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Post by leoapp on Sept 20, 2021 6:51:44 GMT -5
Both male artists: - are two of the most successful non-rapper male artists in 2010s-2020s - started their breakthrough career in 2009-2010 era - have 8 Hot 100 No. 1s, and tons of top 10 hits - are favorite collaborators for other musicians - are still successful with no sign of commercial end, until this year
The difference: - Justin Bieber is a bigger celebrity, and surprisingly survives his teenage career. Despite massive haters and many people thought his career was over in 2013. - Bruno Mars ia a critic favorite, and successfully brings back retro R&B style, and makes it commercial.
But which one has actually made a bigger impact in music world?
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Post by leoapp on Sept 20, 2021 7:08:35 GMT -5
The way they are able to maintain their career up to 2021 is not easy. Good job for both.
Bruno has definitely made a huge impact in R&B community. His retro style is surprisingly commercial enough to (still) get loves in 2021. Although sometimes his sound could be predictable and monotonous.
But, i think Bieber has made a much bigger impact overall in music world. People doubted his adult music career. 2013 was when people counted him out. People believed his celebrity status would overshadow his career as a musician. But in 2021, Bieber ia still a thing, as a musician, not just a celebrity. He is also a chameleon who is capable to nail not only Pop/R&B sounds. He has collaborated with so many different musicians from different genres. Although he's probably more a hit and miss with his solo project, compared to Bruno.
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Post by jamatthews83 on Sept 20, 2021 7:57:38 GMT -5
Bruno Mars, and it's not even close.
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Post by 🇯🇲 lucy88 🇯🇲 on Sept 20, 2021 12:39:25 GMT -5
Bruno Mars, and it's not even close.
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Post by SHOOTER on Sept 20, 2021 12:52:32 GMT -5
Bruno Mars, and it's not even close.
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Post by Glove Slap on Sept 20, 2021 12:53:58 GMT -5
Bruno Mars, and it's not even close.
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Post by missgenericnickname on Oct 2, 2021 22:07:45 GMT -5
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Post by ificanthaveyou on Oct 3, 2021 16:52:09 GMT -5
Lol Justin has made an impact?
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Post by jdanton2 on Oct 3, 2021 18:16:12 GMT -5
Bruno makes quality music and does not jump on whatever the current trend is and gets played on multiple formats . Justin obviously does with collabs that gets him played on multiple formats
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Post by Choco on Oct 3, 2021 23:13:07 GMT -5
You know what...? Justin Bieber. Sold more, has more hits and has made a bigger name for himself worldwide. Of course, he can't resist the chance to jump on collabs and remixes for easy hits, and he's always following trends, not setting them. No one is gonna cite Justin Bieber as a creative inspiration in 10 years. But by spamming hit after hit he's easily a bigger brand and made a bigger impact than Bruno overall.
Creatively, yeah, Bruno is better. But that wasn't the question.
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Post by kimberly on Oct 3, 2021 23:41:40 GMT -5
Bruno makes better music but I agree with Choco. Bieber has a much larger footprint in the industry, simply because he's released significantly more music, toured more, and "inspired" more copycat artists. (perhaps because what Bieber does is easier to replicate.) his youtube origin story is also one of the early examples of social media as a talent scouting tool, which many would go on to follow, like Shawn Mendes and Doja Cat.
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Post by Enigma. on Oct 4, 2021 0:59:34 GMT -5
Obviously Bieber, while I like Bruno, he hasn't really created any pop culture phenomenons unlike Bieber who has tens of hit songs and a strong fanbase. He isn't very inspiring performer - has never been - but I think when he grows older and cuts the ties with Scooter (hopefullY) he'll find his voice even more.
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Post by Ling-Ling on Oct 4, 2021 9:46:12 GMT -5
I think Bruno is a better artist in every conceivable way, but I think Justin has had the bigger impact. From his teenie heartthrob days, to his headline grabbing shaky transition into adulthood, to becoming a massively successful adult star. He's just been in the public eye more and been more prolific.
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Post by Au$tin on Oct 4, 2021 18:45:00 GMT -5
Yo, a lot of you are blinded by your distaste in Bieber or love for Bruno. Bieber has had a massive impact on pop culture over the last 11/12 years, and I would absolutely say moreso than Bruno. Hell, Purpose alone started the tropical pop trend of the mid-2010s (albeit he was more a vessel than the actual trendsetter, but his name was still attached). That doesn't even take into account his impact in the early 2010s by just... existing. He was the first big musician, first big celebrity, to come from social media. Now there's a plethora of them. He paved that road for better or worse.
Bruno has been impactful as well, but I don't think it's even close. Remember, we're not talking about overall success here (I'd even argue Bieber still wins in that category) or music quality (Bruno, easily).
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Post by Private Dancer on Oct 5, 2021 7:25:54 GMT -5
Lol Justin has made an impact? Depends on who you ask, but no
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Post by Ernesto on Oct 5, 2021 8:38:38 GMT -5
Bruno Mars, without any hint of doubt.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2021 8:58:22 GMT -5
I prefer Bruno by far, but if we’re talking about influence and pop culture impact it’s Justin by far. A lot of that is Bruno’s own doing because he keeps a relatively low profile and so much of his music is about reviving old sounds rather than forging a new path in pop music.
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Oct 7, 2021 5:15:40 GMT -5
I mean as much as some of us don't like Justin Bieber (and I sure as hell don't): denying he hasn't made any impact is stupid.
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Oct 7, 2021 5:21:09 GMT -5
Lol Justin has made an impact? Depends on who you ask, but no I mean the man was responsible for Despacito becoming an international smash outside of the Latin market and which brought forth more success for reggaeton and other English-Spanish crossovers (and yes this happened before but it happening again is worth noting). Purpose is still one of the biggest and most successful pop albums of all time - from late 2015 to 2017, Justin Bieber was one of the biggest pop acts in the world. He's still helping other acts like WizKid and The Kid LAROI get hits. And he has maintained success for more than a decade at this point. I get it: he's not very good and he doesn't have personality, but like his music or not (and again, I don't): he's arguably made a bigger impact and has had more success than Bruno, and he's been just as if not even more influential.
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Post by Enigma. on Oct 7, 2021 6:53:08 GMT -5
The most interesting thing is, that while he has lots of hits, he has been a very uninspiring performer too. He can dance, but he mostly lip syncs, and on Purpose Tour he didn't really seemed like he wanted be on stage at all. It might have been just a phase, dunno.
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Post by Koochie on Oct 8, 2021 10:48:48 GMT -5
I'm actually floored people think it's Bruno lol. Like, were y'all just totally checked out in the '10s?
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Post by Choco on Oct 8, 2021 11:05:48 GMT -5
I'm kinda happy the results are slowly turning around lol.
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Post by leoapp on Oct 8, 2021 13:33:07 GMT -5
It's almost a tie breaker. Very interesting... So, i believe some Bieber haters still voted for him. Fair...
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Post by back2blk on Oct 9, 2021 11:09:41 GMT -5
Y'all are talking about this as if it has been an even playing field. Bruno wouldn't be able to get away with half the headlines Justin is known for that have contributed to his "celebrity" status, and you have Justin's white privilege to thank for that.
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Post by degen on Oct 9, 2021 14:30:22 GMT -5
Bieber is the bigger star and more successful. Bruno doesn’t even have half the material to make this a fair comparison.
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Post by Koochie on Oct 9, 2021 14:44:16 GMT -5
Y'all are talking about this as if it has been an even playing field. Bruno wouldn't be able to get away with half the headlines Justin is known for that have contributed to his "celebrity" status, and you have Justin's white privilege to thank for that. Of course, but that wasn’t what the question asked. That’s more of a problem with the question itself than how people are answering it.
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Post by back2blk on Oct 9, 2021 14:54:52 GMT -5
Y'all are talking about this as if it has been an even playing field. Bruno wouldn't be able to get away with half the headlines Justin is known for that have contributed to his "celebrity" status, and you have Justin's white privilege to thank for that. Of course, but that wasn’t what the question asked. That’s more of a problem with the question itself than how people are answering it. Then I’m happy to be the first to throw two cents in, cause it’s a big part of this conversation.
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Oct 9, 2021 21:22:25 GMT -5
Of course, but that wasn’t what the question asked. That’s more of a problem with the question itself than how people are answering it. Then I’m happy to be the first to throw two cents in, cause it’s a big part of this conversation. Bieber's antics shouldn't be overshadowed by the real impact he's had on the music industry. Again, I don't like him but denying the impact he's created just because of his stupid antics is pretty short-sighted.
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Post by degen on Oct 10, 2021 16:26:16 GMT -5
Y'all are talking about this as if it has been an even playing field. Bruno wouldn't be able to get away with half the headlines Justin is known for that have contributed to his "celebrity" status, and you have Justin's white privilege to thank for that. To be fair, most of the s**t that Bieber did in the past he was young and immature. As a public figure he’s done a terrific turnaround. His image now is all positivity and promoting spirituality. It’s genuine growth. It’s not like this redemption was just handed to him. There have been a lot of stars, regardless of race, that have had similar trajectories. This entire comparison is odd to me anyway because Bruno isn’t nearly as high profile on that front. He is not a pop star on the caliber of Bieber. He’s kind of just in his own lane.
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Post by back2blk on Oct 10, 2021 17:14:53 GMT -5
Y'all are talking about this as if it has been an even playing field. Bruno wouldn't be able to get away with half the headlines Justin is known for that have contributed to his "celebrity" status, and you have Justin's white privilege to thank for that. To be fair, most of the s**t that Bieber did in the past he was young and immature. As a public figure he’s done a terrific turnaround. His image now is all positivity and promoting spirituality. It’s genuine growth. It’s not like this redemption was just handed to him. There have been a lot of stars, regardless of race, that have had similar trajectories. This entire comparison is odd to me anyway because Bruno isn’t nearly as high profile on that front. He is not a pop star on the caliber of Bieber. He’s kind of just in his own lane. The "shit" or the "antics" (that a poster above described) he's done is criminal activity. Sigh. To be a rich white man in this country.
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