wjr15
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Post by wjr15 on Sept 10, 2021 14:30:04 GMT -5
Stream “Harleys In Hawaii” while reading this thread.
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Sept 10, 2021 14:31:46 GMT -5
Considering Christina had the voice, the material, and the personality and she was still outdone by plain-voiced Katy, I’d say Katy is the easy answer here. Her songs might not never have reached the depth as Stripped-era Christina, or the range as Back to Basics, she still had the pop culture impact that surpasses Christina’s and she did all that with a portion of Christina’s vocal ability.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2021 14:58:28 GMT -5
Katy Puurry and her thick voice but only because she did more with what she was given. Now if she had even 5% the personality maybe people would be invested in her to care beyond the hits she would still be slaying. No SHADE but pop fans aren't like country fans they want the big voice, the gowns the drama and the laughs and Katy Perry unlike Carrie Underwood-Fisher isn't being propped up by boring country fans I think its obvious Christianity is the better overall vocal talent in that she can charge herself up like hurricane to get those big loud notes out but singing should be effortless see the greats. http://instagr.am/p/CTkYAZHj_qE Christina would absolutely wipe out Mariah in a vocal match up today. Mariah’s voice is no longer what it used to be and that’s on facts. youtu.be/YABbKNbT-ywAnd she is still Mariah THEE Carey and that's on facts. Icon, legend, the voice, the songwriter. You just can't come for a legend . See you in Christmas booboo!
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Post by jenglisbe on Sept 10, 2021 15:02:44 GMT -5
My bad, I shouldn't have included "Hurt" since it doesn't fall under your category of "early 2000s female pop." I didn't prove your point since taking "Hurt" out actually makes Christina look worse. My inclusion helped her. Updated list of YouTube views for Britney and Christina solo singles from 1999-2004 that have over 100 million views: "Baby One More Time" - 646 million views "Toxic" - 529 million views "Oops! I Did It Again" - 334 million views "Sometimes" - 218 million views "Genie In A Bottle" - 181 million views"You Drive Me Crazy" - 151 million views "I'm A Slave 4 U" - 150 million views "Dirrty" - 145 million views"Lucky" - 142 million views "Everytime" - 140 million views "I'm Not A Girl..." - 134 million views "Beautiful" - 131 million"Stronger" - 127 million views "Overprotected" - 120 million views "Can't Hold Us Down" - 116 million views "Fighter" - 100 million viewsSo to sum it up, Britney released 4 albums between 1999-2003, and has 11 singles with over 100 million. Christina released 2 albums during this time period, and has 5 singles over 100 million (plus Lady Marmamade). So what point are you proving exactly? That Britney has twice as much singles after releasing twice as much albums? Lol you are a trip. As I've said before, YOU made the contention that Stripped is streamed more than "early 2000s female pop." I was simply providing stats from that time. If you want to get real specific, Oops I Did it Again the album has more Spotify streams than Stripped the album. Make of that what you will.
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Post by die Lotterie on Sept 10, 2021 15:10:12 GMT -5
Considering Christina had the voice, the material, and the personality and she was still outdone by plain-voiced Katy, I’d say Katy is the easy answer here. Her songs might not never have reached the depth as Stripped-era Christina, or the range as Back to Basics, she still had the pop culture impact that surpasses Christina’s and she did all that with a portion of Christina’s vocal ability. wut? lol.
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Post by degen on Sept 10, 2021 15:47:14 GMT -5
So to sum it up, Britney released 4 albums between 1999-2003, and has 11 singles with over 100 million. Christina released 2 albums during this time period, and has 5 singles over 100 million (plus Lady Marmamade). So what point are you proving exactly? That Britney has twice as much singles after releasing twice as much albums? Lol you are a trip. As I've said before, YOU made the contention that Stripped is streamed more than "early 2000s female pop." I was simply providing stats from that time. If you want to get real specific, Oops I Did it Again the album has more Spotify streams than Stripped the album. Make of that what you will. And it’s kinda weird that an album that went Diamond back in the day barely out streams an album that went 4x platinum. So again, this shows how well Christina’s music held up with half the push and half as much material. But go off.
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Post by jenglisbe on Sept 10, 2021 20:23:09 GMT -5
Lol you are a trip. As I've said before, YOU made the contention that Stripped is streamed more than "early 2000s female pop." I was simply providing stats from that time. If you want to get real specific, Oops I Did it Again the album has more Spotify streams than Stripped the album. Make of that what you will. And it’s kinda weird that an album that went Diamond back in the day barely out streams an album that went 4x platinum. So again, this shows how well Christina’s music held up with half the push and half as much material. But go off. Lol you made an incorrect claim and then when corrected on it still try to twist it. I go back to what dremolus - solarpunk wrote here.
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Post by elementd5 on Sept 12, 2021 16:32:45 GMT -5
Definitely Christina, because of her critical acclaim. Christina will always get invited to perform. Katy? Not so much. Like, 10 years from now, what exactly would cause Katy’s name to come up outside of chart statistics & nostalgia?
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Post by Au$tin on Sept 12, 2021 23:30:22 GMT -5
Considering Christina had the voice, the material, and the personality and she was still outdone by plain-voiced Katy, I’d say Katy is the easy answer here. Her songs might not never have reached the depth as Stripped-era Christina, or the range as Back to Basics, she still had the pop culture impact that surpasses Christina’s and she did all that with a portion of Christina’s vocal ability. wut? lol. Now, now, don't get confused. Max didn't say Christina's personality was particularly good, just that she had one that could be marketed well. Being a bitchy diva is still easily marketable. People eat that shit up.
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Post by wjr15 on Sept 13, 2021 7:11:01 GMT -5
Definitely Christina, because of her critical acclaim. Christina will always get invited to perform. Katy? Not so much. Like, 10 years from now, what exactly would cause Katy’s name to come up outside of chart statistics & nostalgia? I mean Katy was just invited earlier this year to perform at Joe Biden’s televised Inauguration event, sooo…
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