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Post by ethansdelicate on Feb 4, 2023 0:06:40 GMT -5
Again, you all can choose not to believe Nathan Hubbard, but Taylor putting out so much content during that period was deemed a mistake by her team and they put the kibosh on that. people really underestimate the effect these releases have had on her catalog strength
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Post by theflying on Feb 4, 2023 0:54:39 GMT -5
Again, you all can choose not to believe Nathan Hubbard, but Taylor putting out so much content during that period was deemed a mistake by her team and they put the kibosh on that. people really underestimate the effect these releases have had on her catalog strength So the second most streamed artist on Spotify needs some extra back catalogue streams a few months early??
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Post by theflying on Feb 4, 2023 0:57:14 GMT -5
The thing is, Taylor has consistently released a new album every 2 years for nearly her entire career. Despite having the TVs start in 2021, that once again became true last year. And she seems to avoid any other releases on those years to build up some hype before dropping in the fall. As such, if she keeps that pace (she's shown no signs of slowing down) and really waits until Q4 to drop the next TV, that means the timeline would look like this for the remaining four TVs: 2023: TV 1 2024: New album 2025: TV 2 2026: New album 2027: TV 3 2028: New album 2029: TV 4 There's no way on earth she's dragging this out that long. I think at the very least we're getting two this year. I understand letting Midnights shine a bit longer, but I expect the next TV will come in late spring/early summer and a second will follow before the end of the year. And who knows, maybe she'll wait an extra year on the next new album and just drop two TVs this year and two next year before returning in 2025, but I don't see much weight in the idea that she's going to wait all the way until the end of this year to drop the next one. Why wouldn’t she drag it out that long? The timeline you listed is what literally makes the most sense lol. Why would you rush release a rerelease when you can use it to maintain your relevancy in an off year? I have literally listed, not even kidding, like ten to twelve different reasons it doesn’t make sense that she would cram in two TVs this year and you all are literally just like ~*~vibez*~*. Guys. TAYLOR SWIFT LIKES GIVING HER ALBUMS A MOMENT. She likes indulging. She likes the FANS indulging. This is what she talked about ALL during the Red TV release. She literally talked about how she enjoys this moment they all celebrate from her past. Why do you all keep providing super flimsy non-answers, like she wants some more Spotify streams!!11, or she would LOVE to have fans obsessing over two bodies of work at the same time!!11, that fly in the face of all logic and what she said she wants to do? At least provide some better reasons lol. Speak Now TV stickers being on Instagram is far more convincing as evidence than anything in this thread that it might be coming soon.
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Post by Forever Winter on Feb 4, 2023 12:20:01 GMT -5
Again, you all can choose not to believe Nathan Hubbard, but Taylor putting out so much content during that period was deemed a mistake by her team and they put the kibosh on that. Could you post the podcast where he said this? I'd like to listen. Thanks
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Feb 4, 2023 13:06:15 GMT -5
idk, I mean in the end all we can do is make our own predictions and give thoughts. None of us really know other than what we think makes sense or doesn't make sense so I'm not sure why there's so much "you're wrong" going on when nobody is actually right because nobody can actually predict the future.
On that note, I agree it doesn't make sense to cram too many released into too short a time, except Taylor has already done that and it didn't work against her. I also agree it wouldn't be the best move to drag the TVs until 2029. But how can both those points be true? Maybe I'm the only one in the wrong here.
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Post by theflying on Feb 4, 2023 16:58:19 GMT -5
Again, you all can choose not to believe Nathan Hubbard, but Taylor putting out so much content during that period was deemed a mistake by her team and they put the kibosh on that. Could you post the podcast where he said this? I'd like to listen. Thanks Every Single Album, Midnights Follow Up Mailbag. Great stuff.
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Post by rnb on Feb 4, 2023 17:12:12 GMT -5
yeah she needs to release hits different to streaming already (maybe with a video to give it an extra push?)
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Post by ificanthaveyou on Feb 5, 2023 0:18:21 GMT -5
Here’s hoping she can nab SOTY tomorrow. This is surely her best chance yet.
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Post by Marooned@Midnight on Feb 5, 2023 7:57:49 GMT -5
Here’s hoping she can nab SOTY tomorrow. This is surely her best chance yet. Agree. Would also love a surprise Midnights performance. A medley of Anti-Hero / Lavender Haze / Midnight Rain would be epic. Or just go left field and do Maroon.
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Post by Forever Winter on Feb 5, 2023 8:28:33 GMT -5
Could you post the podcast where he said this? I'd like to listen. Thanks Every Single Album, Midnights Follow Up Mailbag. Great stuff. Any idea the time mark? I kinda don't want to spend 90 minutes digging just for that. Thanks anyways!
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Post by Forever Winter on Feb 5, 2023 8:29:14 GMT -5
The promo campaign is in full force lmao
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Post by theflying on Feb 5, 2023 10:26:39 GMT -5
Every Single Album, Midnights Follow Up Mailbag. Great stuff. Any idea the time mark? I kinda don't want to spend 90 minutes digging just for that. Thanks anyways! Girl, it’s a fantastic podcast, just listen to it. Especially if you’re a huge Taylor Swift fan.
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Post by Forever Winter on Feb 5, 2023 13:13:58 GMT -5
Any idea the time mark? I kinda don't want to spend 90 minutes digging just for that. Thanks anyways! Girl, it’s a fantastic podcast, just listen to it. Especially if you’re a huge Taylor Swift fan. I listened and nowhere in the podcast do they say her team now wants to space out her releases. The closest thing is that some little birdie told him they wanted to have the biggest sales since Adele or her own reputation with midnights. That’s the only insider knowledge he talks about. There’s nothing about future releases plans other than their takes on what’s next and the idea that the releases were stacked upon each other and got lost in the mist is nothing more than his opinion and how he felt. Nathan is this you? 🤔 Anyways, it’s great stuff. Like reading through a Taylor album thread but with people with industry credentials on Spotify. I’m not really surprised this didn’t make waves among the fanbase. There’s nothing new being revealed. Guess we shall see what happens with the re-recordings of Speak Now and 1989.
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Post by rnb on Feb 5, 2023 13:23:47 GMT -5
she needs to perform at the grammys!
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Post by theflying on Feb 5, 2023 13:58:22 GMT -5
Girl, it’s a fantastic podcast, just listen to it. Especially if you’re a huge Taylor Swift fan. I listened and nowhere in the podcast do they say her team now wants to space out her releases. The closest thing is that some little birdie told him they wanted to have the biggest sales since Adele or her own reputation with midnights. That’s the only insider knowledge he talks about. There’s nothing about future releases plans other than their takes on what’s next and the idea that the releases were stacked upon each other and got lost in the mist is nothing more than his opinion and how he felt. Nathan is this you? 🤔 Anyways, it’s great stuff. Like reading through a Taylor album thread but with people with industry credentials on Spotify. I’m not really surprised this didn’t make waves among the fanbase. There’s nothing new being revealed. Guess we shall see what happens with the re-recordings of Speak Now and 1989. He didn’t go “her team will now be spacing out releases henceforth”. He said they recognized how folklore, folklore LPSS, evermore, and Fearless TV were all stacked on top of each other. It’s not meant to “make waves among the fanbase”; it’s not meant to be taken as insider info. It’s meant to be taken as what it is: her team has recognized that all the content had a detriment, especially to evermore’s sales. I’m really tired of this argument. You want to think she’ll release two TVs this year in spite of all the sense saying the opposite, go for it. Maybe you’re right and she will. I’m just saying to stop acting like a template that she did 2-3 years ago is one she is going to continue with moving forward when there are a lot of indications that some of the strategy wasn’t the best, circumstances are different now, and Taylor’s MO may have evolved a bit.
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Post by Nick on Feb 5, 2023 18:31:37 GMT -5
she needs to perform at the grammys! I haven't seen the list of performers, but will be attempting to watch later. It would be great if she appeared.
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Post by rnb on Feb 5, 2023 18:33:31 GMT -5
she needs to perform at the grammys! I haven't seen the list of performers, but will be attempting to watch later. It would be great if she appeared. there is a surprise performer so maybe it’s her? we shall see
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Post by 14887fan on Feb 5, 2023 19:01:47 GMT -5
Wins Best Music Video for ATW10!
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Post by ificanthaveyou on Feb 5, 2023 20:06:24 GMT -5
Wins Best Music Video for ATW10! This may bode well for SOTY. The voters are aware of the song.
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Post by taylor on Feb 5, 2023 20:34:56 GMT -5
If she wins her first ever SOTY for “All Too Well” tonight, it’ll be her lucky 13th Grammy. The fates are saying some huge things
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Post by theflying on Feb 5, 2023 20:36:13 GMT -5
If she wins her first ever SOTY for “All Too Well” tonight, it’ll be her lucky 13th Grammy. The fates are saying some huge things
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Post by Forever Winter on Feb 5, 2023 20:57:15 GMT -5
So happy she already won something for ATW10 <3
Hopefully i'll wake up to some good news. If not, there's always next year or the year after
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Post by cjay on Feb 6, 2023 1:17:43 GMT -5
Wish ATW had won SOTY. Nevertheless, music video Grammy was nice. And TS looked amazing! Can’t wait for her to win AOTY next year.
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Post by ificanthaveyou on Feb 6, 2023 4:31:23 GMT -5
So happy she already won something for ATW10 <3 Hopefully i'll wake up to some good news. If not, there's always next year or the year after Agreed! While SOTY woulda been perfection, this was literally a TV year and she still came out with a VOTY at the VMAs and the Grammys. Some people spend their entire careers without either of those accolades and Taylor did it with a re-release. Anti-Hero and Midnights have a good awards season ahead of them as long as Taylor continues to promote.
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Post by Dylan :) on Feb 6, 2023 5:10:15 GMT -5
I need these as vault tracks on Reputation!!
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Post by taylor on Feb 6, 2023 8:44:21 GMT -5
^^ I NEED those two songs immediately.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2023 10:32:58 GMT -5
Little trip down memory lane :) And now they have two of the biggest songs of the last 2 years! :)
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