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Post by samo🦕 on Sept 17, 2022 18:01:03 GMT -5
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Post by zippy on Sept 17, 2022 18:03:44 GMT -5
Aw, so close with your predictions wrip.
Also Hatchie’s song sounds too similar to her other song that already won seed #2.
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Post by samo🦕 on Sept 17, 2022 18:05:23 GMT -5
It's down to a basic final 2 [4]...Free vs. The Rhythm. Will Hatchie be able to pull out another win? Or will Florence take the crown? Both have at least one #1, but one has several more top 10s than the other. They've both got a single rank below 30, and less than ten ranks outside the top 20. But which will win? Find out in 10 minutes.
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Post by samo🦕 on Sept 17, 2022 18:16:04 GMT -5
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Post by samo🦕 on Sept 17, 2022 18:21:35 GMT -5
A massive thanks to everyone who's stuck with me through all four seeds; it's now time to celebrate the best parts of each list with the finals; we'll be ranking the top 15 from each seed together to find our favourite song of the whole tournament! (and remember, rank "The Lightning I, II" as a single song)
I'll have a reminder for the finals + some extra stats up tomorrow.
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Post by wrip on Sept 17, 2022 18:23:20 GMT -5
yesss thank god!
I've been really loving Free lately, it's genuinely such a pretty song to me. The lyrics really just hit hard, and the way the song is constructed is just really beautiful.
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Post by zippy on Sept 17, 2022 18:23:48 GMT -5
Well congratulations samo, even though your song submission didn’t particularly stand out to me. But at least every seed has had a different winning artist.
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Post by filthy on Sept 17, 2022 18:29:01 GMT -5
Madnesses are always so unpredictable!
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Post by Gonza'90 on Sept 17, 2022 18:45:47 GMT -5
Free is one of my favorite songs of the year. I'm glad it won.
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Post by nathanalbright on Sept 17, 2022 19:20:44 GMT -5
This finals is going to be pretty interesting, I wonder if I'm going to feel any differently about the songs my second listen.
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Post by zippy on Sept 17, 2022 19:55:34 GMT -5
I’m not very interested in the finals as I feel that the lineup could have been much more interesting if we had more variety of genres and less of the same predictable artists making it multiple times (although I did enjoy listening to songs from Cannons, Hatchie, Kendrick Lamar and others for the first time). I’ve been thinking perhaps set a limit to how many songs can be submitted by an artist or from the same album next time?
At least I feel satisfied with contributing a song from an artist that I care about: Röyksopp
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Post by recordyear on Sept 17, 2022 20:48:32 GMT -5
Florence Welch remembered the successful formula of Dog Days Are Over and used it again in Free...and the crowd rejoiced. Don't really care about the drums in Free though. I blame Jack Antonoff's production.
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Post by recordyear on Sept 17, 2022 20:50:34 GMT -5
this band needs to be abolished. I swear they can release some of the most mid songs ever and somehow they always coast into the finals Isn't Purple Disco Machine a DJ?
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Post by Mayman on Sept 17, 2022 20:57:14 GMT -5
The Rhythm is definitely my favorite of the new tracks from her album. Definitely happy with a top 2 placement.
I really enjoyed Florence's album so nice to see Free win.
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Post by recordyear on Sept 17, 2022 21:11:19 GMT -5
I’ve been thinking perhaps set a limit to how many songs can be submitted by an artist or from the same album next time? How do you even know which songs will perform in the seed and finals beforehand? They sometimes flip (the song performed better in the seed may perform worse in finals, see Kelly Lee Owens for example).
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Post by Az Paynter on Sept 17, 2022 21:39:47 GMT -5
Limiting songs per artist/album is impossible. Since nobody can discuss their submissions (or at least are not supposed to) nobody's gonna know until we get there who sent what so there's no way to manage this without the host arbitrarily tossing songs out, which I think would just create more problems than it fixes (and I don't even see this as a problem to be fixed necessarily).
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Post by zippy on Sept 17, 2022 22:30:16 GMT -5
I was thinking what if we allowed only one song submission per artist per seed or a maximum of 3 songs per artist for all 4 seeds. The host's random order of choosing song submissions would address this. Yet, I can see how this still sounds infeasible so I shouldn't expect the rules to change.
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Post by Mayman on Sept 18, 2022 0:37:18 GMT -5
Idk, obviously it's your opinion, but I come here to discover new music. If enough people send multiple songs from an artist, and I like them, I usually will go check out the album or other songs from their discography. For example, in March Madness there were quite a few Turnstille songs from their latest album sent for March Madness and I ended up liking most of them and checking out their other work.
If the songs do well, who cares whether or not multiple songs from one artist do well. Sure, certain artists usually do better, but I think the people who participate in the madness tournaments/rankdowns are usually pretty good at not boosting or tanking something because of an artist, unlike maybe some of the chart rankdowns. I feel like this is such a non-problem that it really doesn't matter much, but that's just my opinion of course.
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Post by GP on Sept 18, 2022 9:14:03 GMT -5
FLORENCE FOR THE WIN
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Post by GP on Sept 18, 2022 9:21:37 GMT -5
this band needs to be abolished. I swear they can release some of the most mid songs ever and somehow they always coast into the finals me talking about anything from Beach House that's not Superstar oh they are pressed!
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Post by samo🦕 on Sept 18, 2022 12:08:08 GMT -5
Member closenessClosest: 1. filthy & willapted33 (4.57) 2. Mayman & BlurryKyle (5.17) 3. willapted33 & BB🌕 (5.43) 4. BlurryKyle & willapted33 (5.70) 5. wrip & BB🌕 (5.78) Furthest: 1. fireflies & zippy (21.17) 2. fireflies & willapted33 (20.48) 3. Trilogy & .indulgecountry (20.30) 4. filthy & fireflies (20.26) 5. wrip & fireflies (20) Also, here's the number of seeds each of you have sent for so far; I'd hate for some of you who've missed all four to not be present for the finals either 👀 (and a huge thank you to nathanalbright, Nick P, Ky and Adrian C. 🍓 for sending for some of these despite not submitting songs in the first place) {Average seed ranks (ordered by seed)}1. walt91 5 (5, 3, 4, 8) 2. BB🌕 5.5 (3, 1, 9, 9) 3. Gonza'90 8 (1, 17, 11, 3) 4. American Idiot 8.5 (15, 6, 1, 12) 5. fearlessarrow 8.5 (2, 5, 21, 6) 6. Fire 9 (4, 4, 6, 22) 7. samo🦕 10.25 (27, 8, 5, 1) 8. Zach 11 (19, 13, 8, 4) 9. maine 14.25 (16, 12, 10, 19) 10. BlurryKyle 14.5 (22, 15, 3, 18) 11. DadJokes 15 (20, 7, 23, 10) 12. filthy 15.25 (12, 28, 16, 5) 13. lyhom 16.5 (8, 11, 33, 14) 14. Mayman 16.75 (21, 37, 7, 2) 15. aerodynamite 16.75 (18, 20, 12, 17) 16. HamedM1 💔 18.75 (6, 30, 18, 21) 17. reputainbow 20.25 (7, 18, 40, 16) 18. Trilogy 20.5 (33, 9, 15, 25) 19. recordyear 22 (32, 25, 2, 29) 20. wheatsquares33 22.5 (14, 35, 17, 24) 21. Az Paynter 22.75 (25, 10, 41, 15) 22. wrip 22.75 (24, 36, 20, 11) 23. willapted33 23.75 (26, 33, 13, 23) 24. zippy 24.5 (10, 27, 35, 26) 25. Leo ✔ 24.5 (11, 16, 43, 28) 26. GP 24.75 (35, 26, 25, 13) 27. Lordef†ones 25.25 (17, 14, 38, 32) 28. Normi 26 (45, 21, 31, 7) 29. Troy 26.75 (36, 2, 32, 37) 30. @imhappy259 26.75 (29, 22, 14, 42) 31. dremolus - solarpunk 28 (30, 43, 19, 20) 32. 𝕡𝕙𝕖𝕖𝕓𝕤 31 (9, 46, 39, 30) 33. macattack 31.25 (28, 19, 45, 33) 34. khan 31.25 (38, 24, 27, 36) 35. jtd Thee Stallion 32 (43, 29, 22, 34) 36. 𝓲𝓽'𝓼.𝓰𝓿 32 (23, 32, 46, 27) 37. tim 32.5 (31, 34, 24, 41) 38. fireflies 33 (13, 44, 30, 45) 39. .indulgecountry 33 (34, 38, 29, 31) 40. SabrinaFan 35 (42, 23, 37, 38) 41. razorshark 38 (46, 41, 26, 39) 42. SuperLaLaLa~ 38.5 (41, 31, 42, 40) 43. JOJO SIWA DERANGEMENT SYNDROME 38.5 (40, 45, 34, 35) 44. stallie 39 (37, 39, 36, 44) 45. keatonzab 39.25 (44, 42, 28, 43) 46. 🌺CountryLineDancer 42.25 (39, 40, 44, 46) {Average seed ranks (ordered by position)}1. walt91 5 (3, 4, 5, 8) 2. BB🌕 5.5 (1, 3, 9, 9) 3. Gonza'90 8 (1, 3, 11, 17) 4. American Idiot 8.5 (1, 6, 12, 15) 5. fearlessarrow 8.5 (2, 5, 6, 21) 6. Fire 9 (4, 4, 6, 22) 7. samo🦕 10.25 (1, 5, 8, 27) 8. Zach 11 (4, 8, 13, 19) 9. maine 14.25 (10, 12, 16, 19) 10. BlurryKyle 14.5 (3, 15, 18, 22) 11. DadJokes 15 (7, 10, 20, 23) 12. filthy 15.25 (5, 12, 16, 28) 13. lyhom 16.5 (8, 11, 14, 33) 14. Mayman 16.75 (2, 7, 21, 37) 15. aerodynamite 16.75 (12, 17, 18, 20) 16. HamedM1 💔 18.75 (6, 18, 21, 30) 17. reputainbow 20.25 (7, 16, 18, 40) 18. Trilogy 20.5 (9, 15, 25, 33) 19. recordyear 22 (2, 25, 29, 32) 20. wheatsquares33 22.5 (14, 17, 24, 35) 21. Az Paynter 22.75 (10, 15, 25, 41) 22. wrip 22.75 (11, 20, 24, 36) 23. willapted33 23.75 (13, 23, 26, 33) 24. zippy 24.5 (10, 26, 27, 35) 25. Leo ✔ 24.5 (11, 16, 28, 43) 26. GP 24.75 (13, 25, 26, 35) 27. Lordef†ones 25.25 (14, 17, 32, 38) 28. Normi 26 (7, 21, 31, 45) 29. Troy 26.75 (2, 32, 36, 37) 30. @imhappy259 26.75 (14, 22, 29, 42) 31. dremolus - solarpunk 28 (19, 20, 30, 43) 32. 𝕡𝕙𝕖𝕖𝕓𝕤 31 (9, 30, 39, 46) 33. macattack 31.25 (19, 28, 33, 45) 34. khan 31.25 (24, 27, 36, 38) 35. jtd Thee Stallion 32 (22, 29, 34, 43) 36. 𝓲𝓽'𝓼.𝓰𝓿 32 (23, 27, 32, 46) 37. tim 32.5 (24, 31, 34, 41) 38. fireflies 33 (13, 30, 44, 45) 39. .indulgecountry 33 (29, 31, 34, 38) 40. SabrinaFan 35 (23, 37, 38, 42) 41. razorshark 38 (26, 39, 41, 46) 42. SuperLaLaLa~ 38.5 (31, 40, 41, 42) 43. JOJO SIWA DERANGEMENT SYNDROME 38.5 (34, 35, 40, 45) 44. stallie 39 (36, 37, 39, 44) 45. keatonzab 39.25 (28, 42, 43, 44) 46. 🌺CountryLineDancer 42.25 (39, 40, 44, 46) (slightly less than) 3 weeks remaining (for the finals)I know a lot of you have heard all of these already, but since it's a longer list and I'd love for some of those who missed the previous ones to send, I'm giving a later deadline than usual for this.
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Post by zippy on Sept 18, 2022 19:33:25 GMT -5
I don’t disagree with most of what you said Mayman. I have come here to discover new music and artists too. Except for Harry Styles , I haven’t been intentionally underranking artists for having multiple songs in the seeds, although I would be ranking them differently if I specifically thought about the finals round. For many artists it only takes 1 song for me to become interested in them. Because of how I make my own playlists on Spotify, I have a mentality of wanting to include one or two songs per artists and not including several more songs from particular artists over others. Now that we have seen all the results from every seed, it feels like the most interesting part of Summertime Madness is already over. It would be interesting if the results in the finals differ from the what the top 15 of every seed has shown us, but I don’t expect many change ups.
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Post by wrip on Sept 18, 2022 20:42:29 GMT -5
Now that we have seen all the results from every seed, it feels like the most interesting part of Summertime Madness is already over. It would be interesting if the results in the finals differ from the what the top 15 of every seed has shown us, but I don’t expect many change ups. I will say, there definitely have been some crazy changes in the finals lists from what I've seen! Like for example, in the last rankdown madness "Porcelain Slightly" by Lil Ugly Mane placed at #13 in its seed (which means *technically* it should've placed in the 49-52 range), but it ended up at #18 in the finals. There have been times where songs that were top 3 in their seeds went out in like the 30s too. Also for last year's STM, "Introvert" by Little Simz was only #4 in its seed but ended up winning the finals! There definitely are some predictable results but also there have been some pretty interesting change ups.
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Post by samo🦕 on Sept 19, 2022 4:20:11 GMT -5
my favourite one of those is “Circles” winning its seed originally and being #52 in the finals
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Post by macattack on Sept 19, 2022 13:30:18 GMT -5
my favourite one of those is “Circles” winning its seed originally and being #52 in the finals I wonder if that is backlash kicking in or because the submitter has been revealed and people don’t like them very much so they tank their song(s) in the finals.
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Post by Mayman on Sept 19, 2022 13:44:56 GMT -5
my favourite one of those is “Circles” winning its seed originally and being #52 in the finals I wonder if that is backlash kicking in or because the submitter has been revealed and people don’t like them very much so they tank their song(s) in the finals. the submitter was me 😭😭. idk why i sent circles, i guess i really wanted everyone to listen to mediocrity. i'm sure walt91 tanked it, he hates me!
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Post by Leo ✔ on Sept 19, 2022 15:58:41 GMT -5
Sometimes I tank songs from people who made it to the final and didn't bother to send a list. So watch out y'all
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Post by maine on Sept 19, 2022 18:11:03 GMT -5
my favourite one of those is “Circles” winning its seed originally and being #52 in the finals I wonder if that is backlash kicking in or because the submitter has been revealed and people don’t like them very much so they tank their song(s) in the finals. I remember everyone during that reveal set was wondering where "Circles" was the entire time in the top 15 then it won lmao.
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Post by zippy on Sept 19, 2022 23:59:11 GMT -5
I like how the thread title says “seed #1 due 7th October” even though we just finished the results for seed #1.
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Post by JOJO SIWA DERANGEMENT SYNDROME on Sept 20, 2022 0:06:44 GMT -5
Thanks for hosting.
Sadly I won't be sending for the finals.
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