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Post by leoapp on Oct 5, 2021 12:00:32 GMT -5
2 of the most successful R&B musicians of the 90s... chart-wise and critic-wise
One of them scored one of the biggest R&B ballads ever, was infamous for her lower register, probably the best lower register among female musicians? As well a sexy but classy style. She released 2 successful albums in the 90, and a moderately successful one in 2000, but quickly faded in early 2000s, despite releasing some albums, although did quite well on R&B chart.
The other one (ironically) only released 1 studio album to date, followed by a hated/critisized Unplugged album. Her only studio album however is still among the most praised debut albums ever. She was also a part of A successful hip hop group before going solo. But with only 1 studio album, somehow many other musicians cite her as an inspiration.
Who has the most impact in music world?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2021 12:08:48 GMT -5
Lauryn
There are far more acts and hits that I would say are clearly and directly influenced by Lauryn Hill than I can say for Toni. Lauryn really paved a unique path in the mainstream with the rap/reggae/retro-soul hybrid, whereas Toni was sort of like a hybrid between Anita Baker and Babyface with an updated sound for the era she was big in (moreso toward the latter half of the 90s/early 00s). Not a knock on Toni at all, because I've always been a big fan of hers but Lauryn and The Score and The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill had far more influence on music than anything Toni released.
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Oct 5, 2021 12:14:14 GMT -5
I mean even today, someone my age or even younger could probably name a Lauryn Hill song or something from the Fugees. Can't really say the same for Toni Braxton
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Post by back2blk on Oct 5, 2021 12:25:14 GMT -5
A more fun question would be whose career would you rather have - cause both have had the WORST time with the business aspect of their music.
That being said, Lauryn was truly one of a kind. She could have been the Aretha of my generation.
Toni is in my top R&B artists of all time, but she essentially made other people's work shine bright. I take nothing away from Toni's voice, look, material, and contribution to R&B, cause she was truly a force.
But, I think Lauryn was/is a vessel.
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Post by Private Dancer on Oct 5, 2021 12:57:21 GMT -5
First of Lauryn Hill and Toni Braxton have different styles and styles don't understand why they are being compared...Contemporary R&B vs Rap/R&B
Lauryn Hill obviously has more impact, because she is a first and gave the most artistically creative albums of all ttime. She is also the first female rapper to do a lot of things and she broke barriers with just one album. Also, she writes and produces her material. Also, throughout the years her work has been talked about constantly. She has done a lot for hip hop and is greatly appreciated across all genres.
On the other hand, Toni Braxton is a legend on the R&B/Urban community. Her first album was and is a game changer for R&B. People still refer to her first album as one of the most defining R&B albums of the 90s. Not to mention, her 2nd album gave Un-Break My Heart and she had the 2nd best selling physical song by a black female artist. Her third album, The Heat, also is still referred to within the R&B/urban community. She was literally shooting multiple hit records. All in all, Toni Braxton is one of the artists where her legacy and impact may be quiet, but it is still known and felt. Not to mention she has 2 diamond eligible albums (if Arista would certificate her records she would have 2 DIAMOND albums), and has sold 70 million records worldwide with just three hit albums. Not to mention, when she "retired" from music, a lot of people were upset and other celebs were persuading her not to. Many people want a Toni Braxton verzuz but she doesn't want it. I think now Toni Braxton legacy has more appreciation than it did years ago.
Both are great, but are in different lanes.
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Post by Troublemaker on Oct 5, 2021 15:28:39 GMT -5
Even Toni would say Lauryn…
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Post by Ling-Ling on Oct 5, 2021 15:41:34 GMT -5
If you would have asked me ten/twenty years ago, I'd probably say Lauryn. But due to their messy careers after their peaks, I think they're pretty even at this point. Lauryn had one of those once in a generation classic level albums. But Toni had some massive hits that kind of tower over her in the mainstream.
I give the edge to Lauryn though. Mainly for Sister Act 2 and proving that singing does in fact put food on the table.
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Post by leoapp on Oct 5, 2021 20:38:36 GMT -5
I have to say Lauryn...The Score and her only solo album are enough to give her a much bigger impact despite Toni has scored some bigger hits.
But, Toni is indeed too underrated. One of the best R&B soloists ever... seeing how hard she tried to comeback after The Heat era, multiple times and still failed... And she still loves making music..so sad
Lauryn in the other hand isn't productive at all...
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Post by cjay on Oct 6, 2021 1:17:31 GMT -5
What kind of comparison is this?!!! These two should never be compared. But here we are. I think Lauryn has more impact. But overall Toni's music resonates with me more.
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Post by 🇯🇲 lucy88 🇯🇲 on Oct 6, 2021 7:00:31 GMT -5
What kind of comparison is this?!!! These two should never be compared. But here we are. I think Lauryn has more impact. But overall Toni's music resonates with me more. Agreed! I also prefer Toni's music over Lauryn. |
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Post by The Black Bird on Oct 6, 2021 8:09:55 GMT -5
What kind of comparison is this?!!! These two should never be compared. But here we are. I think Lauryn has more impact. But overall Toni's music resonates with me more. Agreed! I also prefer Toni's music over Lauryn. Yes, Toni overall music is better imo, but Lauryn definitely had the biggest impact with her only solo album. Actually, I guess Lauryn having just one album actually helps her "legacy" at this point. |
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Post by degen on Oct 6, 2021 13:47:16 GMT -5
Lauryn. Even looking outside her solo projects, her music with the Fugees is still wildly popular in the R&B/hip hop genre. Overall she made a much more lasting impact. Shout out to her role in Sister Act 2 as well.
Not to downplay Toni’s success, but a lot of it feels very dated and very 90s. “Un-break My Heart” is one of those timeless songs though.
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Post by chanman on Oct 6, 2021 17:18:30 GMT -5
Lauryn. Even looking outside her solo projects, her music with the Fugees is still wildly popular in the R&B/hip hop genre. Overall she made a much more lasting impact. Shout out to her role in Sister Act 2 as well. Not to downplay Toni’s success, but a lot of it feels very dated and very 90s. “Un-break My Heart” is one of those timeless songs though. You make 90's sound like blah, even Lauryn sounds dated ......I play more Toni Braxton especially "You're Making Me High" |
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Post by cjay on Oct 6, 2021 18:40:43 GMT -5
In addition to Unbreakmy heart, Breathe Again, you mean the world to me, you're making me high, let it flow, and He Wasn't Man Enough are other timeless Toni songs. I still here these songs a lot.
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Post by Private Dancer on Oct 6, 2021 19:53:11 GMT -5
Still trying to figure out why Toni Braxton and Lauryn Hill were compared in the first place...one raps...the other sings...
Un-Break My Heart definitely sounds 90s as well as her other songs. Saying that her music is dated except for Un-Break My Heart is very telling. If we are being honest, Toni Braxton has more classics than Lauryn.
Also, music can sound like it came from its respective decade and still be considered a classic. There are plenty songs that sound like the 90s: Before You Walk Out My Life, Not Gon Cry, Have You Ever etc...and are still considered classics...
Still trying to figure out why they are being compared...that's like comparing apples and bananas
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Post by Private Dancer on Oct 6, 2021 19:55:28 GMT -5
I think imma turn into a Here4Toni or Kill4Toni poster.
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Post by cjay on Oct 7, 2021 9:33:28 GMT -5
I will also add I love me some him to her list of timeless songs. That was a major R&B AirPlay hit. Still sounds amazing today. Come to think of it, the whole damn secrets album is mostly timeless imo. If released today it would receive the same critical acclaim and be considered an amazing adult contemporary album.
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Post by Private Dancer on Oct 7, 2021 10:23:55 GMT -5
I will also add I love me some him to her list of timeless songs. That was a major R&B AirPlay hit. Still sounds amazing today. Come to think of it, the whole damn secrets album is mostly timeless imo. If released today it would receive the same critical acclaim and be considered an amazing adult contemporary album. Oh that's right! Didn't it reach #1 on R&B airplay?? Toni really has a lot of classics and i mean A LOT! |
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Post by Me. I Am l!nk!nfan815... on Oct 7, 2021 10:28:55 GMT -5
I love both. Both have beautiful and unique tones.
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Post by Private Dancer on Oct 7, 2021 10:33:10 GMT -5
BTW, Happy 54th Birthday to living legend Toni Braxton who is now trending on Twitter. The Toni Braxton appreciation is phenomenal over there.
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Post by jamatthews83 on Oct 7, 2021 10:40:41 GMT -5
While we're going off on a tangent, it's still a travesty that Hit The Freeway wasn't huge.
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Post by Private Dancer on Oct 7, 2021 11:21:30 GMT -5
While we're going off on a tangent, it's still a travesty that Hit The Freeway wasn't huge. YES!!!! It deserved to be a hit! |
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Post by cjay on Oct 7, 2021 11:40:04 GMT -5
While we're going off on a tangent, it's still a travesty that Hit The Freeway wasn't huge. You better speak on it! I blame LA Reid for the debacle of MTAW. He pulled the plug on all promotion When he found out Toni was pregnant. This was a time when pregnancies were starting to be celebrated by working moms and celebrities. I don’t think MTAW would have done better than The Hear, but it could have easily been a platinum album instead of gold. Same with Libra. Now that album should have performed similar to the Heat. |
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Post by cjay on Oct 7, 2021 11:42:47 GMT -5
I will also add I love me some him to her list of timeless songs. That was a major R&B AirPlay hit. Still sounds amazing today. Come to think of it, the whole damn secrets album is mostly timeless imo. If released today it would receive the same critical acclaim and be considered an amazing adult contemporary album. Oh that's right! Didn't it reach #1 on R&B airplay?? Toni really has a lot of classics and i mean A LOT! I’m not sure. I remember it making top 5 R&B airplay. I remember R&B radio playing this heavily and giving some decent airplay to Talking in his sleep—another amazing and unique song. |
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Post by leoapp on Oct 8, 2021 13:37:32 GMT -5
Toni is probably a rare example of musician whose legacy is hidden.
But somehow, people won't refuse to appreciate her legacy.
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Post by back2blk on Oct 9, 2021 11:19:20 GMT -5
Well it didn’t help that at the peak of Toni’s career, the music industry had anointed the trinity of Mariah Whitney and Celine as the dominating forces in the spaces Toni also occupied. So she always had stiff competition to overcome.
Lauryn stood alone in what she was doing, so it was easier for her to take the spotlight.
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