Billboard Hot 100: 08/28/2021

[chartfreak]

I have to say I'm really surprised and shocked at Doja's stability on streaming.

[kcdawg13]

Aug 17, 2021 19:27:18 GMT -5 chartfreak said:

I have to say I'm really surprised and shocked at Doja's stability on streaming.

I think Doja's stability comes from the fact that she's one of the only female pop stars that is cool to straight dudes, and straight white dudes especially. Like not just "guilty pleasure," but straight dudes actually don't feel bad about listening to her and have no shame telling people they listen to her. At least in my circle of friends that's how it is.

[nathanalbright]

Now this is a subject I'd like to see thinkpieces about--an examination of the demographics of Doja Cat's streaming popularity.

[gikem]

I would have never guessed that Doja Cat, a mixed-race, openly-bisexual female rapper, would appeal heavily to straight white dudes. I suppose I can see it if they're in the Gen Z demographic and know her songs from TikTok, but I find that really interesting.

[kindofbiased]

I can't let myself trust early predictions, especially predictions posted on Tuesday, but if Essence ends up getting to the top 20 this week I'd be ecstatic

[pancakes]

Why is Steve Lacy’s Dark Red gaining on Spotify? I have not heard it on TikTok.

[jayhawk1117]

I think it's kinda incredible how fast Doja has blown up and is pretty close to a Household name. Imagine hearing Moo the first time and then knowing only THREE years later she has the record for most Daily WW streams for a female rapper, not Nicki Megan or Cardi but Doja Cat 💀.

[Caviar]

Because she’s a pop star who happens to be a good rapper!

[𝕡𝕙𝕖𝕖𝕓𝕤]

Aug 17, 2021 22:28:29 GMT -5 pancakes said:

Why is Steve Lacy’s Dark Red gaining on Spotify? I have not heard it on TikTok.

It's been used in 40k TikToks. Songs can blow up on TikTok and completely miss people because the algorithm can make each person's FYP look so different.

[suzcruz7]

Aug 17, 2021 19:32:12 GMT -5 kcdawg13 said:

Aug 17, 2021 19:27:18 GMT -5 chartfreak said:

I have to say I'm really surprised and shocked at Doja's stability on streaming.

I think Doja's stability comes from the fact that she's one of the only female pop stars that is cool to straight dudes, and straight white dudes especially. Like not just "guilty pleasure," but straight dudes actually don't feel bad about listening to her and have no shame telling people they listen to her. At least in my circle of friends that's how it is.

I love Doja but man that's so sad. Imagine being embarrassed to like music just because it's performed by a woman.

Like I don't have some sort of identity crisis when I listen to Radiohead even though I'm outside their main audience demographic. Because Thom Yorke having a Y Chromosome doesn't make the music sound less good.

[nathanalbright]

I would hope most of us like what we like.

[fridayteenage]

Aug 17, 2021 20:16:31 GMT -5 gikem said:

I would have never guessed that Doja Cat, a mixed-race, openly-bisexual female rapper, would appeal heavily to straight white dudes. I suppose I can see it if they're in the Gen Z demographic and know her songs from TikTok, but I find that really interesting.

i don't think people know her sexuality? i didn't hear anyone talk about it until this post right now.
and her being half white surely is helpful not a deterrent.
also, she's somewhere between pop and rap which is helpful. poppy enough to get radio on board, rap enough to be 'cool.'

[kcdawg13]

I think it's also because Doja is more online than your average pop star, she's a lot like Lil Nas X where she utilizes social media and platforms like TikTok to push memes and "relatable" videos. She markets herself pretty good to a Gen Z audience.

[HamedM1 💔]

Doja definitely has the best media presence and the good thing is that she doesn't act problematic for the most part unlike some of her peers

Between her, Megan, and Lizzo the female rap game is evolving and all three have achieved a great deal in terms of having an image and online presence. We love to see them all winning.

[nathanalbright]

It's best when they don't tear each other down and just make good music.

[𝕡𝕙𝕖𝕖𝕓𝕤]

Aug 17, 2021 22:58:47 GMT -5 suzcruz7 said:

Aug 17, 2021 19:32:12 GMT -5 kcdawg13 said:

I think Doja's stability comes from the fact that she's one of the only female pop stars that is cool to straight dudes, and straight white dudes especially. Like not just "guilty pleasure," but straight dudes actually don't feel bad about listening to her and have no shame telling people they listen to her. At least in my circle of friends that's how it is.

I love Doja but man that's so sad. Imagine being embarrassed to like music just because it's performed by a woman.

Like I don't have some sort of identity crisis when I listen to Radiohead even though I'm outside their main audience demographic. Because Thom Yorke having a Y Chromosome doesn't make the music sound less good.

My brother said he doesn't listen to female rappers because they don't sound "hard". Recently, I learned he loves "Stay With Me / Mayonaka No Door" by Miki Matsubara. I didn't know this before because he doesn't play it out loud, only on headphones. He admitted he also likes Mary J. Blige. He said he liked a few verses by Foxy Brown in ~2019, but denies he ever said that now in 2021.

I feel partially bad for him and partially annoyed as shit over it. Like, the patriarchy is super harmful, but also fucking get over your sexist self. Put your big boy pants on, y'know?

[singingrulebritannia]

Aug 17, 2021 22:28:29 GMT -5 pancakes said:

Why is Steve Lacy’s Dark Red gaining on Spotify? I have not heard it on TikTok.

I think it started blowing up when he appeared on the last Donda stream

[fridayteenage]

Aug 17, 2021 23:31:29 GMT -5 HamedM1 💔 said:

Doja definitely has the best media presence and the good thing is that she doesn't act problematic for the most part unlike some of her peers

" I've said male who is into other malesgot roughly like 15 thousand times in my life" - Doja Cat.

[jthentic]

Aug 17, 2021 23:31:29 GMT -5 HamedM1 💔 said:

Doja definitely has the best media presence and the good thing is that she doesn't act problematic for the most part unlike some of her peers

Between her, Megan, and Lizzo the female rap game is evolving and all three have achieved a great deal in terms of having an image and online presence. We love to see them all winning.

Not problematic? Hasn't she made several Homophobic & racist comments in da past? & never gave an apology? One such gems 👇

Also she's hella rude to her fans & her fans are probably worst bunch you can find on da net they don't go a day without making derogatory comment on someone(how do I know? My cousin is of of em 🙃)
But u know what she'll get a pass coz she doesn't fit da profile for online witch trails

[dremolus - solarpunk]

US Spotify - 08/16/21

1(=) The Kid LAROI - STAY 2,037,133 (+56,990)
2(=) Lil Nas X - INDUSTRY BABY 1,642,253 (+37,302)
3(=) Olivia Rodrigo - good 4 u 1,186,849 (+13,437)
4(+1) Billie Eilish - Happier Than Ever 1,149,771 (+75,967)
5(-1) Doja Cat - Need to Know 1,137,035 (+50,623)
6(+1) Lizzo - Rumors 961,168 (+44,279)
7(-1) Doja Cat - Kiss Me More 926,377 (-5,344)
8(=) Sleepy Hallow - 2055 784,761 (+17,541)
9(+1) Ed Sheeran - Bad Habits 777,666 (+28,984)
10(-1) Lil Nas X - MONTERO (Call Me By Your Name) 758,464 (-21,018)

Others:
11(=) Glass Animals - Heat Waves 745,791 (+9,231)
12(+3) The Weeknd - Take My Breath 694,398 (+21,183)
13(=) Måneskin - Beggin' 693,234 (+6,425)
14(=) Doja Cat - Ain't Shit 687,675 (+11,129)
15(+2) Olivia Rodrigo - traitor 679,035 (+26,509)
16(-4) Dua Lipa - Levitating 678,086 (-21,018)
17(-1) Polo G - RAPSTAR 649,924 (-3,352)
18(=) Olivia Rodrigo - deja vu 637,919 (+18,279)
19(=) Doja Cat - Woman 568,859 (+22,324)
20(+1) Farruko - Pepas 521,173 (+5,705)
21(+3) Post Malone - Motley Crew 516,213 (+30,021)
22(-2) Justin Bieber - Peaches 508,404 (-22,110)
23(=) Megan Thee Stallion - Thot Shit 503,499 (-2,979)
24(-2) Walker Hayes - Fancy Like 502,526 (-12,424)
25(+2) Doja Cat - Get Into It (Yuh) 499,483 (+36,860)
27(-1) Aventura, Bad Bunny - Volví 495,741 (+25,266)
29(+1) Surf Curse - Freaks 453,553 (+10,927)
30(+1) The Weeknd - Save Your Tears Remix 437,007 (-2,532)
31(-2) Bruno Mars, Anderson .Paak, Silk Sonic - Leave the Door Open 434,626 (-10,660)
32(=) Olivia Rodrigo - favorite crime 430,036 (+20,025)
33(+4) Steve Lacy - Dark Red 413,663 (+21,608)
36(-2) Bad Bunny - Yonaguni 402,863 (+969)
37(+2) The Kid LAROI - NOT SOBER 402,461 (+18,861)
38(-2) Lil Tecca - REPEAT IT 399,894 (-1,887)
39(-1) Doja Cat, The Weeknd - You Right 399,728 (+11,853)
41(+4) Smiley - Over the Top 389,044 (+18,884)
42(+1) Olivia Rodrigo - happier 387,885 (+15,611)
43(+9) Sueco - Paralyzed 384,310 (+37,330)
45(-1) DJ Khaled - EVERY CHANCE I GET 383,361 (+11,783)
47(=) PinkPantheress - Pain 379,304 (+13,942)
48(+1) Giveon - Heartbreak Anniversary 377,636 (+16,953)
52(+4) YNW Melly - Mind of Melvin 362,860 (+24,095)
53(-2) Jack Harlow, Pooh Shiesty - SUVs (Black on Black) 362,488 (+9,653)
54(=) Machine Gun Kelly - papercuts 357,021 (+11,635)
56(+1) Tai Verdes - A-O-K 348,431 (+10,780)
57(-2) Måneskin - I WANNA BE YOUR SLAVE 344,695 (+5,437)
58(+2) A-Wall - Loverboy 341,951 (+13,936)
60(+1) BTS - Butter 338,139 (+12,803)
61(-2) DaBaby - Ball If I Want To 334,890 (+6,865)
63(+3) Marshmello - Leave Before You Love Me 328,732 (+18,956)
67(+11) PinkPantheress - Just for me 315,789 (+29,244)
75(+2) Tyler the Creator - WUSYANAME 298,050 (+10,031)
77(-3) Bruno Mars, Anderson .Paak, Silk Sonic - Skate 292,824 (-673)
80(+12) Billie Eilish - NDA 280,972 (+18,719)
84(-2) Dan + Shay - Glad You Exist 281,441 (-45,997)
85(+12) Lil Baby, Lil Durk - Hats Off 277,229 (+18,839)
88(+3) Yot Club - YKWIM? 275,610 (+13,185)
89(+10) Camila Cabello - Don't Go Yet 274,416 (+17,764)
90(+16) Nessa Barrett - i hope ur miserable until ur dead 270,983 (+24,109)
96(+2) Roddy Ricch - Late At Night 264,255 (+6,844)

103(+6) BTS - Permission to Dance 253,434 (+13,055)
104(-2) Nio Garcia, J Balvin, Bad Bunny - AM Remix 251,714 (+1,783)
113(-6) BIA - WHOLE LOTTA MONEY Remix 243,487 (-1,982)
114(+1) The Weeknd - Save Your Tears 243,009 (+6,103)
118(+6) Beach House - Space Song 238,071 (+9,357)
122(+9) $uicideboy$ - Materialism as a Means to an End 235,743 (+13,210)
125(+17) Sheff G - On Go 233,411 (+18,674)
131(+24) blackbear - @ my worst 231,750 (+23,349)
135(-8) MoneyBagg Yo - Wockesha 228,137 (+1,183)
145(+3) Dua Lipa - Love Again 218,911 (+6,706)
146(+13) Elton John, Dua Lipa - Cold Heart (PNAU Remix) 218,911 (+12,100)
147(+10) Jordan Davis, Luke Bryan - Buy Dirt 218,183 (+11,022)
160(debut) Celeste - Strange 209,606 
167(+8) Jason Aldean, Carrie Underwood - If I Didn't Love You 207,220 (+9,036)
168(-3) Normani - Wild Side 206,980 (+2,194)
174(-1) Blxst, Tyga - Chosen 205,744 (+6,748)
175(-25) Elle King, Miranda Lambert - Drunk (And I Don't Wanna Go Home) 205,432 (-6,376)
176(-46) WizKid - Essence Remix 204,608 (-20,335)
182(+14) Duncan Laurence - Arcade 201,306 (+10,046)

Total Streams for Save Your Tears: 680,016

Biggest Gains (50K+): Need to Know, Happier Than Ever, STAY

[After Minutes]

Aug 17, 2021 20:16:31 GMT -5 gikem said:

I would have never guessed that Doja Cat, a mixed-race, openly-bisexual female rapper, would appeal heavily to straight white dudes. I suppose I can see it if they're in the Gen Z demographic and know her songs from TikTok, but I find that really interesting.

I think it might just be that she's hot

[jenglisbe]

Aug 14, 2021 22:50:18 GMT -5 lurker2 said:

Levitating doesn't quite feel like the biggest to me, even though it was by the metrics. I guess it was just cause I don't listen to radio, and it was biggest there (although obv still huge on streaming and sales). For me the biggest feeling was probably G4U.

"Levitating" was also never truly huge at one specific point, and we all know in terms of the charts its biggest asset is longevity. I think longevity is tougher to 'feel' than something that is huge in a moment. (Not to say "g4u" hasn't had longevity, but it clearly had a huge specific peak and has been declining, whereas "L" has been generally popular for a long time.)

[bbdenney94]

Aug 17, 2021 23:39:26 GMT -5 𝕡𝕙𝕖𝕖𝕓𝕤 said:

Aug 17, 2021 22:58:47 GMT -5 suzcruz7 said:

I love Doja but man that's so sad. Imagine being embarrassed to like music just because it's performed by a woman.

Like I don't have some sort of identity crisis when I listen to Radiohead even though I'm outside their main audience demographic. Because Thom Yorke having a Y Chromosome doesn't make the music sound less good.

My brother said he doesn't listen to female rappers because they don't sound "hard". Recently, I learned he loves "Stay With Me / Mayonaka No Door" by Miki Matsubara. I didn't know this before because he doesn't play it out loud, only on headphones. He admitted he also likes Mary J. Blige. He said he liked a few verses by Foxy Brown in ~2019, but denies he ever said that now in 2021.

I feel partially bad for him and partially annoyed as s**t over it. Like, the patriarchy is super harmful, but also f**king get over your sexist self. Put your big boy pants on, y'know?

I was NOT expecting that song to appear in this thread. Did it blow up on tiktok in the past?

[Groovy]

Did anyone notice the cover art for Bad Habits changed? It was Ed as a vampire but now it’s a cocoon or butterfly wings.

[iamsorare]

Aug 18, 2021 8:27:56 GMT -5 Groovy said:

Did anyone notice the cover art for Bad Habits changed? It was Ed as a vampire but now it’s a cocoon or butterfly wings.

something is coming... announcement soon

[rainygirl]

Aug 18, 2021 1:25:33 GMT -5 jthentic said:

Aug 17, 2021 23:31:29 GMT -5 HamedM1 💔 said:

Doja definitely has the best media presence and the good thing is that she doesn't act problematic for the most part unlike some of her peers

Between her, Megan, and Lizzo the female rap game is evolving and all three have achieved a great deal in terms of having an image and online presence. We love to see them all winning.

Not problematic? Hasn't she made several Homophobic & racist comments in da past? & never gave an apology? One such gems 👇

Also she's hella rude to her fans & her fans are probably worst bunch you can find on da net they don't go a day without making derogatory comment on someone(how do I know? My cousin is of of em 🙃)
But u know what she'll get a pass coz she doesn't fit da profile for online witch trails

not to mention her questionable chats in some white supremacist chat rooms

[algo]

won't speak on the other stuff but doja is queer herself so i take no issue with her saying the f slur, to each their own though

[thegreatdivine]

Aug 18, 2021 8:27:56 GMT -5 Groovy said:

Did anyone notice the cover art for Bad Habits changed? It was Ed as a vampire but now it’s a cocoon or butterfly wings.

http://instagram.com/p/CStiNLYlSZs

I'm guessing album release date/second single announcement.

[spiritboy]

Looking forward to it. Hope it'll be the album announcement.

[code]

I don't think doja/lizzo's accomplishments are as impressive as cardi/meg who rap 2 or 3 verses on every song + a rapping chorus