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Post by Hurricane Lee on Mar 18, 2022 11:15:26 GMT -5
Song is OK. She needs more than OK, especially at this point and not live singing a song without choreo is just...not a good look. Yikes.
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Post by Mayman on Mar 18, 2022 11:42:29 GMT -5
The song is cute. I wasn't a huge fan of Wild Side at first but it has grown on me overtime. Maybe that will be the same for this.
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Post by dwindeezy on Mar 18, 2022 12:20:36 GMT -5
Can’t lie, I expected this to be better but I still think they’ll achieve their goal of getting a UAC/R&B hit out of this. I expected this to have more urban pocket to it but this is straight up UAC even down to the performance lol. Like I was saying before, I think her next single is going to be the one we should really be focused on. It’s almost like they released this to focus on finally get her radio play on the last format that’s been holding out on her (UAC) and nothing else. Then release a high profile collab and rollout the album. On another note, it made me realize why Wild Side was such a big hit. It really is a dope song, sung very well, stands out and had a great video. This will definitely pale in comparison. I’d be surprised if this breaks top 50 on billboard hot 100 or crosses Over in any way. Your first paragraph is the only logical explanation I can think of for them choosing this as the single. But then again she doesn't really have any format under her belt yet. Yes, Wild Side was a huge hit a Urban, but that alone won't push them to support her the next time. Yea seeing how this is performing already, if it is a UAC hit, it would be a commercially high performing one (and UAC LOVES UAC only/core singles and they usually hold onto those in the top 10 for a while.) My thinking is they're trying to get that UAC play, not expecting Urban play (Wild Side recurrent play is going to compete with any single they release on the format for at least 3 months so if they did release this to Urban, I see it performing similar to Snoh Alegras- Want You Around on Urban) and probably are hoping with Wild Sides Urban recurrent play in which I see it having around 8-10 million audience for the next 3 or so months), Fair being a hit on Urban AC and then a collab single to be released to pop, urban and rhythmic to launch the album as they need a song with high weekly streams on all metrics and sales the week of the album release for it to have any REAL impact on first week sales and your only getting that with a big hit on radio. My big issue is It feels like they are hoping for a big first week debut for Mani but I really think they're setting themselves up for a major disappointment. I've always seen Mani more as a Ciara (lower first week sales but has legs due to radio play etc.) rather than a Beyonce (high first week sales WITH long legs) and they should be focusing on longevity than a big initial sales splash so I don't get why they're holding up the album so much. If she opened up with 40K SPS and everything, to me that would be a HUGE success for her tbh. IF they launched the album wit Wild Side, I I think shes made her point tho that her core sound/audience is going to be urban/UAC/Rhythmic to grow and maintain her presence in the black community as well as building real longevity in her career and then her collabs/features will be the big mainstream songs that everyone seems to want that will maintain/grow her presence with the GP/mainstream pop audience. Honestly, I'd expect her next single to be one with a huge artist like Meg or Doja or Dua Lipa (someone who a feature could get her a big pop, hac and rhythmic hit while Fair hits on UAC and Wild Side gets its Urban recurrent play). I do like that they aren't just doing a release a trendy, basic pop song with a feature so we can launch the album. They really have taken their time with Mani and developed her and Im sure they have invested A LOT of money into her soooooo.
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Post by Hurricane Lee on Mar 18, 2022 12:36:54 GMT -5
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Post by think pink. on Mar 18, 2022 14:13:37 GMT -5
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Post by tamed09 on Mar 18, 2022 14:16:40 GMT -5
Love Mani, but Ci literally came out the gate making history with the longest running #1 single for a debut female since 1977. Zomba/Laface got it right early on.
She actually works with Mark Pitts who was with Ciara at Jive.
I understand the UAC sentiments but this record does not keep album momentum for her. I want her to win, but they clearly have no idea on how to handle her
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Post by think pink. on Mar 18, 2022 14:48:27 GMT -5
Ciara was a star out the gate with her debut and played to her strengths. She ain’t release a ballad until the 4th single. Normani wants to deliver slow jams with no live vocals. What is the point?.
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Post by Ty on Mar 18, 2022 14:53:31 GMT -5
I wonder why she lipped that performance. Maybe some technical issue with the set or she wasn't sounding her normal that day?
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Post by Exclusive on Mar 18, 2022 15:10:20 GMT -5
I like it. Not sure if it's going to do anything on the charts without any momentum.
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Post by kimberly on Mar 18, 2022 15:33:10 GMT -5
I wonder why she lipped that performance. Maybe some technical issue with the set or she wasn't sounding her normal that day? as far as I'm concerned, she's a serial lip syncer. both her VMAs performances for "Motivation" and "Wild Side" were lipped. however, it's much less intrusive when choreo and gymnastics are involved, like in those performances. I know she's mentioned being a "perfectionist" before but somebody needs to tell her lipping a ballad on TV is far from a "perfect" approach. especially when it's a pre-taped performance so she could have easily done multiple takes of her actually singing and picked the best or edited best parts of them together. on a side note, I don't mean to sound harsh or mean. the song is growing on me and I really want her to succeed in the long run, but it feels like all of these missteps in trying to "establish" her as a hitmaker or whatever will haunt her forever.
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Post by Elusive Chanteuse on Mar 18, 2022 15:56:38 GMT -5
Goes for Urban adds on April 5th.
Not sure why they’re setting up for three weeks later instead of something sooner but whatever. Normani did confirm in an interview with Zane Lowe that a new song is coming out very soon though.
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Post by Nick on Mar 18, 2022 16:11:09 GMT -5
Perhaps nobody from Fifth Harmony was meant to be a solo star? I mean it wouldn't be the first time it's happened to a girl group. both Normani and Camila have had multiple #1's at pop radio which is more than most girl groups have gotten. Noted. I was talking more career longevity as far as girl groups vs. their solo success. Also, it just seems like it's taking a lifetime to launch her career.
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Post by Envoirment on Mar 18, 2022 16:36:14 GMT -5
I really like this - great album track.
I do wish they would've followed up with something stronger though. "Wild Side" was/is a massive urban hit (still top 5 on the format's radio chart) and has had great longevity (it holds the female record for longest climb to top 10 on Rhythmic radio with 23 weeks). The video lead to memes etc and generally did really well consdering R&B generally doesn't do as well outside the US.
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Post by Wave. on Mar 18, 2022 16:44:49 GMT -5
Listened a little more today, and I do like this. As I mentioned before, she has a pop option forever, but it's cool to gain a big Urban portion of people.
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Post by SHOOTER on Mar 18, 2022 20:06:06 GMT -5
She can give Pop the middle finger and stick to R&B as far as I’m concerned; I just need her to deliver jams that Urban radio will eat up because she’s far too young and vibrant to be relegated to the oldies but goodies stations only. 🥴
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Post by Khia on Mar 19, 2022 1:50:23 GMT -5
I like this and can see it being a grower, but I hope she has something coming that hits as hard for me as Waves/Motivation did.
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Post by Ryan on Mar 19, 2022 7:07:02 GMT -5
#86 on Apple Music and debuted at #152 on Spotify US with 258,896 streams. This might struggle to chart considering there's no official video yet.
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Post by spiritboy on Mar 19, 2022 7:54:12 GMT -5
Her song with Calvin Harris is coming soon so i guess they are saving that for Pop format.
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Post by think pink. on Mar 19, 2022 9:03:08 GMT -5
She can give Pop the middle finger and stick to R&B as far as I’m concerned; I just need her to deliver jams that Urban radio will eat up because she’s far too young and vibrant to be relegated to the oldies but goodies stations only. 🥴 This. I’m more than fine with her doing Urban/R&B. This is just boring. UAC should not be the goal here 💀😭.
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Post by Glove Slap on Mar 19, 2022 10:53:02 GMT -5
I liked Wild Side from the first listen and instantly thought it had potential.
I like this less and I don't think it has much single potential.
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Post by elementd5 on Mar 19, 2022 16:02:32 GMT -5
I absolutely love this now. Love, love, love. So relatable & smooth. Would enjoy a full R&B album for Normani.
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Post by Choco on Mar 19, 2022 17:45:37 GMT -5
#152 debut on US Spotify. Pretty much in line with the amount of hype this has.
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Post by Ty on Mar 19, 2022 21:26:15 GMT -5
I really hope this is a wakeup call to her and her team. You can't just drop one song every year and expect the buzz to last. While they should continue working on this song, which still has some potential, they need to serve the fans with more releases. It's been 4 years since "Love Lies" and there's simply no excuse to not have dropped her debut album.
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Post by Sounds from the Other Side on Mar 20, 2022 4:53:35 GMT -5
This is a little nice song. I expected better based on the snippet but I still like this song.
That's a shame she lipped that performance. I still consider her as a studio singer.
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Post by Dreams on Mar 20, 2022 8:23:01 GMT -5
I absolutely love this now. Love, love, love. So relatable & smooth. Would enjoy a full R&B album for Normani. This song is just gorgeous and incredibly addictive; definitely one of my favorite songs of 2022. Too bad this isn't the hit she needs.
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Post by #LisaRinna on Mar 20, 2022 10:44:32 GMT -5
I like the song a lot!
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Post by Glove Slap on Mar 20, 2022 13:53:38 GMT -5
I can see Toni Braxton singing this.
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Post by stunnedout on Mar 20, 2022 14:12:49 GMT -5
At this point they need to scrap her project.
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Post by Ty on Mar 20, 2022 14:26:10 GMT -5
At this point they need to scrap her project. I'm begging her to at least drop an R&B EP with 3-4 new songs plus this, "Wild Side", and even "Waves". Before she heads back to that d*mn booth!! 🥴🥴
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Post by survivorqt on Mar 20, 2022 15:18:04 GMT -5
Anyone know any insiders at RCA? Any tea in her future?
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