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Post by Angel on May 30, 2022 15:30:49 GMT -5
US Spotify - 05/29/22 18(+100) Kate Bush - Running Up That Hill (A Deal With God) 721,939 (+431,304)
It's what she deserves!!!!!!! Doesn't matter why. She deserves all the love in the world.
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Post by 85la on May 30, 2022 16:18:27 GMT -5
I can't help but thinking it is a little sad and ironic that Hold My Hand still has not broken the top 200 of either Spotify or Apple Music, despite being out and promoted for weeks already and the movie opening to record-breaking numbers this weekend. I'm not a huge fan of either song though, and it does seem a little random and surprising that Kate's song is the one to blow up immediately, but it will be interesting to watch what it does.
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Post by Fears in the Fire on May 30, 2022 17:40:16 GMT -5
I can't help but thinking it is a little sad and ironic that Hold My Hand still has not broken the top 200 of either Spotify or Apple Music, despite being out and promoted for weeks already and the movie opening to record-breaking numbers this weekend. I'm not a huge fan of either song though, and it does seem a little random and surprising that Kate's song is the one to blow up immediately, but it will be interesting to watch what it does. Kate Bushβs song was featured in Stranger Things not Top Gun
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Post by fridayteenage on May 30, 2022 18:07:35 GMT -5
they're talking about how promo from one big entertainment event did tons for a song, but promo from another big entertainment event did almost nothing. That's the diference between quality like kate's song and forgettable generic stuff like hand.
Speaking of, Kate now #26 on apple; might pass time as the top female song.
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Post by 85la on May 30, 2022 18:44:43 GMT -5
^ Correct, yes I am aware that Kate's song is from Stranger Things, and Gaga's from Top Gun.
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Post by Envoirment on May 30, 2022 19:13:17 GMT -5
It's quite amazing how big of a boost "Running Up That Hill" is getting, not just in the US but globally. It's rising strongly on all digital platforms (iTunes/Apple Music/Spotify/Deezer/Shazam/Youtube/Amazon Music etc).
In the US it's #1 iTunes (with a big lead and it continues to grow), #18 Spotify, #26 Apple Music.
I'm really surprised at how well it's doing on Apple Music. Even with sales so low, I hope they can be enough for the song to manage to re-enter the top 50 on the Hot 100. The youtube views are shooting up as well and it'll likely start appearing on the daily US chart on kworb tomorrow. Of course it could continue its momentum and do massive numbers on spotify in the coming days (or so I hope!).
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Post by HolidayGuy on May 30, 2022 19:40:45 GMT -5
I think "Hold My Hand" did crack the Spotify top 200 once- maybe the Friday of the week it was released? In any event, the track isn't connecting with the general streaming audience, that is true.
Would be lovely to see Kate Bush's track appear on the chart again, though- stranger things have happened. Yes, I did that.
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Post by Gary on May 30, 2022 19:45:48 GMT -5
I think "Hold My Hand" did crack the Spotify top 200 once- maybe the Friday of the week it was released? In any event, the track isn't connecting with the general streaming audience, that is true. Would be lovely to see Kate Bush's track appear on the chart again, though- stranger things have happened. Yes, I did that. βStranger Thingsβ did happen lol That is why the song is back in the first place
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Post by HolidayGuy on May 30, 2022 19:48:08 GMT -5
^Indeed. :)
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Post by Darkest Hour on May 30, 2022 19:57:38 GMT -5
Inside (Deluxe) will be released this Friday. The outtake is already out on Youtube.
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Post by fridayteenage on May 30, 2022 20:06:04 GMT -5
something in the way was #46.
a more hold my hand situation, as in a new song used in media, was zendaya's i'm tired at #53.
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Post by magik on May 30, 2022 20:34:56 GMT -5
"Running Up That Hill" becoming a viral hit thanks to "Stranger Things" is great, especially since it fits with several smashes released in the past few years. It doesn't feel out of place.
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Post by renfield75 on May 30, 2022 20:52:04 GMT -5
"Running Up That Hill" is timeless. Love that it's connecting with younger audiences and hope it will re-enter the Hot 100.
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Post by hughster1 on May 30, 2022 21:20:46 GMT -5
Smart radio programmers should add "Running Up That Hill" to their Top 40, Adult Top 40, Adult Contemporary, Alternative, and Adult Alternative station playlists right away. And if they do, that might just result in enough points for it to be a hit.
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Post by radio2009 on May 30, 2022 22:05:26 GMT -5
Smart radio programmers should add "Running Up That Hill" to their Top 40, Adult Top 40, Adult Contemporary, Alternative, and Adult Alternative station playlists right away. And if they do, that might just result in enough points for it to be a hit. I actually Tweeted this exact same thing. They missed a huge opportunity during the lockdown with "Dreams"(though it's much more well known song), but they could play this. The 80s sound never left CHR since the 80s revival started in the mid 2000s, so unlike "Something In The Way" this fits better. And unlike "The Batman" people have instant access to Stranger Things 4 and will be binging it for months to come. That will keep the song in the air. I guess it's up to EMI if they want to actively push it.
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Post by 85la on May 30, 2022 23:04:21 GMT -5
Smart radio programmers should add "Running Up That Hill" to their Top 40, Adult Top 40, Adult Contemporary, Alternative, and Adult Alternative station playlists right away. And if they do, that might just result in enough points for it to be a hit. I would not bet on this, definitely not right away. Radio is extremely rigid. I could see it maybe getting a little increased AC play, but CHR will not touch a 36 year-old deep catalog song, especially if it isn't pushed by the label (which I wouldn't even expect them to do because labels can be very rigid as well). In doing a little research, the only precedent I can see for this is Bohemian Rhapsody, which re-peaked on the airplay chart at #9 (of an overall #2 re-peak) when it was re-released in 1992, but I'd imagine that was heavily pushed by the label.
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Post by renfield75 on May 30, 2022 23:44:42 GMT -5
Smart radio programmers should add "Running Up That Hill" to their Top 40, Adult Top 40, Adult Contemporary, Alternative, and Adult Alternative station playlists right away. And if they do, that might just result in enough points for it to be a hit. I would not bet on this, definitely not right away. Radio is extremely rigid. I could see it maybe getting a little increased AC play, but CHR will not touch a 36 year-old deep catalog song, especially if it isn't pushed by the label (which I wouldn't even expect them to do because labels can be very rigid as well). In doing a little research, the only precedent I can see for this is Bohemian Rhapsody, which re-peaked on the airplay chart at #9 (of an overall #2 re-peak) when it was re-released in 1992, but I'd imagine that was heavily pushed by the label. There was an odd phenomenon of this happening in 1989. During that year Real Life's #29 1984 hit "Send Me An Angel" was re-released and reached a new peak of #26, Benny Mardones' #11 1980 hit "Into The Night" re-charted at number 20, Q-Feel's 1983 Bubbling Under hit "Dancing In Heaven (Orbital Be-Bop)" cracked the Hot 100 for the first time, Peter Gabriel's 1986 hit "In Your Eyes" re-charted at number 41, Synch's "Where Are You Now" peaked at #10 after originally stalling at #77 in 1986, and in the most extreme case Sheriff's #61 hit from 1983, "When I'm With You", went all the way to number one after a station started playing it regularly. Not sure what was in the water that year but labels were giving big pushes to forgotten minor hits from previous years and radio was very into it.
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Post by jamatthews83 on May 31, 2022 0:12:39 GMT -5
Still climbing, #14 on Apple Music is insane.
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on May 31, 2022 1:12:16 GMT -5
For the most part, art pop stays critically acclaimed but rarely penetrates the mainstream (and this was true even when Kate Bush was at her peak commercially; Hounds of Love only peaked at #30 on the Billboard 200). While I don't expect acts like SPELLLING, FKA twigs, Weyes Blood, Julia Holter, Perfume Genius or Angel Olsen to suddenly get Top 40 hits (although, that would be AMAZING) but with a lot of big name pop acts trying to be retro for the 70s and 80s, I hope that with Kate Bush's resurgence we get more songs more start taking from her style and influence or from Peter Gabriel since he was also a big influence on Kate; be more experimental than the synthpop that's starting to get overplayed and overexposed.
I could see acts like Harry Styles, Jack Antonoff or Taylor Swift pursuing more art pop, especially since they've all touched on it before.
Anyway, now that Kate's getting her time to shine, let's work to give Bjork a viral hit on TikTok and introduce Joga to zoomers
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Post by fridayteenage on May 31, 2022 1:40:31 GMT -5
#11 on apple; top 5 or top 3 on spotify tomorrow?
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Post by π‘πππππ€ on May 31, 2022 1:42:18 GMT -5
This is literally a dream come true. I canβt believe it. Oldies have experienced resurgences before, sure, but Kate Bush has never been very famous in the US, and βRunning Up That Hillβ only hit #30 here and peaked at ~33 at pop radio in '85.. It blows my mind. It is quite literally a dream come true. Iβm ecstatic to see the Spotify numbers tomorrow.
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Post by fridayteenage on May 31, 2022 1:46:04 GMT -5
does anyone know where fleetwood mac's dreams and nirvana's something in the way peaked on apple music? they don't like keeping records of their data so.
(spotify: #6 1,032,229 & #2 858,684)
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Post by Enigma. on May 31, 2022 2:47:05 GMT -5
something in the way was #46. a more hold my hand situation, as in a new song used in media, was zendaya's i'm tired at #53. Yeah and Top Gun's audience skews way older than Euphoria.
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Post by thegreatdivine on May 31, 2022 6:00:42 GMT -5
Running Up That Hill is up to #47 on US Apple Music. Now #10. This is really incredible. This could get as high as #2 imo. Maybe even #1.
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Post by iHype. on May 31, 2022 6:19:22 GMT -5
Say thank you streaming era for instances like this lol.
I do wonder why in the digital sales era there was never really these type of instances where old songs could chart *this* high after going viral or being used in media. Especially when sales was an older demographic than streaming overall.
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on May 31, 2022 6:31:23 GMT -5
Say thank you streaming era for instances like this lol. I do wonder why in the digital sales era there was never really these type of instances where old songs could chart *this* high after going viral or being used in media. Especially when sales was an older demographic than streaming overall. Most of the time, you need big streaming to go along with sales if you want old songs to chart, especially old hits that already charted for 20 weeks and especially for songs more than 40 years old. If you take a look at the digital sales chart, more often than not, they're filled with old songs charting due to being discounted, sometimes mid-week as remember, it doesn't take a lot of sales to chart. What is more special is if it resonates for a younger audience for a streaming presence. For example: Sweet Child O' Mine was used in the trailer for Thor: Love & Thunder and that got it a big sales week, even debuting #1 on the Hot Rock Songs chart but it never got streaming to go along with the sales. But with Dreams and now Running Up That Hill have big streaming to go along with it (and you can chart without great sales), and you have these types of re-discovering. Well that, and the fact both Dreams and Running Up That Hill are amongst the greatest songs of all time. (Fingers crossed Joy Division or Sonic Youth gets re-discovered next. OOH, OR PORTISHEAD; ZOOMERS PLEASE LISTEN TO GLORY BOX, YOU WILL THANK ME LATER)
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Post by iHype. on May 31, 2022 6:36:13 GMT -5
Say thank you streaming era for instances like this lol. I do wonder why in the digital sales era there was never really these type of instances where old songs could chart *this* high after going viral or being used in media. Especially when sales was an older demographic than streaming overall. Most of the time, you need big streaming to go along with sales if you want old songs to chart, especially old hits that already charted for 20 weeks and especially for songs more than 40 years old. If you take a look at the digital sales chart, more often than not, they're filled with old songs charting due to being discounted, sometimes mid-week as remember, it doesn't take a lot of sales to chart. What is more special is if it resonates for a younger audience for a streaming presence. For example: Sweet Child O' Mine was used in the trailer for Thor: Love & Thunder and that got it a big sales week, even debuting #1 on the Hot Rock Songs chart but it never got streaming to go along with the sales. But with Dreams and now Running Up That Hill have big streaming to go along with it (and you can chart without great sales), and you have these types of re-discovering. Well that, and the fact both Dreams and Running Up That Hill are amongst the greatest songs of all time. (Fingers crossed Joy Division or Sonic Youth gets re-discovered next) I meant that in the digital era when sales were thriving... 2010-2015, old songs never charted high on iTunes/Sales the way they do on streaming. All these songs like Dreams, Lost, Something In The Way, Running, etc going top 10 or near #1 in consumption would've never happened 10 years ago. The only times that ever happened really was death (MJ, Whitney).
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Post by joshtheking on May 31, 2022 6:43:08 GMT -5
I have to say I wasn't too big on Potion upon first listen but it's really a grower!! Hope it sticks around
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on May 31, 2022 6:43:24 GMT -5
Most of the time, you need big streaming to go along with sales if you want old songs to chart, especially old hits that already charted for 20 weeks and especially for songs more than 40 years old. If you take a look at the digital sales chart, more often than not, they're filled with old songs charting due to being discounted, sometimes mid-week as remember, it doesn't take a lot of sales to chart. What is more special is if it resonates for a younger audience for a streaming presence. For example: Sweet Child O' Mine was used in the trailer for Thor: Love & Thunder and that got it a big sales week, even debuting #1 on the Hot Rock Songs chart but it never got streaming to go along with the sales. But with Dreams and now Running Up That Hill have big streaming to go along with it (and you can chart without great sales), and you have these types of re-discovering. Well that, and the fact both Dreams and Running Up That Hill are amongst the greatest songs of all time. (Fingers crossed Joy Division or Sonic Youth gets re-discovered next) I meant that in the digital era when sales were thriving... 2010-2015, old songs never charted high on iTunes/Sales the way they do on streaming. All these songs like Dreams, Lost, Something In The Way, Running, etc going top 10 or near #1 in consumption would've never happened 10 years ago. The only times that ever happened really was death (MJ, Whitney). Well again, sales is consumption is VASTLY different than it was 7-12 years ago. It's easier to get a #1 these days because not as many people are buying songs. We didn't have the alternative to just streaming a song but back then, it was either buying the song, listening to radio, or YouTube and YouTube only started being part of the formula in 2013. Nowadays the Top 10 songs on the charts are probably not even the Top 20 on Digital Sales, so there's not much competition for older songs.
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Post by iHype. on May 31, 2022 6:48:17 GMT -5
I meant that in the digital era when sales were thriving... 2010-2015, old songs never charted high on iTunes/Sales the way they do on streaming. All these songs like Dreams, Lost, Something In The Way, Running, etc going top 10 or near #1 in consumption would've never happened 10 years ago. The only times that ever happened really was death (MJ, Whitney). Well again, sales is consumption is VASTLY different than it was 7-12 years ago. It's easier to get a #1 these days because not as many people are buying songs. We didn't have the alternative to just streaming a song but back then, it was either buying the song, listening to radio, or YouTube and YouTube only started being part of the formula in 2013. Nowadays the Top 10 songs on the charts are probably not even the Top 20 on Digital Sales. You're not understanding what I'm saying at all.... Catalog music in general can take off much heavier in the streaming world than it ever did on iTunes at its peak days in 2010-2015. Old music would go viral, be used in media, get covered on Glee/American Idol/etc, and it would never just take off to top 10 on iTunes. Then in the streaming era old songs can now go top 10 on streaming platforms after having a viral/media usage moment. 10 years ago you would see a song get used in a huge TV show like this, then go to like #80 on iTunes and that was a big deal. Never something like #3 or #5 simply off usage in a single TV show or movie. Those songs were available on iTunes and the demographic consuming music was older then so you'd think old/classics songs would've been able to chart just as high on consumption back then.
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