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Post by aldo01 on May 26, 2022 7:59:20 GMT -5
This is a good song, but I agree that it doesn't really sound like a lead single. "Crazy Angels" would be a great follow up in my opinion, as it is extremely catchy and she sounds great in it. Also, I know it will very likely remain an album cut, but the new song "She Don't Know" is fantastic.
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Post by daddy on May 26, 2022 8:08:08 GMT -5
This is a good song, but I agree that it doesn't really sound like a lead single. "Crazy Angels" would be a great follow up in my opinion, as it is extremely catchy and she sounds great in it. Also, I know it will very likely remain an album cut, but the new song "She Don't Know" is fantastic. "Crazy Angels" seems to be connecting well with listeners, so I'd imagine they'll go with that one next. I like it, but I enjoy "She Don't Know" more and can see it being a big song for her, too. As her second single won't be coming out for a while, I hope her team focuses on song reception following the album's release. No "Love Wins" situations, por favor.
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Post by zdm1998 on May 26, 2022 10:50:48 GMT -5
^ Second the thought of not needing another Love Wins moment to derail momentum. "She Don't Know" is by far my favorite of the pre-releases, but I do really love Crazy Angels, it feels so much like a summer anthem, and think radio would absolutely eat it up. Hope they aren't considering Denim as a single, because the other two are MUCH better and I think radio would love, whereas idk if radio would take too well to an 80s pop song.
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Post by matty005 on May 26, 2022 12:37:49 GMT -5
^ Second the thought of not needing another Love Wins moment to derail momentum. "She Don't Know" is by far my favorite of the pre-releases, but I do really love Crazy Angels, it feels so much like a summer anthem, and think radio would absolutely eat it up. Hope they aren't considering Denim as a single, because the other two are MUCH better and I think radio would love, whereas idk if radio would take too well to an 80s pop song. With the way the charts are now even someone as successful as Carrie would have a hard time getting Crazy Angels to peak anywhere close to summer still going on. Unless they pull Ghost Story soon, I don't see Crazy Angels as a summer song but more of a early fall peaking single. I still think Ghost Story will be charting well into July.
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Post by .indulgecountry on May 26, 2022 13:02:12 GMT -5
I still think Ghost Story will be charting well into July. The way it's climbing now, I don't think it'll peak until at least September if it goes all the way to #1 or close to it. The only way I see it peaking in July is if it limps to a peak in the teens, but the callout suggests Carrie's got a future #1 on her hands.
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Post by raylatch98 on May 26, 2022 13:04:50 GMT -5
I am not ready to write off a #1 for this just because well how many Carrie Underwood singles people thought were surefire #1s for both Billboard and Mediabase only to come up short on the former at least. That being said this should be charting well into September if it does go the distance as it is at #21 on Mediabase so it has a long ways to go still.
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Post by matty005 on May 26, 2022 13:06:37 GMT -5
I still think Ghost Story will be charting well into July. The way it's climbing now, I don't think it'll peak until at least September if it goes all the way to #1 or close to it. The only way I see it peaking in July is if it limps to a peak in the teens, but the callout suggests Carrie's got a future #1 on her hands. Yes, you're 100% correct. My main point was "Crazy Angels" can't be a summer anthem (at least not this summer) with the way the charts currently are.
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Post by toomuchboy on May 26, 2022 13:09:17 GMT -5
As her second single won't be coming out for a while, I hope her team focuses on song reception following the album's release. No "Love Wins" situations, por favor. I'm sure they will. I think "Love Wins" was likely a unique situation. I always felt it was a song she was insistent on releasing because of the message and the time, even though she had to know it would be a risk with country radio's audience.
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Post by zdm1998 on May 26, 2022 13:24:10 GMT -5
^ Second the thought of not needing another Love Wins moment to derail momentum. "She Don't Know" is by far my favorite of the pre-releases, but I do really love Crazy Angels, it feels so much like a summer anthem, and think radio would absolutely eat it up. Hope they aren't considering Denim as a single, because the other two are MUCH better and I think radio would love, whereas idk if radio would take too well to an 80s pop song. With the way the charts are now even someone as successful as Carrie would have a hard time getting Crazy Angels to peak anywhere close to summer still going on. Unless they pull Ghost Story soon, I don't see Crazy Angels as a summer song but more of a early fall peaking single. I still think Ghost Story will be charting well into July. Oh I wasn't implying this summer. GS will peak probably September/October. I was refering to summer 2023; probably would peak late spring early summer if they do go with it for single 2.
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Post by musicfan134 on May 26, 2022 17:37:12 GMT -5
Have the country charts always been this...slow? I feel like her other leads have been peaking by now, or at least in the top 10...
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Post by .indulgecountry on May 26, 2022 20:36:47 GMT -5
Have the country charts always been this...slow? I feel like her other leads have been peaking by now, or at least in the top 10... It's definitely a combination of two things: 1) The charts are indeed slower than ever -- we seem to get fewer and fewer #1 songs that have runs that last less than 20 weeks, and a lot of the big airplay hits fall verrrrry slowly and linger in the top 10 on BB for several months before finally going recurrent ("If I Didn't Love You," "Thinking 'Bout You," and "'Til You Can't" being the best recent examples). 2) Carrie Underwood's radio momentum took a ding last album era. Cry Pretty only had 1 single out of 4 that didn't struggle on the charts, and then she took a bit of time off for her Xmas/Gospel side projects, only to return with "Ghost Story," which the consensus seemed to be that it wasn't the big comeback hit that most expected. It's clearly connecting well now, but it was the definition of being a grower than an instant hit. She's just no longer at a place in her career where she can go to #1 in 12 weeks, nor can most country artists outside of Luke Combs and a couple others w/ lead single hype.
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Post by 14887fan on May 26, 2022 20:41:52 GMT -5
Desperately wish CU fans would stop giving so much of a shit about country radio. Even she/her team don’t seem to care as much as they used to, either. She released approximately 0 solo country singles with her last project and remained as relevant and in-demand of an artist as ever, with 2 random/one-off passion projects.
Radio just isn’t that big of a deal compared to what it used to be, despite what radio folks may want to think. CU, and all other country artists, should focus their attention to innovative ways of bolstering their streaming numbers. That’s the way this world works now, and it’s how it will continue to work until the next new cool method of music consumption is born.
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Post by carriefan15 on May 27, 2022 12:15:39 GMT -5
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Post by 3chords on May 27, 2022 12:59:27 GMT -5
Desperately wish CU fans would stop giving so much of a s**t about country radio. Even she/her team don’t seem to care as much as they used to, either. She released approximately 0 solo country singles with her last project and remained as relevant and in-demand of an artist as ever, with 2 random/one-off passion projects. Radio just isn’t that big of a deal compared to what it used to be, despite what radio folks may want to think. CU, and all other country artists, should focus their attention to innovative ways of bolstering their streaming numbers. That’s the way this world works now, and it’s how it will continue to work until the next new cool method of music consumption is born. I agree, look at Zach Bryan and Kacey. And most of the songs on the radio are bad anyways 😅 Yes it helps with exposure for artists trying to get started but if you’re someone like Carrie who has her fan base and has gotten her number 1s and is still thriving and doing what she wants who gives a sheet.
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Post by Sugar Rush on May 27, 2022 14:26:22 GMT -5
This is a very good sign right?
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Post by raylatch98 on May 27, 2022 14:39:54 GMT -5
I don't think an artist of Carrie Underwood's stature needs country radio at all. That being said it is still always a nice boost to just have and it keeps your name even a little more out there than it already is. That and while I don't think the label needs to have radio completely in mind it'd be nice to see them release songs to country radio a little more radio friendly especially with the uptick in women succeeding and yet besides her duet with Jason Aldean, Carrie Underwood hasn't really seized it quite yet.
I do think "Ghost Story" has the potential to get her a Top 5 or possible #1 on radio. Which is great but I don't know how much longevity the song will have to be honest once it is done on radio as it has been a pretty soft hit in terms of impact as have most of her own album singles have been since "Dirty Laundry" (even "Southbound" petered off impact wise near the end). Hopefully there's a song on the album that just absolutely sells and streams like hotcakes like we are seeing with the new singles from Cole Swindell and Carly Pearce as it feels like it had been a hot minute since we've had a dominant Carrie Underwood single.
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Post by musicfan134 on May 27, 2022 21:19:34 GMT -5
Desperately wish CU fans would stop giving so much of a s**t about country radio. Even she/her team don’t seem to care as much as they used to, either. She released approximately 0 solo country singles with her last project and remained as relevant and in-demand of an artist as ever, with 2 random/one-off passion projects. Radio just isn’t that big of a deal compared to what it used to be, despite what radio folks may want to think. CU, and all other country artists, should focus their attention to innovative ways of bolstering their streaming numbers. That’s the way this world works now, and it’s how it will continue to work until the next new cool method of music consumption is born. I mean to be fair, this is a forum about music charts, and radio still has a big impact on chart placement... Having said that, I don't think it's the most important thing in the world to get radio play. I was just curious if the song was moving slowly.
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Post by Typo on May 27, 2022 21:41:18 GMT -5
What singles performed by female vocalists have had strong longevity at Country radio? “Never Wanted to Be That Girl” had strong callout and dropped like a rock from the top spot.
“Ghost Story” is outperforming all Cry Pretty singles in terms of testing and performing exceptionally well across all demographics compared to most singles performed by female artists. If this single keeps growing on the airwaves (it will because programmers will rally around the one song by a female artist with strong callout) and manages a Top 3 peak in October/November, then I’d say that enough longevity.
Who cares if this isn’t BHC/BA/SITW? She’s not a breakout artist anymore. She’s a veteran female artist with a single that is actually connecting with audiences - mission accomplished.
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Post by raylatch98 on May 27, 2022 22:04:44 GMT -5
What singles performed by female vocalists have had strong longevity at Country radio? “Never Wanted to Be That Girl” had strong callout and dropped like a rock from the top spot. “Ghost Story” is outperforming all Cry Pretty singles in terms of testing and performing exceptionally well across all demographics compared to most singles performed by female artists. If this single keeps growing on the airwaves (it will because programmers will rally around the one song by a female artist with strong callout) and manages a Top 3 peak in October/November, then I’d say that enough longevity. Who cares if this isn’t BHC/BA/SITW? She’s not a breakout artist anymore. She’s a veteran female artist with a single that is actually connecting with audiences - mission accomplished. "The Bones", "I Hope", "Die From A Broken Heart", "The Good Ones", "Bluebird", "Things A Man Oughta Know", "I Hope You're Happy Now", "Half Of My Hometown", and "Drunk (AIDWGH)" all had strong recurrent airplay.
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Post by daddy on May 28, 2022 6:31:35 GMT -5
What singles performed by female vocalists have had strong longevity at Country radio? “Never Wanted to Be That Girl” had strong callout and dropped like a rock from the top spot. “Ghost Story” is outperforming all Cry Pretty singles in terms of testing and performing exceptionally well across all demographics compared to most singles performed by female artists. If this single keeps growing on the airwaves (it will because programmers will rally around the one song by a female artist with strong callout) and manages a Top 3 peak in October/November, then I’d say that enough longevity. Who cares if this isn’t BHC/BA/SITW? She’s not a breakout artist anymore. She’s a veteran female artist with a single that is actually connecting with audiences - mission accomplished. This. The fact that Carrie, as a 39 year old woman in country music, is still capable of getting major airplay and songs up the charts is impressive. It still has a long climb ahead of it, but it seems to be connecting better with general listeners than the initial reception on this board would have implied (I get that country radio listeners and pulse stans are vastly different audiences). Many successful country artists only have one or two high impact radio singles througouht their careers, while Carrie's had many (JTTW, BHC, BA, SITW, CB, IIDLY (yes, I realize a male artist was on this one) to name some. While it would be sick to have another huge radio hit, it's statistically unlikely when looking at the artists and songs country radio is playing. Carrie can continue to have a very successful career without country radio, when that day eventually comes. She's always moved albums, gets huge gigs, is a successful touring artist, and is a arguably the biggest household name in the genre.
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Post by popwizard on May 31, 2022 9:47:42 GMT -5
It doesn't surprise me that this is testing well on radio. Its an extremely easy and pleasant listen. Cry Pretty was fairly jarring in terms of the single choices with the exception of Southbound.
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Post by Typo on Jun 5, 2022 7:30:22 GMT -5
Top 20 Mediabase.
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Post by zaclord 🌈 on Jun 9, 2022 11:02:34 GMT -5
Rises from 24-16 (new peak) on the Hot Country Songs chart and awarded the Streaming Gainer designation this past week. Also re-enters the Hot 100 at 82 (peak 72). Holds at #22 at radio this week, but could enter the top 20 next week on Billboard. So glad to see this one streaming so well. I continue to enjoy this more every time I hear it and enjoy it as the lead single here. The whole album is packed with radio-ready options (that are all better than Southbound) so I’m hopeful for a big era of multiple Billboard #1 hits for Carrie again!
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Post by Carriefan1190 on Jun 10, 2022 19:44:14 GMT -5
I see this hitting top 10 at the very least. It was a slow grower, but I think it’s starting to hit its stride now.
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Post by taylor on Jun 11, 2022 6:57:05 GMT -5
So happy to see this song finding its wings and starting to fly! Also impressed to see it streaming well at all; she’s always been quite lackluster on her own in that department save for her signature songs.
The album is FULL of hits that are easy #1 smashes. With its playlisting and lyric video, I won’t be shocked to see “Pink Champagne” be next. Hoping she’ll follow that up with “Crazy Angels,” and after that, I think “Burn,” “Hate My Heart,” “Poor Everybody Else,” and “She Don’t Know” have great chances. “Wanted Woman” is perhaps a riskier choice, but I’d like to hear that one too. Also can’t forget that “Velvet Heartbreak.”
Basically just be Shania this era please. This album is Carrie’s Come On Over for radio.
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Post by Hurricane Lee on Jun 12, 2022 13:27:05 GMT -5
Ghost Story REALLY resonates me but another unpopular first single that gave me the same feels was Smoke Break, so there you have it. Hope this song has longevity. I can tell Carrie loves it from the way she performs it.
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Post by christianlarson9 on Jun 13, 2022 20:38:21 GMT -5
Hits has “Denim & Rhinestones” debuting with 28k-33k units. It looks like this might be Carrie’s first album to miss the Top 10 all-genre 😬
Also, depending on where Zach Bryan lands, Carrie might be debuting at #3 on Billboard Country Albums…
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Post by .indulgecountry on Jun 13, 2022 21:01:06 GMT -5
^ Half of what her gospel album opened with? Jfc.
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Post by Carriefan1190 on Jun 13, 2022 22:21:24 GMT -5
Officially top 20 with #19 on Country Airplay. Believe this is her 32nd top 20 single. Get it Carrie!
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Post by dwindeezy on Jun 13, 2022 22:26:53 GMT -5
^ Half of what her gospel album opened with? Jfc. Honestly album sales are trash (Especially debut week) these days except for select artists and usually look at total units moved since debut week only counts the streams it got that week. Hopefully it has song legs with digital sales and also streams. Now Getting a Gold album these days (my indication of a really successful album era) is a big feat almost to the point where I wonder if they’ll start changing certification amounts in the coming years.
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