post by korbel16 on Jul 12, 2021 18:05:45 GMT -5
They should lowkey bring UGC back… it’d be a fun hot 100 lol
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Post by mms82 on Jul 12, 2021 18:07:19 GMT -5
They should lowkey bring UGC back… it’d be a fun hot 100 lol why would be the change to this week’s (the one that came out today)‘s chart if that was the case? Top 10 for Maneskin and Fancy Like?
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Post by iHype. on Jul 12, 2021 18:24:43 GMT -5
They should lowkey bring UGC back… it’d be a fun hot 100 lol If anything it'd make the chart more stagnated. Good 4 U, Montero, Peaches, Levitating, etc are the songs that also go viral in TikToks and would just stay in top 10 longer with more points. Old Town Road & Bad Guy had the biggest drops after the rules. Songs that were months past their peaks rather than viral hits of the moment were benefitting most.
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Post by pokepikalem on Jul 12, 2021 18:25:38 GMT -5
ARMYS need to be strategic with 3 days of tracking left with their mass buying ratio 3 scenarios could happen 1. Permission to Dance (DEBUT) 2. Butter (-1) 3. good 4 u (-1) 1. Butter (8th week at #1) 2. Permission to Dance (DEBUT) 3. good 4 u (-1) 1. good 4 u (+1) 2. Butter (-1) 3. Permission to Dance (DEBUT) Hold up, this is queenofcopypaste from atrl. No wonder the posts about BTS are giving me the same vibe. OP: Me loving some UGC back to the chart.
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Post by 𝓲𝓽'𝓼.𝓰𝓿 on Jul 12, 2021 18:34:13 GMT -5
After seeing that, I’m glad that UGC counted that week, and the correct song ended up being #1 that week. OTR was clearly bigger than ME! I'm still salty that "ME!" never got to #1 mostly because I really wanted Brendon Urie to get a #1, and also the song taking the "highest jump to #1" achievement (although it took the "highest single upward movement")
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Post by Gary on Jul 12, 2021 19:09:03 GMT -5
Here's When BTS Thinks 'Permission to Dance' Will Hit No. 1 on the Billboard Hot 100 By Heran Mamo 7/12/2021 Click to copy www.billboard.com/articles/columns/k-town/9599701/bts-predicts-permission-to-dance-number-1-billboard-hot-100BTS unwrapped their "Butter" CD single in a sweet new video while predicting the fate of "Permission to Dance," the new song included as part of the CD. Their official YouTube channel BangtanTV posted a video Sunday of the K-pop septet unboxing the two sweet flavors of the CD packaging, which comes in "Peaches" and "Cream." How does a single titled "Butter," which is currently spending its seventh week at the No. 1 spot on the Billboard Hot 100, also come in "Peaches" and "Cream" flavors? Let V explain. "Peaches can mean a good colleague," he said before Jimin jumped in to help clear up the confusion, "I didn't know what 'peaches and cream' meant at first, but they say it means a 'stylish person.'" What the boy band claims to know for certain is when "Permission to Dance," the Ed Sheeran-co-written B-side to "Butter" on the CD, will swap spots with "Butter" on top of the Billboard chart. The seven members have kept up with the number of weeks "Butter" has stuck to No. 1, with Suga saying, "When this airs, it'll probably be the 6th week of #1." (A day after the song aired, it was announced that the song stuck to the top spot for a seventh week.) He added, "After 6 weeks at #1 "Permission to Dance" will take the spot and be first for 4 to 5 more weeks." Check back on Billboard.com next Monday, July 19, to see where "Permission to Dance" lands on the Billboard Hot 100 for the song's debut.
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Post by jayhawk1117 on Jul 12, 2021 20:11:39 GMT -5
Wooo another 5 weeks of inaccuracy in the top of the charts! Let's Gooooo
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Post by gikem on Jul 12, 2021 20:27:06 GMT -5
Welp, now Army has a definitive goal to attain. They’re probably working hard to make this come true.
I’m interested to see how this will impact Butter’s run - with more focus placed on PTD, sales will probably fall back to more “normal” numbers from 7/31 onward.
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Post by kindofbiased on Jul 12, 2021 20:45:24 GMT -5
Suga is an agent of chaos
Tbf if I was a major pop star I’d also go “hmm, I think the new single will spent 9-10 weeks at #1, WINK WINK”
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Post by chartfreak on Jul 12, 2021 20:49:55 GMT -5
Does Olivia not have an Army to stream and buy Good 4 U? It would certainly help now that Butter is getting weaker.
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Post by phieaglesfan712 on Jul 12, 2021 20:50:16 GMT -5
They should lowkey bring UGC back… it’d be a fun hot 100 lol If anything it'd make the chart more stagnated. Good 4 U, Montero, Peaches, Levitating, etc are the songs that also go viral in TikToks and would just stay in top 10 longer with more points. Old Town Road & Bad Guy had the biggest drops after the rules. Songs that were months past their peaks rather than viral hits of the moment were benefitting most. But the trade off would be that Butter wouldn’t be #1 and One Too Many would have gone to recurrency a long time ago. Plus, it would make it much harder for songs with abysmal streaming numbers to chart, so you’d get a more accurate chart. Besides, I would have rather had OTR make it to 52 weeks than Sucker or I Don’t Care getting those extra (undeserved) weeks.
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Post by jayhawk1117 on Jul 12, 2021 21:31:36 GMT -5
Does Olivia not have an Army to stream and buy Good 4 U? It would certainly help now that Butter is getting weaker. Yeah her Army is called the General Public lol. And they stream it well above everything that's not a new release.
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Post by lurker2 on Jul 12, 2021 21:35:01 GMT -5
One Too Many wouldn't have gone recurrent, since it's gaining in country airplay.
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