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Post by Private Dancer on Oct 5, 2021 10:57:02 GMT -5
I know she crosses over to adult/pop sometimes, but most off her songs where country hits. How did she sell so much with just the country genre. I don't think any other country artists where selling that much. I truly don't understand how Come On Over scanned over 40 MILLION ALBUMS! Was the album THAT good?
Also, anyone who was alive during the Shnaia Twain era did she feel like a huge star or a star who was only on the lane of country music?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2021 11:05:26 GMT -5
I know she crosses over to adult/pop sometimes, but most off her songs where country hits. How did she sell so much with just the country genre. I don't think any other country artists where selling that much. I truly don't understand how Come On Over scanned over 40 MILLION ALBUMS! Was the album THAT good? Also, anyone who was alive during the Shnaia Twain era did she feel like a huge star or a star who was only on the lane of country music? Garth Brooks had zero crossover hits... First album is 10x Platinum, second is 18x Platinum, third is 14x Platinum, fourth and fifth are both 10x, and he had another 10x and a few several x Platinum released in the 90s too. He's one of the best-selling acts of all time in the US. Like Garth, Shania was a huge star in the 90s.. and she had crossover hits from Come On Over too. |
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Post by Private Dancer on Oct 5, 2021 11:10:59 GMT -5
I know she crosses over to adult/pop sometimes, but most off her songs where country hits. How did she sell so much with just the country genre. I don't think any other country artists where selling that much. I truly don't understand how Come On Over scanned over 40 MILLION ALBUMS! Was the album THAT good? Also, anyone who was alive during the Shnaia Twain era did she feel like a huge star or a star who was only on the lane of country music? Garth Brooks had zero crossover hits... First album is 10x Platinum, second is 18x Platinum, third is 14x Platinum, fourth and fifth are both 10x, and he had another 10x and a few several x Platinum released in the 90s too. He's one of the best-selling acts of all time in the US. Like Garth, Shania was a huge star in the 90s.. and she had crossover hits from Come On Over too. I forgot about Garth! He was throwing out huge sellers left and right! 5 diamond albums???? How??? |
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Oct 5, 2021 11:44:28 GMT -5
Not to be that guy but second and third* albums.
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Post by Au$tin on Oct 5, 2021 11:53:38 GMT -5
Not to be that guy but second, third, and fourth! They're all diamond.
But yeah Shania was just a massive undeniable star at the time. Much like how Adele now transcends generations and genres, as did Shania in the late 90s/early 00s. You can see that today still with the amount of people from all walks of life that respect the hell out of her. Lest we not forget Post Malone jamming to Man I Feel Like a Woman and it's overuse of punctuation.
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Post by God on Oct 5, 2021 14:19:13 GMT -5
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Post by #LisaRinna on Oct 8, 2021 16:04:53 GMT -5
Not to be that guy but second and third* albums. nnn jingle teas |
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Oct 8, 2021 16:06:39 GMT -5
Not to be that guy but second and third* albums. nnn jingle teas Noooo dooooooont |
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Post by JOJO SIWA DERANGEMENT SYNDROME on Oct 8, 2021 16:20:08 GMT -5
Shania was just that huge at the time. Most of her singles had crossover/Pop remix versions for the other formats to play. Her music had wide appeal outside of the Country world to a variety of demographics.
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Post by #LisaRinna on Oct 8, 2021 16:21:16 GMT -5
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Post by onebuffalo on Oct 8, 2021 17:26:57 GMT -5
Technically, Shania Twain released her debut album in 1993, so the albums in question would be the next two.
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Post by Gary on Oct 8, 2021 18:01:45 GMT -5
Fun fact - Shania's debut was a nig enough of a flop that it never charted on the BB200
It wasn't until 1996 after 'The Woman In Me' became a smash that the debut made the catalog chart
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Oct 8, 2021 21:00:52 GMT -5
Technically, Shania Twain released her debut album in 1993, so the albums in question would be the next two. I already said that! Then #LisaRinna made fun of me :( |
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Post by #LisaRinna on Oct 9, 2021 4:38:41 GMT -5
Technically, Shania Twain released her debut album in 1993, so the albums in question would be the next two. I already said that! Then #LisaRinna made fun of me :( I did not! You know I love you Maxy! |
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Post by forg on Oct 9, 2021 8:11:08 GMT -5
You're Still The One and From This Moment On are MASSIVE hits.
I was just a kid back then but she was all over radio and my sister bought a tape of Come On Over!
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Post by slowmo on Oct 10, 2021 21:26:14 GMT -5
She was just on a run of massive hit after massive hit that you couldn't escape from. And the videos were played all the time on several stations. Let's also not discount her sex appeal and how the songs/albums and videos meshed everything together perfectly at that time.
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Post by divasummer on Oct 11, 2021 15:33:13 GMT -5
I also think her second album sold more when her third crossed over if I remember correctly.
Yes it was huge but I think when she started crossing over it kept it afloat.
Her next album “Up” sold very well but not like the prior two.
Pop wasn’t as interested and Country wasn’t as interested because she had crossed over so much.
I think I’m remembering it correctly..
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Post by Au$tin on Oct 11, 2021 22:49:39 GMT -5
I also think her second album sold more when her third crossed over if I remember correctly. Yes it was huge but I think when she started crossing over it kept it afloat. Her next album “Up” sold very well but not like the prior two. Pop wasn’t as interested and Country wasn’t as interested because she had crossed over so much. I think I’m remembering it correctly.. I don't know about The Woman in Me's situation, but it wouldn't surprise me at all if it continued to sell like hotcakes through Come on Over's run simply because of how incredibly massive she was. Sort of like how Taylor Swift's past albums come back to the upper regions of the charts when she releases something or how Adele's 21 and 25 are already charting again ahead of her new music. As for Up, yeah the singles weren't nearly as big as the singles from the two prior albums. The album also didn't sell as much either, but it still sold a ton. I haven't seen updates sales figures for it in awhile, but it's gotta be somewhere around Life After Death/Fearless at this point. Well, maybe not Fearless anymore. Or maybe so? Have the sales for the original Fearless plummeted after the TV release? Anyway, off track ramble over, it definitely holds it own, but it's far from The Woman in Me (which is somewhere around 25's figures, roughly 1.75 times more than Up) and especially Come on Over (like the 8th or 9th best selling album in the US of all time?? Like 3x Up's numbers). Damn Come on Over was a beast lol. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2021 4:21:51 GMT -5
The success of Come On Over definitely boosted The Woman In Me. The latter was 9x Platinum prior to the release of Come On Over (so already huge) and then was 12x Platinum by 2000 (hasn't been certified since). I don't think the Soundscan figures are entirely accurate because of its music club sales and Soundscan not counting those. Her debut didn't get as much of a boost (was Gold prior to the release of Come On Over and then was certified Platinum in 1999). Up has sold around 5.5M in the US (it's 11x Platinum because its a double album), so it was a major decline in sales from Come On Over (which is 20x Platinum.. again, Soundscan figures likely underestimate how much its sold in total due to music club sales, but they have it at around 16M).
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Post by jenglisbe on Oct 12, 2021 8:55:12 GMT -5
The Woman In Me was huge, but almost entirely within the country genre. But as has been said, Garth Brooks was able to sell that much or more off country-only hits. It should also be noted The [Dixie] Chicks also went 13x and 11x Platinum with their first two albums without having a crossover hit, so I think it's more that people underestimated the potential of country music. Keep in mind how much better country artists did on the Billboard 200 after Soundscan was put in place; it showed that record stores were underestimating what country audiences were doing for them.
Because Come on Over then had crossover hits as well, it did what TWIM did and brought in pop audiences, too. Shania had four singles that did well enough with Top 40 audiences.
Up! was a marked drop in sales from COO for sure. It didn't have any real crossover hits, but even so it didn't match what TWIM had done either. Perhaps Shania fatigue had set in. It still sold well on the whole, though.
Shania also benefitted from her albums really being worked. Didn't TWIM have 7-8 singles at country radio? COO had 10-11 singles! Lmao, it's absurd in a way, but also impressive. Up! had a lot, too.
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Post by Ling-Ling on Oct 12, 2021 11:39:24 GMT -5
The COO era was ridiculous. She worked the hell out of that album, a dozen singles over three years. She catered to Country, Pop, AC, Dance, etc. And her success internationally with that album was even more astounding, given that country artists didn't usually sell that well overseas. She was smart to release different mixes to different countries and formats. Non-stop performances/promo, glossy fun videos. And of course it didn't hurt that the music was incredibly catchy.
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Post by degen on Oct 12, 2021 19:45:53 GMT -5
The COO era reminds me a lot of Katy Perry’s “Teenage Dream” era but with an interwoven country audience to help it even more. Just the right combination of hit songs/imagery that would make the eras popular in karaoke bars across the country. Ironically both Shania and Katy played up big time on that “All-American girl” persona (which is ironic because Shania is Canadian). Theres something wide appealing about that. I’d imagine today an era like that would’ve had multiple #1 singles, and she probably could’ve done it with ease. Those videos from that era were iconic and would’ve helped on the Billboard Hot 100.
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Post by bat1990 on Oct 12, 2021 20:08:51 GMT -5
^Speaking of that, did MTV audience impressions count toward Hot 100 airplay? I feel like the answer is no, but I know Mediabase tracked audience impressions on the video channels.
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Post by degen on Oct 12, 2021 20:14:18 GMT -5
^Speaking of that, did MTV audience impressions count toward Hot 100 airplay? I feel like the answer is no, but I know Mediabase tracked audience impressions on the video channels. I don’t think so. But imagine if the COO era had YouTube to assist it. Many of the singles off it would’ve certainly hit #1 I feel like. |
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