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Post by Wave. on Jun 9, 2022 9:55:31 GMT -5
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Post by Music Fan on Jun 9, 2022 12:57:30 GMT -5
Some new categories, including Songwriter of the Year, Score for Video Game/Interactive Media, and Song for Social Change. The first two are great additions, but the third ... this isn't the VMAs.
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Post by shayonce on Jun 9, 2022 13:31:53 GMT -5
So you're only eligible if you write songs for other people and don't perform or produce them yourself? Am I interpreting that correctly? basically songwriter version of producer of the year they will only count songs written for other artists and you must have only songwriter role on the song. not songwriter+producer like Ryan Tedder, Pharrell etc or many producers who get songwriter credit for their beat/production. it's great rule.
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Jun 9, 2022 19:36:11 GMT -5
Okay, this makes more sense when explained this way: "The Academy says: “This category recognizes the written excellence, profession and art of songwriting for non-performing and non-producing songwriters. This category is for songwriters whose body of work released for the first time during the current eligibility year represents artistic excellence in the area of songwriting.” Analysis: This category is intended for songwriters who do a meaningful amount of writing for others. Despite what the Academy’s capsule description of the category implies, these songwriters can also be performers and/or producers, but they must have written or co-written a minimum of five songs in which they were not credited as a primary or featured artist, or producer or in any other similar role." www.billboard.com/lists/14-rule-changes-2023-grammy-awards-5-new-categories/
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Post by Night Senses on Jun 27, 2022 9:53:38 GMT -5
Is there a legitimate reason why Best Pop Song doesn’t exist? Is there a supplement for it that I’m missing?
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Post by Mike on Jul 8, 2022 18:54:34 GMT -5
^I don't know if there was ever an official statement from the academy on why this award doesn't exist, but I do remember reading something years ago that stated because so many songs tread that line between pop and other categories there wasn't a need for it (or some extension of that).
Funny enough, there is a "Best Pop Song" category at the Latin GRAMMYs.
Someone make it make sense!
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Post by jodakyellow on Jul 11, 2022 13:41:37 GMT -5
Some new categories, including Songwriter of the Year, Score for Video Game/Interactive Media, and Song for Social Change. The first two are great additions, but the third ... this isn't the VMAs. Very that, but it's a Special Merit Category, not a competitive Grammy. It'll be treated more like MusiCares Person of the Year.
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Post by kimberly on Jul 11, 2022 14:17:55 GMT -5
Is there a legitimate reason why Best Pop Song doesn’t exist? Is there a supplement for it that I’m missing? I'm guessing the rationale might be that Song of the Year & Record of the Year are both Pop Song awards by nature, and there's Pop Solo Performance and Pop Duo/Group Performance, so creating a duplicate category would only come in handy every once in a blue moon. They want to avoid redundancy. I do wish Pop Performance awards somehow included songwriters, but that would have gotten Dr. Luke a win for "Kiss Me More" this year so maybe it's better to keep it how it is lol. But yeah I don't think we had an official category that honored pop songwriting, and this new award seems like a half-assed remedy.
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Jul 14, 2022 9:17:43 GMT -5
The 65th annual GRAMMY Awards will take place in LA on February 5, 2023.
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Post by Wave. on Jul 19, 2022 13:19:01 GMT -5
Hmm. I guess even for everyone..6 would've been good imo.
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Post by jenglisbe on Jul 19, 2022 13:24:22 GMT -5
^I don't know if there was ever an official statement from the academy on why this award doesn't exist, but I do remember reading something years ago that stated because so many songs tread that line between pop and other categories there wasn't a need for it (or some extension of that). Funny enough, there is a "Best Pop Song" category at the Latin GRAMMYs. Someone make it make sense! It doesn't make sense. As you said, not sure if that explanation is official, but even if it is, it makes no sense as the same can be said of the recordings that still get placed in Pop, Rock, R&B, etc. Is there a legitimate reason why Best Pop Song doesn’t exist? Is there a supplement for it that I’m missing? I'm guessing the rationale might be that Song of the Year & Record of the Year are both Pop Song awards by nature How so?
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Post by kimberly on Jul 19, 2022 13:47:23 GMT -5
I'm guessing the rationale might be that Song of the Year & Record of the Year are both Pop Song awards by nature How so? any song that doesn't fit in the genre categories can be nominated for SOTY & ROTY, which is how a Pop Song award would function. since that's how Pop Vocal Album and Pop Solo & Duo/Group Performance awards work. the pool of submissions is larger, of course, but there's also 10 nominees instead of 5 we'd get for a Pop Song category. essentially, anything that would end up in a Pop Song nominee list is almost certainly getting a SOTY nomination already. this can't be said for any other genre categories, which is why they exist in the first place—to reward musical excellence that isn't popular by default. if we're looking at 2022, a Pop Song category would have looked something like: Drivers License Kiss Me More Happier Than Ever Right On Time Montero (Call Me By Your Name)
all of which were in the running for SOTY and ROTY. all but one (Lil Nas X) got nominated in the Pop Performance categories.
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Post by jenglisbe on Jul 19, 2022 13:51:03 GMT -5
any song that doesn't fit in the genre categories can be nominated for SOTY & ROTY, which is how a Pop Song award would function. since that's how Pop Vocal Album and Pop Solo & Duo/Group Performance awards work. the pool of submissions is larger, of course, but there's also 10 nominees instead of 5 we'd get for a Pop Song category. essentially, anything that would end up in a Pop Song nominee list is almost certainly getting a SOTY nomination already. this can't be said for any other genre categories, which is why they exist in the first place—to reward musical excellence that isn't popular by default. if we're looking at 2022, a Pop Song category would have looked something like: Drivers License Kiss Me More Happier Than Ever Right On Time Montero (Call Me By Your Name)
all of which were in the running for SOTY and ROTY. all but one (Lil Nas X) got nominated in the Pop Performance categories. Your reasoning is based on there being 10 nominees for SOTY, which is new. In the past when there were only 5 nominees, we would definitely have had Pop Song nominees that were not in SOTY. We still didn't have Pop Song then. Additionally, why does Pop Album exist when the same argument can be made for it and AOTY?
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Post by Music Fan on Jul 19, 2022 13:53:08 GMT -5
I'm guessing the rationale might be that Song of the Year & Record of the Year are both Pop Song awards by nature How so? I'd think this is because most of the nominees in the Song of the Year & Record of the Year came from the pop categories. I'm not sure if this is necessarily always the case, but probably most common when compared to other genres. I think this is less of an issue now that the big four have expanded to 10 nominees though. I just picked a random year to look at, for example: 2010. The song of the year nominees were Viva La Vida, American Boy, Chasing Pavements, I'm Yours and Love Song. All songs, with the exception of American Boy received Best Pop Female, Male or Duo/Group nominations.
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Post by jenglisbe on Jul 19, 2022 14:02:21 GMT -5
I'd think this is because most of the nominees in the Song of the Year & Record of the Year came from the pop categories. I'm not sure if this is necessarily always the case, but probably most common when compared to other genres. I think this is less of an issue now that the big four have expanded to 10 nominees though. I just picked a random year to look at, for example: 2010. The song of the year nominees were Viva La Vida, American Boy, Chasing Pavements, I'm Yours and Love Song. All songs, with the exception of American Boy received Best Pop Female, Male or Duo/Group nominations. That's a fault of the voters, not the categories. Additionally it can be argued that since voters can't acknowledge those songs in the genre Song category, they feel a need to nominate them in the general field. Maybe if they could nominate pop songs in a Pop Song category, voters would be more diverse in their SOTY choices. Of course, it's also about which year you look at. The very next year from your example featured an R&B winner ("Single Ladies") and then nominees from Rock (Kings of Leon), R&B ("Pretty Wings"), and Dance ("Poker Face"). The only SOTY nominee that year that was a Pop nominee was "You Belong With Me," which is funny because it was a country hit first.
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Post by kimberly on Jul 19, 2022 14:12:37 GMT -5
any song that doesn't fit in the genre categories can be nominated for SOTY & ROTY, which is how a Pop Song award would function. since that's how Pop Vocal Album and Pop Solo & Duo/Group Performance awards work. the pool of submissions is larger, of course, but there's also 10 nominees instead of 5 we'd get for a Pop Song category. essentially, anything that would end up in a Pop Song nominee list is almost certainly getting a SOTY nomination already. this can't be said for any other genre categories, which is why they exist in the first place—to reward musical excellence that isn't popular by default. if we're looking at 2022, a Pop Song category would have looked something like: Drivers License Kiss Me More Happier Than Ever Right On Time Montero (Call Me By Your Name)
all of which were in the running for SOTY and ROTY. all but one (Lil Nas X) got nominated in the Pop Performance categories. Your reasoning is based on there being 10 nominees for SOTY, which is new. In the past when there were only 5 nominees, we would definitely have had Pop Song nominees that were not in SOTY. We still didn't have Pop Song then. Additionally, why does Pop Album exist when the same argument can be made for it and AOTY? as you might have noticed, I am NOT the Recording Academy. I'm offering a possible explanation (boiling down to redundancy of a pop song category) for the question you posed go argue with them if it bothers you so much. I'm okay with "Yummy" by Justin Bieber getting one less nomination.
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Post by Groovy on Jul 19, 2022 15:51:35 GMT -5
Who is supposed to be in the Best New Artist category?
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Post by recordyear on Jul 19, 2022 23:59:57 GMT -5
Who is supposed to be in the Best New Artist category? Zach Bryan absolutely deserves if he is eligible. A huge album opening week and a hit single should suffice. Bailey Zimmerman also could considering he has two hits at the same time, but I wonder whether they will nominate two white male country artists in this field. As for other genres, maybe Wet Leg (strong album sales)?
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Post by keatonzab on Jul 20, 2022 0:47:21 GMT -5
Who is supposed to be in the Best New Artist category? I've seen people predict GAYLE, Joji, Latto, Muni Long, Wet Leg and The Anxiety
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Post by recordyear on Jul 20, 2022 3:55:50 GMT -5
^Muni Long for Best New Artist would be funny as her career dates back to 2009. Considering the other artists mentioned only have a big hit at best and no big albums in the eligibility period, this should easily provide some space for new artists that are more critically acclaimed but do not have big hits to be nominated.
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Post by keatonzab on Jul 20, 2022 5:40:37 GMT -5
^Muni Long for Best New Artist would be funny as her career dates back to 2009. Considering the other artists mentioned only have a big hit at best and no big albums in the eligibility period, this should easily provide some space for new artists that are more critically acclaimed but do not have big hits to be nominated. 2009?, Dang, I thought she was a new artist
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Jul 20, 2022 7:01:51 GMT -5
^Muni Long for Best New Artist would be funny as her career dates back to 2009. Considering the other artists mentioned only have a big hit at best and no big albums in the eligibility period, this should easily provide some space for new artists that are more critically acclaimed but do not have big hits to be nominated. 2009?, Dang, I thought she was a new artist If this is considered a breakthrough year for her, she could be. As long as she meets other criteria (whatever that is this year).
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Post by jenglisbe on Jul 20, 2022 9:40:27 GMT -5
Who is supposed to be in the Best New Artist category? Zach Bryan absolutely deserves if he is eligible. A huge album opening week and a hit single should suffice. Bailey Zimmerman also could considering he has two hits at the same time, but I wonder whether they will nominate two white male country artists in this field. As for other genres, maybe Wet Leg (strong album sales)? Latto is a likely nominee. Is Anitta eligible?
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Aug 1, 2022 22:03:19 GMT -5
hitsdailydouble.com/news&id=332372&title=GRAMMY-CHEW%253A-A-LONG-SHORT-LIST-FOR-BEST-NEW-ARTISTMonday, August 1, 2022 GRAMMY CHEW: A LONG SHORT LIST FOR BEST NEW ARTISTby Lenny Beer and Simon Glickman Grammy nominations are a ways off, but the Grammy conversation is well underway—and no category occasions as much chatter as Best New Artist. There are plenty of contenders, but a few names appear to be in the foreground at present. We note that Grammy’s cockamamie rules mean that certain potential nominees who would otherwise seem destined for a nod are disqualified. Then again, those rules change every 10 minutes, and Grammy decides when to bend them. So the one rule you can expect to see applied consistently is this one: Grammy does what Grammy wants. That said, here are some names we might see on the nominations list this fall. Did we miss someone crucial? Let us know. But please use your inside voice. Zach Bryan: This leading exponent of so-called Red Dirt Country is inviting comparisons to Springsteen with his earthy, emotionally direct songs. Warner’s Bryan is a touring and streaming giant who’s electrifying fans. He'd likely do the same for the Grammy telecast. A clear favorite for the short list. Muni Long: After writing hits for Rihanna, Ariana Grande and other big acts under the nom de plume Priscilla Renea, this R&B specialist adopted a fresh artist moniker, broke out with the streaming hit “Hrs and Hrs” and became the first major signing at the new Def Jam. She’s a serious contender to represent the genre in BNA. BRELAND: This New Jersey native is one of several Black artists transforming the country genre, mixing in hip-hop, blues, rock and gospel touches while staying true to the form’s down-home dynamic (and collaborating with genre mainstays like Keith Urban, Thomas Rhett, Sam Hunt and Dierks Bentley). What’s more, he’s a hugely appealing presence. Anitta: This charismatic Brazilian artist is a worldwide superstar, and she recently earned a Guinness Book of World Records certification as the first solo Latin artist to hit #1 at Spotify (thanks to huge single “Envolver”). A live sensation who recently rocked Lollapalooza in Europe as well as Coachella, she looks destined for continued stratospheric success. Lauren Spencer-Smith: This young Canadian was another indie streaming breakout (thanks to “Fingers Crossed”) and became a big signing for both the new Island team (via Island/Republic) and Warner/Chappell. Her sharp, distinctive songwriting makes her a standout in a field crowded with up-and-coming solo females. Yahritza Y Su Esencia: To hear her sing, it’s hard to believe Yahritza Martinez is 15 years old—she’s plugged into something timeless. And amid a larger boom in Latin music, this sibling trio from the Washington burg of Yakima (and freshly inked to Columbia) brings an almost punk-rock edge to música Mexicana. Explosive fan activity on TikTok and elsewhere give an inkling of how huge these kids might become. A Grammy TV spot could be a major catapult—just sayin’. Coi Leray: This Republic rapper/singer has been bubbling under for a while; she released various mixtapes, an EP and more (including TikTok fave “Twinnem”) before dropping her official album debut this year. As comfortable purring silky R&B as she is delivering hard-charging bars (and holding her own in high-profile duets), she’s a powerful, sexy presence. Måneskin: With “SUPERMODEL,” Arista/Sony Latin’s Italian quartet has its second straight #1 Alternative-radio smash, following the global monster that was “Beggin’.” After conquering Eurovision with their Roman revelry, they’ve made the world safe for glam again. If Grammy wants a vibrant young rock collective in the mix, ciao bella. Latto: Thanks to the irresistible earworm “Big Energy,” Columbus, Ohio’s Alyssa Michelle Stevens, aka RCA breakout Latto, became one of the few female solo rappers to hit #1 on the pop chart. With a brassy star power akin to Cardi B and Megan Thee Stallion's—but arguably even more pop appeal—Latto rules every stage she steps on. Little wonder that Grammy speculation around her has become, er, energetic. Em Beihold: This Moon Projects/Republic contender (and freshly inked Sony Pub tunesmith) is another in that large class of impressive new female singer/songwriters vying for Grammy love. L.A. native Beihold scored a pop breakthrough with the engaging and timely “Numb Little Bug,” and her witty sensibility—and ability to turn mental-health struggles and other modern challenges into catchy pop themes—suggests a real arrival. Nardo Wick: RCA's Jacksonville rapper has a buzzing new collab with The Kid LAROI. Nardo, who gained widespread attention last year, has been endorsed by hip-hop insiders, earning the sobriquet “your favorite rapper’s favorite rapper.” With a strong visual presence to match his confident flow, he’s also drawn a crowd on TikTok. Dove Cameron: Disruptor/Columbia’s thrush, now on a pop run with the smoky come-on “Boyfriend,” bears a superficial vocal resemblance to Billie Eilish and possesses a Disney-machine background like Olivia Rodrigo's. She’s another strong contender in that crowded class of solo females. JOJI: Warner’s pop/rock singer/songwriter, the breakout star of the group 88rising, has a global smash with the soulful ballad “Glimpse of Us,” which has dominated the DSPs since its arrival. It’s not his first giant hit (“Slow Dancing in the Dark” has nearly a billion streams), and as usual, he's connected directly with a giant audience. Yeat: After becoming a viral sensation on YouTube and TikTok with tracks like “Gët Busy”—and earning shout-outs from Drake and other high-profile players—Field Trip/Geffen’s Portland-based rapper scored big streams and a Top 5 chart debut with this year’s 2 Alivë, which featured guests like Gunna and Young Thug. With a penchant for coining his own terms (including his cannabis-inspired moniker) and a fondness for umlauts, he’s an offbeat new arrival who’s found his own lane. Tate McRae: We weren’t kidding about the preponderance of impressive young female singer/songwriters in the current class. RCA’s Calgary native McRae, who’s all of 19, went to #1 with the mesmerizing “you broke me first.” Her overall approach applies an appealing gloss to post-Eilish angst. Bailey Zimmerman: Another new country voice, Warner Nashville’s 22-year-old phenom from small-town Illinois has earned huge streams and attracted big crowds with stripped-down sounds, gritty vocals and an intimate take on the time-honored “three chords and the truth” mantra. He’s the real deal—and could be poised for crossover fame. Wet Leg: This smarty-pants distaff duo from the Isle of Wight earned a score of indie-rock admirers with 2021’s pulsing “Chaise Longue” (a VMA Push Performance nominee), and their recent Mercury Prize nomination has upped their already high hipster quotient. Could they be BNA’s left-field dark horse? We’re also watching: Doechii, BLXST, BoyWithUke, Tems, Rosa Linn, Sebastian Yatra, Girl in Red, Omar Apollo and assorted K-pop ensembles (including Seventeen, Aespa and Stray Kids).
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Aug 1, 2022 22:07:22 GMT -5
www.billboard.com/music/awards/grammys-2023-awards-ceremony-big-four-categories-predictions-1235119735/I cannot copy and paste the full article. Here are the highlights: Album of The YearAdele - 30 Bad Bunny - Un Verano Sin Ti Beyoncé - Renaissance Brandi Carlile - In These Silent Days Kendrick Lamar - Mr. Morale & The Big Steppers Ed Sheeran - = Silk Sonic - An Evening With Silk Sonic Harry Styles - Harry’s House Taylor Swift - Red (Taylor’s Version) Various Artists - Encanto film soundtrack Within Reach: Drake, Honestly, Nevermind; Future, I Never Liked You; Elton John, The Lockdown Sessions; Miranda Lambert, Palomino; Lizzo, Special; Post Malone, Twelve Carat Toothache; Bonnie Raitt, Just Like That…; Rosalía, Motomami; Summer Walker, Still Over It; The Weeknd, Dawn FM Song of the YearLizzo - About Damn Time Harry Styles - As It Was Dove Cameron - Boyfriend Beyoncé - Break My Soul Adele - Easy On Me Jack Harlow - First Class Joji - Glimpse Of Us Em Beihold - Numb Little Bug Silk Sonic - Smokin’ Out the Window Various - We Don’t Talk About Bruno Within Reach: “Enemy,” Imagine Dragons and JID; “Fingers Crossed,” Lauren Spencer-Smith; “Hrs & Hrs,” Muni Long; “I Hate U,” SZA; “Love Me More,” Sam Smith; “MAMIII,” Becky G featuring Karol G; “N95,” Kendrick Lamar; “Sweetest Pie,” Megan Thee Stallion and Dua Lipa; “Wait 4 U,” Future featuring Drake & Tems; “Woman,” Doja Cat Record of the Year Adele - Easy On Me Becky G Featuring Karol G - MAMIII Beyoncé - Break My Soul Doja Cat - Woman Jack Harlow - First Class Imagine Dragons & JID - Enemy Lizzo - About Damn Time Silk Sonic - Smokin’ Out the Window Harry Styles - As It Was Taylor Swift - All Too Well (10 Minute Version) (Taylor's Version) Within Reach: Em Beihold, “Numb Little Bug”; Dove Cameron, “Boyfriend”; Future featuring Drake & Tems, “Wait 4 U”; Joji, “Glimpse of Us”; Kendrick Lamar, “N95”; Muni Long, “Hrs & Hrs”; Megan Thee Stallion and Dua Lipa, “Sweetest Pie”; Lauren Spencer-Smith, “Fingers Crossed”; SZA, “I Hate U”; Carolina Gaitán, Mauro Castillo, Adassa, Rhenzy Feliz, Diane Guerrero, Stephanie Beatriz and cast of Encanto, “We Don’t Talk About Bruno” Best New ArtistEm Beihold Zach Bryan Dove Cameron GAYLE Latto The Linda Lindas Muni Long Lauren Spencer-Smith Wet Leg Lainey Wilson Within Reach: Omar Apollo, Eslabon Armado, Blxst, CKay, Jnr Choi, Mitski, PinkPantheress, Morgan Wade, Mimi Webb, Bailey Zimmerman
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Aug 1, 2022 23:06:58 GMT -5
I’d be okay if Adele didn’t get the autonoms this time around.
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Post by magik on Aug 2, 2022 0:27:03 GMT -5
I’d be okay if Adele didn’t get the autonoms this time around. She deserves to be at least nominated, though. At least, to me. It shouldn't matter how many times she's been nominated or has won. "Easy on Me" is one of the biggest eligible songs and 30 is one of the most acclaimed commercial albums of the period.
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Post by kimberly on Aug 2, 2022 0:56:52 GMT -5
I’d be okay if Adele didn’t get the autonoms this time around. well more like autowins. she has not lost a Grammy since 2010 💀 and it's always Beyoncé who's buying Grammys somehow (not that I think Adele buys hers, to be clear)
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Aug 2, 2022 10:39:59 GMT -5
I’d be okay if Adele didn’t get the autonoms this time around. She deserves to be at least nominated, though. At least, to me. It shouldn't matter how many times she's been nominated or has won. "Easy on Me" is one of the biggest eligible songs and 30 is one of the most acclaimed commercial albums of the period. Yeah and there are already awards and honours that recognize commercial success. I enjoy the song for what it is but compared to others that came out this year, and even compared to her past (already awarded) songs, it’s not new. The Grammys do have a bit of a habit for awarding the same stuff multiple times. There are songs on 30 I’d say should be recognized. “Easy On Me” isn’t one of those.
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